Booting up taking longer than it should - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I noticed recently after my friend got a fascinate that my phone takes an awfully long time to boot up.
He allowed me to tinker with his phone and pretty much copy my rom, kernal, and the settings that go with it onto it just to see if there was a problem with the combination I was using.
This yielded no difference as my phone will still take about 50 seconds while his takes roughly 20.
The majority of the time it's showing the Samsung logo. The animation process itself goes by just as quickly.
I've wiped both phones completely without getting any different results.
I've found my phone will boot up at the same time as his when both have been brought completely back to stock, but c'mon, is that really an option?
My question is if anybody knows anything else that might cause this? If so, is there a way to fix it?
I'm starting to think it might be a hardware issue as his phone is considerably newer than mine, but I still have a small glimmer of hope.
It's not a huge problem, but it would be nice if I could save time when rebooting my phone.

It's obviously not a hardware issue if you don't get this when you are stock. Not sure if there is anything you can do to speed up the boot process though

Just a thought (though I can be entirely wrong) but try swapping the SD cards from yours and your friends phones, then wipe both (both rooted with the same rom)
I could be wrong but it might be the sdcards causing the difference in speed.
Please post results as I am very curious.

Could always delete the boot animation.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

chefthomas99 said:
Could always delete the boot animation.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think that wouldn't really help. The problem with that is the segment with the boot animation actually goes by just as fast on both phones. It's just portion with the Samsung logo that takes forever really... I should probably add that to the OP.
Also, IIRC if I were to delete the boot animation it would just be replaced by either a black screen or the stock animation and it would take just as much time.
*edit* Just for safe measure I deleted the boot animation file and it left me with the scrolling Android logo.

Dalamar1320 said:
Just a thought (though I can be entirely wrong) but try swapping the SD cards from yours and your friends phones, then wipe both (both rooted with the same rom)
I could be wrong but it might be the sdcards causing the difference in speed.
Please post results as I am very curious.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That could be. I feel a little dumb for not thinking of it as I have a 32GB card and he still has the 16GB. I'll let you know the next time I see him.

Related

[q] what is this i don't even

My phone just completely stopped functioning. On restart, it has a completely black screen with all four of the bottom buttons lit up. I have confirmed that I can get to a recovery screen, but before I completely wipe the month of work I've spent getting my phone to exactly how I like it, I'd LOVE to know if there's a way I can fix it, or at least something that I did to make it like this.
Just to let y'all know, I'm running a Samsung Vibrant, rooted/stock (rooted a month ago to remove bloatware, still running vibrant stock 2.1), RyanZA's lagfix, the GPS fix, ADW/Beautiful Widgets and a bunch of other apps. If you have ANY ideas for me, I'd love to hear it. Thanks.
Sounds like your lagfix fixed your phone right up
Flash back to stock first and foremost...sounds like something corrupted integral software.
My unrooted phone did the same. On my fifth phone. So disappointed.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
OK, I wiped the phone, and I'm in the long process of rebuilding it (which is what happens when you have TiBackup on your phone, but you don't actually BACK UP your stuff).
@heygrl: You think it was the lag fix? Despite the fact that I installed it, like, a month ago? I updated a number of apps yesterday, but again, that was all several hours before my phone basically yorked all over itself.
I'm planning on re-rooting, but now that this happened, I'm a little gunshy about it. I mean, hell, I didn't even flash a different rom. I was running the samsung stock ui with ADW on top of it. The boot was stalling after the Galaxy S splash screen. The splash screen would be up for like two minutes, and instead of booting into the phone, the screen would go black, and the four buttons across the bottom would light up.
heygrl said:
Sounds like your lagfix fixed your phone right up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
oh shiznits... you really think so?
the lagfix could've done this?
i had my phone for under a month, the only thing i ever did to it was lagfix basically the day of that i got the phone... and it did the same for me, had to get it replaced (hardware locked), so ya, prob was the lagfix... my new phone isn't hardware locked though, so at least i woldn't have to send it in again if it happened again =)
HG! said:
oh shiznits... you really think so?
the lagfix could've done this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been reading that those "quick fix" lagfixes are prone to data corruption.
I use voodoo because it seems to be safer.
The ryanZA fix uses an ext2 loopback mount on top of the rfs partition. We can't dismount the partitions properly and ext2 is prone to corruption if you don't. That's why many of us recommended ext3 or ext4 based fixes. Voodoo is safer from this sort of thing, but comes with other possible issues. There are workarounds for most of them at this point though.
So yes, your lag fix could well have caused the problem. Time to start from stock. Use your backup app next time. I can go from a fresh wipe to fully usable in about 30 min with titanium.
If you decide to try voodoo, backup your backup to a computer or the external sd card and remove it. It has erased the internal flash for a lot of people.

Filesystem corrupts and then hard resets

So guys I guess I need some opinions here. that's what happened.
it's been a while now that at random times the phone freaks out randomly. Most frequently google reader returns error loading the news, and some games do not load (instant FC after launch). the last two times the "freakout" happened, WiFi wouldn't turn on just returning "error" instead.
the only solution then is rebooting the phone. Upon reboot I get some error message regarding the corrupted filesystem and then the phone hard resets itself.
this whole thing has happened to me at least 10 times lately.
- I am not 100% sure but it shouldn't be ROM-dependant. I am running 407 deodexed since some time but I am pretty confident it happened under stock froyo.
- It seems the freakout happens specially (but not only) if the phone gets bumped or shaken. for example I was lying belly up on my bed one day and I was holding it while it "fell" on my chest... literally a 10-15cm drop.
- I have reflashed deodexed 407 saturday evening and so far so good.
so my guess is that something bad is happening to the innersd. given the mechanical/physical nature of the event that triggers the problem I'm more inclined to think it's a loose contact/bad connector/bad soldering/something detached from PCB=>something physically broken-kind of problem, but I'm open to suggestions. any input is mostly welcome (and I know how to use the thanks button)!
I think the first thing i would do is a full nandroid back up then a dell factory wipe the one in the white screen not streakmode and if that fixes it load your programs one at a time you may have a program it doesn't like Tim
sparky4017 said:
I think the first thing i would do is a full nandroid back up then a dell factory wipe the one in the white screen not streakmode and if that fixes it load your programs one at a time you may have a program it doesn't like Tim
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cheers buddy but I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem. reflashed / wiped many times but that route is a no go
My money is on a faulty sd card. Not that hard to replace.
lordmorphous said:
My money is on a faulty sd card. Not that hard to replace.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do hope so but I wouldn't place any bet. I might consider replacing it with the external sd for starters, just to be sure that's the culprit, and then get a class 10 card somewhere. I can just hope it's not the controller...
The same problem for about 1 month I did var.My screen was broken service. Arrives at the opening of the dell logo discern.Maybe phone line repairs also have a problem or a good card and slot takamadılar
I talked to the service today, said that the phone's internal memory 2gb card problem
quick update: after replacing the inner sd the phone got better. it's stable as ever. I'm lucky I didn't bet against you lordmorphous!
Hi.
I am also running 407 and I have also have a an issue with freezing.If I slide to unlock phone I cannot access my phone and sometimes I am forced to do again to gain access it. It becone very irritating and after reading various forums and this one I also suspect the inner SD card.I have done a factory reset and fault is still present.
I do not get an any messages or system corrupted messages.
Phone is less than a year old
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA
try this
kingpappy said:
hi.
I am also running 407 and i have also have a an issue with freezing.if i slide to unlock phone i cannot access my phone and sometimes i am forced to do again to gain access it. It becone very irritating and after reading various forums and this one i also suspect the inner sd card.i have done a factory reset and fault is still present.
I do not get an any messages or system corrupted messages.
Phone is less than a year old
sent from my dell streak using xda
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just try wipping dalvik chashe and fix permissions...from the recovery mod.....let us kno
Hi.
Thanks but that sounds complicated.I am getting loads of F/C too.Sometomes there is an icon that says manage.
How do I proceed to repair this ?
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA
go to recovery mode
kingpappy said:
hi.
Thanks but that sounds complicated.i am getting loads of f/c too.sometomes there is an icon that says manage.
How do i proceed to repair this ?
Sent from my dell streak using xda
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
go to recovery mode ...the menu b4 you turn on the phone(volum -+ and hold power button)
...it may fix your problem

Touch panel malfunction? Driver related or serious hardware issue?

Okay, guys. I'm new to this forum (I own the ATRIX since yesterday, so...). I had the HTC Desire, Desire HD and EVO 3D before and never had such problems with them (instead, I used to have other issues such as crappy sound, ghost touching etc.).
Flashed Neutrino GT+ ROM, set the max CPU freq to 1 GHz, instead of 1.45 - I don't feel like I need that extra power (at least not yet, anyway). Flashed the Superuser 3.0.7 pack, flashed several Addons, also set the NitroCharger.sh script on boot... I think I pretty much did everything that mattered.
Oh, I flashed the ROM from the internal sdcard (emmc). I don't get why it's reccomended not to flash from the external sdcard, anyways, but... oh well...
-----
The best way to describe the problem(s) I am experiencing is through this movie I've made. I filmed it with a Nokia 6233, so it's not really high definition, but hey, at least it's 480p, not QVGA . Oh well, you can figure, I suppose / hope.
Okay, the problem is the touch panel is acting weird. When I'm browsing through the app drawer, and I slide my finger across and then stop or do something like that, the app that the finger was on is being launched (like I released my finger = touch ended, registered, whatever).
Also, the left and right sides of the screen seem to be less responsive (you can clearly see that in Multitouch Visualiser), especially as you get closer to the edges. Not ALL THE TIMES, though, but roughly 95%, the problem occurs and... well... the touch goes crazy.
----------------------------------------------------
Can anyone confirm that this is happening to them, and not only to me? Perhaps use Multitouch Visualiser yourself and see if you get the same results?!
VIDEO HERE
Formhault said:
Okay, guys. I'm new to this forum (I own the ATRIX since yesterday, so...). I had the HTC Desire, Desire HD and EVO 3D before and never had such problems with them (instead, I used to have other issues such as crappy sound, ghost touching etc.).
Flashed Neutrino GT+ ROM, set the max CPU freq to 1 GHz, instead of 1.45 - I don't feel like I need that extra power (at least not yet, anyway). Flashed the Superuser 3.0.7 pack, flashed several Addons, also set the NitroCharger.sh script on boot... I think I pretty much did everything that mattered.
Oh, I flashed the ROM from the internal sdcard (emmc). I don't get why it's reccomended not to flash from the external sdcard, anyways, but... oh well...
-----
The best way to describe the problem(s) I am experiencing is through this movie I've made. I filmed it with a Nokia 6233, so it's not really high definition, but hey, at least it's 480p, not QVGA . Oh well, you can figure, I suppose / hope.
Okay, the problem is the touch panel is acting weird. When I'm browsing through the app drawer, and I slide my finger across and then stop or do something like that, the app that the finger was on is being launched (like I released my finger = touch ended, registered, whatever).
Also, the left and right sides of the screen seem to be less responsive (you can clearly see that in Multitouch Visualiser), especially as you get closer to the edges. Not ALL THE TIMES, though, but roughly 95%, the problem occurs and... well... the touch goes crazy.
----------------------------------------------------
Can anyone confirm that this is happening to them, and not only to me? Perhaps use Multitouch Visualiser yourself and see if you get the same results?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The app drawer thing is the manner in which you stop it, to stop the app drawer from scrolling, just give a quick very light tap, it also helps to try and tap between two of the apps, if you're using your right hand try to tap between the 3rd and 4th columns, this way you don't tap any icons. To be honest, I never really have any problems at all. Can you give me DETAILED information on how you flashed the ROM? It could be cause by a mistake in the flashing process.
Erebus671 said:
The app drawer thing is the manner in which you stop it, to stop the app drawer from scrolling, just give a quick very light tap, it also helps to try and tap between two of the apps, if you're using your right hand try to tap between the 3rd and 4th columns, this way you don't tap any icons. To be honest, I never really have any problems at all. Can you give me DETAILED information on how you flashed the ROM? It could be cause by a mistake in the flashing process.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I forgot to put the video link in the first topic (I edited it, it is there now).
I put Neutrino GT+ .zip in the emmc (along with all other flashables, actually). I still don't get why it is reccomended to flash from the internal memory instead of an external sdcard. Speaking of internal memory, is it an internal SD card (just like HTC devices with WP7) or NAND?!
Wiped everything in recovery (using the latest RomRacer's CWM). Then, I flashed Neutrino V2.6 GT+.zip, then Lite Gapps, then Deskclock addon, then Languages addon, then Live Wallpapers addon, then Sync addon, then Theme Chooser addon, then TTS addon, then VPN addon. Then rebooted the phone.
The red M logo appeared, and a few seconds after that, it seemed like the phone turned off and turned itself on again (M logo appeared second time, then the boot animation showed up and the ROM booted). I remember that was happening back when I was using CM7 on my old Desire and I was flashing the Gapps right after the ROM. If I were to flash MIUI and then the DarkTremor script (for A2SD), without rebooting in between, the boot splash would appear three times .
Formhault said:
I forgot to put the video link in the first topic (I edited it, it is there now).
I put Neutrino GT+ .zip in the emmc (along with all other flashables, actually). I still don't get why it is reccomended to flash from the internal memory instead of an external sdcard. Speaking of internal memory, is it an internal SD card (just like HTC devices with WP7) or NAND?!
Wiped everything in recovery (using the latest RomRacer's CWM). Then, I flashed Neutrino V2.6 GT+.zip, then Lite Gapps, then Deskclock addon, then Languages addon, then Live Wallpapers addon, then Sync addon, then Theme Chooser addon, then TTS addon, then VPN addon. Then rebooted the phone.
The red M logo appeared, and a few seconds after that, it seemed like the phone turned off and turned itself on again (M logo appeared second time, then the boot animation showed up and the ROM booted). I remember that was happening back when I was using CM7 on my old Desire and I was flashing the Gapps right after the ROM. If I were to flash MIUI and then the DarkTremor script (for A2SD), without rebooting in between, the boot splash would appear three times .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, I'm not exactly sure about what the "Internal SD Card" is, but it is not an actual SD card, I do know that.
Are you at all familiar with fastboot? I would assume so, but I would like to know before I go any further.
Yeah, the double boot before the boot animation is normal.
Erebus671 said:
Okay, I'm not exactly sure about what the "Internal SD Card" is, but it is not an actual SD card, I do know that.
Are you at all familiar with fastboot? I would assume so, but I would like to know before I go any further.
Yeah, the double boot before the boot animation is normal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was assuming it is a SD card, so... Okay, so it is internal memory, so NAND .
I am familiar with fastboot, of course. That's how I was flashing recoveries, radios etc. on the HTC devices : fastboot flash recovery <file.img> etc...
I saw that for Motorola the fastboot commands are a bit different, and this system being somewhat different than it is on HTC devices, I am a bit afraid
Formhault said:
I was assuming it is a SD card, so... Okay, so it is internal memory, so NAND .
I am familiar with fastboot, of course. That's how I was flashing recoveries, radios etc. on the HTC devices : fastboot flash recovery <file.img> etc...
I saw that for Motorola the fastboot commands are a bit different, and this system being somewhat different than it is on HTC devices, I am a bit afraid
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol, okay, I'll give you a thanks for that one.
TBH, I don't use the "moto fastboot" commands, you can just use the general fastboot commands, so try this out..
Do a clean install, using fastboot wipe everything:
Code:
fastboot -w
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot erase boot
fastboot reboot (make sure you're pressing the VOL Down button when you press enter)
reboot into recover and erase the Dalvik cache, once all that is done, flash the ROM as usual and see how it goes... Sometimes all you need is a clean install.
That's how most of my problems get fixed.
OK, I am no longer sure if it's a digitizer malfunction.
What I would do is wipe the screen completely clean with a wet PC cloth or something.
Also, try installing a different launcher (Go Launcher, ADW) and check if it does the same thing.
Usually, when the digitizer dies, the symptoms are - digitizer registers random touches without you touching it.
xploited said:
OK, I am no longer sure if it's a digitizer malfunction.
What I would do is wipe the screen completely clean with a wet PC cloth or something.
Also, try installing a different launcher (Go Launcher, ADW) and check if it does the same thing.
Usually, when the digitizer dies, the symptoms are - digitizer registers random touches without you touching it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That sounds like my problem... but to hell with motorola, I'll buy my own digitizer, damned fools sent me a sim locked phone to replace a sim unlocked phone when I am under a carrier that does not have the equipment to support locking the phones to its network...
Erebus671 said:
TBH, I don't use the "moto fastboot" commands, you can just use the general fastboot commands, so try this out..
Do a clean install, using fastboot wipe everything:
Code:
fastboot -w
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot erase boot
fastboot reboot (make sure you're pressing the VOL Down button when you press enter)
reboot into recover and erase the Dalvik cache, once all that is done, flash the ROM as usual and see how it goes... Sometimes all you need is a clean install.
That's how most of my problems get fixed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No fastboot erase data and etc.? Just those? Mmmmkay . Should I do this when the battery is ABSOLUTELY FULL?! Cause yesterday I flashed when the phone was @ ~20%, and today, when the battery reached 15%, it dropped to 4% as I blinked, rofl (fully charged it earlier today).
Erebus671 said:
lol, okay, I'll give you a thanks for that one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
read my signature, carefully (I'll edit it to match the current state... soon... some day...)
"I've had the Wildfire, Desire & Desire HD before, so I know flies are not eatable "
God damn it, this post is a fail. Head on to the second page, rofl.
xploited said:
OK, I am no longer sure if it's a digitizer malfunction.
What I would do is wipe the screen completely clean with a wet PC cloth or something.
Also, try installing a different launcher (Go Launcher, ADW) and check if it does the same thing.
Usually, when the digitizer dies, the symptoms are - digitizer registers random touches without you touching it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Erebus671 said:
That sounds like my problem... but to hell with motorola, I'll buy my own digitizer, damned fools sent me a sim locked phone to replace a sim unlocked phone when I am under a carrier that does not have the equipment to support locking the phones to its network...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guys, have you tried Multitouch Visualiser?
I mean seriously... Clean your screen (like I did) with a cloth (not NASA-ultrasmooth-bacteria-remover) and then try it in that program... like I did... see if you get the same outcome...
Formhault said:
No fastboot erase data and etc.? Just those? Mmmmkay . Should I do this when the battery is ABSOLUTELY FULL?! Cause yesterday I flashed when the phone was @ ~20%, and today, when the battery reached 15%, it dropped to 4% as I blinked, rofl (fully charged it earlier today).
read my signature, carefully (I'll edit it to match the current state... soon... some day...)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nope.. fastboot -w takes care of that.
The battery thing is simple, once it is fully charged calibrate the battery with a battery calibration app. It's that simple.
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be reading, the device history? or the thanks message?
---------- Post added at 05:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:46 AM ----------
Formhault said:
Guys, have you tried Multitouch Visualiser?
I mean seriously... Clean your screen (like I did) with a cloth (not NASA-ultrasmooth-bacteria-remover) and then try it in that program... like I did... see if you get the same outcome...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have actually and I've gotten up to 8 fingers on there with fairly accurate precision...
Edit: You'll have to elaborate on the non-eatable flies thing, understand I do not... (I didn't see you point that out until after I posted this)
Erebus671 said:
nope.. fastboot -w takes care of that.
The battery thing is simple, once it is fully charged calibrate the battery with a battery calibration app. It's that simple.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought the thing with the battery calibration was sorted already (it is a placebo?). Anyway, I'll do that (placebo DOES have effect, rofl).
Erebus671 said:
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be reading, the device history? or the thanks message?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I edited the original post. Oh well, what I meant is... I'm not REALLY a newbie. Not THAT much of a newbie
Erebus671 said:
I have actually and I've gotten up to 8 fingers on there with fairly accurate precision...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can only get FIVE touch points :/
Also, it seems that 5 is the maximum, lol. So how the heck did you get 8 touch points, and even working PERFECTLY :/ https://www.google.ro/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=motorola+atrix+multi+touch
-----
WHY WON'T posts merge?! -.-
Formhault said:
I thought the thing with the battery calibration was sorted already (it is a placebo?). Anyway, I'll do that (placebo DOES have effect, rofl).
I edited the original post. Oh well, what I meant is... I'm not REALLY a newbie. Not THAT much of a newbie
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uh, no, you're right, the battery life problem was solve, but there is no real solution to the battery calibration issue, that is cause by battery stats remaining over multiple flashes. At least that's how I comprehend it from what I have read in the past. I calibrate my battery on every flash, never once had the problem.
And I edited mine as well, and believe it or not I AM a newbie. I simply seem to not be a newbie (well not a total newbie at least) because I actually follow the first rule of XDA, unlike a lot of the people who have a million questions... Present company excluded... Basically what I just said is, I READ BEFORE I POST. Once again, I will note that I am excluding the present company when I state this.
---------- Post added at 05:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:55 AM ----------
Formhault said:
I can only get FIVE touch points :/
Also, it seems that 5 is the maximum, lol. https://www.google.ro/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=motorola+atrix+multi+touch
-----
WHY WON'T posts merge?! -.-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmm, I'll have to test again... I'll let you know what I get.
Edit: Okay, you got me, 5 it is. I seem to have forgotten and over guestimated. XD
Okay... I say again : should I flash ONLY when the battery is full? I know it wasn't much of a problem on HTCs... The difference was I had to make a few battery cycles afterwards so the battery percentage is displayed right.
Formhault said:
Okay... I say again : should I flash ONLY when the battery is full? I know it wasn't much of a problem on HTCs... The difference was I had to make a few battery cycles afterwards so the battery percentage is displayed right.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not all that important to be fully charged... I do it between 25-30% when I really have to...
Off topic... Is it safe to remove the stock messenger app? Or am I being a newbie?
Erebus671 said:
It's not all that important to be fully charged... I do it between 25-30% when I really have to...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I thought .
I was thinking, somewhat, since the Motorola system is a bit different, it may require a battery closer to full... I had the Motorola V360 before and... oh well, if you know what I'm talking about, nuff said
Formhault said:
As I thought .
I was thinking, somewhat, since the Motorola system is a bit different, it may require a battery closer to full... I had the Motorola V360 before and... oh well, if you know what I'm talking about, nuff said
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol, I know what you're talking about... Horrible customer service aside, I am a tried and true moto fan.
Erebus671 said:
Off topic... Is it safe to remove the stock messenger app? Or am I being a newbie?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I remember this part from the time I was using CM7 on my Desire. God, at that time, I thought CM7 is the ONLY ROM, lol.
Some people were saying that you need to remove/replace some libraries & some other additional files in order to be able to fully replace the stock Messaging app. I ended up just adding Handcent SMS and using the option from within its Settings menu to disable the stock Messaging app notification.
Of course, I no longer use Handcent. I was, almost a year ago. Now I'll just wait for MIUI to be fully working on the ATRIX then...

Can't format, tons of apps crashing.

So... I have FJ Mod on my note. Things have been running great for a long time. Then a few days a go, out of the blue, google voice was constantly crashing. Then the gapps process. Then it got ridiculous and everything would crash. Then I noticed that when I restart, it saves nothing that I had done. For instance, my call log, text messages, moved icons on my homepage.
I did a wipe in CWM, and everything came back the exact same. Still the same problem, icons still in the wrong place... no idea whats going on.
Has anyone got any advice for me? I was going to try and put a new ROM on later if worse comes to worse, but as is, this is very frustrating. I often have to restart my phone just to use the browser, or message, or anything really. I am just hoping that my internal SD isn't screwed some how and now allowing me to write to it. I haven't done any changes. I don't even believe I have downloaded any apps since a week or so prior to this issue.
Flashing with ODIN did not good either. I tried to revert back to stock. It uploaded with no issues apparently, and then when it rebooted I was back in ICS with everything as it was... argh.
Find one of the the ics leaka one click Odin packages and run that. Should wipe everything, and then you just have to flash cwm and root again.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
welchertc said:
Find one of the the ics leaka one click Odin packages and run that. Should wipe everything, and then you just have to flash cwm and root again.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I tried something similar with a rogers stock rom. Booted up Odin, connected to issues. Uploaded/transferred no issues. Figured I'd be on stock Gingerbread upon bootup, but it was ICS! I've done this and similar on multiple phones, not sure whats happening. I will try again with a different rom as you suggested tonight.
I know where the leaks are...this loser has them here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
welchertc said:
Find one of the the ics leaka one click Odin packages and run that. Should wipe everything, and then you just have to flash cwm and root again.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
johnnyb82 said:
Well, I tried something similar with a rogers stock rom. Booted up Odin, connected to issues. Uploaded/transferred no issues. Figured I'd be on stock Gingerbread upon bootup, but it was ICS! I've done this and similar on multiple phones, not sure whats happening. I will try again with a different rom as you suggested tonight.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
bigjoe2675 said:
I know where the leaks are...this loser has them here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Greatly appreciated! Thanks for posting the link. I will try it tonight and let you know how it works out.
johnnyb82 said:
So... I have FJ Mod on my note. Things have been running great for a long time. Then a few days a go, out of the blue, google voice was constantly crashing. Then the gapps process. Then it got ridiculous and everything would crash.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the EXACT problem, out of the blue as well. I didn't have the other stated problems in your OP but I did have the one quoted above. First voice , then a few google apps(gmail, drive, etc). The apps would hang for a few 1-2 minutes (felt like hours) and the phone including capacitive buttons became unresponsive and couldn't do anything with the phone. The "wait" or "ok" buttons on the force close popup were not clickable.. It sorted itself out in a few days and boy did it drive me NUTS. I was afraid to post up here in fear people would think I was nuts and did something myself to make things go so awry. I was convinced I myself was nuts.. im by no means daft when it comes to android dev/tinkering lol. Very strange
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
Well I was impatient and tried 2 different roms right away. Neither worked. Odin showed "pass", no errors. Then it does its auto-restart and bam, back where I was. Not having the best of luck with this right now.
Any other ideas would be appreciated!
simbill said:
I had the EXACT problem, out of the blue as well. I didn't have the other stated problems in your OP but I did have the one quoted above. First voice , then a few google apps(gmail, drive, etc). The apps would hang for a few 1-2 minutes (felt like hours) and the phone including capacitive buttons became unresponsive and couldn't do anything with the phone. The "wait" or "ok" buttons on the force close popup were not clickable.. It sorted itself out in a few days and boy did it drive me NUTS. I was afraid to post up here in fear people would think I was nuts and did something myself to make things go so awry. I was convinced I myself was nuts.. im by no means daft when it comes to android dev/tinkering lol. Very strange
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL I actually waited a few days before posting here too. I was hoping that maybe uninstalling and reinstalling some, or updated, or clearing cache and all that would help. As you can see, it did nothing. Heck, after I restart my updates didnt even stick and Google Play is trying to download them again!
Well... still no luck.
Here is another thing I noticed. When I hook up the note to my PC, and look at it, I cannot access my external SD. Furthermore, I had a file on my internal SD that I deleted. When I restarted my phone the file was back. Yet in windows it removed without error. I have no idea what is happening at all.
And now its reading it again........ Ive literally been sitting here trying a bunch of different ways to fix this. Playing around in CWM, trying ODIN including a couple 1 click solutions. The one starts writing to NAND, then stops and gives me an error.
Try taking out your sd card and running it for a while. First note i got was acting that way from the get go. Took it back and got a new one. It started doing the same thing. Finally took out sd card and ran great. Card was going bad. I had replaced the 8 gb stock card with the 16 gb one i had in another phone and apparently the mote didn't like it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
johnnyb82 said:
Well... still no luck.
Here is another thing I noticed. When I hook up the note to my PC, and look at it, I cannot access my external SD. Furthermore, I had a file on my internal SD that I deleted. When I restarted my phone the file was back. Yet in windows it removed without error. I have no idea what is happening at all.
And now its reading it again........ Ive literally been sitting here trying a bunch of different ways to fix this. Playing around in CWM, trying ODIN including a couple 1 click solutions. The one starts writing to NAND, then stops and gives me an error.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you, by any chance, install a custom kernal? IIRC, one of them messed with the mount points. By far, the only way to fix your issue immediately will involve restoring to stock through ODIN, then rerooting and reflashing CWM. This will 100% mark your Note as either defective, or prove that it's a problem in another area. However, I don't believe your problem is with your SD Card, unless you've been using an app like apps2sd.
If you're weary about doing this, try to reflash CWM, or TWRP to figure out if it's something going on with the recovery partition and/or settings. I'm no expert, but the only thing I'm aware of that sticks around through a wipe, and multiple flashes are our recovery, our internal SD files (possible), and sometimes the modem. Also, the one click leaks include a not loader, which could prevent you from restoring a GB Nandroid.
By flashing CWM, then TWRP, then CWM again, or sticking with TWRP, you at least knock out one variable...and by reformatting your internal SD, you ensure no resources are sticking around.
Edit:are you using TiBu to backup and restore/migrate after a flash? Verify your backups under the batch lost.
What could be happening, is you're restoring data in CWM, or TiBu, or w/e ap you're using, and then the Google account sync restore is restoring your settings, and replacing the desired ones, or vice versa.
Edit again: Which launcher are you using? Which utilities do you use? What are your main root apps?
The backup verify is a must...but some launchers will scoot icons out of the way. If you're having a touch screen issue, or an S Pen issue, you could be draggn items around when you're not aware of it.
I'll see this through. You've caught my interest.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
johnnyb82 said:
So... I have FJ Mod on my note. Things have been running great for a long time. Then a few days a go, out of the blue, google voice was constantly crashing. Then the gapps process. Then it got ridiculous and everything would crash. Then I noticed that when I restart, it saves nothing that I had done. For instance, my call log, text messages, moved icons on my homepage.
I did a wipe in CWM, and everything came back the exact same. Still the same problem, icons still in the wrong place... no idea whats going on.
Has anyone got any advice for me? I was going to try and put a new ROM on later if worse comes to worse, but as is, this is very frustrating. I often have to restart my phone just to use the browser, or message, or anything really. I am just hoping that my internal SD isn't screwed some how and now allowing me to write to it. I haven't done any changes. I don't even believe I have downloaded any apps since a week or so prior to this issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also, tap USB utilities in settings, by the other FJ mods, and tap the selection there, then check to see if you can find your SD card through your PC.
In addition to the above, you can also enter the "Tools" section of FJmods, and disable ad blocking, remove touchwiz UI, s voice, etcetera, and return ALL settings too default, and remove all extras. You can reflash recovery there too.
How are you trying to reformat your SD card?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
Jamesyboy said:
Also, tap USB utilities in settings, by the other FJ mods, and tap the selection there, then check to see if you can find your SD card through your PC.
In addition to the above, you can also enter the "Tools" section of FJmods, and disable ad blocking, remove touchwiz UI, s voice, etcetera, and return ALL settings too default, and remove all extras. You can reflash recovery there too.
How are you trying to reformat your SD card?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had installed a custom kernel on Gingerbread before, but obviously that was replaced with the one I used with FJmod. It had been operating fine for over a month.
Also, I removed my SD Card, and tried everything without it. I have tried restoring gingerbread stock and ICS stock through both ODIN and CWM. Even formatting through CWM does nothing as when I restart I am back to normal.
As for root, I only had 2-3 programs with access. ES File Manager/Task manager, and I tried one called Lucky Patcher (I will verify this evening). All of these had been on for at least a week prior to all this beginning.
I havent been using TiBu for anything at all actually.
The launcher I am using at the moment is Nova.
Other than that, I am going to try a few of your suggestions once I am done work. I will post my results tonight!
Thanks for the suggestions and info, greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Just to be clear. I am formatting then restarting and all my apps, icon placements and wallpaper return. Even my call history is stuck up to the 13th and erases recent calls. I am also trying to revert to stock ICS and Gingerbread through both ODIN and CWM. After it is done installing through ODIN and reboots, I return to the way my phone was before. Same with CWM. After flashing through CWM I return right back to the way it was. I am not doing any restoring or anything. I have done this plenty of times in the past before. The only thing I can possibly imagine at this point is that my SD is somehow stuck on read only. Yet it is weird because again, I can delete files and apps (and even windows shows them as gone), but after a restart they are all back! I can remove apps, but they are still in the app menu too.... I can even run them lol (even after deleting their folder). The phone is stuck in stasis.
All of this just happened one day out of the blue. No new apps (for at least a week) too.
I have a GTab that had the EXACT same symptoms.. turns out it's internal flash memory was bad, not the microSD. going for broke I opened it up and desoldered the flash memory IC and it uses the microSD now as its primary storage. If even after a stock reflash you have problems I hope you have warranty.
Black6spdZ said:
I have a GTab that had the EXACT same symptoms.. turns out it's internal flash memory was bad, not the microSD. going for broke I opened it up and desoldered the flash memory IC and it uses the microSD now as its primary storage. If even after a stock reflash you have problems I hope you have warranty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great... lol! I have a warranty, but no one will work with it due to the fact I have a custom rom. Am I maybe contacting the wrong people? I contacted Rogers and they said they couldn't help me. Well I am going to purchase the s3 as I get a small discount on it. I am positive I will end up with the next note unless some sort of crazy deal passes in front of me for another note.
johnnyb82 said:
Great... lol! I have a warranty, but no one will work with it due to the fact I have a custom rom. Am I maybe contacting the wrong people? I contacted Rogers and they said they couldn't help me. Well I am going to purchase the s3 as I get a small discount on it. I am positive I will end up with the next note unless some sort of crazy deal passes in front of me for another note.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No stock Odin for your phone? I would attempt this to be absolutely sure the problem isn't software related.. they should warranty hardware faults.
Black6spdZ said:
No stock Odin for your phone? I would attempt this to be absolutely sure the problem isn't software related.. they should warranty hardware faults.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No sir. I tried stock gingerbread and ics. I've tried custom roms. I've tried just erasing it too! Tried Odin and CWM. I am going to try and change recovery today again too.
Rogers said they won't help. They used the word "launcher" but I knew what he meant. They think I may have overclocked it any burnt it out I bet. Maybe I will try calling samsung.
Thing is, all my private info is on there! At least no private pics though
johnnyb82 said:
No sir. I tried stock gingerbread and ics. I've tried custom roms. I've tried just erasing it too! Tried Odin and CWM. I am going to try and change recovery today again too.
Rogers said they won't help. They used the word "launcher" but I knew what he meant. They think I may have overclocked it any burnt it out I bet. Maybe I will try calling samsung.
Thing is, all my private info is on there! At least no private pics though
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your have insurance, and it turns out the phone was physically damaged , you could try making a claim....but that's only if it was physically damaged. So you restored stock through odin? Did this happen on the stock unrooted rom?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
Jamesyboy said:
If your have insurance, and it turns out the phone was physically damaged , you could try making a claim....but that's only if it was physically damaged. So you restored stock through odin? Did this happen on the stock unrooted rom?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well its currently stuck on FJ Mod (which I think is a great rom), and then it just started acting up. I cannot restore Gingerbread stock, or ICS stock, or anything else. ODIN and CWM both show completed on my attempts, but upon reboot my device is back exactly where it left off on the 13th.
I picked up the S3 and I like it, but I miss my note badly

[Q] Verizon Galaxy S4 Bootloader Unlocked Randomly

So I picked up my VZW GS4 yesterday from Best Buy. I was out to dinner with my cousin, and the battery died (after a full day of very heavy usage). I tried to turn it back on to check something quickly, and when I did, the Samsung boot screen showed the unlocked bootloader symbol, with the words custom underneath it. I thought I was crazy and seeing things, so I rebooted again, and it was still there. Has anyone else run into this? I find it hard to believe that my bootloader just randomly unlocked itself.
I attached an image so people can tell me if that really is what it seems. Let me know if anyone has any idea what is going on.
Achievement unlocked!
Hey, less work for you in the end. (if you like to flash and rom that is)
I say Congrats!
Did you root and not flash the original kernel back on?
vanydotk said:
Did you root and not flash the original kernel back on?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. I had decided not to fiddle with anything until I decided how I liked the stock Touchwiz UI. I had the GNex before this, and messed with that to my hearts content, running clockworkmod recovery and cyanogenmod 10.1., but was waiting to try anything on this. That's why I'm confused, I've done absolutely nothing to it to customization wise. I haven't even set a wallpaper yet lol.
Maybe they shipped you a dev unit. Wouldn't be the first time lol
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
shuddle13 said:
So I picked up my VZW GS4 yesterday from Best Buy. I was out to dinner with my cousin, and the battery died (after a full day of very heavy usage). I tried to turn it back on to check something quickly, and when I did, the Samsung boot screen showed the unlocked bootloader symbol, with the words custom underneath it. I thought I was crazy and seeing things, so I rebooted again, and it was still there. Has anyone else run into this? I find it hard to believe that my bootloader just randomly unlocked itself.
I attached an image so people can tell me if that really is what it seems. Let me know if anyone has any idea what is going on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's awesome, lucky you
If I got a dev edition, that is awesome :laugh:, saves me a lot of work down the road if I decide to run a custom rom. I swear I had rebooted it at least once (I feel like it might have been 2 or 3 times) prior to this, and don't remember it being there before. But now I'm second guessing myself - maybe I hadn't rebooted up to that point, or I did and just didn't notice it. That's what is throwing me off more than anything, I thought it just happened randomly, which I found hard to believe considering the amount of work that goes into finding a way to unlock a phone's bootloader.
So this leads me to a more important question. As I said earlier, I planned on keeping stock rom with Touchwiz for now (I know how many people feel about it, please don't give me 20 replies telling me how awful it is) but my main concern at this point is that I'm getting the bootloader unlocked symbol, and the word custom. When I go into settings and check the info on my phone, it tells me that device status is 'custom'. Now, correct me if I am wrong (but I'm fairly certain I'm not) I won't be able to get any OTA updates, because it will read my device as custom - and this is where I'm fairly certain something wonkey has happened, because I remember playing around in settings yesterday and seeing that it said device status 'official'. Basically, any speculation as to what the heck might happened (it isn't something any app could have done either, if that's even possible. I'm still setting up the device and barely have anything on there, and certainly not anything that would cause my phone to say custom) and any way at this point to get it back to device status official? I know a root method had just been released, but I wasn't sure about unroot.
That is not indicating an unlocked bootloader. Your phone has been rooted and the person that did it either did not odin back to the stock kernel or he flashed a custom recovery.
Please read forum rules before posting
Questions and Help issues go in Q&A and Help section
Thread moved
Than you for your cooperation
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
brizey said:
That is not indicating an unlocked bootloader. Your phone has been rooted and the person that did it either did not odin back to the stock kernel or he flashed a custom recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same screen out if the box. So I decided to root and install cwm but it failed. Reading more they say it fails because the locked boot loader. So I'm confused
After rooting i flashed the stock kernel back. And that screen as seen in the first screenshot has not changed..
What do you think?
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2
brizey said:
That is not indicating an unlocked bootloader. Your phone has been rooted and the person that did it either did not odin back to the stock kernel or he flashed a custom recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I'd go with my phone being rooted, which doesn't really make sense unless someone at the Samsung Factory rooted it before sending it out, except I have a weird development. I pulled the sd card I bought (64GB Samsung Pro MicroSDXC Extreme Speed (UHS-1) Class 10 Memory Card), from Amazon directly, not a retailer on Amazon) turned it back on, and now I'm not getting the unlocked symbol and device status is back to official. I rebooted, turned it off, did a battery pull, and turned it back on, every combination of restarting the device I could think of, and every time it says official. I put the memory card back in, and at first it says official. Then I reboot, and it goes back to being unlocked and custom. Going to try formatting the SD card to see where that gets me, but at this point, it makes no sense to me.
I flashed back to the stock kernel after flashing the exploit one and I have the same screen on start up. Not sure why but it doesn't really bother me.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda premium
Since rooting I've randomly had that screen too. I just rebooted and didn't have it this time. No clue what's going on.
I tested the memory card theory, and that is in fact the problem. Tried formatting it, but it still causes my phone to read custom. Not sure if it is a faulty memory card, if the phone can't read this type of memory card (I know some devices can't read SDXC UHS-1 cards, but I thought I researched and the S4 should), or it's a software issue with the phone that needs patched. I'm leaning toward the last one, but got in touch with Amazon and they are sending me a replacement card. Will update once I get the new card. If anyone else is experiencing the same or similar issues, or has any idea what is going on, I would appreciate the input. Like I said before, it's not a major issue until I need to do an OTA update. At that point, worst case scenario, if the problem isn't fixed, I can always just pull the memory card. But don't want to go through the hassle if I can pinpoint the problem and fix it.
shuddle13 said:
I tested the memory card theory, and that is in fact the problem. Tried formatting it, but it still causes my phone to read custom. Not sure if it is a faulty memory card, if the phone can't read this type of memory card (I know some devices can't read SDXC UHS-1 cards, but I thought I researched and the S4 should), or it's a software issue with the phone that needs patched. I'm leaning toward the last one, but got in touch with Amazon and they are sending me a replacement card. Will update once I get the new card. If anyone else is experiencing the same or similar issues, or has any idea what is going on, I would appreciate the input. Like I said before, it's not a major issue until I need to do an OTA update. At that point, worst case scenario, if the problem isn't fixed, I can always just pull the memory card. But don't want to go through the hassle if I can pinpoint the problem and fix it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's weird, my 32gb sandisk microsd doesn't effect it.
Have the same issue with the lock showing on bootscreen randomly. I haven't tried this morning but I think I am on something. Setup a link with foldermount, something from internal memory to the SD card. After a reboot and foldermount sets up the link at boot up, reboot and see if you get the lock /custom boot screen
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda premium
I have the same issue and have another thread going on it. It said it once when reboot and device status changes from custom to original randomly in settings. Bought the phone brand new from Verizon yesterday.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
Very odd. I get that now, but I rooted to get it.
Root has nothing to do with being unlocked though therefor I think it would do it bone stock like mine as well.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app

Categories

Resources