Wondering if MS said anything about their first gen of wp7 are guaranteed to get mango update? I dont recall that upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5 was rolled out to all of their past devices. To give MS justice though, the update took a lot of time and there could be devices more than 1 years old.
Another thing, how come i notice in singapore, mozart is less cheaper compared to trophy.. Whats the upside of throphy compared to mozart?
every windows phoine 7 wil get mango
Trophy is a cheaper phone.
My wife has one, and I a Mozart - the only real difference is the camera and single mold case.
Otherwise, the Mozart is a little smaller - but is much more expensive in Australia (60% more or so).
I kinda like the trophy though..
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i haven't heard MS confirm this - i'm HOPING it's true but i haven't seen anything official. Have you?
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i haven't heard MS confirm this - i'm HOPING it's true but i haven't seen anything official. Have you?
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Yes, in MIX11 they have stated that. Some hardware options embedded in the new hardware chassis won't be available in the 1 GEN of WP7 like gyroscope, but MS also stated they will develop some kind of emulator for this to the current devices. It wont be as good as the hardware ones, but it will work.
All current devices will get Mando for sure.
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Yes, in MIX11 they have stated that.
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That's good to hear - i followed the MIX11 updates specifically looking for this information and didn't hear them say it - have you got a link?
i know they said about the gyro but i didn't hear anything where they specifically said that all current devices would DEFINATELY be getting mango.
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Trophy is a cheaper phone.
My wife has one, and I a Mozart - the only real difference is the camera and single mold case.
Otherwise, the Mozart is a little smaller - but is much more expensive in Australia (60% more or so).
I kinda like the trophy though..
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in hong kong windows 7 phones are droping prices like mad, it's because there are no chinese language for the main menu, and the price for the mozart 7, some shops are selling them more than the HD7.
I don't have any link right now, but its "common sense" that all current devices will have the updates, MS stated that even before they launched WP7...
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I don't have any link right now, but its "common sense" that all current devices will have the updates, MS stated that even before they launched WP7...
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i know it's 'common sense' - but that doesn't mean anything
Because they've bumped the release number up to 7.5 - this is technically NOT an update but a new version - historically for MS this means no upgrades and until i see or hear one of them say that "current devices will get this as an update" i'm not going to hold my breath.
The OP was looking for someone with DEFINITE PROOF - not just speculating.
at which point do we STOP expecting updates? wp8? WP8.5? wp9? wp10?
In Thailand, the price drop from over 630 USD to 230 USD within 3 months.
WTF HCT marketing.
Even the price are low but no one want to buy its, cuz they don't guarantee mango for this device.
What do you think?
I don't have an official link, i have read on lots of websites that the current devices will have Mango update, and i support this.
On MIX11, they even stated that since hardware gyroscope probably isn't available on current devices, the Mango update will have an emulation mode for these devices.
Also, several hardware specs were added or improved, but not removed.
Microsoft is in this for the long run and they wan't the OS to be successful. I'm sure they will provide future updates to current devices as long as it will be a good experience on current devices. Updates for all devices was also a big spec announced for WP and even if this could be a different version in number, i don't think that would change anything, this is not computers and Windows usually have a minimum 2 year between major versions.
Although this is considered "the next major version of Windows Phone" it is also being treated like an update, and traditionally MS releases the updates for free.
I'm not sure on Windows 8 thought, but i believe that will come at the end of 2012
EDIT: So now that Mango was officially presented by Microsoft and announced as free to all current devices and being available on fall, do you believe me?
I am waiting for my htc hd2 to get mango, so far DFT NODO rom is working perfect.
Every wp7 phone
It is said that "Every existing WP7 phone in the market will get the Mango Update" and the update is in this coming Fall.
MS is now making WP7 just like iPhone iOS where every WP7 phones will get the update just like how NoDo Updates is......for every WP7 phone.
i told you lot before. jsut listen and stop doubting. This is not andoroid (howver not saying android is bad, as its not as a previous user). But I have a feeling mango and the update after that and possible the one after that will be compatiable, until they focus on dual core phones and optimizing them. As whats the point of have a dual core phone if the software only uses on core
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In Thailand, the price drop from over 630 USD to 230 USD within 3 months.
WTF HCT marketing.
Even the price are low but no one want to buy its, cuz they don't guarantee mango for this device.
What do you think?
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this is a good one.
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I don't have an official link, i have read on lots of websites that the current devices will have Mango update, and i support this.
Microsoft is in this for the long run and they wan't the OS to be successful.
EDIT: So now that Mango was officially presented by Microsoft and announced as free to all current devices and being available on fall, do you believe me?
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are you working with M/s?
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...are you working with M/s?
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No! Why do you ask?
WP7 devices will get the Mango update . i read this some where but should happen ...
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No! Why do you ask?
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juz ask, cos from the way U wrote made me wonder U worked in M/S.
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WP7 devices will get the Mango update . i read this some where but should happen ...
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yeah, shld happen . . . . .
still waiting, . . . . .
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i hope thats right
That have been confirmed several times now: ALL current WP7 devices will get the Mango update
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I thought about getting the upcoming HTC SHIFT
but as it was not phone call capable I decided not to.
now it appears YOU CAN make phone calls as well
via a bluetooth headset like I do with my ameo.
with a 800x600 screen. vista support and hsdpa
I think I may have to Crack and get one.
im a data freak and rarely make calls so I think I will find it hard to resist if it does make calls.
It's a dual device... it's basically a combination of a PDA and a PC.
the PDA part runs Windows Mobile and obviously has a phone interface which is essentially a reproduction of the new PDAs HTC have released like the Kaiser.
There's also a PC part which runs Vista... although HTC won't be releasing rom updates for this part since quite obviously... it'd take ****ing ages to download and probably butcher HTC's bandwidth.
currently, the only reason the device isn't out already is because HTC's marketing department haven't got round to pulling their fingers out yet.
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the PDA part runs Windows Mobile and obviously has a phone interface which is essentially a reproduction of the new PDAs HTC have released like the Kaiser.
There's also a PC part which runs Vista... although HTC won't be releasing rom updates for this part since quite obviously... it'd take ****ing ages to download and probably butcher HTC's bandwidth.
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Where did you get this info from?
I've been following discussions on the Shift very closely, and so far no one has been able to confirm that it can make voice calls.
Also, it does not run Windows Mobile as we know it, it runs 'Snapvue', which is a very cut down version of Windows Mobile, which has no phone interface - it just deals with email, SMS, calendar and contacts, without having to boot into Vista. It also (apparently) cannot use Bluetooth or Wifi from the Snapvue interface, only 3g. BT and Wifi are only available in Vista.
It looks like this device will not be living up to the hype it has generated.... without the voice calls, and with seemingly very poor battery life when using vista, I may be cancelling my pre-order.
its due out on Nov 19th UK approx 800 squids
the early reviews said that it was not voice capable
see the gottabemobile video review.
but now it apears they have done the smart thing and activated it.
as a much more internet/pc orientated chap rather than talk on a mobile . I am very very tempted by this.
how much would I get for a tmobile ameo on pk3
rom v good condition
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its due out on Nov 19th UK approx 800 squids
the early reviews said that it was not voice capable
see the gottabemobile video review.
but now it apears they have done the smart thing and activated it.
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Link? I'd like to see some proof of this.
And get rid of the Ameo? Nah... No way I can justify having all these expensive toys, but I couldn't get rid of the Ameo!
Incidentally, Orange will be offering the Shift on a data contract in the UK from early December.
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Link? I'd like to see some proof of this.
Incidentally, Orange will be offering the Shift on a data contract in the UK from early December.
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I phoned up expansys who are selling them and they told me it was voice capable, I also saw it on a website but can't remember where
as for orange data ...most likely 100 mb for 45 quid a month
POO ...
just called HTC they said NO voice calls, just
skype oh well saved 800 quid then
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Where did you get this info from?
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Do you seriously expect me to answer that?
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Do you seriously expect me to answer that?
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No I don't, as you were wrong.
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No I don't, as you were wrong.
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No he's not
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No he's not
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I really hope he's not wrong, as it would make the device much more usable.
However, when a random stranger on an online forum, even if it is Olipro, tells me something but can't or won't back up their statement with some evidence, and every other source of information tells me that he is wrong, then I have to assume that he is, indeed, wrong.
WELL the sad news is that the SUPPORT people at HTC told me it is NOT voice capable so i guess thats pretty much from the Horses mouth
MMM getting ready for new device??!!??
im sure it will be hacked if not possible from the outset and some companies are offering them at discount rates with a mobile contract (non official) so my 3rd contract is up for renewal so may have 2 get one, with or with out voice support.... but with will mean a nice tmobile ameo going up for sale on ebay or here totally unlocked with pk 3.0 there will no doubt be a glut of these on the market and value will plummet..........
Knowing HTC, the Shift probably is BT voice call capable hardware wise, but is disabled via software from making calls!
feast your eyes on that you whiney *****.
or perhaps you'd like to accuse me of forging it?
okay this document also states intgernal gps? is this true as well?? hopefully that would be sweeterthan what has being announced maybe they included t but no support like on past phones hiding gps and fm radio....
it wasnt my intention to start a war here chaps , BUT the tech support at HTC told me voice calls are NOT available
only via skype. Personally that seems like a ludicrous decision as you still need 2 devices and the SHIFT will be just like other HSDPA capable laptops that are readily available.
To be honestI am considering geting a nice laptop and maybe getting a smaller HSDPA phone to use as a phone and a modem.
I hooked up my Ameo to our work laptop yesterday to try out the modem capabilities and i must say i was hugely impressed with how fast it was.
I would really like to have the full pc online experience and phone ability in one package but looks like this isnt the case
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Don't worry, most of us here already realise that Olipro is to immature and arrogant to hold a sensible conversation on any subject.
Clever he may be, a nice guy he isn't.
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Clever he may be, a nice guy he isn't.
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Quite right, I'm a nasty **** who hates everybody.
now... how does that PDF grab you?
So it mentions that i supports bluetooth headset (or it is an "option"), and that's nice. Will make it easier to use with Live Messenger or Skype.
But where does it say that the Shift can make phone calls?
I'm not trying to pick a fight, just trying to figure this out.
yup just putting the word out. pictures and more info here http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3018 lol I wonder how long it will takes us to get our hands on this one
windows mobile 6.5 walk thru for video click link http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/255/71.733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474406
my friend the link I already knew about, Da_G is doing his best to get a BETA version of 6.5. I am talking about the "official" release. Which microsoft has made it official to have devices come out the end of 2009. But that doesnt mean we wont have it sooner, all we need is a leak and then DA_G wont have to work as hard
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Microsoft said. "Manufacturer’s will not be able to customise the interface as much as they have done in the past
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Tell me if I'm wrong but visual layers as manilla are an add-on software, not a modification of the OS. So how could microsoft no allow such UI
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Microsoft said. "Manufacturer’s will not be able to customise the interface as much as they have done in the past
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Tell me if I'm wrong but visual layers as manilla are an add-on software, not a modification of the OS. So how could microsoft no allow such UI
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That explains alot in regard to the difficulties surrounding the issues Da_G and others have had getting things to work correctly on the betas. It is not a good sign that Microsoft is taking this approach. This tells me that the issues with the ui breaking with lots of third party software are only going to get worse. I have a feeling we are going to have alot more problems with 6.5 than we would like before its all over.
It saying late 2009 so that means windows mobile 7 prolly wont be out until 2011 maybe cause i doubt if they release it 2010 after releasing 6.5 late in 2009.
Yea im cant wait for the not beat leak for 6.5 for the fuze
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That explains alot in regard to the difficulties surrounding the issues Da_G and others have had getting things to work correctly on the betas. It is not a good sign that Microsoft is taking this approach. This tells me that the issues with the ui breaking with lots of third party software are only going to get worse. I have a feeling we are going to have alot more problems with 6.5 than we would like before its all over.
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My guess is that they're trying to establish a more consistent appearance of the operating system for branding purpose. It's hard to say "this is what a windows phone looks like" when every manufacturer makes it look different. My guess is that 3rd party UI's will still be around though, and they're just talking about what a stock phone looks like.
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Yea im cant wait for the not beat leak for 6.5 for the fuze
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Its not happening:
Sadly, Microsoft's saying that no devices in the market today will receive official 6.5 updates, but don't pull out your wallets just yet, though -- the first devices with Windows Mobile 6.5 preinstalled should be available in the fourth quarter of the year.
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/16/microsoft-announces-windows-mobile-6-5/
So it won't be leaking for the Raph. The leak will probably be a generic leak, not customized for any specific (or maybe customized for another new phone) phone so the guys here will play/work extra hard to make it work on the Raph.
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My guess is that they're trying to establish a more consistent appearance of the operating system for branding purpose. It's hard to say "this is what a windows phone looks like" when every manufacturer makes it look different. My guess is that 3rd party UI's will still be around though, and they're just talking about what a stock phone looks like.
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I hear what your saying and I agree with Microsofts idea to some extent. I hope your right about the UI's Scotchua.
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Sadly, Microsoft's saying that no devices in the market today will receive official 6.5 updates, but don't pull out your wallets just yet, though -- the first devices with Windows Mobile 6.5 preinstalled should be available in the fourth quarter of the year.
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So it won't be leaking for the Raph. The leak will probably be a generic leak, not customized for any specific (or maybe customized for another new phone) phone so the guys here will play/work extra hard to make it work on the Raph.
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My guess is this is why HTC's leaked roadmap shows att coming out with a new phone called the barium that is almost identical to the fuze. That will be the 6.5 variant.
What the heck, is it just me or is there not a picture of an "OK" button anywhere...
at least now I know what my "X" button is supposed to look like..
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What the heck, is it just me or is there not a picture of an "OK" button anywhere...
at least now I know what my "X" button is supposed to look like..
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LOL ... Theirs is a little small than yours just a little. Im amazed at how far IE has come. SPEECHLESS>.
Now I want a Touch Pro 2. Ill be drooling for the next 6-8 months waiting for it
What I read none of the older devices will get 6.5. The only ones released with 6.1 that will get 6.5 are the TP2 and Diamond 2 due out in late Q2
I'm kind of intrigued by 6.5 but its not a huge deal for me the news apps look cool, most of the improved functionality I can get with fingermenu and manilla, IMHO Manilla with fingermenu > then 6.5 (though if we could have all together that would be great). What I really want (and I'm searching for on all kinds of asian boards) is the latest version of manilla the TP2 runs. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
can we have a confirmation if we will have a wm 6.5 rom upgrade from htc?
in terms of processor both touch pro and touch pro 2 have same MHz (different chipset though).... only higher resolution.
And during the livecast i think steve ballmer said something about wm6.5 being available on phones in all price ranges... that could mean our touch pro will be able to do wm 6.5 as it has some horsepower underneath
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can we have a confirmation if we will have a wm 6.5 rom upgrade from htc?
in terms of processor both touch pro and touch pro 2 have same MHz (different chipset though).... only higher resolution.
And during the livecast i think steve ballmer said something about wm6.5 being available on phones in all price ranges... that could mean our touch pro will be able to do wm 6.5 as it has some horsepower underneath
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Everything I have read thus far says no that touch pro will not get a upgrade to 6.5.
Hopefully we will see different over the coming weeks.
we even have on our toch pro (and touch diamond) the required windows button: in our case it is the home button... it could have same functionality.. and the back, call end/start buttons too.. so that is checked, like the processor speed.. lol its only up to htc's decision to prolong the life of an "outdated" product or not (in their vision, as on some us carriers it just got launched)
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Everything I have read thus far says no that touch pro will not get a upgrade to 6.5.
Hopefully we will see different over the coming weeks.
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It wont cause of the fact touch pro 2 rumor to be release in 2nd quarter. Which has the tilt screen again. Which i loved my at&t tilt. plus tp2 looks thinner.
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Now I want a Touch Pro 2. Ill be drooling for the next 6-8 months waiting for it
What I read none of the older devices will get 6.5. The only ones released with 6.1 that will get 6.5 are the TP2 and Diamond 2 due out in late Q2
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The manufacturers and software engineers are killing me!! Just about the time I think I have a great phone and become satisfied with a cooked ROM, they go and tease me with a newer, better version of what I already have. Don’t these people know the state of the world economy?!
I agree about tp2
I already told my fiance that I am getting it and she was like you just brought that phone, so we came to the conclusion I had buy her a new X-Pole. I think the tp2 looks alot like the nokia teaser I saw a couple of months ago http://mashable.com/2008/12/02/nokia-n97-facebook/ I may try to get both.
Regarding your enquiry, kindly be informed that we are working on an Eclair update (2.0) for the HTC Hero. Because Eclair is a significantly enhanced release, it will require some time to update Sense for this new version of the Android OS. Please be patient while we work to provide you with a tightly integrated experience like the one you are already enjoying on your Hero.
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Regarding your request, unfortunately this is the only information we have at the moment regarding that matter, regrettably there is no information regarding Android 2.1 operating system neither a confirmation that it will be available nor a denial, kindly check on the HTC website on the support page to keep track of any newly released upgrades.
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We have waited for a long time so far and the day we get 2.0, it will be an old version already.
MCR 3.1 > Android 2.x
It clearly sux but sense adds a lot to android, so the difference between 2.0 and 2.1 is way smaller than the difference between 2.1 and 2.0 + sense.
We just have to hope that 2.0 won't be the last update for the Hero...
It takes time to develop these things.
As for the quotes from HTC, those are your standard "I'm just a CSR and I'm not allowed to say anything whether I actually know it or not" response. And we really haven't waited that long. A couple months? For HTC to overhaul their UI to a completely new API? Be patient, it's coming. I'd be willing to bet that the update is 2.1, since we already have a ROM based on an HTC leak. Why would there be a leaked 2.1 ROM if they weren't going to put one out?
@kouray: The phone's been out for less than a year. This won't be the last update.
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We have waited for a long time so far and the day we get 2.0, it will be an old version already.
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HTC have already tweeted last month that the Sprint Hero will be getting 2.1 instead of 2.0. There's no reason to believe that this isn't also true of the GSM Hero!
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HTC have already tweeted last month that the Sprint Hero will be getting 2.1 instead of 2.0. There's no reason to believe that this isn't also true of the GSM Hero!
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I also would like to believe in that we will get 2.1 instead of 2.0. But I pasted the response from HTC Support without touching a comma.
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I also would like to believe in that we will get 2.1 instead of 2.0. But I pasted the response from HTC Support without touching a comma.
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HTC CSRs are notoriously ill-informed most of the time.
2.1 is still Eclair - it's just got some bug fixes in it. Lox-Dev and Benhaams ROM is based on a leaked HTC build of 2.1, so it is clear that HTC are working on 2.1 for the Hero.
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I hope you are right.
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HTC CSRs are notoriously ill-informed most of the time.
2.1 is still Eclair - it's just got some bug fixes in it. Lox-Dev and Benhaams ROM is based on a leaked HTC build of 2.1, so it is clear that HTC are working on 2.1 for the Hero.
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even if they don't release it, i am optimistic that the great devs here & on xda will make the advantages of 2.1 available for a hero rom... whatever they are exactly, somebody has a changelog of android at hand?
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@kouray: The phone's been out for less than a year. This won't be the last update.
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Hope so, I used to be on samsung phones so I don't know anything about updates
But I still think HTC will stop updates on hero someday soon to sell their 2nd generation android phones..
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Hope so, I used to be on samsung phones so I don't know anything about updates
But I still think HTC will stop updates on hero someday soon to sell their 2nd generation android phones..
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You're probably right... but hopefully that won't happen till Android out-grows the Hero hardware.
I sent a support request asking about the release of 2.x. They answered me that it was coming "in the middle of the year".
In the mean time I am really enjoing LoxDev's KaguDroid. I like it so much that I don't think I will ever go back to Sense. KaguDroid is the only Custom ROM that has stayed on my Hero for more than two days.
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Fools - I, very kindly, addressed this entire issue for you - I even made some suggestions as to how to live in the 'real' ****ing world - you ****s will never learn - as for the grandiose bombastic solipsist who labells himself craig0r (i'm pressuming the use othe zero in the 'handle' is some kind of 'in' nerd gag - hilarious) this true **** will never learn and merely infects all around him with his funny as cancer 'laughs' and incredible insights
Poor Poor Poor boys - ah well !!
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I have enjoyed my world tour to bypass 'security' - mainly visited the states but also a good troll through Europe with an emphasis on the Netherlands - as for what has gone on here the two fools labelled craig0r (see previous post for sentiment on the label) and Liamhere - also know as cowardly oberfuhrercnut no 1 - what can I say that I already haven't ? How's about an example to illustrate what I'm crapping on about:
The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - Be it book, Series or Film nothing changes - what doesn't change I hear you ask - well, the gobsmackingly consistent way it is as funny as a 3 year old having been run over - yet some people, for reasons unknown - see it as hilarious. This sums up these two fools - in the 'real ' world - nazi overzealous small men that keep interfering are detested (Liamhere) and self-congratulatory, pedantic humourless solipsists who have a vastly overinflated sense of their own self-worth / self importance and merely cling at straws (crai0r) - ****s like these are detested. I don't get it - I see plenty of people here who are good lads and lasses with some intellect and wit - yet ****s like these are defended - boo hoo - Someone illuminate me - note to craig0r - not you you **** - as I've made pretty ****ing clear I'm not remotely interested in either you, the **** labelled Liamhere or the 'Phantom' admin that keeps booting me - only for me to re-emerge - I'm not going away so ****in face up to it
Denounce these fools and allow free speech, intellect and Humour reign supreme on what is, IMHO (for the nerds that last acronym) and excellent site (note the cloying sycophancy of the last statement) - Au revoir for now, your humble servant
Simon xx
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calm down bro. nothing to get personal in internet forums.
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calm down bro. nothing to get personal in internet forums.
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Please don't feed trolls.
However, I expect from any company producing so called "up-to-date" products, like smartphones, that they update their products for some time (at least one year) quickly, because their customers bought those products, to have a modern, state of the art thing. In the case of the Hero that's not the case, since we are waiting for an update since two or three months.
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However, I expect from any company producing so called "up-to-date" products, like smartphones, that they update their products for some time (at least one year) quickly, because their customers bought those products, to have a modern, state of the art thing. In the case of the Hero that's not the case, since we are waiting for an update since two or three months.
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dude, you really don't know bout technology stuff like this is obsolete when it's released, and they start developing again. it's not easy to re-write software to suit something different... be patient
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However, I expect from any company producing so called "up-to-date" products, like smartphones, that they update their products for some time (at least one year) quickly, because their customers bought those products, to have a modern, state of the art thing. In the case of the Hero that's not the case, since we are waiting for an update since two or three months.
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http://www.itechnews.net/2009/12/08/htc-2010-android-lineup-leaked/
with all the htc devices coming up in 2010, especially the bravo and the htc legend ( supposedly the succesor to hero) i dont think the htc hero will get any updates after the promised eclair one.
I bought the Hero when it was released in the UK. people said "ooh, watch out, HTC won't support that". I laughed, "HTC are fantastic" etc etc.
Unfortunately it turns out they were actually right as I'm still stuck at 1.5 officially. Options are there thanks to devs here but it's still garbage that the hero has been left in favour of pushing out the new phones instead. I've had a few tweets at HTC on twitter, they've announced updates twice so far which have subsequently been canned. Meanwhile i'm stuck with the old marketplace and unable to use any apps that require 1.6.... bollocks is what it is.
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I sent a support request asking about the release of 2.x. They answered me that it was coming "in the middle of the year".
In the mean time I am really enjoing LoxDev's KaguDroid. I like it so much that I don't think I will ever go back to Sense. KaguDroid is the only Custom ROM that has stayed on my Hero for more than two days.
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what's so good about it? anything missing/broken? edit: researched, looks to be incomplete and full of issues. guess i'll be waiting until someone gets a stable 2.+ for the HERO out :/
You're not really stuck, if you can get rid of sense you already can install some 2.0 roms (like kagudroid). The patience is required only for espresso..
dilema said:
dude, you really don't know bout technology stuff like this is obsolete when it's released, and they start developing again. it's not easy to re-write software to suit something different... be patient
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i guess i know more than you, dude. whether it's - in your words - "easy" to update or not, that's not the point. the problem on their site is, that they do not invest enough resources into updating the phone.
of course it's only my expectation, but as you can see on these and many other forums, blog et cetera, many people are unsatisfied with the current situation. and all these people's are customers and when customers are unsatisfied with a company and/or their products/support they may change the company in future. that is what really matters.
New Response From [ Pete (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Hi Hywel, thanks for your email.
I understand this may be frustrating, but the 16th was never the release date. there were some 'leaks' on the internet, but those were incorrect, It was never planned for today at all.
The update will be available for everyone from the end of the month as planned. it will be phased out over a week or so to spread out the download demand, but it was certainly never going to appear today.
Best regards,
Pete W
HTC
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Inquiry Description
Hi Where is the hero 2.1 upgrade for me to download?? It’s the 16th of April the day the upgrade is scheduled for release. If it’s not released today then when? If this is so then I can’t believe this delay as its been promised again and again !!!!!
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2010/04/16 09:54
They never said that ROM 2.1 will be released on 16th. I don't know where you get that.
1st they said they will release 2.1 ROM upgrades in March. When March came they said that due to some technical issues we have to wait till mid April for release.
So now it is mid April and some tech guy says it will be released at the end of the month. Guess what, at the end of month they will say that it will be released in mid May.
Did you get the game rules now ? They want as to buy their new Incredible phone!
The 16th was on a schedule that was leaked a moth or so ago.
But it should never have been believed anyway.
Lennyuk said:
The 16th was on a schedule that was leaked a moth or so ago.
But it should never have been believed anyway.
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mainly because of... where did that "leak" come from? i mean it is as easy as this:
leaked from HTC Customer Care:
Release Date of HTC Hero Android 2.1 Upgrade: 17. April 2010
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see? it is not gonna happen tomorrow because i claim it. as long as it isn't a *ruu*.exe file i don't believe anything anymore...
edit: lol, now wait for the five threads that will be created quoting the above
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luvgirl12345 said:
Hey guys yo no wat?? 2.1 update iz supozed to be relesed tomorow!!! OMFG im so hapy xD...
lol that was fun.
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Nice misleading thread title bro.
I wonder if I'm the only one getting sick and tired of reading these threads about official 2.1...
twmshwn said:
Hi Where is the hero 2.1 upgrade for me to download?? It’s the 16th of April the day the upgrade is scheduled for release. If it’s not released today then when? If this is so then I can’t believe this delay as its been promised again and again !!!!!
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I think you didn't put enough exclamation marks in your original enquiry for them to take you seriously. And if I were you, I'd sue that guy who promised you update on April 16th again and again. Uh wait. Nobody promised that. Nevermind then.
Imagine having to man the email response section at HTC for the Hero with all the plums emailing you asking every 10 mins when the 2.1 update will be out!
I wonder how high the internal window jumper rate is... or forced handset in throat related deaths in the HTC office..
I also emailed them and they said the android 2.1 updates will be coming out starting at the end of april including for your HTC hero
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Did you get the game rules now ? They want as to buy their new Incredible phone!
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I don't buy that as it makes little sense. It would hardly increase sales figures for the new devices at all. Most cellphone owners are locked into a contract which means if they want to upgrade before it's renewal time they have two choices.....wait, or pay over the odds to do so.....almost everyone (except die hard early adopters who are an extremely small percentage of owners) chooses the first option.
Then you have the fact that the newer handsets have better hardware and software, and all the ROM upgrades in the world won't change the hardware, so who in their right mind is going to choose an older phone knowing they'll have to mess about and upgrade it when they can just go get the shiny new model for free on another contract?
For all we (I) know, the delays could be due to more tweaks needed to make the ROM run at an acceptable level on handsets that have an inferior hardware spec than those that it was originally designed for.
the delays are mostly due because the htc servers couldnt possibly support all desire, hero and legend updates at the same time, thats why they are rolling ou the updates slowly, starting with the desire network providers, then the legend probably and finally the hero
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I don't buy that as it makes little sense. It would hardly increase sales figures for the new devices at all. Most cellphone owners are locked into a contract which means if they want to upgrade before it's renewal time they have two choices.....wait, or pay over the odds to do so.....almost everyone (except die hard early adopters who are an extremely small percentage of owners) chooses the first option.
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I know this is not true as I and many of my friends are not on contracts (actually can only think of 1 who is) and prefer to buy outright as to upgrade as we see fit, and change service provider too. But I do agree with your point, it would not be a way to increase sales, more likely just internal bureaucracy is the cause for the set back.
Seriously people, there's a little thing called patience. My mother always told me that good things come to those who wait.
Lets not kid ourselves on the 7.8 update folks, as its not going to offer anything more than resizing the tiles.
Now that we have been abandoned, we should demand that HTC/microsoft release the source and unlock the bootloaders so we can flash an OS of our choosing.
I believe that ICS would run smoothly on our radars. If it could be done with HD2, it can be done with the radar.
What do you folks think?
Does ics run smoothly on hd2?
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From what I get on their site, they have several ics roms that are working well. Having a choice is always nice.
I support the OP !!
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I support the OP !!
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i'm sorry for the offtopic, but what that |OP| stands for?
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i'm sorry for the offtopic, but what that |OP| stands for?
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OP means 'original poster' So here it means i support this guy "ibnturab" as he is the OP
Well, we already have a EOL device at the 6 month Mark, give or take. Microsoft said they didn't want fragmentation like android, but here it comes already. My radar is put back in the box and I'm back to android for functionality. My radar is the LAST WP product I will buy. Look at the poor bastards who jumped on the Lumia 900 just a couple months ago. I'm sorry but Microsoft had to know that all these new devices wouldn't run WP8, but they decided to snow ball their consumers instead of being open and honest.
Now Nokia has all these phones they built that I'm sure people won't buy now with the info just released. Nokia is already hanging by a thread.
End of rant....
My time is now done in Windows phone forums. Good luck guys.
Sent from my AOKP'ed Samsung GS2 with Eugene's kernel
@awrnsmn, I totally agree with you. I'm seriously considering selling it. Its shame thought, I love the hardware, and the battery is the best I've seen yet in a smartphone. And the dedicated camera button is superb. But, in the end, we all want functionality so I'm likely gonna list this on ebay.
I'm considering the HTC amaze but I've read mixed things on battery. I'm also looking into the ATrix 2.
android on htc radar
I guess we have to wait and see if there is anybody clever enough to get ics running on a radar. I guess i will give it a try when its there. Not because i need it, but because it can
I know I said my time was done here but.....well anyway. What bothers me the most about all of this is Microsoft was really on to something with WP, it could of been a fantastic os to rival the big 2, but with the decisions their making they're killing already......sad because I USED to like where they were going with it.
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IMHO, after my contact is up I will be switching over to Android. *The next Nexus preferably* unless MS could come with something that will make me want to get WP8. Jelly Bean and Operation Butter literally kill my love for WP7.5. :crying: