I'm in GMT +8 and the time shows in wm and android has a gap of 8 hours.
Just like the time question in pc when using windows and linux&mac os at the same time.
How can i solve this in phone? Thanks~
xi.lin said:
I'm in GMT +8 and the time shows in wm and android has a gap of 8 hours.
Just like the time question in pc when using windows and linux&mac os at the same time.
How can i solve this in phone? Thanks~
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I'm GMT -7, and my time never is different - I guess my WinMo ROM or service provider is updating the time...? That seems like the best solution. If you have cell service on the device, just make sure that the device receives time from your provider...
For me, this 'just works' - I didn't have to setup anything. I don't know why some do and others don't... but that's the solution. There's probably some atomic clock app for WinMo as well, but this really is a WinMo issue... and you're posting in the Android development section .
Thanks for your infomation, and i think i should try some rom from energy or jackos.
And if the post is not related in the section, you can delete it~
xi.lin said:
I'm in GMT +8 and the time shows in wm and android has a gap of 8 hours.
Just like the time question in pc when using windows and linux&mac os at the same time.
How can i solve this in phone? Thanks~
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There is a good, free time sync app, here.
You can configure it to run at startup by creating the shortcut (using total commander) in the \Windows\Startup directory with the command line option "/silent"
For me setting the time-zone to GTM +0 (Casablanca) in android works. (with auto detect time via internet selected off).
btw, I'm from the Netherlands ;p
jellenl said:
For me setting the time-zone to GTM +0 (Casablanca) in android works. (with auto detect time via internet selected off).
btw, I'm from the Netherlands ;p
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GMT+0 sometimes make some app odd in android~
jellenl said:
For me setting the time-zone to GTM +0 (Casablanca) in android works. (with auto detect time via internet selected off).
btw, I'm from the Netherlands ;p
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I have the same settings.
arrrghhh said:
I'm GMT -7, and my time never is different - I guess my WinMo ROM or service provider is updating the time...? That seems like the best solution. If you have cell service on the device, just make sure that the device receives time from your provider...
For me, this 'just works' - I didn't have to setup anything. I don't know why some do and others don't... but that's the solution. There's probably some atomic clock app for WinMo as well, but this really is a WinMo issue... and you're posting in the Android development section .
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Yup. Some WinMo ROMs autoupdate the time, some don't. EnergyROM doesn't seem to do so, making it update from network requires going through a bunch of menu items. It's a real pain...
Entropy512 said:
Yup. Some WinMo ROMs autoupdate the time, some don't. EnergyROM doesn't seem to do so, making it update from network requires going through a bunch of menu items. It's a real pain...
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I've used EnergyROM ever since I got the TP2, always updated for me... Never changed any settings from the default - I've also flashed many different versions of Energy. Before I preferred the look/feel of Sense, but anymore I just use WinMo to boot Android, so I went back to Titanium .
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I've used EnergyROM ever since I got the TP2, always updated for me... Never changed any settings from the default - I've also flashed many different versions of Energy. Before I preferred the look/feel of Sense, but anymore I just use WinMo to boot Android, so I went back to Titanium .
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I've been using Titanium too for the past two months - but for whatever reason Energy stopped autoupdating time for me ages ago.
I wonder if it's just disabled for GSM users?
Entropy512 said:
I've been using Titanium too for the past two months - but for whatever reason Energy stopped autoupdating time for me ages ago.
I wonder if it's just disabled for GSM users?
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Tha'd be odd. It seems GSM users have reported this issue MUCH more frequently than CDMA users - so perhaps that is the key...
My WINMO never ever syncs time.
I'm using energy too 0.o
GSM
WINMO always reports some wacky time that's always incorrect.
ryannathans said:
My WINMO never ever syncs time.
I'm using energy too 0.o
GSM
WINMO always reports some wacky time that's always incorrect.
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Actually, it's probably always correct - if you assume it's GMT and not local.
My winmo is always right, to the second. I assumed it polled the carrier the same way some of my dumbphones have in the past.
The only time its ever been off was when I used a time sync tool in android to correct that clock. For a few minutes after booting back into winmo, that clock was off before it polled again and righted itself. Since I rely on my winmo clock and only play in android for now, I tolerate the android clock being off and no longer try to sync the time, though other than getting a sync tool from the market, I've never really tried to fix it. Might just be some normal android setting change is necessary.
fortunz said:
My winmo is always right, to the second. I assumed it polled the carrier the same way some of my dumbphones have in the past.
The only time its ever been off was when I used a time sync tool in android to correct that clock. For a few minutes after booting back into winmo, that clock was off before it polled again and righted itself. Since I rely on my winmo clock and only play in android for now, I tolerate the android clock being off and no longer try to sync the time, though other than getting a sync tool from the market, I've never really tried to fix it. Might just be some normal android setting change is necessary.
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It's a kernel bug actually... WisTilt2's 4/15 kernel doesn't exhibit the drift - or at least it's significantly less. Not sure what is holding it up from the autobuild, probably some piece of the patch that the repo maintainers don't like .
His patch removes some locks from the kernel message logger. Frankly, the fact that it works tells me we've got too much code spewing out debug messages while inside interrupt handlers. It's crap. You throw debug messages in while you're trying to figure something out. Once you have it working, turn them off.
The fact that these things are being left behind all over the kernel source is a pretty bad sign - either the developers got sloppy and never cleaned up after they got something working, or they just never got it working and moved on anyway.
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His patch removes some locks from the kernel message logger. Frankly, the fact that it works tells me we've got too much code spewing out debug messages while inside interrupt handlers. It's crap. You throw debug messages in while you're trying to figure something out. Once you have it working, turn them off.
The fact that these things are being left behind all over the kernel source is a pretty bad sign - either the developers got sloppy and never cleaned up after they got something working, or they just never got it working and moved on anyway.
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A little from column A... a little from column B...
I would agree .27 is a mess. I think that's why most of the kernel devs are looking to .3x to save us, instead of trying to fix the mess that .27 has become...
Back to the orginal topic... (kernal tangent was interesting )
Network time sync does not run automatically on all networks (GSM). Seems like a hit or miss... yes, you CDMA folks finally have an advantage!
For those using Energy ROM, just extract the attached file (link) to your \windows\startup folder and it will run the 'get carrier time' script at each boot back to WinMo. Or... you can use TotalCommander, locate t.mscr in windows and create a shortcut yourself and drop it in the startup folder.
For most people direct linking to t.mscr or t.exe will cause a pb.exe error. JVH3 has put together a cab that seems to work around this issue it can be found linked to this post.
Pretty sure this whole discussion is off topic to "android development" while kernel discussion is very relevant. So do we stay on topic with the forum section or with the post? Paradoxical.
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It seems since 3.1.6 my keyboard has been acting up.
`Registering double-presses,
`not registering function or shift on about half of the keypresses [seems the timer to hit fcn > key is lower]
I reverted back to 3.1.5 and the problem vanished.
I've been having the same problems with 3.1.6 and 3.2 and couldn't for the life of me figure it out. Wasn't sure if it was a conflict with something I'm running or not like MagiKBLite, but even after deactivating that have the same problems...
i found this as well, i thought it was due to getting pizza grease and other junk in the keyboard and making the buttons stick. its so bad its to the point that i had to start using spb fullscreen keyboard. i am glad to see that the problem is with the software rather than the hardware. not to worry, DCD is the fu**ing man!!! im sure he will have a fix for this in the next version
All three of you need to troubleshoot this again. I haven't seen any issue on 3.1.6 or 3.2. Do this, install the pre-made ROM, your carrier file ONLY, and then see what happens..... Do this for both 3.1.6 and 3.2.... My bets are that something you included or installed is causing the issue, OR you three have a hardware issue....
I have the same issue with 3.2.0, never used 3.1.6, but I had the issue from scatch with both ROM and Kitchen builds. The biggest one for me is that I can't get the "()" keys to work and all of my contacts info has to have them around the area code due to the CIM software I have to use for work...
maskedlion said:
I have the same issue with 3.2.0, never used 3.1.6, but I had the issue from scatch with both ROM and Kitchen builds. The biggest one for me is that I can't get the "()" keys to work and all of my contacts info has to have them around the area code due to the CIM software I have to use for work...
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Did you have the issue with your previous build?
I had issues with 3.1.6 and 3.2.0 and have been experimenting. Next thing I want to try is to find the keyboard driver in an older ROM and try plugging that into the newer one, same thing I did to get my outlook working with exchange.
azclown said:
Did you have the issue with your previous build?
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My previous was 3.0.4 and I did not have this issue with that build.
this started for me before I even started to flash my phone. Has slowly gotten worse. I found a thread somewhere around here or ppcg that had a small cab file that fixed things right up.
I'd hit a key and the letter would appear 3-4 times, Fn would randomly lock and unlock.... now all better...
Scrufdog said:
this started for me before I even started to flash my phone. Has slowly gotten worse. I found a thread somewhere around here or ppcg that had a small cab file that fixed things right up.
I'd hit a key and the letter would appear 3-4 times, Fn would randomly lock and unlock.... now all better...
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Yep, that did the trick for me too. I had to get that keyboard fix the other day, since my T, E, I, and Fn keys would either register double/triple hits or just work whenever they wanted to. If anyone is also having an issue with some programs only registering all keyboard key hits as symbols rather than letters, this will fix that too.
maskedlion said:
I have the same issue with 3.2.0, never used 3.1.6, but I had the issue from scatch with both ROM and Kitchen builds. The biggest one for me is that I can't get the "()" keys to work and all of my contacts info has to have them around the area code due to the CIM software I have to use for work...
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I had the same issue - I used the kitchen to build my rom - I generally do my "settings" - (screen brightness, owner info, etc) before I add ANY .cabs and noticed this issue. What was funny, however, was after a soft reset (after installing one of my programs) it went away, so I never really gave it another thought.
thaaankk youuu (arrgh) thaankyou (dammit) ......install cab file...... thank you thank you thank you!!! (fu**ing EH!!! no more on screen keyboard woo-hoo..)
Thanks for the cab. I noticed it with whatever version I had before DCD3.2.0 (I want to say 3.0.4 but I could be wrong). I was starting to wonder if it was somehow related to the radio 3.39.10.
This issue has been around for the entire life of the phone. UTStarcom actually provides the fix in their downloads section for the xv6800.
http://handsets.utstar.com/view_phone_details.aspx?mcode=XV6800&bID=89&sAct=0
mine did this, but also my o, p, and l keys wouldnt register unless phyiscally pressed very hard. then would register like 3 times.
i thought it was something physically wrong with the phone and just got a brand new replacement in the mail today.... ooops
First time I have ever seen the VZW version... Glad I am on Sprint
gc14 said:
This issue has been around for the entire life of the phone. UTStarcom actually provides the fix in their downloads section for the xv6800.
http://handsets.utstar.com/view_phone_details.aspx?mcode=XV6800&bID=89&sAct=0
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gc comes through again!!!!! even after using the first posted fix in this thread i noticed it was still happening. then, after following gc's link PRESTO!! THE PROBLEM IS GONE!!! THANKS MAN
krazycanuck82 said:
gc comes through again!!!!! even after using the first posted fix in this thread i noticed it was still happening. then, after following gc's link PRESTO!! THE PROBLEM IS GONE!!! THANKS MAN
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I followed the link and when I tried to download it gave me the whole page cannot be found error. Anyone know if this is just temporary? Or anywhere else I can download this?
fozmsu said:
I followed the link and when I tried to download it gave me the whole page cannot be found error. Anyone know if this is just temporary? Or anywhere else I can download this?
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This is the .zip file directly from the UTStarcom site. I downloaded it the other day and never deleted it lol.
daddymac117 said:
This is the .zip file directly from the UTStarcom site. I downloaded it the other day and never deleted it lol.
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Thanks. Much appreciated
I recently purchased my HTC Hero from a local retailer. (I am in Canada)
My problem is with SMS messages. My messages appear in the conversation with the correct time. All my received sms messages are 4 hours behind the actual received time.
Rogers releases a specific fix for the HTC Magic and Dream (Hero is not supported here and I doubt Rogers will make a patch just for me)
I had the same problem with my Xperia X1, that was solved with a quick registry edit.
Any ideas of what I should do?
I assume that your time stamp is 4 hours behind, i had the same problem. just set your time zone to however far behind you need your time stamp to be
Hi, i am having the same problem as you. I am in Canada too
So here are some solutions (not perfect solutions)
you can EITHER install my modified version of smsfixtimes, it will fix the time stamp when you receive messages. Details about the app can be found on the project page http://code.google.com/p/smsfixtimes/ (the original version posted by the author does not work on hero)
problem with this app:
1)the time showed in notifications is not corrected
2)maybe interfere with wifi connection, sometimes you get connection error in Android Market, not sure if the app is really causing the problem
OR if having correct time stamps is not crucial to you, install chompSMS as a workaround, it have a correct threaded view even the time stamps are wrong
flamesprite said:
I assume that your time stamp is 4 hours behind, i had the same problem. just set your time zone to however far behind you need your time stamp to be
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Thanks but I actually use my phone as a time piece. Not worth having a messed up time to make my txt messages appear to be correct.
I HATE ROGERS
man this is so frustrating. If it's not the radio signals that need to be changed its registry hacks to make their faulty hardware work proper.
I tried the SMSfix. Doesnt work fer **** on my phone. Fixed all messages and it did nothing.
skiiirt said:
Thanks but I actually use my phone as a time piece. Not worth having a messed up time to make my txt messages appear to be correct.
I HATE ROGERS
man this is so frustrating. If it's not the radio signals that need to be changed its registry hacks to make their faulty hardware work proper.
I tried the SMSfix. Doesnt work fer **** on my phone. Fixed all messages and it did nothing.
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did you try the one i attached or the one found on market? coz it's working fine on my hero
It isn't working on mine either.
I tried the one you attached. It worked, well sort of. I am now only 2 hours out, instead of 4. So slightly better but definitely not fixed
it's quite simply really
You set your timezone to however far behind your clock is and then you manually manage your time so make sure that automatic isnt ticked off then you just set the time to whatever you want it to be. works for me
flamesprite said:
it's quite simply really
You set your timezone to however far behind your clock is and then you manually manage your time so make sure that automatic isnt ticked off then you just set the time to whatever you want it to be. works for me
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but does the twitter widget show negative times?
my god Tangzq, thank you SO much! That app worked perfectly for me!
This was the only thing that was bothering me about the Hero and I'm glad it's finally fixed!
flamesprite said:
it's quite simply really
You set your timezone to however far behind your clock is and then you manually manage your time so make sure that automatic isnt ticked off then you just set the time to whatever you want it to be. works for me
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Worked for about 10 minutes, randomly "unfixed" itself. Times are now off.
How do I install this zipped app?
tangzq said:
Hi, i am having the same problem as you. I am in Canada too
So here are some solutions (not perfect solutions)
you can EITHER install my modified version of smsfixtimes, it will fix the time stamp when you receive messages. Details about the app can be found on the project page http://code.google.com/p/smsfixtimes/ (the original version posted by the author does not work on hero)
problem with this app:
1)the time showed in notifications is not corrected
2)maybe interfere with wifi connection, sometimes you get connection error in Android Market, not sure if the app is really causing the problem
OR if having correct time stamps is not crucial to you, install chompSMS as a workaround, it have a correct threaded view even the time stamps are wrong
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How do I install this zipped app? its not in the apk format, please help
I use a pretty cool windows mobile app called Note2Self - it records a quick thought, then emails it to you so it will be in your inbox. One problem is that if it is set to email right away, the app will pause for a good minute while it connects to your SMTP server and send the email. So, this was a pain if you wanted to make multiple recordings one right after another. The solution is to have the app instead place the email in the "outbox" of activesync. This way the emails are stored right away (without sending them until you dock with your PC).
But, I just found out that if there are any emails in activesync's "outbox" and then I run Clrcd/Haret.exe to launch Android. Then reboot back into Windows mobile - ALL of the email in the AS outbox are gone!
I also discovered that any recently received or sent SMS/Text messages your had before the boot into Android will also me missing when you reboot back into windows mobile.
It seems the CEmail.vol file is "forgetting" these messages when android is run.
Anybody have a fix for this?
Wrong session dude wrong session, it must posted on general q& answer
imanh said:
Wrong session dude wrong session, it must posted on general q& answer
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Since this issue is only applicable to "SD Development" (and not applicable to "NAND" or "Themes"), that is why I thought this would be the appropriate spot.
JohnCody said:
Since this issue is only applicable to "SD Development" (and not applicable to "NAND" or "Themes"), that is why I thought this would be the appropriate spot.
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but this has absolutely nothing to do with development
JohnCody said:
I use a pretty cool windows mobile app called Note2Self - it records a quick thought, then emails it to you so it will be in your inbox. One problem is that if it is set to email right away, the app will pause for a good minute while it connects to your SMTP server and send the email. So, this was a pain if you wanted to make multiple recordings one right after another. The solution is to have the app instead place the email in the "outbox" of activesync. This way the emails are stored right away (without sending them until you dock with your PC).
But, I just found out that if there are any emails in activesync's "outbox" and then I run Clrcd/Haret.exe to launch Android. Then reboot back into Windows mobile - ALL of the email in the AS outbox are gone!
I also discovered that any recently received or sent SMS/Text messages your had before the boot into Android will also me missing when you reboot back into windows mobile.
It seems the CEmail.vol file is "forgetting" these messages when android is run.
Anybody have a fix for this?
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People are indeed rude. what Winmo rom are you using cause i dont have that problem. i wish my messages would disappear i hate alot of messages stored or kept i like to have everything cleared. but maybe its the windows build you are using.
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People are indeed rude. what Winmo rom are you using cause i dont have that problem. i wish my messages would disappear i hate alot of messages stored or kept i like to have everything cleared. but maybe its the windows build you are using.
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I am using NRGz28 Energy ROm 6/1/2011:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
I seems that the lost often happens with an emails in Outlook's (ActiveSync's) "Outbox" and any Text messages in the SMS/MMS "inbox". If any messages are in there, then booting into Android using clr/haret then rebooting back into WM6 will loose those messages
Hi,
i experienced the same problem often when i started (SD-)Android from my WinMo stock rom. Later, when i reboot into WinMo i can see, that it losts the last mails and SMS.
I made some tests and my solution is simple: When you want to start Android, shut down your WinMo and start it again and then start Android! (When you press and hold your bottom right On/Off-button, you can shut down the device and then all datas will be saved.)
The problem with the Android-bootloaders (or the using of CLRCAD.exe and HARET.exe) seems to be, that they not regular shutdown WinMo before Android starts. Its only like a Softreset. And then unstored datas get lost.
It's the same way like you want to shut down your Windows-PC. You dont just pull the power plug but you choose "Start / Shutdown" and wait till it finishes to save all datas.
Hope, that helps.
Btw: sorry for my poor english...
Spiogent said:
Hi,
i experienced the same problem often when i started (SD-)Android from my WinMo stock rom. Later, when i reboot into WinMo i can see, that it losts the last mails and SMS.
I made some tests and my solution is simple: When you want to start Android, shut down your WinMo and start it again and then start Android! (When you press and hold your bottom right On/Off-button, you can shut down the device and then all datas will be saved.)
The problem with the Android-bootloaders (or the using of CLRCAD.exe and HARET.exe) seems to be, that they not regular shutdown WinMo before Android starts. Its only like a Softreset. And then unstored datas get lost.
It's the same way like you want to shut down your Windows-PC. You dont just pull the power plug but you choose "Start / Shutdown" and wait till it finishes to save all datas.
Hope, that helps.
Btw: sorry for my poor english...
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Try mskip android loader. I don't have Winmo 6.5 any more (moved to MAGLDR) but from memory mskip has shortcuts you can add to your home screen to either launch Android straight away (it runs CLRCAD and HARET for you), or reboot and launch into Android automatically (which would solve your problem!)
Hope this helps.
aww ****, this happened to me just on sun night! i was wondering wth was going on. i even use the mskip app so what am i doing that somehow made my msgs disappear? damn, i really prefer the 3 sec option. i guess i got to get rid of it and select none.
but i have used that option for a long time now and this is the first time that i have encountered this problem.
knote said:
aww ****, this happened to me just on sun night! i was wondering wth was going on. i even use the mskip app so what am i doing that somehow made my msgs disappear? damn, i really prefer the 3 sec option. i guess i got to get rid of it and select none.
but i have used that option for a long time now and this is the first time that i have encountered this problem.
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Hmmmm... I dunno mate. As my sig says, I don't have Winmo any more so I can't test it.
Sorry.
Hi guys, ive looked all around the web trying to find a solution but i cant say i found something yet so here it is.
I have a Nokia N900 right now and as much as i like it, its getting old, so im slowly looking for a new phone.
I feel like i might have been spoiled by the N900 multitasking and i want to know if my requirement for my new are possible to have.
So here it is: Is it possible to multitask with multiple instances of some applications? Really its only for email and sms, so i can for example copy text from one email, paste it in another one that is also open at the same time and can switch back and forth between them. In other words, can i have multiple sms/email conversations opened at the same time (one conversation with bob, one with jack, one with dave...) i often have more than 10-15 of them open at the same time on my n900 and if there would be only one reason for me to keep my phone it would be that.
I looked for multitasking apps with grid view hoping it would do that but from what i see you can only have one of those apps running at once anyway and it might seem crazy but for the number of time I switch between conversations on my n900, like i would using WLM for example, this could be a major dealbreaker for me if its not possible.
I'm sorry if it looks like a stupid question or something but ive completely missed the bus regarding android/ios/bb developpement as i used wm6.5 then switched directly to maemo5 2 years ago.
no one, really?
I don't think it works this way on Android, though you just might be able to find an app that does this.
thanks for the input
Sup Neo! I too went from the N900 to a GSII and I find myself not regretting it at all. There is no TRUE multitasking like the N900, at all from what I have found.
I'm not sure if any apps have been made available for such multi tasking, but I don't think anyone here who doesn't have N900 experience will understand what we mean.
Now it just needs an N900 writer to make something happen for android. Otherwise, I do NOT regret switching over, I absolutely love the speed and freedom of my new phone. The N900 was killing me on simple tasks like sending and receiving MMS, or connecting to the internet without destroying my battery life. No regrets.
neoblast said:
Hi guys, ive looked all around the web trying to find a solution but i cant say i found something yet so here it is.
I have a Nokia N900 right now and as much as i like it, its getting old, so im slowly looking for a new phone.
I feel like i might have been spoiled by the N900 multitasking and i want to know if my requirement for my new are possible to have.
So here it is: Is it possible to multitask with multiple instances of some applications? Really its only for email and sms, so i can for example copy text from one email, paste it in another one that is also open at the same time and can switch back and forth between them. In other words, can i have multiple sms/email conversations opened at the same time (one conversation with bob, one with jack, one with dave...) i often have more than 10-15 of them open at the same time on my n900 and if there would be only one reason for me to keep my phone it would be that.
I looked for multitasking apps with grid view hoping it would do that but from what i see you can only have one of those apps running at once anyway and it might seem crazy but for the number of time I switch between conversations on my n900, like i would using WLM for example, this could be a major dealbreaker for me if its not possible.
I'm sorry if it looks like a stupid question or something but ive completely missed the bus regarding android/ios/bb developpement as i used wm6.5 then switched directly to maemo5 2 years ago.
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Yo. Most Android apps can support multitask on its own UNLESS the developer has puposely disable it.
iOS and Android don't run in Windows style, ie, you can open 2 Mozilla Firefox windows at the same time. Copy and paste work the same as the pc.
So I guess you would have problems in the multiple email opening thing, most phones cannot.
So my suggestion is to keep your N900 as a email phone and change to android or iPhone as your main phone.
Sent from my ARHD powered, HTC Desire HD, read signature for my program
lzhikai1994 said:
Yo. Most Android apps can support multitask on its own UNLESS the developer has puposely disable it.
iOS and Android don't run in Windows style, ie, you can open 2 Mozilla Firefox windows at the same time. Copy and paste work the same as the pc.
So I guess you would have problems in the multiple email opening thing, most phones cannot.
So my suggestion is to keep your N900 as a email phone and change to android or iPhone as your main phone.
Sent from my ARHD powered, HTC Desire HD, read signature for my program
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Having two phones would suck, and I'm sure he would get over the whole multi tasking issue after a week of using the SII
But I have to say, nothing is as impressive as bouncing around from different windows, and different text messages, and different apps as much as you want.
You just can't substitute for it
http ://campusainteractive.files.wordpress. com/2010/02/nokia-n900-multi-tasking.jpg
Goliath27 said:
Having two phones would suck, and I'm sure he would get over the whole multi tasking issue after a week of using the SII
But I have to say, nothing is as impressive as bouncing around from different windows, and different text messages, and different apps as much as you want.
You just can't substitute for it
http ://campusainteractive.files.wordpress. com/2010/02/nokia-n900-multi-tasking.jpg
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Android has true multitasking except for the part of multi running a app.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Android has true multitasking except for the part of multi running a app.
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Ok OK so Android does have "True" multi-tasking
I would like to see it have Multiple Visible applications running at once and accessible between each other. Maybe that's what we should say when we want to see "Real" multitasking, and not just "true" multitasking.
Once again, still satisfied, but we have a craving that we want to fill as well sometimes.
I would like to see android implement this. Webos(palm/hp) had "card style" applications windows and it was epic. That's said, I'm back to android. Just sayin
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Goliath27 said:
Ok OK so Android does have "True" multi-tasking
I would like to see it have Multiple Visible applications running at once and accessible between each other. Maybe that's what we should say when we want to see "Real" multitasking, and not just "true" multitasking.
Once again, still satisfied, but we have a craving that we want to fill as well sometimes.
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Hmm, depends what kind of multitasking you like, the one that actually let's you fully quits apps or one that is fully automated, meaning that you just use it without doing anything and still feel the multitasking, ie you press the home button and it still runs, however you may not notice it, until u use the same app again. However, this means you have to restart every night, to really close the apps, otherwise android will manage for you.
So it means that apps run indefinitely, and when you reopen the app, it will revert to what you did before, you can complete task like scanning eg those with a progress bar and you will see it filling the bar until completion even in the homescreen or other apps, and as I said, unless the developer wants to close the app when you are not using it.
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lzhikai1994 said:
Hmm, depends what kind of multitasking you like, the one that actually let's you fully quits apps or one that is fully automated, meaning that you just use it without doing anything and still feel the multitasking, ie you press the home button and it still runs, however you may not notice it, until u use the same app again. However, this means you have to restart every night, to really close the apps, otherwise android will manage for you.
So it means that apps run indefinitely, and when you reopen the app, it will revert to what you did before, you can complete task like scanning eg those with a progress bar and you will see it filling the bar until completion even in the homescreen or other apps, and as I said, unless the developer wants to close the app when you are not using it.
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That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
Goliath27 said:
That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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You mean something like this? : http ://developer.android.com/sdk/images/4.0/tasks-lg.png
I guess there is still only one instance of every app though.
codedog said:
You mean something like this? : http ://developer.android.com/sdk/images/4.0/tasks-lg.png
I guess there is still only one instance of every app though.
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That looks very interesting, is that for ICS? Even if it were for only one instance of each app, it would be more than we have now.
I just hate going from one app, to sending a text, to opening that app again. But I am not dying without it, that's for sure
Goliath27 said:
That's Androids Multitasking in a Nutshell, completely understand how it works and it does work well I might add. But it's just the extra step of being able to visually locate the running apps and access them. If you look at your Task Killer for example, you see the running tasks correct? But in order to use them, you have to navigate to the app and click it, no matter where it is on your system.
What I would love to see would be more of a Click and Open option to viewing your running tasks. Sort of like a back screen when you Zoom Out of your desktop on android. The same way you can see all of your desktops, you would be able to see all of your running apps and select which one to open, or to close.
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Hold the home button to see your last run apps? Other solutions are for example HTC Sense, which put apps you just run into the notifications
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Hold the home button to see your last run apps? Other solutions are for example HTC Sense, which put apps you just run into the notifications
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Yup I just discovered that and it works like a charm. Not a replacement but for now that will satisfy my needs.
Look, I'm not arguing with anyone here, just explaining the idea behind what us N900 users were used to and how useful it would be if implemented in android, this is all.
Goliath27 said:
Yup I just discovered that and it works like a charm. Not a replacement but for now that will satisfy my needs.
Look, I'm not arguing with anyone here, just explaining the idea behind what us N900 users were used to and how useful it would be if implemented in android, this is all.
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I suppose this is your first android phone? We're having a discussion here no worries. Yeah but if android were to use the window thing, there would be 10-20 Windows everytime. That's where the homescreen comes, just drag all your frequently used apps there and done, the so called window is done
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Andriod multitasks. You can have a ton of apps open at the same time and switch between them. However you can not have more then one instance of the same app running. So while you cant open say gmail and open multiple mails in seperate frames you can still switch between say a web page and mail.
There might be so great mail apps out there that handle mail seperatly, im just not sure which would do it. Bottom line,x the android OS is more then capable of doing what you want. Someone just needs to make or find the app for your needs.
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I suppose this is your first android phone? We're having a discussion here no worries. Yeah but if android were to use the window thing, there would be 10-20 Windows everytime. That's where the homescreen comes, just drag all your frequently used apps there and done, the so called window is done
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This would be my first android phone yes, and I think I came into the android world on a great phone as well. Home screen works but like I said, it's just the ability of having multiple things going on at once, as I will repeat in my reply to this post below vvvvvv
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Andriod multitasks. You can have a ton of apps open at the same time and switch between them. However you can not have more then one instance of the same app running. So while you cant open say gmail and open multiple mails in seperate frames you can still switch between say a web page and mail.
There might be so great mail apps out there that handle mail seperatly, im just not sure which would do it. Bottom line,x the android OS is more then capable of doing what you want. Someone just needs to make or find the app for your needs.
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That's just it, that would be the thing I KNOW android doesn't have yet wish it did. We all know we can't have more than one instance of the same app running at once, that much is clear. But having it would be the part I crave, and I'm sure others as well.
Imagine being able to reference to a previous text with someone else whenever you want to while working on another text with someone different.
Like I said, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO IT, I just wish you could!
and I wish people would stop explaining it to me lol, I KNOW, and I'm not asking for anyone to tell me how it works. I'm just saying, it would be nice, this is all!
also, being able to bounce from Xterm to open notepads or texts to anything, now that is how you process info on a phone. We'll never be satisfied, but for now I am.
Thanks for the replies fellas.
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This would be my first android phone yes, and I think I came into the android world on a great phone as well. Home screen works but like I said, it's just the ability of having multiple things going on at once, as I will repeat in my reply to this post below vvvvvv
That's just it, that would be the thing I KNOW android doesn't have yet wish it did. We all know we can't have more than one instance of the same app running at once, that much is clear. But having it would be the part I crave, and I'm sure others as well.
Imagine being able to reference to a previous text with someone else whenever you want to while working on another text with someone different.
Like I said, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO IT, I just wish you could!
and I wish people would stop explaining it to me lol, I KNOW, and I'm not asking for anyone to tell me how it works. I'm just saying, it would be nice, this is all!
also, being able to bounce from Xterm to open notepads or texts to anything, now that is how you process info on a phone. We'll never be satisfied, but for now I am.
Thanks for the replies fellas.
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Chill man, ease on the caps
Hi, I'm new here, but I figure my question is as good as any other. I recently became proud owner of the Xperia Neo MT15, which is now rooted and thoroughly protected, but I noticed something about the GPS and Network Location that bothers me - each time I enable either one, it asks me to agree to anonymous data collection.. Well, I don't agree, and I see no reason why I should be denied the features, because of my belief. So my question is this - does anyone know which system apk controls this? I would really like to impose it some restrictions using Pdroid as to stop the data collection. Any input is appreciated, thanks.
IddAgent.apk --- Anonymous Usage Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
Nope. Not the culprit, since I don't even have it. I do however notice a lot of calls for Network Location from com.sonyericsson.learningclient(which sounds logical) and devicemonitor(which sounds just suspicious). They start actively operating as soon as I enable GPS. I've disabled the access to most things for both and set GPS and Network Location data to be served as random. I don't think there are any other moles.
It's weird, because they both sound so harmless, when I look at their descriptions in the list you linked to. Maybe there's something else. I'll see if I can find anything.
Sony has a particular feeling to collect data .
Soon you will discover also that the sony Gps will not works without data at all, because is affected by a bug, and it drops every 5 minutes if you don't have data enabled.
For more informations, please, read my thread about gps on xperia phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524121
Holy... why did I ever buy a SE in the first place?! I love the brand, and I've loved every phone I've had/used (those include K750, K850, P1i). I'll try to see if I have the 5 min. bug.
EDIT: I'm not sure if i observed the behavior or not. I didn't go anywhere, but stayed on the window with the GPS and nav software on. The software never displayed a loss of connection. I did notice the GPS icon went to it's unfixed state twice for a split second, 5 minutes apart, but I guess I'm supposed to be on the move to notice the issue. All the while learningclient would call for GPS location and be fed random data. The wifi and data connections were both disabled. I'm going for a drive, I'll test and report back.
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Nope. Not the culprit, since I don't even have it
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Hm, you don't have it? You deleted it? I just run a search trough my phone and found a lot of files with idd in their names. Some are even in etc/security and in system/lib there is even one in framework
there's even one folder data/idd who also have output folder. It stores some files in there but can't figure out what trigger loging.
Hm there are also some iddd lib
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I do however notice a lot of calls for Network Location from com.sonyericsson.learningclient(which sounds logical)
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Hm interesting, on link above, it says it "learns user typed words for default keyboard". I just opened up dex file from that app, looks like that app is for alot of things based on some strings in side of it.
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and devicemonitor(which sounds just suspicious).
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I deleted that one
But as I see, that app is checking bunch lot of things(states) of your phone
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They start actively operating as soon as I enable GPS. I've disabled the access to most things for both and set GPS and Network Location data to be served as random. I don't think there are any other moles.
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Hm, what app you use for tracking those things.
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I don't remember deleting IddAgent. The other two I track using PDroid. I just enable its notifications for everything and I watch what does what. learningagent seems very keen on getting GPS location, while it's on, and device monitor calls network location every once in a while, I see no good reason why.
If you are able to unlock your bootloader, and install a custom kernel like inteks, or nightelf ones (void guarantee), question about collecting data while you enable gps just dissapear. I dont know if there is a easier way.
If I wanted to throw away my warranty, I would have done it the day I bought it. I know a custom Rom would solve the issue, but I don't want to risk it with the warranty, not yet anyway.
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