Sell my iPhone 4 or Motorola atrix 4g? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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fwdkiller said:
My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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I dunno whats wrong with it now? This thing makes an iphone look like a toy.
You got a leaked iphone 5 ? Wowzors
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fwdkiller said:
My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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Coming from iPhone myself, I would say keep it keep it keep it! Even if the bootloader is never unlocked or circumnavigated it is still leaps and bounds over the iPhone 4.
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fwdkiller said:
My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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i prefer iphone just because i am tired of android

fwdkiller said:
My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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I would stay with the Atrix since the iPhone cannot match the reception of the Atrix, amongst a few other things.

Maybe ill keep it for awhile and see what happens to it in the future.
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We are very close at seeing custom roms with tenfars work. Id hold onto the Atrix, it really is the better phone. If we do see custom roms it will be blazing.
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sifon187 said:
We are very close at seeing custom roms with tenfars work. Id hold onto the Atrix, it really is the better phone. If we do see custom roms it will be blazing.
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What he said!

lorijuan1024 said:
i prefer iphone just because i am tired of android
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I prefer Android because ios is at the simplicity level for a 5 year old.

Its like a video game... Iphone is easy mode and android is hardcore mode
Iphone is easy to master fun to jump into and android you read forums and you gotta learn it. But when you master android you become a superuser and can honestly keep that new phone feel daily. My nexus felt new for a year and a half. My 3gs felt new for 3 months... My atrix feels like I'm in the future.
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The only thing I liked about iphone is that it got me to get into jail breaking.. Once that happened it was android destiny.
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Honestly I like the iphone- its aesthetically appealing in design and media, but the Atrix is a powerhouse in comparison. Comparable in graphics, the Atrix gives you more screen without being overly big like some other android phones such as the infuse.
It all comes down to the user. Are you a mac or pc guy? Its really that simple. If you're a pc guy, you wont regret the Atrix. I love it.
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I have both phones...I got the iPhone 4 and the Atrix on both of their respective release dates. Let's break it down:
Obviously, both iOS and Android have their proven advantages. Jailbroken iOS vs. rooted Atrix...it's a close call. One of the things I really love about iOS is the universality- in respects of apps and common accessories. It's always really convenient knowing where ever you go, someone is going to have an iPhone/iPod charger. And, one of the things I really love about Android is the open source feel and really just the amount of customization possible. Even with a jailbroken iPhone, Android is just simply more customizable. Software is a near tie, but I've got to give it to iOS because it really is just easier to do simple tasks quickly.
Hardware wise, both devices are pretty impressive. Since Apple is realeasing 1 device a year and Motorola is releasing approximately ~10, the build quality is going to be better on an iPhone. Really think about it- all the Android manufacturers are just getting as many phones as they can get out possible. The only device I feel is just completely solid all around, in every aspect, is the Nexus One/Nexus S, but obviously that's because Google itself has every say in every detail of the device. That being said, the build quality on the Atrix is still really good. If it didn't have such a horrible back/battery cover, it would be pretty even with the solid feeling you get when holding an iPhone. It'd also be nice to have some aluminum on the Atrix to make it feel a little more sturdy, and a better placement of the lock button would be nice since you can't unlock the device laying flat. But, the Atrix has 2 hardware advantages- screen size and overall reception. I consistently drop less calls and get better reception indoors with my Atrix than my iPhone. No surprise really, but it's the truth. And playing the games that are available on the Atrix are simply more entertaining because of the larger screen. I've got to give the hardware award to the iPhone too, but this is also a close call.
Of course, this is all my opinion, and even though I rotate which device I use almost daily, I do tend to pick my iPhone more often than not. I think both iOS and Android are amazing OS's, and Android really is a fun platform that's more capable out of the box, but the one and only thing that truly keeps me from using my Atrix as much as my iPhone 4 is the lack of apps. I'm a student, which means I use lots of apps/games on a daily basis, and the inability to have the same app as someone around while using my Atrix really is what keeps me from using it more. Aside from customization apps/Swype, I haven't once seen an app on Android that I wished iOS had. Any great app Android has is available on iOS (aside from the stock applications). But really, accounting for all of these things, it's what feels right for you. When people ask me which platform to get since I do have both, I say for 90% of people, iPhone's are the obvious choice, because most people that ask me that question obviously aren't tech savvy. But, that 10% does exist for tech savvy and power users. Asking myself and yourself that question is obviously much more difficult because we are both tech savvy and power users, otherwise you wouldn't be on XDA. There isn't a clear choice, but for me, if I had 1 choice I'd choose my iPhone and I wouldn't hesitate. Ask yourself that question, which one could you not live without? There's your answer.

I use my iphone 4 more often because I love the retina display and the games are way better. Android is slowly dieing, too many phones are using android os and its killing itself from the market I'm very lucky I traded my atrix for an ipad 64gb and 200 bucks so no more android for me. Android Facebook app needs alot of work . It comes down too if u want to keep flashing shiity roms. Choose android or if u want a phone that works pick up a iPhone 4.
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I use my iphone 4 more often because I love the retina display and the games are way better. Android is slowly dieing, too many phones are using android os and its killing itself from the market I'm very lucky I traded my atrix for an ipad 64gb and 200 bucks so no more android for me. Android Facebook app needs alot of work . It comes down too if u want to keep flashing shiity roms. Choose android or if u want a phone that works pick up a iPhone 4.
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Its like a video game... Iphone is easy mode and android is hardcore mode
Iphone is easy to master fun to jump into and android you read forums and you gotta learn it. But when you master android you become a superuser and can honestly keep that new phone feel daily. My nexus felt new for a year and a half. My 3gs felt new for 3 months... My atrix feels like I'm in the future.
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I am in complete agreement for once! LOL
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fwdkiller said:
I use my iphone 4 more often because I love the retina display and the games are way better. Android is slowly dieing, too many phones are using android os and its killing itself from the market I'm very lucky I traded my atrix for an ipad 64gb and 200 bucks so no more android for me. Android Facebook app needs alot of work . It comes down too if u want to keep flashing shiity roms. Choose android or if u want a phone that works pick up a iPhone 4.
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Make sure you hold the way Apple wants you to, so you don't drop any calls. Also you basically paid $700 dollars on a used iPad. Congrats
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fwdkiller said:
I use my iphone 4 more often because I love the retina display and the games are way better. Android is slowly dieing, too many phones are using android os and its killing itself from the market I'm very lucky I traded my atrix for an ipad 64gb and 200 bucks so no more android for me. Android Facebook app needs alot of work . It comes down too if u want to keep flashing shiity roms. Choose android or if u want a phone that works pick up a iPhone 4.
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I hardly think Android is dying (or dieing as you called it). It is growing faster than anticipated and predicted.
Nothing wrong with an Apple product and I own and love my Macbook. I played with the iPhone and never wanted one.
My reply to the OP is if you want a phone that does most everything that an iPhone does and yet be able to make phone calls and not drop connection, then for sure go with the Atrix.

trey992 said:
I have both phones...I got the iPhone 4 and the Atrix on both of their respective release dates. Let's break it down:
Obviously, both iOS and Android have their proven advantages. Jailbroken iOS vs. rooted Atrix...it's a close call. One of the things I really love about iOS is the universality- in respects of apps and common accessories. It's always really convenient knowing where ever you go, someone is going to have an iPhone/iPod charger. And, one of the things I really love about Android is the open source feel and really just the amount of customization possible. Even with a jailbroken iPhone, Android is just simply more customizable. Software is a near tie, but I've got to give it to iOS because it really is just easier to do simple tasks quickly.
Hardware wise, both devices are pretty impressive. Since Apple is realeasing 1 device a year and Motorola is releasing approximately ~10, the build quality is going to be better on an iPhone. Really think about it- all the Android manufacturers are just getting as many phones as they can get out possible. The only device I feel is just completely solid all around, in every aspect, is the Nexus One/Nexus S, but obviously that's because Google itself has every say in every detail of the device. That being said, the build quality on the Atrix is still really good. If it didn't have such a horrible back/battery cover, it would be pretty even with the solid feeling you get when holding an iPhone. It'd also be nice to have some aluminum on the Atrix to make it feel a little more sturdy, and a better placement of the lock button would be nice since you can't unlock the device laying flat. But, the Atrix has 2 hardware advantages- screen size and overall reception. I consistently drop less calls and get better reception indoors with my Atrix than my iPhone. No surprise really, but it's the truth. And playing the games that are available on the Atrix are simply more entertaining because of the larger screen. I've got to give the hardware award to the iPhone too, but this is also a close call.
Of course, this is all my opinion, and even though I rotate which device I use almost daily, I do tend to pick my iPhone more often than not. I think both iOS and Android are amazing OS's, and Android really is a fun platform that's more capable out of the box, but the one and only thing that truly keeps me from using my Atrix as much as my iPhone 4 is the lack of apps. I'm a student, which means I use lots of apps/games on a daily basis, and the inability to have the same app as someone around while using my Atrix really is what keeps me from using it more. Aside from customization apps/Swype, I haven't once seen an app on Android that I wished iOS had. Any great app Android has is available on iOS (aside from the stock applications). But really, accounting for all of these things, it's what feels right for you. When people ask me which platform to get since I do have both, I say for 90% of people, iPhone's are the obvious choice, because most people that ask me that question obviously aren't tech savvy. But, that 10% does exist for tech savvy and power users. Asking myself and yourself that question is obviously much more difficult because we are both tech savvy and power users, otherwise you wouldn't be on XDA. There isn't a clear choice, but for me, if I had 1 choice I'd choose my iPhone and I wouldn't hesitate. Ask yourself that question, which one could you not live without? There's your answer.
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I agree but My iphone gets the same reception as the Atrix. Seems like a few Android apps do need a little more brushing up(facebook, scorecenter for example).

Iphone apps? LoL don't make me laugh.. You don't have emulators... Flash..
Do they even have the new maps? I think the best iphone apps I had were google apps... **** if you liked tinkering with iphone it was a clear step to android.
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This is it man.....Iphone 4 or Vibrant??...

This is it guys...i have vibrant and brand new iphone4....help me choose one...
i love vibrant....and i like iphone....uhhhhh...to hard to decide...help me decide
Your choice
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gisu0602 said:
This is it guys...i have vibrant and brand new iphone4....help me choose one...
i love vibrant....and i like iphone....uhhhhh...to hard to decide...help me decide
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you have them both?
why not just use them both
if you can have both that's better. I haven't really used an iphone 4 to test it out but all i know is that it has more and better applications than the vibrant.
firefly6240 said:
you have them both?
why not just use them both
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I wish I could...man..I wish its gonna be hard to change micro sim...coz iphone got some tiny ****
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I'd get whatever makes you happy.
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gisu0602 said:
This is it guys...i have vibrant and brand new iphone4....help me choose one...
i love vibrant....and i like iphone....uhhhhh...to hard to decide...help me decide
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personally... i would keep the iPhone 4 and sell the Vibrant if you couldnt keep both. android phones tend to depreciate more in resale value compared to the iPhone line. plus iOS does have better games and more higher quality apps. Micro-sim is not a real problem since the original tmobile sim can be cut down to size, or go to the tmobile store and ask to change to a micro-sim. they do have a limited stock of micro-sims.
The Vibrant does most of what the iPhone does and better in most cases. Excellent Samsung Music player/Samsung DAC, excellent Samsung SAMOLED display panel, 3G connectivity, etc. it only makes more sense to keep the Vibrant. I had an iPhone before getting my Vibrant and I don't miss it. The main reason why I hated Android was because of the horrible sound quality and god awful "music player".. Samsung solved that and gave us some other extras to boot with the TouchWiz interface.
It's backing is not glass either, which was just a stupid move on Apple's part.
If you need iTunes, miss iOS only apps not yet ported to Android and / or find Android's user interface too complicated then stick with the iOS of the iPhone 4.
If you can do without iTunes (DoubleTwist with optional AirSync is a good replacement), like having the ability to design every home screen to very specific liking with more than mere icons, the freedom to move files on / off the device without syncing, the removable battery and expandable storage then stick with the Vibrant.
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If you need iTunes, miss iOS only apps not yet ported to Android and / or find Android's user interface too complicated then stick with the iOS of the iPhone 4.
If you can do without iTunes (DoubleTwist with optional AirSync is a good replacement), like having the ability to design every home screen to very specific liking with more than mere icons, the freedom to move files on / off the device without syncing, the removable battery and expandable storage then stick with the Vibrant.
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I hate I tunes and apple lines of stuffs...I like their hardwares..iphone4 is a true beauty...and I do realize not be able to drag and drop files will be pain in ass. Plus I don't want another music software on my computer.
I'll be on att network from tomorrow and soon will get vibrant unlock code. I also wanna see how 3g works on that.. if I like...android will be my choice. ...but still so hard to decide.
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I say neither. Get the Nexus S. Of course the vibrant may bust out with 2.3 before we know it but I doubt it will be as good as on the Nexus. The only downside I see to the Nexus S is the lack of expandable memory.
I had both as well. Sold my iPhone 4 and kept my Vibrant. No more dropped calls...ever again.
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I say neither. Get the Nexus S. Of course the vibrant may bust out with 2.3 before we know it but I doubt it will be as good as on the Nexus. The only downside I see to the Nexus S is the lack of expandable memory.
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No 3g on nexus s....with att network...I would say samsung already made outdated hardware.
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I've been using many phones and have spent my majority of time with an iPhone a.k.a iOS.
But I can surely tell you this - looking at the upcoming devices and growth of Android in comparison to Apps and 3D Games. 2011 is owned by Android and Windows Phone 7. So decide wisely where you want to put your money.
Save your money for Samsung Galaxy S 2 or LG Star.
brian_v3ntura said:
personally... i would keep the iPhone 4 and sell the Vibrant if you couldnt keep both. android phones tend to depreciate more in resale value compared to the iPhone line. plus iOS does have better games and more higher quality apps. Micro-sim is not a real problem since the original tmobile sim can be cut down to size, or go to the tmobile store and ask to change to a micro-sim. they do have a limited stock of micro-sims.
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Keep the Vibrant, sell the iPhone 4. Do you know how much an iPhone 4 is worth off contract? Anywhere from $600-$800.
I just came from an iPhone 4 to a Vibrant. Difference for me was i'm on T-Mobile so i chose the Vibrant to get 3G speeds.
Although android is starting to grow on me, and i really like some of the features of the Vibrant, the iPhone 4 is just a flat out superior phone in terms of speed, quality, and apps. There's really no arguement about any of that.
timmay2t said:
I just came from an iPhone 4 to a Vibrant. Difference for me was i'm on T-Mobile so i chose the Vibrant to get 3G speeds.
Although android is starting to grow on me, and i really like some of the features of the Vibrant, the iPhone 4 is just a flat out superior phone in terms of speed, quality, and apps. There's really no arguement about any of that.
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I resent that statement Flash some of the custom ROMs with a good kernel and then I can assure that Vibrant is way faster than iPhone 4. Android comes with features which a daily cell users needs, i4 unless we jailbreak and again spend $$$ we have access to less than 50% of apps which are freely available on the Android Market.
Don't want to start a i4 vs Android debate here, but just my personal take on the two.
Vibrant. The galaxy s line is amazing. I own a captivate and im soooooo happy. I hate apple and everything it makes. It just sucks. Plus you cant oc or uv the iphone. Your choice but i would say vibrant
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Jibreil said:
I resent that statement Flash some of the custom ROMs with a good kernel and then I can assure that Vibrant is way faster than iPhone 4. Android comes with features which a daily cell users needs, i4 unless we jailbreak and again spend $$$ we have access to less than 50% of apps which are freely available on the Android Market.
Don't want to start a i4 vs Android debate here, but just my personal take on the two.
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True not worth debating.. I only posted this thread so I can pick one. Since I have both the phones on hand...man no doubt that apple makes good hardware. Android os a better software...
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Product F(RED) said:
Keep the Vibrant, sell the iPhone 4. Do you know how much an iPhone 4 is worth off contract? Anywhere from $600-$800.
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Hey that's not a bad idea...I can make serious profit here...
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So how do you like it??

Is this the phone you have been waiting for?? I think I have but I'm not sure. Is it that much better than the Captivate and Infuse? Best AT&T phone at the present?? I'm currently using an Iphone 3gs that I borrowed cause I cracked my Tilt....
I've owned the Cappy and Infuse along with every iPhone except the 4S. GSII is easily the best phone on AT&T's network imho.
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I've owned a 3gs for 2 years, the
GSII is a huge step up.
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s2
I've also had the iPhone four and every iPhone before but can tell you without any hesitation the galaxy is the best phone I've ever owned. Great telephone calls, easy navigation, great apps and most of all great support from forums like XGA. Don't hesitate a minute!
I had the first android phone on AT&T (Backflip), and then the first *real* android phone, the Samsung Galaxy S (Captivate) it lasted me 15 months and was great. I upgraded to this phone a week ago and I can vouch that it's the best phone I've ever had! Extremely quick, superb optimization, ui, screen, camera, and nice battery life.
The GS2 is the best phone I have ever used and I would love for someone to show me a phone that is faster with a smoother UI and a sexier body. It doesnt exist. This is the phone of all phones in every category (except screen resolution ) and ill keep it until most likely the GS3
Hardware wise it's a real solid device. It has a nice set of cherry-picked pieces that are some of the best Samsung can offer, but the real value in this specific device is how similar it is to the i9100. This means we'll get a load of developer support and faster unofficial updates. Take a look at the Captivate vs the Infuse for an example. The Captivate had all kinds of development with a wide range of compatibility that pushed the capabilities of the device far beyond anything stock firmware or even your average 1 or 2 ROMs would have allowed.
Personally, S2 is like the ONLY phone from ATT that's worth owning since Nokia E71x. Cappy was like a down-syndrome brother to sammy line-up and Infuse's lack of developments and mods made me want to throw it against a wall.
the GS2 is a great phone ... until something better comes out. Seriously, this phone IS good but its just like any other phone when it first comes out. Its a nice upgrade until something better is released.
Any more reviews from preivous Iphone users?
I have had the Motorola attic,LG thrill, iPhone 3g,3gs,4 and 4s. My gs2 is not rooted and on a stock rom and it is the best device for me. That's all that matters. Go to att and spend atleast 20 minutes with each phone you are considering. Find the phone that feels right for you. I have fat fingers so the bigger screen, light weight and community support is nice. The LG thrill has that 3d wow factor nut honestly 6 hours of battery life and froyo was awful. IPhone is nice and heavy and glass which can equal disaster if dropped. Just remember you need to jailbreak the ios to do what android can do out of the box.
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I have owned the iPhone 3g, 3gs, and 4 as well as the Motorola Atrix. It is hard to compare the iPhone to Android, yes they both are smartphone OS's but are so different with how they work. I still do love my iPhone 4 at times do to its simplicity and UI( as well as vast amount of accessories ), but android is so much more tweakable and you can truly customize it to your liking. With all that being said, i really do love this phone. It is a beauty very fast and all around beast. When ICS comes out i really do not see how anyone can pick an iPhone over this.
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I have owned the iPhone 3g, 3gs, and 4 as well as the Motorola Atrix. It is hard to compare the iPhone to Android, yes they both are smartphone OS's but are so different with how they work. I still do love my iPhone 4 at times do to its simplicity and UI( as well as vast amount of accessories ), but android is so much more tweakable and you can truly customize it to your liking. With all that being said, i really do love this phone. It is a beauty very fast and all around beast. When ICS comes out i really do not see how anyone can pick an iPhone over this.
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I still don't understand "simplicity" thing with iStuff. Non-standard usb cables are simple? Inability to just drag and drop content on/off PC is simple? Cluttered home screens are, simple?
One word. Superepicnessfullblast phone
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I had my captivate for over a year and actually hated it. I love android by the cappy was just a terrible piece is hardware and was nearly unusable until I discovered xda. Even after flashing to different roms it wasn't as smooth as I liked. I was hestitant to buy a samsung phone again but I am sure glad I have them another chance. The SGSII is the perfect phone to run android. I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
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How's the cell reception? Too many times my son's iP4 has at least some reception and my Captivate has none. I've tried different modems to no avail.
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Upgraded to this phone from the Iphone 4 and have no regrets at all.
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How's the cell reception? Too many times my son's iP4 has at least some reception and my Captivate has none. I've tried different modems to no avail.
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degenerazn said:
I had my captivate for over a year and actually hated it. I love android by the cappy was just a terrible piece is hardware and was nearly unusable until I discovered xda. Even after flashing to different roms it wasn't as smooth as I liked. I was hestitant to buy a samsung phone again but I am sure glad I have them another chance. The SGSII is the perfect phone to run android. I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
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ATT butchered the hell out of S to make Cappy, I'm kinda not surprised there...
I really enjoy the GS2. It's is far superior to the Captivate I had before and even more so over the Tilt2 I had before that.

Why are I phones so popular?

There ****ing ****e!
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they may not have the best hardware.......but to be simple
the Simplicity of the I-phone is unmatched and there for super EASY to use.
my family are i-phone users, when i hand them my phone......they have problems even navigating the pages and widgets. the I-Phone is a Toy refference could not be anymore true, there just simple devices for simple people ( not calling people simpletons ) just saying.
I couldnt agree more. For people who want a Easy to use phone that is not too ****.
Apple are just not for the most clever people. There very unsociable. I mean no sdcard? U have to buy a new phone to get more memory. No flash player? Glad I've never had one. Good for casual users of jus texting and facebook. What's the iphone's capabilities when jail broken?
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Mostly status related, it looks premium and it feels premium and it `s expensive. The hardware though isn`t premium (anymore).
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they may not have the best hardware.......but to be simple
the Simplicity of the I-phone is unmatched and there for super EASY to use.
my family are i-phone users, when i hand them my phone......they have problems even navigating the pages and widgets. the I-Phone is a Toy refference could not be anymore true, there just simple devices for simple people ( not calling people simpletons ) just saying.
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Download Kytephone from market. Then they'll like it. Hahahaha.....
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As said, simplicity is the key to success for apple. They LIVE the KISS principle of engineering (keep it simple, Sidney)
However simplicity has the drawback of not allowing you to customize your phone or do anything that the designers didn't include.
Apple: You don't like their keyboard? Too bad....
Android: You don't like their keyboard? Well go to the freakin' Play Store and pick the one you prefer
However....
Android: A new version has been released? Too bad, buy a new device which comes with it. No official upgrade
Appe: You still have that old 3GS? No problem, here's the update.
(I'm not including CM9/AOSP/AOKP/... since most people are still running stock)
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However....
Android: A new version has been released? Too bad, buy a new device which comes with it. No official upgrade
Appe: You still have that old 3GS? No problem, here's the update.
(I'm not including CM9/AOSP/AOKP/... since most people are still running stock)
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Anyone running stock GB or now even ICS may as well have a iPhone. Jb is just awesome! Well the preview anyway..
Are iOS updates even significantly updated. I mean.. my missus has a 4s. I update for her and don't seem to change much.. although I very rarely use it. And she very rarely pays attention hah
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Anyone running stock GB or now even ICS may as well have a iPhone.
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OK I take that back lol but android is truly groundbreaking stuff. Big thanks to Google.
Anyone running stock GB or now even ICS may as well have a iPhone.
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Gingerbread is a halfway decent Rom, so lower-powered devices can use it without problems.
The issue is that a lot of devices (newer than the iPhone 3GS!) are around and still running on Android 1.5 or 1.6
Even if they got updated to 2.1 it still sucks...
The manufacturers simply have no incentive to upgrade their devices since they don't control the Play Store as Apple does with the Market.
So can we expect only one or two updates per model? Excluding Google handsets?
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Because IOS is simple and people pay extra to be lazy, and owning an Apple product is kinda like owning a supercar because you like to show people that you got money to burn.
what apple do is design some fantastic products and get there brand up there with the likes of prada and ferrar,making it desirable to own....
then they control everything you do with there devices...my son has a ipad looks fantastic and made to the best standards but apple own there product not the person who bought it...i would never buy a apple product...
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... What's the iphone's capabilities when jail broken?
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I used to have the iPhone and only recently switched to the GS3 as my first ever android device :good:
The iphones capabilities when jailbroken are not too bad, but nowhere near as good as what a stock android can do. Only downside is that you have to jailbreak first, which means waiting for the dev teams to exploit the firmware and release a packaged tool for each new firmware update.
So can we expect only one or two updates per model? Excluding Google handsets?
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Samsung releases 2 upgrades if the next firmware is around the corner when the device is released (as was the case with the S1 and now the S3)
Otherwise you're stuck with 1 upgrade.
Of course that's only the official ROM's. Many people here don't stick around very long on Original ROM's unless it's for warranty claims.
The S1 -despite claims by Samsung that it's hardware is not powerful enough- has an excellent flawless CM9 support and has the first Preview-version of Jellybean released. That will give it inofficial upgrades from the original 2.1 (Eclair) it shipped with over 2.2 (Froyo), 2.3 (Gingerbread), 4.0 (ICS) up to 4.1 (Jelly bean) and possibly counting.
And guess what... despite manufacturer's claims that Wifi Direct needed special hardware the S1 got it too in a CM9 update.
There's also a very functional inofficial CM9-build for low-powered devices such as Galaxy Ace, Gio, Mini, ... which only feature 256MB Ram. And that despite claims by (some) hardware manufacturers that ICS would under no conditions be able to run on anything below 1GB Ram.
In other words; you're stuck with old releases only if you don't know about Cyanogenmod or simply don't care.
(Of course there are other builds such as "real" AOSP, the AOKP, ... but CM9 gives the most bang for your device with all the nifty features they added.
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Because IOS is simple and people pay extra to be lazy, and owning an Apple product is kinda like owning a supercar because you like to show people that you got money to burn.
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supercar with cheap parts ?
supercar with cheap parts ?
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It's like the Farradi Farfall. Looks nice from the outside, but once you're actually inside it's meh...
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/Gallery-Fahrradi-Farfall-FFX-2012-05-09?imageNo=2
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I guess that makes iPhone the Corvette of the phone world.
The same reason why people don't know what building 7 was. Sheep....
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Don't get me wrong I love android but the iPhone built quality is top, my son has the iPhone 4 never a problem with lag, screen issues, camera, it's very smooth, now the other hand,I like to custom my phone that's why I think android is top, but a lot of people don't care about that and that's why people choose the iPhone, and the reason I'm saying quality is every android phone I ever had after 4 months I had to send it in for some kind of problems every iPhone user that I know I just know 10 never compliant,except for battery life, but do far my gs3 is holding out great!I have had no problems at all
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My personal opinion is that, while both Iphones and Droids are perfectly able to be used straight out of the box, Iphones require the least setting up out of the two. If users who have/had Iphones wanted to set up their phones exactly how they want it, android provides more room to do so.
Simply put, if you just want a phone that is "Good" and requires little to no setup, Iphone is for you. If you like the thought of almost fully customizing your experience on your handset, then android is for you.
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Don't get me wrong I love android but the iPhone built quality is top, my son has the iPhone 4 never a problem with lag, screen issues, camera, it's very smooth, now the other hand,I like to custom my phone that's why I think android is top, but a lot of people don't care about that and that's why people choose the iPhone, and the reason I'm saying quality is every android phone I ever had after 4 months I had to send it in for some kind of problems every iPhone user that I know I just know 10 never compliant,except for battery life, but do far my gs3 is holding out great!I have had no problems at all
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I agree that the iphone looks and feels very smooth, but you have to remember that there is only one hardware set for the iphone(insert model here) and that their OS is built and tuned towards that hardware alone, whereas there are how many different android devices with different hardware specs currently running stock ICS out of the box?
A simple way to look at it is this. Look at how many cases there are for the Iphone, and then look at how many there are for a specific android device.

DNA vs iPhone 5

I'm sure this has been asked a million times but I'll add one more. Has anyone had the privilege of using both devices? Which would you choose and why? I understand this is the DNA forums and I have also asked on the iPhone forums around and have gotten mixed reviews everywhere. Opinions are nice if you don't mind sharing. Thanks ahead of time.
They both have their perks. I've always been an Android guy, but I don't hate on iOS like most others here. I have an iPad and I love it.
The iPhone 5 is a really solid device. It's simple, and some people like that. The battery life is definitely better. I feel like I spend half my time on my phone trying to find out what's keeping it from going into deep sleep, etc. Also, the menu button at the bottom of a lot of apps is really annoying (I have a ROM that lets me remap it, but I'm talking about stock devices here). I feel like that would be unacceptable on an iOS device. The messaging app is my last annoyance, as it redraws so damn much. I was watching my friend with the iPhone 5 in class the other day and her messaging app is fast as hell and never redraws.
That being said, I wouldn't trade my DNA for an iPhone 5. It has its quirks, but I love it. I love the big, beautiful screen (I think the size of the i5 is just really awkward). I love being able to customize my phone, and I love having more than just a static grid for home screens.
I just signed up with Verizon I've always been a android person held both phones in my hand iPhone 5 didn't like the size camera to me wasn't impressive and I just don't like the os much and the icons I know it could be jail broken but I'm so happy with the DNA beautiful phone
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My iPhone friends are jealous or me with my DNA. So many features we have that they can't do.
iPhones suck. I had one for 2.5 years. Never again.
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If you already have an ipad don't get an iPhone, it is almost exactly the same thing.
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Can't decide..

I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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HTC Droid DNA has been a VERY solid phone for me. I'd choose DNA over iPhone 5 any day.
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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do you like customization? do you like a full 1080p high Def screen? do you like a quad core processor with 2 gigs of ram?
the phones you had, well, sucked. they were very low end android phones. the Lucid is terrible lol we used to sell that.. made me a huge profit but I hated selling it. the xperia was meh. the dna is a premium high end device.
people with iPhones "don't have issues" because you can't do everything on them you can on an Android. for example, people don't complain about errors or force closing on iPhones because when an app force closes, they don't tell you it's performed an error. it just backs out to the home screen, ans doesn't tell you why. most people think "oh just a small glitch, I'll uninstall and reinstall the app..." and then it's fixed.
believe me, when I worked at Verizon, I saw more idiots with iPhones with problems than I thought could possibly exist. I couldn't believe that many people didn't even know how to use an iPhone. good god.
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No one can really decide for you, but my friend got the iPhone 5 coming from a droid razr and then I got my dna and let him use it and he wished that he stayed with android. What are you looking to do on your phone. The droid dna can do just about everything. Where as the iPhone 5 doesn't have some features the dna has. The specs aren't really even comparable in my opinion, the dna beats all of the iPhone.
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I carry both of them if there's anything you're wondering about just send me a PM.
My general rule of thumb is if you plan to jailbreak your iPhone don't bother with an iPhone and get an Android. And if that's the case the DNA is the first phone I've used to take iPhones out of some long time iDevice family members hands.
If you say to yourself you are 100 percent satisfied with an iPhone out of the box and just want something that doesnt need to be customized or anything, then it's something you might want to consider.
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I can't decide if I want a DNA or iPhone 5. I have my upgrade may 1. I have owned 2 android phones that both have given me issues ( xperia play and LG Lucid. ) I have experienced multiple issues on both android devices therefore it makes me nervous about getting another android device. IPhones on the other hand, my friends have had very few issues, unless dropped but of course I would keep a case on my iPhone. Could you guys help me decide?
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Its a tough call I really I like them both. That said if it was me I would wait it out and look at the HTC One and the iPhone 5S and see which one I like better. If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen and iOS 7 gets a overhaul it maybe a tough call. Despite what the android guys says (most have actually never owned the iPhone 5 (I have)) its a really solid device. Issue is its boring you can't do a lot with it. I like to tinker but to be honest even that gets boring after a while. So if you want something that without a doubt is going to work almost 100% of the time AND you like getting updates for your device on a regular bases then the iPhone is a clear winner. Its fast and it works.
One more thing what HTC has done to Sense 5 I might as well go back to the iPhone. The new Sense brings nothing to the table for me.
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Its a tough call I really I like them both. That said if it was me I would wait it out and look at the HTC One and the iPhone 5S and see which one I like better. If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen and iOS 7 gets a overhaul it maybe a tough call. Despite what the android guys says (most have actually never owned the iPhone 5 (I have)) its a really solid device. Issue is its boring you can't do a lot with it. I like to tinker but to be honest even that gets boring after a while. So if you want something that without a doubt is going to work almost 100% of the time AND you like getting updates for your device on a regular bases then the iPhone is a clear winner. Its fast and it works.
One more thing what HTC has done to Sense 5 I might as well go back to the iPhone. The new Sense brings nothing to the table for me.
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The great thing about android is if you want a different look then you change it to what you want. There are very few reported issues as far as software go with android is concerned since the era of jellybean. Android biggest issue is the different hardware that is has to be optimized for. Dna stock is really refined but I for one like to change things up at min once a week. We can't tell you what to chose but if choice is an issue then android is your best bet because you can make it perform like any phone you want.
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The iPhone is a solid choice simply because it's so tightly controlled there is very little that can go wrong with it. The LTE is fast, processor and memory are very capable for the OS, battery is good, and everyone who releases an app makes it for the iPhone....usually first.
That being said, and I've been on both sides of the fence, I personally prefer Android devices. Two things keep me away from iOS. First is the screen size. Showing my age here, but I'm pushing 40 and a 3.5-4" screen really doesn't do it for me anymore. Especially after using things which are so easy on the eyes in the 4.3-5" range; it's difficult to get used to an iPhone size again. At the present I'm using a DNA for a few major reasons, namely the display is gorgeous, build quality is fantastic, and the open/customizable nature of Android gives me freedom that an iPhone never will. One thing that kind of surprised me after going to the DNA was that I find myself actually surfing the web on this phone. With the iPhone's cramped screen, surfing the web is do-able, but almost pointless - you'd be much better off on a desktop. However web page rendering on the DNA with the much larger screen, is actually very capable of basic surfing/checking news, etc. I go to my desktop less, especially when I'm working in my lab and need a quick lookup on something; I go to the DNA. iOS itself is very restrictive compared to Android.
My suggestion - if you mainly use a phone for phone calls, text, and apps, then go for an iPhone. If you spend time surfing the web, doing some customizing or tinkering with the innards, as well as calling and texting, go with the DNA. To be honest you can't really go wrong either way; they're just different.
Good luck with your decision, and hopefully we'll see you around these forums after your final decision.
I had a difficult time making that decision as well when I had upgraded a month ago (from a thunderbolt), although the whole integration thing was appealing with the iphone (have an ipad already, plus other family members have iphones), I had decided to go with the dna instead because of the ability to tinker with it and such, enjoy doing that sort of stuff
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The iPhone is a solid choice simply because it's so tightly controlled there is very little that can go wrong with it. The LTE is fast, processor and memory are very capable for the OS, battery is good, and everyone who releases an app makes it for the iPhone....usually first.
That being said, and I've been on both sides of the fence, I personally prefer Android devices. Two things keep me away from iOS. First is the screen size. Showing my age here, but I'm pushing 40 and a 3.5-4" screen really doesn't do it for me anymore. Especially after using things which are so easy on the eyes in the 4.3-5" range; it's difficult to get used to an iPhone size again. At the present I'm using a DNA for a few major reasons, namely the display is gorgeous, build quality is fantastic, and the open/customizable nature of Android gives me freedom that an iPhone never will. One thing that kind of surprised me after going to the DNA was that I find myself actually surfing the web on this phone. With the iPhone's cramped screen, surfing the web is do-able, but almost pointless - you'd be much better off on a desktop. However web page rendering on the DNA with the much larger screen, is actually very capable of basic surfing/checking news, etc. I go to my desktop less, especially when I'm working in my lab and need a quick lookup on something; I go to the DNA. iOS itself is very restrictive compared to Android.
My suggestion - if you mainly use a phone for phone calls, text, and apps, then go for an iPhone. If you spend time surfing the web, doing some customizing or tinkering with the innards, as well as calling and texting, go with the DNA. To be honest you can't really go wrong either way; they're just different.
Good luck with your decision, and hopefully we'll see you around these forums after your final decision.
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The thing is though.... you can do that all on the DNA. I would say the DNA on stock is a very stable capable phone and Sense imho looks brilliant over iOS.
I agree though, most apps do come out on the iPhone first due to the platform being more stable and easier to dev for in the beginning.... We'll probably see that change over the course of time with JB and onward though.
I agree with everything said here. It was really a tough for me to decide especially since I use Mac computers, iPad, Apple TV, Time Capsule, etc.. but on android you can flash stuff and try different things if you want too. Its nice having that ability. When I had the iPhone I found myself a little board. I didn't have anything to develop, and everything I had learned to do on android seem to be going to waste.
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If the iPhone 5S comes with a 4+ inch screen
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But then your thumb can't reach all corners of the phone's screen!!
It amazes me when people mention that in reviews of devices, especially when it's a 5 ft guy reviewing it [usually small hands to begin with]. It's neither a pro nor con that's worth mentioning imo
Sarcasm aside, it would be interesting to see Apple come out with a 4+ in screen especially after watching some of their advertisements and events.
All I know is I got my girlfriend the iPhone5 when I bought my DNA and she has more problems than I do.
The only time i've had ANY issue on my DNA is when I screw something up myself from a mod or ROM that I knew was wonky.
My girlfriend on the other hand? Her favorite comment is "I guess i'm done with [insert name of the app that just force closed here" because her iPhone will force close anything from Facebook to the built in camera app.
It makes me laugh because i've always wondered if i'd be happier with an iPhone but I never pulled the trigger and now I know i'll be sticking with Android for the near future at the very least.
Also, her battery life is only slightly better than mine. By 6PM i'm usually sitting around 80% (I don't use my phone much during the day and I have a wireless charger it's on occasionally) but she always has to charge her phone before we go out for the night and I don't.
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All I know is I got my girlfriend the iPhone5 when I bought my DNA and she has more problems than I do.
The only time i've had ANY issue on my DNA is when I screw something up myself from a mod or ROM that I knew was wonky.
My girlfriend on the other hand? Her favorite comment is "I guess i'm done with [insert name of the app that just force closed here" because her iPhone will force close anything from Facebook to the built in camera app.
It makes me laugh because i've always wondered if i'd be happier with an iPhone but I never pulled the trigger and now I know i'll be sticking with Android for the near future at the very least.
Also, her battery life is only slightly better than mine. By 6PM i'm usually sitting around 80% (I don't use my phone much during the day and I have a wireless charger it's on occasionally) but she always has to charge her phone before we go out for the night and I don't.
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I'd like to start by saying that I love my DNA its a great device. That said I never had any of those issues on my iPhone 5 none.. also the battery life on mine was kick as$ I could go two days without charging it. Sounds kind of like she needs a hard reset.
My personal opinion is that you should def. get the DNA. In general, if you're going to choose a low grade Android or an iPhone I would recommend the iPhone. I would; however, recommend that a person spend a little bit of money and get a high end Android phone every time. It is well worth the $100-$150 to for a 2 year investment. If it makes you feel better break it down by month. If you do that's about $6.25/month for a completely awesome phone.
I think im sold to the DNA.. about 20 days and I can own one!
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I carry both of them if there's anything you're wondering about just send me a PM.
My general rule of thumb is if you plan to jailbreak your iPhone don't bother with an iPhone and get an Android. And if that's the case the DNA is the first phone I've used to take iPhones out of some long time iDevice family members hands.
If you say to yourself you are 100 percent satisfied with an iPhone out of the box and just want something that doesnt need to be customized or anything, then it's something you might want to consider.
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I agree with this. Both devices are capable of doing whatever you need. However, you are limited to what you can do with and without jailbreak on iOS. For example, I didn't like the HTC sense look but don't have root yet so I installed nova launcher... You can't do that on iOS. Don't like lock screen? You can change without root on Android. So on... But at the same time I would keep stock on iOS cause the other stuff doesn't look good in my opinion. (i like stock. That's why I want root for cm 10.1). Ask yourself what you are looking for and ask yourself if you are bored of iOS or bored of Android?
I recommend the DNA because I like the hardware and android, but don't let me pick for you. ^_^ (keep in mind there isn't a root for the DNA right now if you have ota so if it's not out by when you get it, you'll have to pay for jtag or use sense )
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I'd like to start by saying that I love my DNA its a great device. That said I never had any of those issues on my iPhone 5 none.. also the battery life on mine was kick as$ I could go two days without charging it. Sounds kind of like she needs a hard reset.
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She says the apps that force close are "known issues" and listed in the apps reviews.
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What I love about android is that I can change anything I want. If I want to I can:
change the lock screen
add widgets
change launcher
change icons
remove unwanted applications
save email attachments
change file associants (make chrome your default web browser)
ringtone trimmer set any mp3 as a ringer
set any image as a wallpaper
much, much, more..
thats the stuff that sells me.
DNA is awesome fast Quad-core CPU, Adreno 320 GPU, 1080P Display, NFC, Wireless Charging. . . 2GB RAM. Its awesome.
If he wants to tinker with it he will have to wait until the new firmware is unlockable, or he can jtag it.

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