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So I'm asking here.
Does anyone have phone problems with the GB radio leak/any of the available roms?
I try to place a phone call and get an instant force close along with loss of service for about 30 seconds. I've had this on both das bamf's test build and the debloat rom out there.
I can't find any help or anyone with the same problem. I've wiped and flashed over and over and can't get it to go away.
If no one can help can someone point me in the direction of the most recent radio?
I want to flash that and then load up a froyo backup.
I flashed the GB leak yesterday and I got force closes after ending every phone call and while sending text messages. Its an early release. Still plenty of bugs to be worked out. So no.. your not alone.
restore a backup manually in cwr, download an older radio from the obligatory radio thread (you can mount your sd in cwr) then adb reboot fastboot??? i think... Away you go.
there is a few big threads on this.
i too am jonesin for 2.3, but am waiting for CM7 nightlies, or BAMF. which ever happens first.
You could try the ADB-less way... This is how I flashed GingerJane and it's working.. I get occasional FC's on the phone and the camera is qwirky but as stated above it's an early release.
Flash rom in CWR then batt pull and boot to hboot by holding down power and volume down then install radio.
That's how I did do it. Could anyone point me to the latest radio? At this point I'm just trying to get the latest Froyo radio and then load up one of my backups.
Edit. Sorry I see you found the radio thread. Use .7 combo, first one in the OP if you want latest.
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Download the radio and ROM you want then... You can just rename the radio properly, boot into hboot and flash it. Then reboot, you will have no service, reboot into Clockwork/Wipe Everything/Flash whatever ROM you want.
No need for adb.
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now realize that I am totally clueless.
Over a month ago somebody on this board was kind enough to walk me through rooting my phone (I did the manual ADB for dummies and did learn about that part of the programming since I rooted my phone manually. I installed DAS Bamf 1.5 remix, new radio, kernel, etc.... Since then I have been tied up with family emergencies and other priorities and haven't had the time to dedicate to the phone. Now I am ready to update the software and want to make sure that I am doing this correctly. Please note that the original rooting process was completely overwhelming and simply a blurr....
1) Using Rom Manager Premium (Clockwork Mod) version3.1.0.2:
Reboot into Recovery Mode
Backup and Restore
Backup
Reboot system now
2) Titanium Backup Pro
Backup/Restore
(Not sure what settings I should use in Preferences)... I remember reading that one
should not backup system services. Not sure how ....
Batch
Run Backup of all user apps + system data
Run Batch operation
3) From here I am lost...
I know that I have to:
Save the upgraded ROM, Radio, Kernel files in order to install them.
Not sure which ROM, Radio, Kernel. Since I am a newbie, I am thinking of staying w/ Froyo and DAS Bamf 1.7/1.8 after reading about intermittent problems w/ GB along with the infamous bricking.
Wipe out the cache/Memory
As I write this I realize how lost and confused and concerned that I will screw it up.
Is anybody willing to walk me through this the first time?
I will document it so I don't have to trouble this board again...
Thanks in advance...
Hey man.
Nice to see you want to come back. I just ROMed my phone this morning and am loving the options I get. I loaded up BAMF 1.8. I used this guideline to help me out and it's worked like a charm.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/thunderbolt-rooting-roms-hacks/77350-guide-how-backup-restore-install-roms-thunderbolt.html
If I understand you correctly and you want to upgrade BAMF 1.5 to 1.8, the process is not too hard. First do a batch backup of all data and apps with titanium. Save the new BAMF rom to the root of your sd card. Make sure you check the md5 sum of the rom once copied to the sd card against the md5 sum posted on the download page. You can use a free program like Md5summer (Google it). Then, reboot into recovery through Rom manager. Wipe the cache (not sure if you need to wipe data. I would say don't since you already have a BAMF rom, but it is several versions ago. If you have trouble you can go back and wipe it and reinstall). Then, still in recovery , choose install from zip and navigate to the right file. Let it install, choose reboot, and you are ready to go. If you wiped data, restore with titanium.
With that said, you are taking a big risk doing this without understanding it. You could end up with a nonfunctional device if you are not careful. Please take the time to read up on this stuff! I'm not responsible if something goes wrong!
If this was helpful please hit thanks!
Update: Don't worry about the radio or kernel for now. Should work fine with what you have. Read up on the advantages of flashing lights radio/kernel before you decide to change.
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Thanks for the link. That is very helpful.
Here is what I am running:
Android 2.2.1
Baseband 1.16.00.0223r
Kernel 2.6.32.21 bamf 4.42-g64d4fb1-dirty by adrynalyne
Build 1.13.605.7_Das_BAMF_1.5-remix
Software 1.13.605.7
If I am too conservative to try GB, what is the best Froyo configuration for battery life, etc....?
Other than upgrading Das Bamf 1.5 to 1.8 (assuming you agree), should I upgrade the Kernel or Radio?
Thanks again.
tarigand said:
Hey man.
Nice to see you want to come back. I just ROMed my phone this morning and am loving the options I get. I loaded up BAMF 1.8. I used this guideline to help me out and it's worked like a charm.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/thunderbolt-rooting-roms-hacks/77350-guide-how-backup-restore-install-roms-thunderbolt.html
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I haven't updated my radio since DasBAMFRemix 1.3. I am a light user and can usually get 8 hours of battery life. Chargers are cheap. I have 3 one at the office one in the car and one at home. Any way I usually only wipe everything but data when upgrading from a previously DasBAMF release. I believe the DasBAMF releases include a kernel(which gets updated, but not every release)
If you're taking the plung to flashing a new rom. why not do gingerbread. I had nothing but random reboots on everything i tried with Froyo. I'm using BAMF Gingerremix 2.1 . everything is smooth as silk.
if you go that route, you need ginger radio 2.0 or 2.5 and bamfremix 2.1. flash radio, then flash gingerremix both through CWR.
Good luck!
Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
bandtrumpet7 said:
Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
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Well you shouldn't panic. Which radio did you flash? I would flash the MR2 one from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154010 . If that doesn't work, I would download the rom directly from Synergy here http://androidfilehost.com/XxXViRuSXxX/roms/synergy/thunderbolt/
From recovery, wipe everything manually (Wipe data/cache/dalvik) than flash the file from where it is on your SD card. If you need specific instructions feel free to ask.
bandtrumpet7 said:
Oh, fuuuu...crap.
I may have screwed up here. I rooted my device using Revolutionary, and then using ROM Manager installed the latest Synergy mod on my stock (unrooted Froyo) Thunderbolt. Everything loaded fine, it seemed to be flawless ... but after the update I'm not getting any signal at all. I figured this was a radio issue, so I downloaded the latest radio that was leaked (the 2.11.605 one), put it on my SD card, and flashed that. It said it was "updating" the radio (RADIO_V2), but still no luck. I've tried a few different versions, and although it seems to "flash" and update fine, there's still no signal. Not 1x, 3g, or 4g. Nada. :-\
According to HBOOT, "RADIO" is 1.16.00.0223r, if that helps.
Any ideas on how I can basically undo all this, or have I spectacularly failed at this?
-BT7
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Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
loonatik78 said:
Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
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Sure hope he's just confused...
loonatik78 said:
Am I reading this right???? You said you rooted with Revolutionary.... Then you flashed some Synergy mod with ROM Manager (always a no-no).... onto your STOCK, UNROOTED FROYO Tbolt???? How did we go from rooted with Revolutionary to stock, unrooted Froyo? I'm confused.
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Lol I saw that, I decided not to say anything, I guess you have the sharper tongue than me
Ya pretty scary. I'm hoping he meant he rooted his phone and when he said unrooted, he meant "stock" froyo build on his phone.
Sounds like he is able to boot up, just not get any signal.
I'm guessing he is not too skilled in the ways of Android yet.
Lol just found something interesting. Synergy isn't even on rom manager? I was checking to see if the version ofcsynergy he was using was a previous froyo build, and I can't even find it on rom manager
He probably meant that he used Rom Manager to load the rom rather than using recovery.
haha weird
OK, so I was tired when I wrote my initial post, and I probably didn't make a whole lot of sense. Let me be a bit clearer.
For reference, no, I'm "not too skilled in the ways of Android yet". I've been living with Froyo, anxiously awaiting Gingerbread, and then got fed up and read about all the benefits that come with rooting. Now that an easier method has presented itself - the Revolutionary method, as opposed to opening a command prompt and doing the adb stuff, which I can do - I rooted a friend's phone - but decided to not take the plunge myself - I decided to go ahead and give GB a shot.
So let me break down what happened:
- My phone was unrooted previously, running the same software it came with. I'd done a few OTA updates that Verizon provided but had never gone into my phone. That's why I called it "stock", sorry if that terminology confused people. I just meant it was the OS that came on my phone - Android 2.2 w/ HTC Sense and all that jazz.
- I ran the Revolutionary method posted in the "Thunderbolt Android Development" forum. Worked fine. Ran Recovery and installed Superuser permissions as the documentation said. Worked great. Have a phone where if HBOOT launches, it says -Revolutionary- at the top, and it's got -S OFF. My phone technically is rooted.
- The Synergy mod was also posted in the "TB Android Development" forum. I downloaded that and installed it using ROM Manager (Install ROM from SD). Worked fine ... but then had no signal. Every other aspect of the phone seemed to be working. My radio just wasn't working.
- Downloaded an updated radio from the TB Android Dev. forum, ran that, it said it was updating the radio. Rebooted the phone after the update ... still no signal.
I "solved" this problem by flashing the leaked HTC/TB Gingerbread build, the latest one that was like 400 MB, and when I booted my phone up again I had Gingerbread on my phone with HTC Sense 2.1, and I had signal. So I'm living right now with a fully working phone, but I wanted to dip my foot into custom ROMs. So now I have a backup method just in case the radio thing doesn't work again, but what can I do to install a custom ROM and ensure that I get signal?
Thanks for the response, xebryus - and to everyone else, sorry I was a little confusing. Everybody starts from somewhere, right?
-BT7
Download the GB ROM you want, boot into clockwork (please don't install VIA ROM Manager). In clockwork using you Volume keys to move and the Home button to select....
Select Wipe Data/Factory Reset
Select Wipe Cache
Select Advanced
Select Wipe Dalvik
Select Go Back
Select Mounts and Storage
Select Format /system
Select Go Back Until you are at the first screen
Select Install from SD Card
Select Choose ZIP
Go to the folder where you downloaded the ROM
Select ROM
Select Yes.
When it is done Reboot.
Enjoy!
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Hey, at least you didn't brick your phone, so kudos for you for getting that far.
As others have stated there are basically two kinds of radio versions out there. One that work with Froyo builds and ones that work with GB builds.
So depending on the rom you are loading, you just have to make sure you have the right radio to match the rom(the rom thread should tell you what radio it requires). From what you were saying, it sounded like you just had the wrong radio.
Anyways, couple of things you want to make sure you do. Any check to make sure the checksum is correct on the radio (so that it's not corrupt) otherwise you could have some major issues. Also, once you flash the radio and you get your phone back up, make sure to either rename or delete the PG05img file from your SD root, otherwise, again a major hassle.
Check out the noob thread at the top of this forum also. It has great info there that will help you on your journey.
Good Luck.
I have always felt more in control flashing from recovery or hboot but I'm curious why no rom manager?
Sent from my Tbolt running Das Bamf 3.0...
RevosFTS said:
I have always felt more in control flashing from recovery or hboot but I'm curious why no rom manager?
Sent from my Tbolt running Das Bamf 3.0...
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When the TB first came out, it seemed that people were having issues with using rom manager to flash roms (alot of force closes, things in general not working correctly). So many experienced people said to use recovery rather than rom manager to flash anything on the TB.
I guess that idea just kinda stuck after that.
Ok thanks. I will still use recovery anyhow I am more used to it. Plus I'm kinda old school I love adb haha
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I have downloaded Synergy Rom and have no problems except that I am not able to get the radio to flash. I am on verizon and chose the MR3.5 radio. I did a battery pull and then pressed the power and volume down button to enter HBoot but I do not have an option to Upgrade. What am I doing wrong any help is appreciated. I need help quick, thanks!!!
1more thing when i am in the HBoot window my only options are Fastboot, Recovery, Factory Reset, Simlock, Hboot USB, System Info, Image Crc..... it says radio is 1.16.00.0402w.
Does this mean the radio was already upgraded. Why can I not get a signal then?
Did you rename the .zip and have it on the root of your SD card?
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HarlyFan said:
1more thing when i am in the HBoot window my only options are Fastboot, Recovery, Factory Reset, Simlock, Hboot USB, System Info, Image Crc..... it says radio is 1.16.00.0402w.
Does this mean the radio was already upgraded. Why can I not get a signal then?
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Nope..402w is still MR1. Sounds like you are already in bootloader so at this point if it isn't updating then more than likely the file is named incorrectly as stated above.
Radios HAVE to be named PG05IMG.zip (3rd character is a ZERO, not the letter "O"). It HAS to be in the root folder of your SD card. Now, turn the phone OFF.
Next, hold down the VOL-DOWN button. Keep it held down. Is it still held down ? If so, push and hold down the POWER button. When the screen turns on, you can release both. This menu will automatically look for 3 or 4 files with certain names. One of the names (files) it looks for is .... PG05IMG.zip. When/if it finds it, it will check it and ask you if you want to load it. Tell it to load it and then leave your phone alone. It will update it and reboot like normal (if successful).
Hi all. Thanks for taking the time to look and possibly help me out.
So I've had my thunderbolt since mid April. I rooted it promptly after opening and things were great.
I want to expand out and try CM7. From all i've been reading, i'm completely confused. I'm hoping i can get some pointers on what i need to do. From what i can tell i have to download the CDMA and LTE Radios and then flash them (seperately?)
from gu1dry TB Radios post updated 9/24
I will then have to copy the zip onto the root of the SD card. I will then rename one of them to PG05IMG.zip. i then reboot the phone, holding the Vol- button, go to Hboot and follow the instructions to update. Once the phone reboots, rename the zip to something else and change the other radio to the PG05IMG.zip and repeat.
Next, i have the CM7 download (from slayher, updated 10/2)
which i then copy to the SD card, rename to the PG05IMG.zip and do the flash thing. and then rename.
FInally i have to install the google apps (from the link in slayher's post again) but i'm unsure of how to do that.
If anybody could help me out, i would appreciate it.
thanks.
Your steps for flashing the radios is correct; however, ROMs and the GApps packages are flashed in recovery (clockworkmod recovery, twrp, etc).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220484
As for the radio installation you are correct. One thing different is you don't have to flash them separately. You can flash together unless there is a reason you want to match different cdma with the lte radios.
This is the proper steps for flashing the rom from start to finish.
First time flashing CyanogenMod 7 to the Thunderbolt, or coming from another ROM?
Root the device and install ClockworkMod Recovery. Instructions are available here.
Perform a NANDroid backup of your current ROM.
Format the system, data & cache partitions of your device.
Perform a factory reset.
Flash CyanogenMod.
Optional: Install the Google Apps addon package.
If you are not familiar with the flashing or terms of nandroid continue to read or maybe Google some youtube videos.
Thanks for the help.
I have rooted my phone, but kept the Sense ROM loaded. I have Rom Manager/CWMR (5.0.2.1)
The radios i downloaded came seperately, one for the CDMA, one for LTE. how do i combine them? can i just pull out both zips and rezip as 1 file? then do the install?
druidath said:
Thanks for the help.
I have rooted my phone, but kept the Sense ROM loaded. I have Rom Manager/CWMR (5.0.2.1)
The radios i downloaded came seperately, one for the CDMA, one for LTE. how do i combine them? can i just pull out both zips and rezip as 1 file? then do the install?
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Options:
1) You can flash them separately one after the other
2) You can pull the .img from one of them and put into the other zip
3) You can use this (md5: b1e10920c1f191561fd05f1e9c445482)
btw, it's A Rat
Absolute_Zero said:
Options:
1) You can flash them separately one after the other
2) You can pull the .img from one of them and put into the other zip
3) You can use this (link removed for noob) (md5: b1e10920c1f191561fd05f1e9c445482)
btw, it's A Rat
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Thanks. I'm going to download the single file and use that.
but i'm confused by the "It's A RAT"
druidath said:
Thanks. I'm going to download the single file and use that.
but i'm confused by the "It's A RAT"
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Figured I'd include a link to the combined radio list...
http://teambamf.net/showthread.php/242-Radios
Ok, so Flashed the GB radio (2.11...) But didn't get a signal. So I flashed back to the stock radio and i have signal again.
did i not get a signal because the radio was for GB, and i was still running Froyo?
thanks for the help
druidath said:
Ok, so Flashed the GB radio (2.11...) But didn't get a signal. So I flashed back to the stock radio and i have signal again.
did i not get a signal because the radio was for GB, and i was still running Froyo?
thanks for the help
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Yes. The new radio that you flashed won't work on your current stock rom but should work on the roms you mentioned that you weren't getting a signal on before. As I said, in your case you will need to change the radio to get a signal with the roms you are flashing but it will probably break the current stock rom you are running.
I just wanted to say thank.
I now have CM7 on my TB, along with the apps. I've flashed to the 2.11 radio and things look good so far.
THanks for all the help everyone
Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
Spaded21 said:
Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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You can simply flash a stock rom that has the update & flash the newer stock kernel that goes with it but you wont be able to update the radios. You wont lose any info this way unless something goes wrong.(always backup everything just in case something goes wrong).
As for backup, you will only be able to backup aps & data with titanium backup or some sort of program like that because If you do a nandroid backup and then restore after applying the update, you would be restoring your old rom basically over the new one and lose most update enhancements.
You should just follow the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069 and go S-Off. I know you will have to restore everything because you will wipe your phone when you do this but its only gonna make things easier for you in the future.
Do a nan backup and save it in case you want to use it in the future and go back to what you had. Once you have S-Off, you can flash kernals, radios, & roms and put in any version you want.
Thanks for your response Jrocker,
So it looks like the best way to do this would be to backup my apps with Titanium, get S-off, install a stock ROM with the update, flash the kernel and radio, then restore from Titanium.
Step 1. Make nandroid
Step 2. Backup apps with Titanium, copy backup along with pics and video to PC
Step 3. Get S-off
Step 4. Flash Stock ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095
Step 5. While still in recovery, flash stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149951
Step 6. Flash stock radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155915
Step 7. Restore apps and pics.
Does that look correct? Do I have to worry about flashing a boot.img or modules(don't know what those are)?
Spaded21 said:
Thanks for your response Jrocker,
So it looks like the best way to do this would be to backup my apps with Titanium, get S-off, install a stock ROM with the update, flash the kernel and radio, then restore from Titanium.
Step 1. Make nandroid
Step 2. Backup apps with Titanium, copy backup along with pics and video to PC
Step 3. Get S-off
Step 4. Flash Stock ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095
Step 5. While still in recovery, flash stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149951
Step 6. Flash stock radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155915
Step 7. Restore apps and pics.
Does that look correct? Do I have to worry about flashing a boot.img or modules(don't know what those are)?
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Have you unlocked the bootloader? (this step is usually done in connection with rooting the phone at the htcdev.com website). If you have an ulocked bootloader, then you can flash an alternate recovery (eithe cwr or twrp) and do a nandroid backup.
Then follow the steps to get s-off. Note: the step where you have your data wiped is unlocking the bootloader, not obtaining s-off. If you already have an alternate recovery, and root, then s-off generally will not wipe your phone. But do an nandroid backup in cwr or twrp just in case Although a nandroid won't backup pictures etc.
Once you have s-off, flash the stock (but rooted) rom you linked to in step 4. This step SHOULD flash the stock kernel if the .zip file was prepared properly. If you boot into the rom and have flickering or wifi issues, then you will need to flash the stock 2.04 kernel (in fastboot). You can also verify if the new kernel was installed when the rom is booted by looking at the Settings:About:Software Information:More (baseband, kernel etc). You should see there kernel version 3.4.10. The baseband (radio) should be 1.01.01.0110 once you have updated the radio (see the step below). The kernel file is the boot.img file you were asking about. The modules will already be built into the stock rom.
While in fastboot (not recovery) you can flash the updated radio files (that will make the baseband referred to above be 1.01.01.0110.
The time when you need to worry about flashing a kernel (boot.img) and modules is if you are s-on, or if you are s-off and the zip file was prepared as you were s-on. When you flash a "kernel", it consists of a boot.img file, along with some extraneous files (the module). When you are s-off, these can both be flashed together while in recovery. When you are s-on, the boot.img file must be flashed from fastboot (or else an alternate method using an app like Flash Image GUI). Because until recently, most DNA's were s-on, the kernel developers prepared their files for s-on devices, with instructions for s-on devices.
When you flash a rom that uses a different kernel than the one you are using, if the .zip file is prepared for a s-off device, then there are no additional steps necessary.
You may want to do a factory reset when you flash the updated 2.04 rom. I think it would be wise. As I said earlier, you shouldn't lose your /sdcard partition UNLESS you haven't already unlocked your bootloader. s-off doesn't reset your device.
Wow, all I can say is thank you so much! That was an awesome, detailed answer. It makes so much more sense when someone fully explains everything all at once, instead of me trying to piece everything together myself from various threads.
Yes my bootloader is unlocked. So you are saying once the bootloader is unlocked wiping data won't touch the SD card partition, just as if I had an actual SD card? When I rooted my Thunderbolt and did subsequent factory resets on that, it never touched the SD card. When I rooted my DNA it wiped everything. Either way I will always make backups and copy those to my PC.
I will be trying this later today and I will report back with the results. Seriously, thank you so much.
Spaded21 said:
Wow, all I can say is thank you so much! That was an awesome, detailed answer. It makes so much more sense when someone fully explains everything all at once, instead of me trying to piece everything together myself from various threads.
Yes my bootloader is unlocked. So you are saying once the bootloader is unlocked wiping data won't touch the SD card partition, just as if I had an actual SD card? When I rooted my Thunderbolt and did subsequent factory resets on that, it never touched the SD card. When I rooted my DNA it wiped everything. Either way I will always make backups and copy those to my PC.
I will be trying this later today and I will report back with the results. Seriously, thank you so much.
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I was looking for this exact solution as well. This was before we had s-off. For a while my solution was to freeze a couple apps in TB so the OTA pop up would stop popping up. I think it was HTC DM 1.0.2219251543..... and HtcDm 1.0.221982913.... Looks the same but they are different.
I like stock but I eventually flashed ViperDNA. It looks like stock but you are able to customize the $h!!t out of it. Its an awesome ROM that I highly recommend. Although you might want to wait until he comes out with 1.2 (the new version with the latest firmware) becuase you have to wipe data. Data wiping isn't a big deal if you use TB.
Ether way you go - Stock ROM or ViperDNA - The recommended way to wipe your device is this way:
(I'm using TWRP but CR should be similar, might be in different menus)
Backup everything using TB
Backup Pics and other docs on internal SD card (JUST IN CASE)
Make Nandroid Backup in Recovery
Wipe Menu-> Wipe Dalvik Cache (some like to wipe 3 times others think its just a waste of time)
Wipe Menu-> Wipe Cache (Factory Reset wipes cache but I like to wipe cache anyway just for completeness )
Wipe Menu-> Factory Reset
Wipe Menu-> System
Don't Format Data and Don't wipe Internal Storage. You will loose SD card contents.
Once you install your ROMS, flash your kernals, flash radios...whatever you want to do...You can restore apps and data from TB
As always, follow the ROMS instructions on their page for more information.
Only Restore User Apps and Data
Never restore any system apps in RED. May not be compatible with new ROM
You can however restore system Data that is in Yellow or Green (DATA ONLY)
Thanks devilsaces
Once I get everything updated and get a good nadroid of the newest firmware with all my apps I will definitely give ViperDNA a shot. I tried a few custom ROMs on my Thunderbolt, and while they were great to customize, they weren't always stable. Like I said I use my phone for work all day so I really need something dependable, and so far stock hasn't let me down.
Thanks again everyone, a lot of great info in this thread. Hopefully this will be useful to others as well.
Spaded21 said:
Thanks devilsaces
Once I get everything updated and get a good nadroid of the newest firmware with all my apps I will definitely give ViperDNA a shot. I tried a few custom ROMs on my Thunderbolt, and while they were great to customize, they weren't always stable. Like I said I use my phone for work all day so I really need something dependable, and so far stock hasn't let me down.
Thanks again everyone, a lot of great info in this thread. Hopefully this will be useful to others as well.
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Yeah, I had the same problem on the Thunderbolt, nothing stable. Viper however feels great. I would definitely freeze the HTC apps in Titanium Backup to get rid of the annoying pop ups. I noticed Viper has them uninstalled.
About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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I'm actually running that rom right now.
You don't need to flash the radio if you don't want. If you are happy with your cell reception, and battery life, as well as wifi, then you can stay on the original radio.
Or if you'd like to try the new radio, you can flash that (once you have s-off) with this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38197525
I'm not sure if there is a radio flash prepared to go back to the original radio. Generally speaking, once to are s-off, you can change radios at will.
From what I understand, if you flash the rom you linked to, and the radio above, then you will have everything from the update, except the updated hboot. I haven't bothered changing my hboot. changing hboot won't affect the day to day operation of the phone, but it can change the fast boot commands that are available. Until I see a good reason, I am not going to worry about my hboot.
FYI: about changing radios, from what I understand, the radio file is the code that tells the phone how to communicate with the towers. It tells the phone how to adjust the power output of the radio according to the strength of signal from the cell. This can be very aggressive, leading to better signal, at the expense of battery life (increasing power output of the phone radio takes more power from the battery), or it can be conservative, with a little lower quality signal, but conserving battery life.
It seems that the engineers at the carriers are constantly tweaking the radio code to find a sweet spot between signal quality and battery life. Different carriers may tweak the radio for the same phone with a different priority. Sprint may prioritize signal, while verizon prioritizes battery. So each carrier may have a different radio file for phone that is in the same phone family. And then each carrier may have multiple radios. On the thunderbolt there were about 6 or 7 I think, but it is generally believed that newer radios work better than older ones.
Some people on xda will often experiment to see which radio file works best for them, depending on where they live and work.
I always try to be careful to only flash redid that others have reported to work with my device, rather than experimenting personally. I would think that you can brick your phone flashing the wrong radio file.
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Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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Firmware is the Android system. The Droid DNA is on on 4.1.1 (Jelly Bean). That version has not changed in the new OTA update so I don't know why that ROM even mentioned it.
The Kernal is the interface that alows the software to access the hardware. A more detailed explanation can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
HBOOT is 'kinda' like your BIOS in windows. It is the bootloader. It is the first thing that is loaded on your phone. This too I believe has not changed with the latest OTA update.
This is the change log for the 2.04.605.2 710RD update
Bluetooth connectivity and volume level for specific models have been improved
Enhanced reliability and stability of the Contacts List have been made
Enhanced Recent Apps functionality has been improved
Incoming messages display with the correct timestamp
Improvements to Hotspot connectivity have been made
Improvements to Audio Quality for wired headsets and earpieces have been made
Improvements to default browser for zooming capability have been made
User can load videos on HuluPlus
Wi-Fi Connectivity has been improved
As you can see it is mostly stuff related to your radio so the radio is the main part you would want. I personally just updated my radio and din't worry about anything else.
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Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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I don't think it is deodexed otherwise it would tell you. I think deodexed is good if you want to theme.
I'm using the first one, which isn't deodexed. But I'm keeping my rom close to stock this week
Next week, when the Viper rom has been updated to 2.04, I'll be flashing that, and probably a theme.
You indicated that you aren't currently running any mods or themes. Unless you are looking to change, I would suggest you flash the first rom you linked, which is stock, except for the root capability being added to it.
The de-odexed rom you asked about will have been modified, deleting the .odex files so that the rom can further be customized by themes etc. When a phone boots a rom that is missing the .odex files, it will take longer to boot because it will essentially create the missing .odex files on the fly while booting. But when you are modding your rom, adding themes etc., existing .odex files get in the way, so that is why developers remove the .odex files, even though the rom will take longer to boot. Once the phone is booted, whether the rom was odexed or not becomes irrelevant.
For now, if you are looking to be on the latest radio and HTC rom, I suggest you get s-off, then flash the basic 2.04 rom (the one you linked to first), and the updated radios. Hopefully HTC will soon release the updated source files for the 2.04 kernel, and then we will have more customization.
If you are looking to customize now, I would get s-off, then flash the updated radios, but stay with a rom based on the original released rom and source (like Viper). The latest Viper rom (with updates to 1.1.3) has modifications so that you won't have to worry about getting bugged to update your ROM for 2.04. If you decided to go with Viper, it is a little confusing when viper is updating from 1.1 to 1.1.1 to 1.1.2 to 1.1.3, because it uses an over-the-air (OTA) update process similar to the stock OTA update. So you may see notices for updates - but the updates would be for Viper. Once you have gotten your phone s-off, you don't need to worry about updates causing problems.
Spaded21 said:
Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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Ok so I have done everything, S-off, deodexed stock ROM, 3.4.10 kernel (it flashed with the ROM), and updated radio. I'm able to boot up but I don't have wifi.
Edit: Flashed the boot.img from the zip and it's working now.
Spaded21 said:
Ok so I have done everything, S-off, deodexed stock ROM, 3.4.10 kernel (it flashed with the ROM), and updated radio. I'm able to boot up but I don't have wifi.
Edit: Flashed the boot.img from the zip and it's working now.
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Congrats!
I think that rom you used wasn't set up properly to flash the boot.img from recovery, so that is why you had to do it manually. As time goes on (and there are more users with s-off), I think most new roms will be set up properly, so you shouldn't run into that again.
The whole process wasn't that hard, and using TiB made it really easy to get everything back.
So how do I go about removing bloatware now that I have S-Off and I am deodexed?
Although there are several ways to start removing bloatware, one of the easiest ways is to go into TiBu, and freeze apps. Make a nandroid backup first, and start slow.
Some apps have dependencies, you freeze one, and another might not work, like contacts and dialer.
After you have frozen an app, and are confident that it isn't necessary, you can delete it if you want.
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Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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I would highly recommend using the OTA blocking zip to kill the update messages. I'm not very handy with posting zips yet but search the threads for the disable OTA. I am on the Viper DNA rom also but I put the OTA blocking on just in case. If I were on my PC instead of my phone I could have posted the zip file for you. I'm sure with each rom the developer has added a file to make sure the OTA is killed but you can never be too sure.
Easiest way to get 2.04 OTA for rooted DNA phones
Hat-tip .Torrented from our discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993&page=12
Get Facepalm S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Download stock recovery from: http://goo.im/devs/Flyhalf205/DNA/dlx_recovery_signed.img
Flash the stock recovery using:
fastboot flash recovery dlx_recovery_signed.img
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Once you are on stock recovery, and assuming you're on stock kernel, it allows you to take the OTA update!
After you take the ota just flash the custom recovery of your choice again. CWM Touch is a good option: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Flash the superuser-busybox.zip to root.
This gives you a completely clean "factory" upgrade to 2.04, without losing any of your data (YMMV - so pls always take a backup before you do this).
It worked for me - yippee!!!
Software number: 2.04.605.2 710RD
Kernel version: 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
Baseband version: 1.01.01.0110
Whole procedure took less than 15 minutes
zanyguy said:
Hat-tip .Torrented from our discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993&page=12
Get Facepalm S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Download stock recovery from: http://goo.im/devs/Flyhalf205/DNA/dlx_recovery_signed.img
Flash the stock recovery using:
Once you are on stock recovery, and assuming you're on stock kernel, it allows you to take the OTA update!
After you take the ota just flash the custom recovery of your choice again. CWM Touch is a good option: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Flash the superuser-busybox.zip to root.
This gives you a completely clean "factory" up to 2.04, without losing any of your data (YMMV - so pls always take a backup before you do this).
It worked for me - yippee!!!
Software number: 2.04.605.2 710RD
Kernel version: 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
Baseband version: 1.01.01.0110
Whole procedure took less than 15 minutes
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Thanks zanyguy for the procedure and process outline. I have a question regarding my current format and was wondering if going to a stock rooted version would work for me. Since every end user is different then there are different things they want of course. For me the process is very simple. I like a very lean system. I also like to try and achieve many things to look as close to AOSP as I can get and keep functionality. My current setup has the phone unlocked, rooted, s-off and running Viper 1.1.3. My radio is the OTA update radio of 1.01.01.0110 and my kernel is the same 3.4.10-ga02d2c6. What I wonder is this. Should I even bother trying to flash the stock Rom? Is there any benefits to doing so? And if I do give it a spin should I just restore the Viper DNA rom or re flash anew?
Thanks