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Have had my T-Bolt for about a month now and just rooted it yesterday! Loving it even more now! I decided to root because I was one of the lucky people that got the update a couple weeks ago and have been having random reboots ever since. I was hoping a different ROM might help with that.
I came from a D1 that I had rooted about a month after it first came out, so I know the basics of using Clockwork.
I put Das BAMF 1.6.3 on yesterday and it seems to be working good. Problem I am having is that I am still getting some random reboots. Not sure if it has to do with the radio installed on the phone or something with the kernal?
It isn't happening all the time. I noticed one last night and one this morning. Suggestions?
Which kernel & radio are you using?
I had the same problem had to switch to a different kernal. It was getting a little to warm causing the phone to reboot. Most noticeably when I used the navigation.
Sorry it took a while for me to respond. Been pretty busy.
After the reboot yesterday, I put a new kernel on there cause I say someone tried that when they got reboots and it fixed the problem.
Here is what I put on, the lean kernel, extremely undervolted - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021404
It seems to be running good. No reboots since I put it on. But then this afternoon I got one. I wasn't doing anything crazy on my phone but it just rebooted out of nowhere. I was on 3G if that matters...???
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Had one random reboot today. Can't figure out what is doing it. This time I was in the middle of typing a text while on WiFi.
If you are using extremely undervolted try switching to normal. The extremely undervolted setting is also overclocked and may not get enough juice to run properly. see if running normal for a while also has you rebooting.
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Had one random reboot today. Can't figure out what is doing it. This time I was in the middle of typing a text while on WiFi.
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I like the BAMF Tom's, but the CM7 alpha for the Tbolt is stable and awesome... no wireless tether yet, but I'm sure it is on the way!
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I had random reboot problems after I flashed to the new radio. I switched back to the original radio and have not had a problem at all with bamf 1.6.3 or 1.7.
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I put the .7cdma and .6lte on and it solved my reboots. Before that I got random reboots and even a couple times where it just shut off. There is a radio thread in the dev section with all the combinations. Been on this radio for weeks and no reboots.
1.6.3 and 1.7bamf not o/c
OK.....need a little help with flashing a new radio....
See, I came form the origional Droid, which was super easy when switching ROMS. Download the ROM you want, throw the zip on the SD, boot into recovery, flash your ROM, good to go!
Seems a little more complicated with the Thunderbolt, so I'm still getting a little use to it.
I went to the post that has all the different radios, but I'm still not exactly sure on how to flash one. Can anyone explain???
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OK.....need a little help with flashing a new radio....
See, I came form the origional Droid, which was super easy when switching ROMS. Download the ROM you want, throw the zip on the SD, boot into recovery, flash your ROM, good to go!
Seems a little more complicated with the Thunderbolt, so I'm still getting a little use to it.
I went to the post that has all the different radios, but I'm still not exactly sure on how to flash one. Can anyone explain???
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Pretty easy actually. Just download the image that you want to use. Make sure it is at the root of your sd card. Boot your phone into Hboot and it will try and load the file automatically at that point.
Tell the phone it's ok to install. Once you have it installed, don't forget to delete the image file from your root or at least rename it. Otherwise if you go back into hboot, it's going to try and install the image again.
Hope that helps.
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Pretty easy actually. Just download the image that you want to use. Make sure it is at the root of your sd card. Boot your phone into Hboot and it will try and load the file automatically at that point.
Tell the phone it's ok to install. Once you have it installed, don't forget to delete the image file from your root or at least rename it. Otherwise if you go back into hboot, it's going to try and install the image again.
Hope that helps.
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How do you get into Hboot?
I'm running Das BAMF 1.7 Remix and I get a "bootloader" option under the restart. Is that the same thing??
Couple of ways.
If your rom supports it. You can hold the power button down and pick restart and then pick bootloader.
or if your phone is powered down, just hold the volume down key while holding down the power key and that should get you to the bootloader.
Edit: Make sure that your image is named PG05IMG at the root of your sd card.
It's the LTE radio causing reboots, so from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045081 select either the second or fourth option. Any combo that has the 1.12.605.6 LTE radio. Also don't forget to rename it PG05img.zip and put it on the root of your sd card.
If your in hboot and it doesn't recognize the file, make sure it's not named PG05img.zip.zip, changing the name in windows will cause that to happen.
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It's the LTE radio causing reboots, so from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045081 select either the second or fourth option. Any combo that has the 1.12.605.6 LTE radio. Also don't forget to rename it PG05img.zip and put it on the root of your sd card.
If your in hboot and it doesn't recognize the file, make sure it's not named PG05img.zip.zip, changing the name in windows will cause that to happen.
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Thanks Dixon.
I was one of the lucky few that was getting quite a few reboots before I was rooted when Verizon sent out the update. Is it the LTE radio the cause for sure? I know there was a lot of speculation on what was the actual cause, but then I rooted so I stopped following the problem.
Does it matter that I have my LTE turned off all the time? I don't live in an LTE area so I never have it on, yet I still get 1 or 2 random reboots a day. Still better than the 6-8 I was getting when I wasn't rooted!
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Thanks Dixon.
I was one of the lucky few that was getting quite a few reboots before I was rooted when Verizon sent out the update. Is it the LTE radio the cause for sure? I know there was a lot of speculation on what was the actual cause, but then I rooted so I stopped following the problem.
Does it matter that I have my LTE turned off all the time? I don't live in an LTE area so I never have it on, yet I still get 1 or 2 random reboots a day. Still better than the 6-8 I was getting when I wasn't rooted!
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I don't know if anyone can say for certain, but many people(Myself included) experienced reboots after switching to the updated .7 radios. After switching back to the .6 LTE radio, I haven't had a single reboot in weeks, and many others have had the same results. Whether it is the cause or not, switching seems to solve the problem. If it doesn't, then chances are something else is causing them on your phone, but you won't know until you try.
I usually have LTE turned off as well, and I know at least a couple of my reboots happened while it was turned off. Whatever the cause, it doesn't seem to be related to the use of the radio. Just having the .7 version loaded seems to be enough.
Should I make a Nandroid backup before I flash a new radio? Or would that not back anything up as far as the radio goes?
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Should I make a Nandroid backup before I flash a new radio? Or would that not back anything up as far as the radio goes?
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I would always make sure you have a recent Nandroid backup before flashing anything. It won't back up the radio itself, but you never know what else could go wrong.
OK, last question....hopefully!!
There was just a new radio that was released. Looks like it is a new Gingerbread radio. Now I'm thinking about just throwing a gingerbread ROM and do everything once.
Question is....if I switch from a Froyo ROM to a GB ROM, in what order do I flash the ROM/Radio??
1) Backup, Wipe data/cache, flash ROM, boot into HBOOT, then flash the new radio?
or
2) Backup, boot into HBOOT, flash new radio, boot into recovery, wipe, flash ROM?
Doesn't matter. Some will tell you one way, others will tell you the other way.
From what I can tell, either way works. I've done both with the new radio and have had no issues either way.
Happy Flashing!
Ok, I have watched this video on YouTube (How to root the HTC thunderbolt, setting up ADB-step 1 & How to root the HTC thunderbolt- version 2.5) and followed these instruction http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...otloader/#rooting-the-thunderbolt-version-2-5
and I think I'm going to give it a try. Do you guys have any issues with those instructions or any advice?
Ok, I just finished and I am rooted. Now, what rom should I try first??? Do I update my radio to the MR2.5 and if so how?
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Go to the development section and just scroll through the list, or search, and you'll find the leaked MR2.5 radio. Directions on how to flash should be in the thread, but if you don't find, just rename the radio as PG05IMG.zip and place it on the root of the sdcard (aka, not in any folders in the sdcard). Power off the phone, then power on in hboot by pressing the volume down and power button at the same time. The phone will look for the .zip file automatically and get the radio installed (it'll go through a series of checks so don't be alarmed).
Be aware that the MR2 and 2.5 radios only work on GB and SOME froyo roms. Just read the OP for each rom and see what radio they say to use and you shouldn't have problems. As for picking a rom, each person will tell you something different. Just check out the screenshots, read a little bit about each, and just try them out til you find the one you love
Good luck and congrats on rooting.
dbow32 said:
Ok, I just finished and I am rooted. Now, what rom should I try first??? Do I update my radio to the MR2.5 and if so how?
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Step 1 would be read. A lot. There's some nice ROMs out there, but I've yet to try the perfect one so far. As for the radio, there's a lot of them out there and no ROM will play well with all of them. Some radios might even brick your phone. The MR2.5 only works with some gingerbread ROMs and one froyo ROM. MR2.0 works with most gingerbread ROMs, and the very latest RUU of froyo. The radio in RUU base 605.7 works with all ROMs I'm aware of up to the 605.7RUU. But, its not stable and will cause random restarts. All gingerbread ROMs are built on a very flawed alpha leak. If stability and reliability are qualities you value highly, avoid them. At this point, solid and reliable looks like the MR2 radio and a ROM based on the most recent froyo RUU. AOSP ROMs like cm7 are still in alpha builds at this point.
The radio is easy to flash. Just figure out which one you'll need for the ROM you want. Have any questions, just hit me up. I like to get my hands dirty with this stuff.
download the new mr2 radio found in the development section. then download das bamf 2.1 gingerRemix.
to do the radio, download and copy and rename it PG05IMG.ZIP (Make sure your computer isn't set to hide the .zip otherwise you will have a file named PG05IMG.zip.zip and it wont corrispond), then put it into your sd card. connect phone into disk drive and your sd folder will open. copy and paste into the root. at this time you can also download the 2.1 gingermix and copy that into your root also. now you need to hold down power button and select restart, then bootloader. it will open and ask if you wwant to update. press power button for yes, up and down volume button for up and down. select update and let it process. then reboot. radio shoulg be good to go. now for the remix gingerbread rom...open rom manager and select reboot into recovery. again use up and down volume and power button:
1Wipe Data/Factory Reset
2Mounts and partitions -> format system (probably unnecessary, but born of an abundance of caution)
3Advanced -> wipe dalvik cache (also probably unnecessary)
4Install zip from SD card -> select rom
5Reboot
(these are the steps I take and were given to me from the mentor I have who helps me when I stop breathing for hours cuz I think I have just bricked my phone. -dont want to take credit for his advice to me)
before doing a new rom, you always want to backup. and more often then not, you will want to do a full wipe of data and factory reset which is found from your Rom manager under the "reboot into recovery"
I'm sure if I missed a step in there someone will point it out, but I think I have it pretty much in line for ya. hopefully
before I rooted I was on the MR2.0 RUU and I had no problems or reboots. I really want a senseless (stock) ROM that is just bare bones. I'm reading through all the different ROMS but I just don't know which one to try. I'm afraid of doing the wrong one with the wrong radio. the one I'm considering right now is the DAS BAMF 1.7. What do you think about that one? Also, if and when the official OTA GB comes out, will I receive it?
I was on 1.7 until gingerbread came out. I love GB and won't be looking back anytime soon
i just tried to get the MR2.0 radio and the link is not working. any ideas?
Server might be busy. Do a Google search for the new mr2 radio and you should have a couple different options to download from.
Okay, I apologize if this thread is posted somewhere else on here, but this is my problem. I have a HTC Thunderbolt, rooted with the new update (1.70.605.0) prevent the frequent reboots. But now that I’ve put the update on there, if I flash a custom rom it automatically removes the update, putting me back with the rebooting issues again. So, to get to the point, is there a way to flash a custom rom but yet keep the new update?
You have to flash a ROM based on that update. Look in the descriptions of the ROM's to find out if it is or not.
I've been looking almost everywhere, and I don't think there's a rom that fits those specs out.
The very action of flashing a ROM is to replace the current one. To give some clarity: there are 3 pieces of software that the phone requires. A radio, hboot, and an OS; usually called a ROM. Your update included a radio which was the reason for the reboots. Any ROM that will work with That radio should yield performance equal to or better than what you have.
I'm sorry I'm kinda new to this all that's why I seem kinda lost. But basically all I need to do, is put the root in, den flash the radio that came with the update?
I'm sorry i worded that all wrong. The only thing that the rom with the update comes with is, busybox and deodexed. It also comes with the 1.70.605.0 radio. Say if i flashed the thunderbolt rom in my phone. After installing it, will it do away with that radio and update or will it remain in there. If not, if i flashed the updated radio with the thunderbolt rom will it pretty much be the same as the update and keep me from having unwanted reboots?
Radios are not included with a ROM. Only the kernel and the ROM change when you flash a ROM.
ROM's are flashed in recovery, Radio's are flashed from the root of your SD card using HBOOT. You get to hboot by powering off your phone, or just do a battery pull, then hold the Volume down button while powering on the phone.
Just make sure that the radio can be used on the ROM. The original post of any ROM thread will list the recommend radio(s) to use.
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Okay, thanks for all the help. Last question, after the putting a rom in with the ota update in. I flashed to another rom, but once i did that the ota update was no longer there, so i tried the update while running the custom rom and it wouldnt go through leaving me withe the old ota. is there a way to still put the update on after flashing?
My phone is currently rooted and running the stock rom. I have not accepted the new update and it keeps getting pushed to my phone. It actually just started downloading on its own and I pulled the battery before it even said 1% (i know its not a great idea) everything is fine with the phone but i need considerations on which rom and/or radio to flash so it will stop being pushed to my phone? I would like to stick with froyo sense rom for the time being..
My current baseband is:1.16.00.0223r
software number: 1.12.605.6
kernel verison: 2.6.32.21gb05544a [email protected] #1
Thanks.
Go to the development section and check out what is there.
The posts will have info about the rom, which version it is, etc...Gingerbread roms are the most popular right now but there are still some good froyo roms you might just gave to look a little bit.
Once you decide on a rom download it, put it on your phone, reboot into clockwork recovery, do a full wipe, and then flash the rom by selecting install zip from sdcard.
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Why not just flash the rooted OTA radio that way u have the new update and be rooted
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^ Do you have a link to the new radio?
I just tried to flash some froyo roms and it aborts everytime thru rom manager. and when i go into recovery using the volume down button it does not let me scroll down to select anything, it immediately begins loading the radio...
Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
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Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
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Well you shouldn't panic. Which radio did you flash? I would flash the MR2 one from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154010 . If that doesn't work, I would download the rom directly from Synergy here http://androidfilehost.com/XxXViRuSXxX/roms/synergy/thunderbolt/
From recovery, wipe everything manually (Wipe data/cache/dalvik) than flash the file from where it is on your SD card. If you need specific instructions feel free to ask.
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Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
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Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
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Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
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Sure hope he's just confused...
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Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
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Lol I saw that, I decided not to say anything, I guess you have the sharper tongue than me
Ya pretty scary. I'm hoping he meant he rooted his phone and when he said unrooted, he meant "stock" froyo build on his phone.
Sounds like he is able to boot up, just not get any signal.
I'm guessing he is not too skilled in the ways of Android yet.
Lol just found something interesting. Synergy isn't even on rom manager? I was checking to see if the version ofcsynergy he was using was a previous froyo build, and I can't even find it on rom manager
He probably meant that he used Rom Manager to load the rom rather than using recovery.
haha weird
OK, so I was tired when I wrote my initial post, and I probably didn't make a whole lot of sense. Let me be a bit clearer.
For reference, no, I'm "not too skilled in the ways of Android yet". I've been living with Froyo, anxiously awaiting Gingerbread, and then got fed up and read about all the benefits that come with rooting. Now that an easier method has presented itself - the Revolutionary method, as opposed to opening a command prompt and doing the adb stuff, which I can do - I rooted a friend's phone - but decided to not take the plunge myself - I decided to go ahead and give GB a shot.
So let me break down what happened:
- My phone was unrooted previously, running the same software it came with. I'd done a few OTA updates that Verizon provided but had never gone into my phone. That's why I called it "stock", sorry if that terminology confused people. I just meant it was the OS that came on my phone - Android 2.2 w/ HTC Sense and all that jazz.
- I ran the Revolutionary method posted in the "Thunderbolt Android Development" forum. Worked fine. Ran Recovery and installed Superuser permissions as the documentation said. Worked great. Have a phone where if HBOOT launches, it says -Revolutionary- at the top, and it's got -S OFF. My phone technically is rooted.
- The Synergy mod was also posted in the "TB Android Development" forum. I downloaded that and installed it using ROM Manager (Install ROM from SD). Worked fine ... but then had no signal. Every other aspect of the phone seemed to be working. My radio just wasn't working.
- Downloaded an updated radio from the TB Android Dev. forum, ran that, it said it was updating the radio. Rebooted the phone after the update ... still no signal.
I "solved" this problem by flashing the leaked HTC/TB Gingerbread build, the latest one that was like 400 MB, and when I booted my phone up again I had Gingerbread on my phone with HTC Sense 2.1, and I had signal. So I'm living right now with a fully working phone, but I wanted to dip my foot into custom ROMs. So now I have a backup method just in case the radio thing doesn't work again, but what can I do to install a custom ROM and ensure that I get signal?
Thanks for the response, xebryus - and to everyone else, sorry I was a little confusing. Everybody starts from somewhere, right?
-BT7
Download the GB ROM you want, boot into clockwork (please don't install VIA ROM Manager). In clockwork using you Volume keys to move and the Home button to select....
Select Wipe Data/Factory Reset
Select Wipe Cache
Select Advanced
Select Wipe Dalvik
Select Go Back
Select Mounts and Storage
Select Format /system
Select Go Back Until you are at the first screen
Select Install from SD Card
Select Choose ZIP
Go to the folder where you downloaded the ROM
Select ROM
Select Yes.
When it is done Reboot.
Enjoy!
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Hey, at least you didn't brick your phone, so kudos for you for getting that far.
As others have stated there are basically two kinds of radio versions out there. One that work with Froyo builds and ones that work with GB builds.
So depending on the rom you are loading, you just have to make sure you have the right radio to match the rom(the rom thread should tell you what radio it requires). From what you were saying, it sounded like you just had the wrong radio.
Anyways, couple of things you want to make sure you do. Any check to make sure the checksum is correct on the radio (so that it's not corrupt) otherwise you could have some major issues. Also, once you flash the radio and you get your phone back up, make sure to either rename or delete the PG05img file from your SD root, otherwise, again a major hassle.
Check out the noob thread at the top of this forum also. It has great info there that will help you on your journey.
Good Luck.
I have always felt more in control flashing from recovery or hboot but I'm curious why no rom manager?
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RevosFTS said:
I have always felt more in control flashing from recovery or hboot but I'm curious why no rom manager?
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When the TB first came out, it seemed that people were having issues with using rom manager to flash roms (alot of force closes, things in general not working correctly). So many experienced people said to use recovery rather than rom manager to flash anything on the TB.
I guess that idea just kinda stuck after that.
Ok thanks. I will still use recovery anyhow I am more used to it. Plus I'm kinda old school I love adb haha
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I have downloaded Synergy Rom and have no problems except that I am not able to get the radio to flash. I am on verizon and chose the MR3.5 radio. I did a battery pull and then pressed the power and volume down button to enter HBoot but I do not have an option to Upgrade. What am I doing wrong any help is appreciated. I need help quick, thanks!!!
1more thing when i am in the HBoot window my only options are Fastboot, Recovery, Factory Reset, Simlock, Hboot USB, System Info, Image Crc..... it says radio is 1.16.00.0402w.
Does this mean the radio was already upgraded. Why can I not get a signal then?
Did you rename the .zip and have it on the root of your SD card?
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HarlyFan said:
1more thing when i am in the HBoot window my only options are Fastboot, Recovery, Factory Reset, Simlock, Hboot USB, System Info, Image Crc..... it says radio is 1.16.00.0402w.
Does this mean the radio was already upgraded. Why can I not get a signal then?
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Nope..402w is still MR1. Sounds like you are already in bootloader so at this point if it isn't updating then more than likely the file is named incorrectly as stated above.
Radios HAVE to be named PG05IMG.zip (3rd character is a ZERO, not the letter "O"). It HAS to be in the root folder of your SD card. Now, turn the phone OFF.
Next, hold down the VOL-DOWN button. Keep it held down. Is it still held down ? If so, push and hold down the POWER button. When the screen turns on, you can release both. This menu will automatically look for 3 or 4 files with certain names. One of the names (files) it looks for is .... PG05IMG.zip. When/if it finds it, it will check it and ask you if you want to load it. Tell it to load it and then leave your phone alone. It will update it and reboot like normal (if successful).