Does anyone else on Tmo/Orange Uk have issues with 3G speeds? Mine are much slower than on the SGS and I can't figure out why.... I'm starting to worry if my phone has a fault ....
anyone had issues?
thanks!!
Dont think it's your phones fault. I get up to 4mbps everytime i take a test, and i got only 2mbps with my desire so, yeh this phone rocks.
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Does anyone else on Tmo/Orange Uk have issues with 3G speeds? Mine are much slower than on the SGS and I can't figure out why.... I'm starting to worry if my phone has a fault ....
anyone had issues?
thanks!!
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just 3G speeds? or with 'H' aswell? download 'speedtest' from android market(free), if your download speed hovers around 356-357kbs, then I would say your download speed is capped.I'm with t-mobile, and mine was. I had to phone and get through to their techy dept and get them to enable 'Hspda'
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just 3G speeds? or with 'H' aswell? download 'speedtest' from android market(free), if your download speed hovers around 356-357kbs, then I would say your download speed is capped.I'm with t-mobile, and mine was. I had to phone and get through to their techy dept and get them to enable 'Hspda'
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whats the difference between H and 3g? coz mine goes from h to 3g and then back to h, that didnt happen on my desire. i always thought H was the same as 3g :S
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whats the difference between H and 3g? coz mine goes from h to 3g and then back to h, that didnt happen on my desire. i always thought H was the same as 3g :S
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http://blog.ruggedandmobile.com/2010/01/26/a-guide-on-the-difference-between-gprs-edge-3g-and-hsdpa/
G - this stands for GPRS, and is the slowest data transfer method (approx 32 - 48 Kbps)
3G - This is the next level available on T-Mobile, and is around 10 times faster (384 Kbps)
H - stands for High Speed Downlink Packet Access, and is essentially 3.5G. In theory, TM's network
can transfer at 7.2Mbps, but real world tests tend to average out at around 2 Mbps, still significantly
faster than 3G
There is also HSDPA+(H+) which is even faster.
Hope this helps explain
stoney73 said:
http://blog.ruggedandmobile.com/2010/01/26/a-guide-on-the-difference-between-gprs-edge-3g-and-hsdpa/
G - this stands for GPRS, and is the slowest data transfer method (approx 32 - 48 Kbps)
3G - This is the next level available on T-Mobile, and is around 10 times faster (384 Kbps)
H - stands for High Speed Downlink Packet Access, and is essentially 3.5G. In theory, TM's network
can transfer at 7.2Mbps, but real world tests tend to average out at around 2 Mbps, still significantly
faster than 3G
There is also HSDPA+(H+) which is even faster.
Hope this helps explain
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Nice details, thanks bud! i guess my desire wasn't capable of doing 4mbps, it only got upto 2 while sgs2 gets upto 4mbps which is awesome
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I apologize for this thread as it might not be in the correct area, but i figured most people log into the dev section so this might get answered quicker...
I have 2 questions so lets start with the first:
1) For some reason I'm not getting HSPDA network working on my phone. the best speed I've posted is about 3.2Mbs, which is not HSPDA speeds, or at least not as fast as it should be. It also says that i'm on 3G as opposed to H...is there a reason for this. Keep in mind I live in LA and they have one of the strongest networks for HSPDA (at least according to the rep I talked to).
2) Is it possible for us to get HSPDA+ speeds with a radio update. I don't know too much about the radio but it would seem to me like that is what it would take to get the HSPDA+ working as I'm assuming that it is the radio that determins your speed and not the hardware...though I could be wrong.
Just a thought, and a response would be awesome.
Thanks in advance guys and gals!
I would answer if this were posted in the correct forum.
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I would answer if this were posted in the correct forum.
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where would you like me to post this then...not sure where to post...general q&a?
EDIT: Now posted in gernal Q&A....
settings > about phone > status
what does it say the mobile network type is? the status bar will still display '3G' if you're on HSDPA unless you're on froyo or a custom rom.
If you go to menu settings, about phone, status, it will tell you if you are connected to hsdpa... But it won't show up in the status bar...
The more ppl on the network the slower the speeds will be... I can connect to an hspa tower about 30 mins away but I don't get the speeds... my phone is actually slower now with the new tower...
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settings > about phone > status
what does it say the mobile network type is? the status bar will still display '3G' if you're on HSDPA unless you're on froyo or a custom rom.
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it says HSDPA but it doesn't feel like that, i figgured it would just fly, but it's not as fast as I thought it should be. Also the speed test is only giving me like 3.2Mbs as opposed to my friend with with the behold II who is getting like 5...
Also, anyone got any info on the second question by chance?
i haven't done enough research on the vibrant's HSPA+ capabilities to answer
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i haven't done enough research on the vibrant's HSPA+ capabilities to answer
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it would seem to me that the radio would do it...i mean that is what the radio is, it tells your phone what signal to use...right...can any devs help us out?
zbt1985 said:
1) For some reason I'm not getting HSPDA network working on my phone. the best speed I've posted is about 3.2Mbs, which is not HSPDA speeds, or at least not as fast as it should be. It also says that i'm on 3G as opposed to H...is there a reason for this. Keep in mind I live in LA and they have one of the strongest networks for HSPDA (at least according to the rep I talked to).
2) Is it possible for us to get HSPDA+ speeds with a radio update. I don't know too much about the radio but it would seem to me like that is what it would take to get the HSPDA+ working as I'm assuming that it is the radio that determins your speed and not the hardware...though I could be wrong.
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1)That is HSDPA. Normal 3G is UMTS 384kbps, HSDPA 3.5G Theoretical Maximum of 7.2 (also available in 3.5, 7.2, 14.4, etc) getting down 3.2mbps is considered very quick, connection really tops out at a max of ~5mbps, but would require you to be near a tower with a fast backhaul, and not many other people on the network at the same time. Also keep in mind speedtests are not completely accurate as they have cached data they are sending to you.
2) There is no such thing as HSDPA+, there is HSDPA in a bunch of flavors, and HSPA+. and no, our radio does not support HSPA+ 20mbps. but in field tests it was only marginally faster than HSDPA 7.2mbps anyway. the radio is a piece of hardware, there is firmware they can tweak to try and get more potential out of it, but its just more of the potential of the hardware, not extra speed.
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1)That is HSDPA. Normal 3G is UMTS 384kbps, HSDPA 3.5G Theoretical Maximum of 7.2 (also available in 3.5, 7.2, 14.4, etc) getting down 3.2mbps is considered very quick, connection really tops out at a max of ~5mbps, but would require you to be near a tower with a fast backhaul, and not many other people on the network at the same time. Also keep in mind speedtests are not completely accurate as they have cached data they are sending to you.
2) There is no such thing as HSDPA+, there is HSDPA in a bunch of flavors, and HSPA+. and no, our radio does not support HSPA+ 20mbps. but in field tests it was only marginally faster than HSDPA 7.2mbps anyway. the radio is a piece of hardware, there is firmware they can tweak to try and get more potential out of it, but its just more of the potential of the hardware, not extra speed.
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thanks for the info, glad to know that I am at normal speeds.
Also thanks for answering on if we were able to get HSPA+ on our phones!
I believe the vibrant can get speeds up to 7.2 down. Personally, I get ~5-6mbps at my house (Seattle, WA) and the most I've hit is ~6.5.
If you flashed the Update, your not going to get a Speed increase.
After Testing & Testing me & barak both don't get over 3.5MB & with the Old Modem.bin we both get over 6MB downloads..
Another thing we noticed with the new Modem.bin is it never switches to the H network, just stays on 3G / E..
With the old Modem.bin H / 3G /E Connects
eugene373 said:
If you flashed the Update, your not going to get a Speed increase.
After Testing & Testing me & barak both don't get over 3.5MB & with the Old Modem.bin we both get over 6MB downloads..
Another thing we noticed with the new Modem.bin is it never switches to the H network, just stays on 3G / E..
With the old Modem.bin H / 3G /E Connects
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so the leaked update actually downgraded the phone's ability for better speeds? wtf
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If you flashed the Update, your not going to get a Speed increase.
After Testing & Testing me & barak both don't get over 3.5MB & with the Old Modem.bin we both get over 6MB downloads..
Another thing we noticed with the new Modem.bin is it never switches to the H network, just stays on 3G / E..
With the old Modem.bin H / 3G /E Connects
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3.5 mbps is on the H network. the normal 3g network would be 0.3mbps....
However I'm not disputing that the H network could have been crippled/slower after a modem update. You are still on HDSPA, just something has been messed up about it and its only half as fast as normal for you.
I'm on hsdpa and I'm only getting .3mbps
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1)That is HSDPA. Normal 3G is UMTS 384kbps, HSDPA 3.5G Theoretical Maximum of 7.2 (also available in 3.5, 7.2, 14.4, etc) getting down 3.2mbps is considered very quick, connection really tops out at a max of ~5mbps, but would require you to be near a tower with a fast backhaul, and not many other people on the network at the same time. Also keep in mind speedtests are not completely accurate as they have cached data they are sending to you.
2) There is no such thing as HSDPA+, there is HSDPA in a bunch of flavors, and HSPA+. and no, our radio does not support HSPA+ 20mbps. but in field tests it was only marginally faster than HSDPA 7.2mbps anyway. the radio is a piece of hardware, there is firmware they can tweak to try and get more potential out of it, but its just more of the potential of the hardware, not extra speed.
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My phone shows that I'm on UMTS and I'm getting 5mbps dl speeds. Occasionally I'll be on HSDPA but the speeds stay about the same.
UMTS is 3G, HSDPA is an improvement to the UMTS protocol.
So yes, all HSDPA/HSPA is UMTS, not all UMTS is of the HSDPA/HSPA.
UMTS (vanilla) 384 kbps
UMTS (HSDPA 1.8/3.5/7.2/14.4) 1.8/3.5/7.2/14.4mbps
UMTS (HSUPA) up to 5.76mbps Enhanced uplink portions of the data connection
UMTS (HSPA+) up to 56 Mbit/s on the downlink and 22 Mbit/s on the uplink
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I'm on hsdpa and I'm only getting .3mbps
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Theoretical Maximums, you can get UP TO that number, anywhere between 0 and that number is what reality is.
eugene373 said:
If you flashed the Update, your not going to get a Speed increase.
After Testing & Testing me & barak both don't get over 3.5MB & with the Old Modem.bin we both get over 6MB downloads..
Another thing we noticed with the new Modem.bin is it never switches to the H network, just stays on 3G / E..
With the old Modem.bin H / 3G /E Connects
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Sounds like an obvious problem, but not sure what that could be. Also, 3.5MB is not the same as 3.5Mb. 3.5MB/s = 28megabits. 3.5Mb/s = .43MB/s.
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2) There is no such thing as HSDPA+, there is HSDPA in a bunch of flavors, and HSPA+. and no, our radio does not support HSPA+ 20mbps. but in field tests it was only marginally faster than HSDPA 7.2mbps anyway. the radio is a piece of hardware, there is firmware they can tweak to try and get more potential out of it, but its just more of the potential of the hardware, not extra speed.
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While I am mostly a fan of your answer (it is pretty much spot on), I do have to make you aware of the acronyms and their meanings.
HSDPA = High Speed Downlink Packet Access
HSUPA = High Speed Uplink Packet Access
HSPA = High Speed Packet Access (this implies that the network uses BOTH HSUPA and HSDPA)
HSDPA+, HSPA+ = Evolved HS(D)PA
Just FYI.
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My phone shows that I'm on UMTS and I'm getting 5mbps dl speeds. Occasionally I'll be on HSDPA but the speeds stay about the same.
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Exactly what I get...
Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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Hello all - I don't know if there's any answer to this or not but thought I'd throw it out there. I updated Android myself to 2.1 since apparently AT&T doesn't feel the need to. That has been a fine experience and I've experience nothing negative aside from the wireless network speed. My phone now always has the H (for HSDPA from what I understand) instead of of 3G, but downloads, web browsing, and YouTube are all way slower than they were before. It takes 10 - 15 seconds to download a 750k app usually. I have ran the speed test app from speedtest.net and its results confirm this by showing 44 kbps downstream & 750 kbps upstream speeds.
Is there anything I can do to fix this? I know that HSDPA is supposed to be faster than 3G but this is unbearable - I am almost tempted to use EDGE exclusively because that is all I pick up at home (EDGE service that is) and I get better performance when using the browser than I do with HSDPA (although that is probably more mental than anything since when on HSDPA I am sitting there staring at the phone thinking "What is taking so long!" and when on EDGE I choose something and then don't worry about it for a few because I know it will take some time.
Thanks for any advice!
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This is probably a network coverage issue and nothing you can do about it from a phone standpoint.
Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
Thanks!
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Ha! I love the first response had a joker pic because I was thinking of the joker when I wrote "why so sloooow".
Anyways when you say coverage what do you mean precisely? do you simply mean at&t hasnt done enough in my area for hsdpa to be effective? I do always have a full 4 bars of strength on it pretty much.
Thanks!
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Yes, I mean AT&T. Having four bars means that you have a good signal. It does not indicate however how much bandwidth AT&T has allocated to that particular area/tower.
Think of it like a wireless router at home or office. On your laptop or computer, you see that you have a strong WiFi signal but, that does not mean that you have a fast connection as that depends on your DSL/cable connection.
Get my point?
Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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Got it, that's what I feared. So in essence by improving my phone with 2.1 I screwed my phone (currently) with hsdpa
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No, it did not screw your phone. Your phone is innocent here. It is probably the network. AT&T may have a problem in that area. Did you try the speed somewhere else?
Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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I am on att also with the 2.1, luckily im in an area where i get around 2mb/2mb sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Did you try the setting in wirelessnetworks/mobile networks/network mode/ tick wcdma only if not on H. could help not sure, just a thought.
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Nope, haven't tried it anywhere else. I didn't mean screw my phone, what I, meant was if at&t is not so good with hsdpa in my area I am stuck with those speeds until that is resolved because I can't force 3g (my speed when I had iphone 3g was usually around 1 mbps)
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Your phone automatically switches between H/3G/E where available. I also have AT&T and have debranded my phone and did not notice any lag.
your problem is AT&T.
H is higher than 3G. if you got problems with it it`s because the signal is strong enough to use H but it preforms worse than 3G (cunfusing ah?!)
Well I was outside of my town the other day, in the country and noticed I was in hsdpa somehow so I ran a test and out there I was getting on average about 3.7 mbps. I guess where I am most of the time just isn't an optimal spot. Thanks all for the responses!
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Hi All,
I have the Speedtest.net app on my SGSII and have run some speed tests and am getting some results that I find weird.
Yesterday I tested my network speed from my home (small basement suite apartment if that matters) and the results were as follows...
Network HSPA Download -0kbps, Upload -0kbps, Ping -1ms at 8:12PM
Network HSPA Download 247kbps, Upload 15kbps, Ping 1172ms at 8:14PM
Network WiFi Download 11401kbps, Upload 505kbps, Ping 47ms at 8:26PM
Today
Network UMTS Download 2269kbps, Upload 664kbps, Ping 185ms at 10:07am
I know the WiFi ones will be different but can anyone tell me why my HSPA ones from yesterday are SO LOW and if my UMTS (3G) one from today is atleast in the normal range?
I am confused...
Thanks,
One test isn't enough. Maybe the network/cell tower was saturated or had a problem, preventing full speed in your HSPA test.
The 0/0/-1 are Speedtest's bug.
XpLoDWilD said:
One test isn't enough. Maybe the network/cell tower was saturated or had a problem, preventing full speed in your HSPA test.
The 0/0/-1 are Speedtest's bug.
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Thank You for the info. Can you explain to me... Is UMTS 3G and HSPA is 3G+? Is that correct?
Today at work I ran a couple more tests and my UMTS Results were fluctuating as well... (I diddnt have any tests that came back HSPA today so far) Anywhere between 863kbps download to 1390kbps download and 301kbps upload to 748kbps upload... Are these weird as well? How can I get a true test of my 3G and HSPA speeds?
they are just slower speeds, the network seems to be under heavy capacity in your area. the only way to get a better idea is to test in the middle of the night, at 1 am, when the network is nearly empty and wide open.
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they are just slower speeds, the network seems to be under heavy capacity in your area. the only way to get a better idea is to test in the middle of the night, at 1 am, when the network is nearly empty and wide open.
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Thank You as well for your response. Can you tell me... IF my device was folr some reason running in 2G or "Edge" mode it would show that as the "Network Type" in the test like it says UMTS or HSPA? Is that correct?
Yes if your phone switches to edge you will see an E at the top of the screen and the setting menu will say edge. You were definitely on HSDPA though, just a slow network, cause edge is limited to 236 kbps. Your speeds were higher than that except for the one that goofed completely.
I have had the phone for weeks and The 4g or h+ speeds are slow less than 1mbs down And no more than 800k up. Is this how fast At&t's 4g is or not?
P.S This is my first smart phone and It's the best phone I have ever seen. thank you
My 3g seems to be working fine... I dunno abt at&t but.... talking about mbps with my connection im getting good speeds more than 3mbps in general that equivalent to abt excess of 300 kBps download speed.
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I'm in central Florida (kissimmee/Orlando) and I'm getting an average of 3mbps down and 1.1mbps up. Just curious as to what the rest of you are getting.
Also this might be a silly question, but if I'm on "4G", should it say UMTS or HSPA+ in my about phone status?
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It says HPSA. Haven't checked my speeds, been on Wi-Fi.
what are your pings?
Ping 75 ms
Download 3681 kbps
Upload 617kbps
does it feel fast as far as when you hit the browser until a page loads?
Yes the browser performance is quite good.
More info: HSPA+ isn't available in Charlotte currently, Charlotte uses the 1900 band
I live in Indianapolis, IN and I have an H+ on my status bar and my speeds were clocked at
4139 kbps down
1105 kbps up
130ms ping
I am currently a bit further out than Indianapolis at the moment though so I am not sure if the speeds will be better once I am in the city.
Does the the H+ mean we are getting 4G? If so hspa+ speed is pretty disappointing.
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Does the the H+ mean we are getting 4G? If so hspa+ speed is pretty disappointing.
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H+ means HSPA+, this is not an LTE (real 4G) phone.
Mine is showing H+ up top but UMTS in phone status. My ping is averaging 150ms. So far feels faster than my captivate, but I was expecting better.
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I was more asking if the H+ icon actually means we are getting hspa+. As the speeds don't seem that much better than what I had on my captivate. Also when I dial *#0011# it says HSPA+ used:0 leading me to believe the h+ icon has no real meaning.
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I'm in central Florida (kissimmee/Orlando) and I'm getting an average of 3mbps down and 1.1mbps up. Just curious as to what the rest of you are getting.
Also this might be a silly question, but if I'm on "4G", should it say UMTS or HSPA+ in my about phone status?
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My S2 will be sitting idle until some ROMs pop up, but the S2 demo in my local AT&T store got around 2.5 mbps down and 1 mbps up (which is typical for my area).
When in the settings, you'll see UMTS. Devices often switch to HSDPA/HSPA when a data session starts.
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Does the the H+ mean we are getting 4G? If so hspa+ speed is pretty disappointing.
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No, I haven't turned mine on yet but with other devices AT&T set them up to display H+ for UMTS (3G) and HSPA (3.5G).
on my inspire in southeastern connecticut, I'm getting 6mb down and 2mb up, with a ping of 101. this is on H, not hspa+. hopefully my gs2 will be a bit faster once i get it
Anywhere from 3-8 down and a pretty consistent 1.0 up here in Akron Ohio and surrounding areas
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Not sure what's up with my speeds...
44kbps Download
45kbps Upload
261ms Ping
This is in Little Falls, NJ
At my house I'm getting about 3 Mbps down 1 up. With my captivate I got around 1.8 down .9 up. Slight improvement.
However my wifi connection is way faster.
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Interesting, I'm having a trend of faster pings but lower data speeds on my gs2 than my inspire. In areas I would get around 4-5 mbps the gs2 gets 3xxx, and where I normally connect in my living room at 28-2900 I am now getting 1500 or so. However ping is twice as fast
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Interesting, I'm having a trend of faster pings but lower data speeds on my gs2 than my inspire. In areas I would get around 4-5 mbps the gs2 gets 3xxx, and where I normally connect in my living room at 28-2900 I am now getting 1500 or so. However ping is twice as fast
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Maybe it's enough compensation (latency) for slower speeds?
I'm getting 8-9 Mbps down and about 1 Mbps up in midtown Atlanta right now in the middle of the day.
I am in between Washington D.C and Baltimore MD and I am getting the following. I will try and remember to bring my Captivate to work tomorrow to see if there is a huge difference between the two.
2816 down
937 up
99ms Ping