There ****ing ****e!
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they may not have the best hardware.......but to be simple
the Simplicity of the I-phone is unmatched and there for super EASY to use.
my family are i-phone users, when i hand them my phone......they have problems even navigating the pages and widgets. the I-Phone is a Toy refference could not be anymore true, there just simple devices for simple people ( not calling people simpletons ) just saying.
I couldnt agree more. For people who want a Easy to use phone that is not too ****.
Apple are just not for the most clever people. There very unsociable. I mean no sdcard? U have to buy a new phone to get more memory. No flash player? Glad I've never had one. Good for casual users of jus texting and facebook. What's the iphone's capabilities when jail broken?
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Mostly status related, it looks premium and it feels premium and it `s expensive. The hardware though isn`t premium (anymore).
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they may not have the best hardware.......but to be simple
the Simplicity of the I-phone is unmatched and there for super EASY to use.
my family are i-phone users, when i hand them my phone......they have problems even navigating the pages and widgets. the I-Phone is a Toy refference could not be anymore true, there just simple devices for simple people ( not calling people simpletons ) just saying.
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Download Kytephone from market. Then they'll like it. Hahahaha.....
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As said, simplicity is the key to success for apple. They LIVE the KISS principle of engineering (keep it simple, Sidney)
However simplicity has the drawback of not allowing you to customize your phone or do anything that the designers didn't include.
Apple: You don't like their keyboard? Too bad....
Android: You don't like their keyboard? Well go to the freakin' Play Store and pick the one you prefer
However....
Android: A new version has been released? Too bad, buy a new device which comes with it. No official upgrade
Appe: You still have that old 3GS? No problem, here's the update.
(I'm not including CM9/AOSP/AOKP/... since most people are still running stock)
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However....
Android: A new version has been released? Too bad, buy a new device which comes with it. No official upgrade
Appe: You still have that old 3GS? No problem, here's the update.
(I'm not including CM9/AOSP/AOKP/... since most people are still running stock)
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Anyone running stock GB or now even ICS may as well have a iPhone. Jb is just awesome! Well the preview anyway..
Are iOS updates even significantly updated. I mean.. my missus has a 4s. I update for her and don't seem to change much.. although I very rarely use it. And she very rarely pays attention hah
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Anyone running stock GB or now even ICS may as well have a iPhone.
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OK I take that back lol but android is truly groundbreaking stuff. Big thanks to Google.
Anyone running stock GB or now even ICS may as well have a iPhone.
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Gingerbread is a halfway decent Rom, so lower-powered devices can use it without problems.
The issue is that a lot of devices (newer than the iPhone 3GS!) are around and still running on Android 1.5 or 1.6
Even if they got updated to 2.1 it still sucks...
The manufacturers simply have no incentive to upgrade their devices since they don't control the Play Store as Apple does with the Market.
So can we expect only one or two updates per model? Excluding Google handsets?
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Because IOS is simple and people pay extra to be lazy, and owning an Apple product is kinda like owning a supercar because you like to show people that you got money to burn.
what apple do is design some fantastic products and get there brand up there with the likes of prada and ferrar,making it desirable to own....
then they control everything you do with there devices...my son has a ipad looks fantastic and made to the best standards but apple own there product not the person who bought it...i would never buy a apple product...
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... What's the iphone's capabilities when jail broken?
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I used to have the iPhone and only recently switched to the GS3 as my first ever android device :good:
The iphones capabilities when jailbroken are not too bad, but nowhere near as good as what a stock android can do. Only downside is that you have to jailbreak first, which means waiting for the dev teams to exploit the firmware and release a packaged tool for each new firmware update.
So can we expect only one or two updates per model? Excluding Google handsets?
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Samsung releases 2 upgrades if the next firmware is around the corner when the device is released (as was the case with the S1 and now the S3)
Otherwise you're stuck with 1 upgrade.
Of course that's only the official ROM's. Many people here don't stick around very long on Original ROM's unless it's for warranty claims.
The S1 -despite claims by Samsung that it's hardware is not powerful enough- has an excellent flawless CM9 support and has the first Preview-version of Jellybean released. That will give it inofficial upgrades from the original 2.1 (Eclair) it shipped with over 2.2 (Froyo), 2.3 (Gingerbread), 4.0 (ICS) up to 4.1 (Jelly bean) and possibly counting.
And guess what... despite manufacturer's claims that Wifi Direct needed special hardware the S1 got it too in a CM9 update.
There's also a very functional inofficial CM9-build for low-powered devices such as Galaxy Ace, Gio, Mini, ... which only feature 256MB Ram. And that despite claims by (some) hardware manufacturers that ICS would under no conditions be able to run on anything below 1GB Ram.
In other words; you're stuck with old releases only if you don't know about Cyanogenmod or simply don't care.
(Of course there are other builds such as "real" AOSP, the AOKP, ... but CM9 gives the most bang for your device with all the nifty features they added.
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Because IOS is simple and people pay extra to be lazy, and owning an Apple product is kinda like owning a supercar because you like to show people that you got money to burn.
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supercar with cheap parts ?
supercar with cheap parts ?
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It's like the Farradi Farfall. Looks nice from the outside, but once you're actually inside it's meh...
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/Gallery-Fahrradi-Farfall-FFX-2012-05-09?imageNo=2
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I guess that makes iPhone the Corvette of the phone world.
The same reason why people don't know what building 7 was. Sheep....
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Don't get me wrong I love android but the iPhone built quality is top, my son has the iPhone 4 never a problem with lag, screen issues, camera, it's very smooth, now the other hand,I like to custom my phone that's why I think android is top, but a lot of people don't care about that and that's why people choose the iPhone, and the reason I'm saying quality is every android phone I ever had after 4 months I had to send it in for some kind of problems every iPhone user that I know I just know 10 never compliant,except for battery life, but do far my gs3 is holding out great!I have had no problems at all
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My personal opinion is that, while both Iphones and Droids are perfectly able to be used straight out of the box, Iphones require the least setting up out of the two. If users who have/had Iphones wanted to set up their phones exactly how they want it, android provides more room to do so.
Simply put, if you just want a phone that is "Good" and requires little to no setup, Iphone is for you. If you like the thought of almost fully customizing your experience on your handset, then android is for you.
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Don't get me wrong I love android but the iPhone built quality is top, my son has the iPhone 4 never a problem with lag, screen issues, camera, it's very smooth, now the other hand,I like to custom my phone that's why I think android is top, but a lot of people don't care about that and that's why people choose the iPhone, and the reason I'm saying quality is every android phone I ever had after 4 months I had to send it in for some kind of problems every iPhone user that I know I just know 10 never compliant,except for battery life, but do far my gs3 is holding out great!I have had no problems at all
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I agree that the iphone looks and feels very smooth, but you have to remember that there is only one hardware set for the iphone(insert model here) and that their OS is built and tuned towards that hardware alone, whereas there are how many different android devices with different hardware specs currently running stock ICS out of the box?
A simple way to look at it is this. Look at how many cases there are for the Iphone, and then look at how many there are for a specific android device.
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My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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I dunno whats wrong with it now? This thing makes an iphone look like a toy.
You got a leaked iphone 5 ? Wowzors
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My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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Coming from iPhone myself, I would say keep it keep it keep it! Even if the bootloader is never unlocked or circumnavigated it is still leaps and bounds over the iPhone 4.
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You got a leaked iphone 5 ? Wowzors
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Huh?
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My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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i prefer iphone just because i am tired of android
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My iPhone always works no problems on the other hand android frustrates the hell out of me at times. So I have dilemma should I wait for the unlocking the bootloader or sell it now.
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I would stay with the Atrix since the iPhone cannot match the reception of the Atrix, amongst a few other things.
Maybe ill keep it for awhile and see what happens to it in the future.
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We are very close at seeing custom roms with tenfars work. Id hold onto the Atrix, it really is the better phone. If we do see custom roms it will be blazing.
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We are very close at seeing custom roms with tenfars work. Id hold onto the Atrix, it really is the better phone. If we do see custom roms it will be blazing.
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What he said!
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i prefer iphone just because i am tired of android
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I prefer Android because ios is at the simplicity level for a 5 year old.
Its like a video game... Iphone is easy mode and android is hardcore mode
Iphone is easy to master fun to jump into and android you read forums and you gotta learn it. But when you master android you become a superuser and can honestly keep that new phone feel daily. My nexus felt new for a year and a half. My 3gs felt new for 3 months... My atrix feels like I'm in the future.
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The only thing I liked about iphone is that it got me to get into jail breaking.. Once that happened it was android destiny.
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Honestly I like the iphone- its aesthetically appealing in design and media, but the Atrix is a powerhouse in comparison. Comparable in graphics, the Atrix gives you more screen without being overly big like some other android phones such as the infuse.
It all comes down to the user. Are you a mac or pc guy? Its really that simple. If you're a pc guy, you wont regret the Atrix. I love it.
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I have both phones...I got the iPhone 4 and the Atrix on both of their respective release dates. Let's break it down:
Obviously, both iOS and Android have their proven advantages. Jailbroken iOS vs. rooted Atrix...it's a close call. One of the things I really love about iOS is the universality- in respects of apps and common accessories. It's always really convenient knowing where ever you go, someone is going to have an iPhone/iPod charger. And, one of the things I really love about Android is the open source feel and really just the amount of customization possible. Even with a jailbroken iPhone, Android is just simply more customizable. Software is a near tie, but I've got to give it to iOS because it really is just easier to do simple tasks quickly.
Hardware wise, both devices are pretty impressive. Since Apple is realeasing 1 device a year and Motorola is releasing approximately ~10, the build quality is going to be better on an iPhone. Really think about it- all the Android manufacturers are just getting as many phones as they can get out possible. The only device I feel is just completely solid all around, in every aspect, is the Nexus One/Nexus S, but obviously that's because Google itself has every say in every detail of the device. That being said, the build quality on the Atrix is still really good. If it didn't have such a horrible back/battery cover, it would be pretty even with the solid feeling you get when holding an iPhone. It'd also be nice to have some aluminum on the Atrix to make it feel a little more sturdy, and a better placement of the lock button would be nice since you can't unlock the device laying flat. But, the Atrix has 2 hardware advantages- screen size and overall reception. I consistently drop less calls and get better reception indoors with my Atrix than my iPhone. No surprise really, but it's the truth. And playing the games that are available on the Atrix are simply more entertaining because of the larger screen. I've got to give the hardware award to the iPhone too, but this is also a close call.
Of course, this is all my opinion, and even though I rotate which device I use almost daily, I do tend to pick my iPhone more often than not. I think both iOS and Android are amazing OS's, and Android really is a fun platform that's more capable out of the box, but the one and only thing that truly keeps me from using my Atrix as much as my iPhone 4 is the lack of apps. I'm a student, which means I use lots of apps/games on a daily basis, and the inability to have the same app as someone around while using my Atrix really is what keeps me from using it more. Aside from customization apps/Swype, I haven't once seen an app on Android that I wished iOS had. Any great app Android has is available on iOS (aside from the stock applications). But really, accounting for all of these things, it's what feels right for you. When people ask me which platform to get since I do have both, I say for 90% of people, iPhone's are the obvious choice, because most people that ask me that question obviously aren't tech savvy. But, that 10% does exist for tech savvy and power users. Asking myself and yourself that question is obviously much more difficult because we are both tech savvy and power users, otherwise you wouldn't be on XDA. There isn't a clear choice, but for me, if I had 1 choice I'd choose my iPhone and I wouldn't hesitate. Ask yourself that question, which one could you not live without? There's your answer.
I use my iphone 4 more often because I love the retina display and the games are way better. Android is slowly dieing, too many phones are using android os and its killing itself from the market I'm very lucky I traded my atrix for an ipad 64gb and 200 bucks so no more android for me. Android Facebook app needs alot of work . It comes down too if u want to keep flashing shiity roms. Choose android or if u want a phone that works pick up a iPhone 4.
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I use my iphone 4 more often because I love the retina display and the games are way better. Android is slowly dieing, too many phones are using android os and its killing itself from the market I'm very lucky I traded my atrix for an ipad 64gb and 200 bucks so no more android for me. Android Facebook app needs alot of work . It comes down too if u want to keep flashing shiity roms. Choose android or if u want a phone that works pick up a iPhone 4.
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Only question left is why are you on xda then troll
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Its like a video game... Iphone is easy mode and android is hardcore mode
Iphone is easy to master fun to jump into and android you read forums and you gotta learn it. But when you master android you become a superuser and can honestly keep that new phone feel daily. My nexus felt new for a year and a half. My 3gs felt new for 3 months... My atrix feels like I'm in the future.
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I am in complete agreement for once! LOL
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fwdkiller said:
I use my iphone 4 more often because I love the retina display and the games are way better. Android is slowly dieing, too many phones are using android os and its killing itself from the market I'm very lucky I traded my atrix for an ipad 64gb and 200 bucks so no more android for me. Android Facebook app needs alot of work . It comes down too if u want to keep flashing shiity roms. Choose android or if u want a phone that works pick up a iPhone 4.
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Make sure you hold the way Apple wants you to, so you don't drop any calls. Also you basically paid $700 dollars on a used iPad. Congrats
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I use my iphone 4 more often because I love the retina display and the games are way better. Android is slowly dieing, too many phones are using android os and its killing itself from the market I'm very lucky I traded my atrix for an ipad 64gb and 200 bucks so no more android for me. Android Facebook app needs alot of work . It comes down too if u want to keep flashing shiity roms. Choose android or if u want a phone that works pick up a iPhone 4.
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I hardly think Android is dying (or dieing as you called it). It is growing faster than anticipated and predicted.
Nothing wrong with an Apple product and I own and love my Macbook. I played with the iPhone and never wanted one.
My reply to the OP is if you want a phone that does most everything that an iPhone does and yet be able to make phone calls and not drop connection, then for sure go with the Atrix.
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I have both phones...I got the iPhone 4 and the Atrix on both of their respective release dates. Let's break it down:
Obviously, both iOS and Android have their proven advantages. Jailbroken iOS vs. rooted Atrix...it's a close call. One of the things I really love about iOS is the universality- in respects of apps and common accessories. It's always really convenient knowing where ever you go, someone is going to have an iPhone/iPod charger. And, one of the things I really love about Android is the open source feel and really just the amount of customization possible. Even with a jailbroken iPhone, Android is just simply more customizable. Software is a near tie, but I've got to give it to iOS because it really is just easier to do simple tasks quickly.
Hardware wise, both devices are pretty impressive. Since Apple is realeasing 1 device a year and Motorola is releasing approximately ~10, the build quality is going to be better on an iPhone. Really think about it- all the Android manufacturers are just getting as many phones as they can get out possible. The only device I feel is just completely solid all around, in every aspect, is the Nexus One/Nexus S, but obviously that's because Google itself has every say in every detail of the device. That being said, the build quality on the Atrix is still really good. If it didn't have such a horrible back/battery cover, it would be pretty even with the solid feeling you get when holding an iPhone. It'd also be nice to have some aluminum on the Atrix to make it feel a little more sturdy, and a better placement of the lock button would be nice since you can't unlock the device laying flat. But, the Atrix has 2 hardware advantages- screen size and overall reception. I consistently drop less calls and get better reception indoors with my Atrix than my iPhone. No surprise really, but it's the truth. And playing the games that are available on the Atrix are simply more entertaining because of the larger screen. I've got to give the hardware award to the iPhone too, but this is also a close call.
Of course, this is all my opinion, and even though I rotate which device I use almost daily, I do tend to pick my iPhone more often than not. I think both iOS and Android are amazing OS's, and Android really is a fun platform that's more capable out of the box, but the one and only thing that truly keeps me from using my Atrix as much as my iPhone 4 is the lack of apps. I'm a student, which means I use lots of apps/games on a daily basis, and the inability to have the same app as someone around while using my Atrix really is what keeps me from using it more. Aside from customization apps/Swype, I haven't once seen an app on Android that I wished iOS had. Any great app Android has is available on iOS (aside from the stock applications). But really, accounting for all of these things, it's what feels right for you. When people ask me which platform to get since I do have both, I say for 90% of people, iPhone's are the obvious choice, because most people that ask me that question obviously aren't tech savvy. But, that 10% does exist for tech savvy and power users. Asking myself and yourself that question is obviously much more difficult because we are both tech savvy and power users, otherwise you wouldn't be on XDA. There isn't a clear choice, but for me, if I had 1 choice I'd choose my iPhone and I wouldn't hesitate. Ask yourself that question, which one could you not live without? There's your answer.
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I agree but My iphone gets the same reception as the Atrix. Seems like a few Android apps do need a little more brushing up(facebook, scorecenter for example).
Iphone apps? LoL don't make me laugh.. You don't have emulators... Flash..
Do they even have the new maps? I think the best iphone apps I had were google apps... **** if you liked tinkering with iphone it was a clear step to android.
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Do you think it is a bad decision to choose iphone 4 over Samsung galaxy2/arc.I know someone close who is going to do this .He said android is good but iphone games and apps are better.
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Do you think it is a bad decision to choose iphone 4 over Samsung galaxy2/arc.I know someone close who is going to do this .He said android is good but iphone games and apps are better.
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If he needs a phone for games then just go buy and xperia play...
OT. If he is going to buy and iOS devices then just wait for iPhone 5. it will be a little more like android ( will have that notification bar that you can drag and alot more features like android has )...
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Do you think it is a bad decision to choose iphone 4 over Samsung galaxy2/arc.I know someone close who is going to do this .He said android is good but iphone games and apps are better.
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He isn't from NAG forums by any chance?
If you took my guess.. NO
iOS = Closed source ****.
Android = Open source bliss.
If your a noobie get a iPhone
If your 1337 get a Droid.
if you want a phone that works outta the box get an iphone.
if you want a phone that offers great versatility and customization, get an android phone.
+1. apple reminds me of clique mums when i do the school run!!
@Omega.. 1337??
@OT tell yr friend to make the decision based on fact
1) apple are amazing, simultaneously sweet and sour
2) Android has more potential due to open source
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@Omega.. 1337??
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You should get an iPhone ;-)
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naa, i'd keep a tweaked 2.1 x10 over IP4 anyday!!
just cos i don't know what 1337 was all about does not make me gullible, perhaps naive!!!
Edit 1: now 1337 is bothering my tiny mind
Edit 2: Ok, got it - thanks Lord T, your elitism lead me to knowledge, I'm no hacker so didn't get the point (although i pat myself on the back as i was already trying to work out what ACCG could mean - wasn't too far wrong, not bad for a nnooobish type - perhaps i'll buy an Iphone now)
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1337 = Leet = Elite
Well, I'm an Android user since more than one year, and I have just bought an iPad 2 for extended computer experience while in mobility. I like Android, but I must admit than iOS offers a different experience that is really excellent. No lags at all, no reason to be worried to crack your software platform to be able to install software to apply performance tweak, all is already optimized for you. Obviously if you like to mod your software Android is much better, but regarding performance, graphics and fluidity in my very personal opinion iOS on iDevices will simply fly! And with Jailbreak no limitations at all xD
but I continue to love Android too, of course
Ios jailbreak = stock android
Rooted android= the is no such ios modification that can come close
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If you want an 'idiot's OS', and a device that is made for Steve Jobs, then iOS is the one for you. It just works.
If you want to tinker around and have fun and make the device YOURS, then get Android.
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If you want an 'idiot's OS', and a device that is made for Steve Jobs, then iOS is the one for you. It just works.
If you want to tinker around and have fun and make the device YOURS, then get Android.
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Noob?
Just get any, they are all the same, don't listen to any of this open source bullcrap everyone keeps blurting, Google love using that as a selling point, when in fact they don't care about source they just want hold of as much ad space as possible on a given market
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Noob?
Just get any, they are all the same, don't listen to any of this open source bullcrap everyone keeps blurting, Google love using that as a selling point, when in fact they don't care about source they just want hold of as much ad space as possible on a given market
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google love using it as a selling point...because maybe it is THE selling point?
You're throwing around 'open source' as if it means nothing, when...umm...it does?
It's not 'bullcrap' if it is the main attraction of the OS, and works extremely well.
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If you want an 'idiot's OS', and a device that is made for Steve Jobs, then iOS is the one for you. It just works.
If you want to tinker around and have fun and make the device YOURS, then get Android.
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Pretty much agreed
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My sister got ipad.
When I use it, I am wondering where is the "back" button?
There is a reason why Windoze Fone 7 also has "back" button.
Once you get an iPad there's no going back
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Once you get an iPad there's no going back
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It's like an iReligion.
The only reason ios doesn't lag is because its such a simple yet dumbed down interface. Frankly, my family is split with 2 iPhones, 2 Androids and one Honeycomb tablet. For me, I would get bored of using an iPhone after a week. Changing the order of apps or changing the wallpaper is nothing compared to the customization options in android. Plus, who wants to jailbreak when Android users can root and have complete control?
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I was meant to upgrade last year, but held off to wait on the sgs4 (passed on the sgs3, stuck with my trusty sgs2). But was a little let down from what I've seen so far, from the photos it looks like a sgs3 (not a fan) but maybe in person it will be nice. So I tempted to jump ship for the htc one, started reading xda (As you do) and see posts saying the sgs4 might not get such great support from the usual suspects...that aint good.
So, if your reading this then you aint upgraded for similar reason no doubt...whats the plan? I mean, yeah I want those crazy specs, removable sd/battery...but stock roms and broken custom roms? Im seriously tempted on the htc one, however its a bit of a double edged sword, looks awesome, drop that **** and its ****ed. My sgs2 barely has a scratch.
Whats your thoughts sgs2 owners, Im still on ICS and not kept uptodate with the goings on here. I dont doubt there are awesome devs here, but if the major players dont take an intrest in the sgs4/exynos...its it doomed?
Do you wan't it just because you like to have last piece of tech and don't use even 5% of it..or you need it for better productivity in bussiness?
If first then i don't see a need for upgrade..
Dont get me wrong, I love gadgets, but i botched a screen replacement on my old hd2 (which is now my bros) so if I cant repair I will get a new one and give the sgs2 to my bro (sad to see the hd2 go tho). Anyway, Im more intrested on your thoughts if you were going to buy a new phone sgs4 or htc one? Like I said, Im not as into the whole modding thing as I used to (still like to flash custom roms tho), will the big guns not supporting the sgs4 make much diff? I would of thought so, but maybe there is talk on here?
Well i don't think i will get a new phone, but if it happenes it will definitely be either HTC One or Nexus 5..no need to give Samy money anymore..they have gone the Apple road
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Well i don't think i will get a new phone, but if it happenes it will definitely be either HTC One or Nexus 5..no need to give Samy money anymore..they have gone the Apple road
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Yup, it seems they try to much and forget the core aspects. Just saw this, not sure how true...maybe the uk will get the qualcomm after alll (still not sure if that will make a difference with CM)
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/03/samsung-galaxy-s4-quad-core-only-confirmed-for-the-uk/
What are the rest of your guys thoughts on the sgs4 vs htc one? I hate the thought of touchwiz for 18months, I would much rather vanilla android...but not sure about the htc one.
How about a nexus 4? I'm gonna check when Google i/o is. Should give a good idea of when the next nexus is out.
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My S2 contract is up next month and before its release I always planned to upgrade to an S4, however since the S4 launch I have decided to go for the HTC One.
I think the S2 , especially with jelly bean is still a great device but I will pass it on to my son to replace his rubbish galaxy ace, the S3 I think will be Samsungs peak device, the S4 seems to be more of the same, meh, no real innovations on the hardware side but lots of new and gimmicky touchwizz features. I feel as already mentioned by an earlier poster, that this feels a little Apple like...... buy our phone because it's a Samsung and because lots of other people buy it..... rather than....buy it because it's a great phone...
There are, to varying degrees, innovations on BlackBerry z10 (The hub and gestures), Nokia Lumia 920 , (baked in funtionality, low light camera and the live tiles of WP8) and The HTC One (gorgeous design, Zoe, Blinkfeed, ultra pixel camera) all that interest me as an enthusiast/nerd that the S4 just doesn't seem to have.
The Z10 looks great but it's to early in its life for me to spend 2 years without so many essential apps that may or may not arrive on the device. Android has really matured with jelly bean and so for me it is the HTC One
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Seriously S IV probably dosent need any custom ROM. It rocks as it is , stock. We on the S II need and want all this custom ROMs / kernels because we want that extra power and smoothness. No need to worry about developers not suporting it , in my opinion.
Now if you have money to spend buy the octo core one and be sure that at least two years you wont think about another upgrade.
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I was meant to upgrade last year, but held off to wait on the sgs4 (passed on the sgs3, stuck with my trusty sgs2). But was a little let down from what I've seen so far, from the photos it looks like a sgs3 (not a fan) but maybe in person it will be nice. So I tempted to jump ship for the htc one, started reading xda (As you do) and see posts saying the sgs4 might not get such great support from the usual suspects...that aint good.
So, if your reading this then you aint upgraded for similar reason no doubt...whats the plan? I mean, yeah I want those crazy specs, removable sd/battery...but stock roms and broken custom roms? Im seriously tempted on the htc one, however its a bit of a double edged sword, looks awesome, drop that **** and its ****ed. My sgs2 barely has a scratch.
Whats your thoughts sgs2 owners, Im still on ICS and not kept uptodate with the goings on here. I dont doubt there are awesome devs here, but if the major players dont take an intrest in the sgs4/exynos...its it doomed?
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if you are ok with your ver now, dont do it.
I'm of a similar opinion, S2 running well but if I can get a deal I'll upgrade. Torn between S4 and xperia Z. S2 was my first smart phone and I do like TW but I hear Sony is more developer friendly and I like the choice and freedom of flashing custom ROMs. Both phones will meet my performance requirements so will come down to cost eventually.
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I would say buy nexus 4. But, if you like Sammy based roms, you can go with Samsung s4. Im using sammy rom on s2 and i would never again flash aosp/cm based roms only because of screwed drivers. Cudos to devs to what did they do but.. True project butter is still better. I would buy s4 only because i dont mind using sammy based roms, like neatrom lite. And snapdragon version of s4 might have better support because they push their sources out i think. Wait until May to see nexus 5, then decide.
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I'm of a similar opinion, S2 running well but if I can get a deal I'll upgrade. Torn between S4 and xperia Z. S2 was my first smart phone and I do like TW but I hear Sony is more developer friendly and I like the choice and freedom of flashing custom ROMs. Both phones will meet my performance requirements so will come down to cost eventually.
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Go with s4, xperia z has really low specs for that kind of device. And not that good display, its like washed out, also UI is not smooth, it stutters a lot. Better buy nexus 4 instead of xperia z.
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Shamesung: no way. Not again... Sony, Moto xphone, nexus... Or apple. Will see what is the best for me in the following months.
Decisions decisions, next nexus also deserves serious consideration. Just not a fan of the black and white Google stock look.
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Decisions decisions, next nexus also deserves serious consideration. Just not a fan of the black and white Google stock look.
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You mean black and blue. you can flash or apply themes to make it like sammy for example. Thats why nexus is great. If i find great opportunity to buy n4 till May, i will, and if not, ill wait to see what nexus 5 will have. But right now, from devices on market, i would choose between nexus4 and s4. Htc one is good too, but that huge speaker grills on front? I mean come in, like some kid played with design. Also i saw 1080p video sample on youtube. It stutters like hell. Sure, it has great audio and its the best in low light capturing, but.. i personally dont need phone to shoot at night or in the dark. so, its s4 or nexus4.
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I agree, I'll probably sign up for a 30 day sim only rolling contract and run my S2 until prices stabilise and all phones are released and fully reviewed.
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I haven't made my mind up yet but it's going to be a toss up between the Xperia Z, BB Z10, HTC One or the next Nexus 5.
Specs and power are a consideration but....
Xperia Z because I miss reading a book in the bath! Possible development support and good noises coming from Sony but the same could be said for Samsung a few years back.
BB Z10 as the OS intrigues me.
HTC One for its beautiful design, BOM and form factor.
Nexus 5 for the custom appeal and all round Googleness. Strayed from the Nexus line with the S2 so might go back.
Not considering the S4 at the moment as it looks more like a S3 upgrade than revolution. Samsung played it safe, almost using the Apple model of next model releases and I don't like the end result. To paraphrase a song, "here is the new phone, same as the old phone".
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Even the best phone is only the best for 6 to 9 months before its superseded. I am even starting to consider the S3 as it's price is bound to drop once S4 arrives.
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My SII is now used by my wife, and I got an III last year
The SII is still attractive and running well - I went away from stock rom to CM10.1 latest nightlies. It is running perfectly and has now an up to date Android OS - Good value for the money I think
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My SII is now used by my wife, and I got an III last year
The SII is still attractive and running well - I went away from stock rom to CM10.1 latest nightlies. It is running perfectly and has now an up to date Android OS - Good value for the money I think
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Good to know thank you, is the development scene active over on the S3 forum? Just had a quick browse through and there is a decent selection of custom ROMs available.
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If they release this in the Nexus variant I found my next device. First phone besides the S4 to catch my attention all year. Hoping Motorola makes an announcement soon so I can really weigh my options.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/03/htc-one-on-verizon-is-official-coming-later-this-summer/
Woooo! Waiting on full details on this and Moto X phone for my decision!
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If they release this in the Nexus variant I found my next device. First phone besides the S4 to catch my attention all year. Hoping Motorola makes an announcement soon so I can really weigh my options.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/03/htc-one-on-verizon-is-official-coming-later-this-summer/
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Glad to hear it's coming to Verizon, why would they release it as a Nexus variant though?
I'm getting this the moment it comes out.
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I'm getting this the moment it comes out.
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Oh yea!! Awesome!! I have $400 saved up on amazon specifically for this phone ha
That thing doesn't have an SD card right?
So my decision kinda goes down to front facing speakers, or an SD card.
Let the Exodus begin! I am so stoked about this. I have an upgrade available in August, but I will pay full price and save my unlimited data. Wahoo!
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Because they are releasing on on AT&T and the S4 will have one... Also, some folks love that...
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This upsets me. I just ordered an Samsung galaxy 4. But then again my last 2 HTC phones was the "best of the best and will be kept up with updates." And that never happened either :thumbdown:
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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This might be enough to sway me back to htc...hmm balls in your court Motorola just plz have a 3300mah battery!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_might_release_aosp_rom_for_current_htc_one_owners-news-6132.php
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Nice, if they do a Verizon version, should be plenty of AOSP to pick from I'd hope
So I guess this won't be a true Google nexus phone but just a phone to run aosp? It is nice they are looking in to the option of giving owners a choice of os. Might be the first steps in allowing us to flash what we want in the future. Might get this phone when released.
My question is why is it Google owns moto but they still haven't released a nexus phone?
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Glad to hear it's coming to Verizon, why would they release it as a Nexus variant though?
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Here is how I am looking at the Nexus program. I think that people are starting to buy Nexus phones like the Iphone. A single experience across a single platform. Jelly Bean finally made Android beautiful to look at and use and now people are catching on. Samsung was part of the Nexus experience for a long time, and they made a decent market out of it. With this in mind people are seeing the Nexus verisons advertised and the skins OEM use are cartoony, bulky, and don't carry 1 or 2 of Androids core features well after release. With the Nexus program more OEM's are seeing profitability probability from having these stock phones. It also will help them develop a more precise skin in using stock they will see what people like and build features off it while maintaining stock characteristics. Skins can be good Sense started off on the right foot, but has gotten farther and farther away from adding any new functions (Cough) Iphone (Cough) it used to be the best clock, weather, and calendar but as of JB stock is just as good and with Google unifying to the Card UI its feels so consistent across the phone, and skins just subtract from that when they aren't offering anything else that isn't better than or as good as stock.
Now for us, this is great news for the dev community if it means that the Nexus Updates are indeed coming from google. As we have come to terms with HTC just doesn't release source timely and with that in mind slows us down considerably. Now if Google is handling the updates they don't need to listen to HTC they can just post the source for the Nexus variant and we can build off that (not me I mean you) . This in theory should make getting AOSP roms built much faster and much stabler overall. because Even though our devs are great and our community is great JB will never exactly be 100% there. With this though we should see quicker builds, more stable builds, and increased longevity of our device.
I am excited, this looks good for us, and HTC. I know many of us came from the DINC and we all basically had the same idea about the Rez. I love this phone, but during the time I have had it HTC just seemed to be getting worse(along with verizon) but as of late I have been impressed. They seem to be really trying and the one is a combo of great design and great hardware as they always do. So I think this may be enough to keep my HTC loyalty from straying to a galaxy far far away.
Google never had to listen to the phone makers. The problem they had was with Verizon when they told Google CDMA was closed sourced and all updates had to go through them first. Anyone who owns a Verizon galaxy nexus knows how slow updates came when compared to their gsm counterpart. Any Google phone has nothing to do with the makers of the phone when it comes to the software.
Don't even try to compare the nexus line with the iPhone. Most people buys a nexus phone because you can root and customize the phone to their liking. Also to have updates to come quickly. People buys I phones for the name and that's it. Don't compare apples to oranges.
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Only so many users are looking to root the average end user is not looking for hacking capabilities. They are looking for an experience that is taken care of for them. Thats what the Iphone used to be, and that's what Android with Jelly Bean has become. People are moving to android for more reasons than hacking. They may be two different OS's, and two different Manufacturers but Google's nexus line is becoming mainstream now. There is no denying that. I know tons of people with Iphones that have bought a nexus 7 and really "enjoyed the interface" meaning Android is now as and more polished than the previous smartphone overlords at apple. Android is becoming a more powerful OS on its own premise than manufacturers and OEM skins.
Thats just my take though
I've been switching back/forth between iOS and Android but I've been mostly an iPhone user because of the camera quality but now that there is a Nexus available with a good (great even) camera, I've gone ahead and purchased a 6P.
Is anybody else switching from an iPhone 6S?
Mine 6P is going to arrive tomorrow, and I'm not going to sell my 6S Plus yet, but it will be interesting to compare the two phones and see if Android can lure me back...
I will not be switching, because my work related emails etc will be on iOS, but I will be using the 6P as my personal device along with the iPhone 6 as my official device. So every moment the comparisons will be obvious to me.
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I wouldn't consider switching from a 6s crazy.
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I was back and forth between my iPhone 6 (not S), Galaxy S6 Edge, and now my Nexus 6P. Only had the Nexus a day before I knew what I liked the most. Probably the more personal choice you need to make is Android or iOS. If you've never used Android ever before, you may be shocked how things work differently.
Actually its a very wise move!
Just keep both.
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I came from a 6s.
I love how smooth iOS is but the 6s wasn't a HUGE upgrade from the iPhone 6 so I was like meh.
I wanted something different. Something new. Something cool.
This nexus is buttery smooth.
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I came from a 6s.
I love how smooth iOS is but the 6s wasn't a HUGE upgrade from the iPhone 6 so I was like meh.
I wanted something different. Something new. Something cool.
This nexus is buttery smooth.
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Wait till the crappy 3rd party apps make it crawl which will eventually happen!
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LNJ said:
Wait till the crappy 3rd party apps make it crawl which will eventually happen!
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I've been with Android longer than iOS. I know how it works.
That's not exactly what happens, but sure.
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Wait till the crappy 3rd party apps make it crawl which will eventually happen!
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You must be one of those samsung users.
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You must be one of those samsung users.
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You assume too much. The lack of stringent standards for Android apps is the major Achilles Heel at the moment compared to iOS that does a better job demanding apps devs to meet very specific criteria!
Being a Nexus device doesn't give it supernatural abilities to overcome crappily coded resources hogging apps!
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LNJ said:
You assume too much. The lack of stringent standards for Android apps is the major Achilles Heel at the moment compared to iOS that does a better job demanding apps devs to meet very specific criteria!
Being a Nexus device doesn't give it supernatural abilities to overcome crappily coded resources hogging apps!
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Plethora of Sammy user complaints common to your testimonial. More than just that, inherent flaws with their distributed versions of android.
WOAH, I just googled your sent from, Sammy indeed.
syntrix said:
Plethora of Sammy user complaints common to your testimonial. More than just that, inherent flaws with their distributed versions of android.
WOAH, I just googled your sent from, Sammy indeed.
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I've owned a GNEX, Nexus 5, M8 GPE so it has nothing to do with Samsung!
You Nexus sheep are just as bad as iSheep for being deniers!
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I've been with both iOS and Android for years with both and never heard anything about the number of apps ever slowing down my phones. At one point I had over 300 on one phone and reducing it to nothing changed nothing. What "slows" Android are overlays like Touchwiz. Hence why most of us are here with Nexuses
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I've been with both iOS and Android for years with both and never heard anything about the number of apps ever slowing down my phones. At one point I had over 300 on one phone and reducing it to nothing changed nothing. What "slows" Android are overlays like Touchwiz. Hence why most of us are here with Nexuses
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Did I ever mention the number of apps anywhere?
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LNJ said:
Did I ever mention the number of apps anywhere?
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Wait till the crappy 3rd party apps make it crawl which will eventually happen!
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I guess I got lucky and none of the 300+ apps were coded poorly then. I'm still waiting to find this mysterious problem.
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I guess I got lucky and none of the 300+ apps were coded poorly then. I'm still waiting to find this mysterious problem.
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Good one!
Unfortunately I can't argue with delusion!
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Dude/Dudette, be crazy. Keep both for a while. If you have to choose, and you have to ask opinions, you evidently like both and it's going to be a pain either way!
Maybe mediation will help.
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Dude/Dudette, be crazy. Keep both for a while. If you have to choose, and you have to ask opinions, you evidently like both and it's going to be a pain either way!
Maybe mediation will help.
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I heard alot that the 6P has difficulty issues to take marco shots from closeup.. Can anyone confirm this ?
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LNJ said:
You assume too much. The lack of stringent standards for Android apps is the major Achilles Heel at the moment compared to iOS that does a better job demanding apps devs to meet very specific criteria!
Being a Nexus device doesn't give it supernatural abilities to overcome crappily coded resources hogging apps!
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I don't think he was making an assumption, if you look at your tapatalk sig it says what device you're using...
Also I've never had any slow downs from a device over time except for the original Nexus 7, but that was due to some sort of poor quality flash memory or something, nothing to due with the apps.
My phone history looks like this:
AT&T Galaxy S2 i777
--Back when each carrier got it's own different Galaxy variant...jeez that's crazy to think about now, not only were the designs different, they even included different CPU's! AT&T and International had the Exynos chip, all others had the snapdragon I think.
International & AT&T Galaxy S3
--AT&T was just rolling out LTE and it wasn't in my area yet so I wanted the International variant which had more custom ROM choices & a quad core processor. Once I had LTE in my area I got the AT&T version because...LTE! Turns out the Snapdragon S4 Pro was faster than the Exynos Quad Core that was in the international version. Also this is when I started running Task650's AOKP ROM and fell in love with AOSP. Once I started using AOSP ROM's I could never go back to TouchWiz or any skin.
AT&T Galaxy Note 2
--Got it just for fun, to see what all the hype was about. Had to keep TouchWiz to use the S-Pen and keep it from being just a Galaxy S3 with a big ass screen.
AT&T Galaxy S4
--I got lucky and got it right around release. This was the last Galaxy device that was released on AT&T that had a workaround to get the bootloader unlocked, and that was only for the first few months. The LokiDoki exploit as it was called was patched very quickly by AT&T and/or Samsung. So only Galaxy S4's that came out of the box with one of the earlier builds could work around the bootloader. Also there were a ton more ROM's available because Google also introduced the Google Play Edition so we finally had official Android without TouchWiz on a Samsung device!
LG Nexus 5
--My first non-Samsung Android...Also the last time I ever switch to a Nexus from anything BUT a Nexus. This phone is magical. Almost 2 years old and this thing gets faster with every update! Haha that's actually a lie, Lollipop was not good to my Nexus 5, however I'll call that growing pains as Marshmallow runs smoother than any other device I've ever used including iPhones, iPad's. I think Marshmallow(pure Marshmallow, I can't speak for TouchWiz Marshmallow, or Sense Marshmallow, etc) is finally on iOS's level in terms of polish, smoothness, and aesthetics. Marshmallow and Material Design in my opinion actually look a lot more professional than iOS does. Material Design is also more than just being pretty, it is incredibly easy to use, and most apps are updating their UI to follow suit. Another thing to note with Marshmallow is I have yet to have an app Force Close in the month or so I've been using it, compared to it happening somewhat often in Lollipop. Kit-kat 4.4.4 was also very smooth and fast, but I was never a big fan of Holo, except for when ICS came out because anything woulda been better than the UI in Froyo & Gingerbread..
Okay, so I don't know why I just wrote all that, I started typing and couldn't stop, I was having fun remembering my Android career haha. I think the point I was trying to make was that in none of those devices did any of my phones start slowing down after any amount of time. With the exception of my Nexus 7(2012) because of the flash memory or whatever I said earlier.
I am debating getting a 6p...I've been saying no this whole time as my Nexus 5 is running better than ever, but I would like something with a bigger battery and bigger screen I think.