guys, i just own myself a LG optimus one P500.
lately i'm discovering all the features about this phone, and i found out that is quite lag the moment i ply with the game that i installed. firstly, i thought it is the storage / memory problem, so i move it from phone storage to SD, but still facing the same problem.
is there any solution to do with this?
EXAMPLE : pic freeze between few second while i slicing the fruit while plying the fruit ninja game.
any solution?
if there's any multiple about this topic, i'm sorry. pls direct me there, as i'm new, so i don't understand much of those software, i hope there's some1 able to provide me complete guide. ty a lot ^^
Root ur phone and flash custom recovery and then flash Franco kernel...
Do what he said its a touch screen lag and franco our miks kernel will fix it if you want to see a real performance boost I suggest flashing a good rom and overclock the CPU maybe void, miks cyanogen, metrom ROM or andy gingerbread then use setcpu to over clock it will make a big difference
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omg, i dono what u all talking about man.
what does Root means?
besides that, my phone running low in phone storage. =(
jjjkkklll said:
omg, i dono what u all talking about man.
what does Root means?
besides that, my phone running low in phone storage. =(
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here dude look at this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905 it will explain all of it and this forum willl give you the links to do all of it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 it will explain everything from rooting and custom recovery to kernels and ROMs and how to do it, its not that hard but fallow the instructions to a T cause you can damage your phone if you really want more space for apps partition your sd card after you install the custom recovery and go to this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12959016&postcount=2 and and click on the ungazes data2sd link i suggest using his test realease and not v1.2, depending on how big your sd card is and how big you make the partition i made a 2 gig partition and after i installed ungazes data2sd i have 1.7 gigs of space for apps i have 300plus apps and still 1.4 gigs of space left for apps it will also give huge performance boost my quadrant scores are up to 2300 did that help ???
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here dude look at this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905 it will explain all of it and this forum willl give you the links to do all of it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 it will explain everything from rooting and custom recovery to kernels and ROMs and how to do it, its not that hard but fallow the instructions to a T cause you can damage your phone if you really want more space for apps partition your sd card after you install the custom recovery and go to this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12959016&postcount=2 and and click on the ungazes data2sd link i suggest using his test realease and not v1.2, depending on how big your sd card is and how big you make the partition i made a 2 gig partition and after i installed ungazes data2sd i have 1.7 gigs of space for apps i have 300plus apps and still 1.4 gigs of space left for apps it will also give huge performance boost my quadrant scores are up to 2300 did that help ???
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ok,the moment i have time, i will go there and have a look.
btw, i receive a notification about update of firmware.
do i have to backup my phone b4 updating it?
if i update the firmware, will it clean all my previous files n stuff?
you've got a lot of reading to do. good luck!
If don't want custom rom. May be you should update your phone from LG PC suit. Lg people have redduced the touch screen bug. You should take backup of all important things like contacts.
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bro, IF YOU WANT GOOD PERFORMANCE AND A BETTER PHONE, YOU MUST TAKE THE TIME TO READ
I was a noob before, but reading really improves your knowledge in everything about android, and you will handle flashing your phone at a breeze
of course, xda forum is the best
good luck!
yup like yesterday i was a real noob but tday atleast i can comment here .. xda forums can make u noob to expert in no time if you read carefully... flashed cyanogen mod 7 with franco kernel... performance is good but disappointed cause of few bugs 'specially the netwrk issue'.. i may switch to devoid ..
yaya, i get it, due to lately assignment, once i done, i will do it...haha...
really sad with the default performance of the phone. scared to modify the phone. =(
jjjkkklll said:
yaya, i get it, due to lately assignment, once i done, i will do it...haha...
really sad with the default performance of the phone. scared to modify the phone. =(
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Done be scared just be careful and fallow instructions if you don't understand just ask someone will know its not hard once you do it once you will see and out makers the phone much much better
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dislplin01 said:
Done be scared just be careful and fallow instructions if you don't understand just ask someone will know its not hard once you do it once you will see and out makers the phone much much better
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thx a lot man, i will ^^
To be scared is normal, but trust us, once you try the steps indicated correctly, you will be more than satisfied First Read, then Root, add a Recovery, then get a ROM, then Relax (the 5 'R's lol)
Depending on your ROM, you can also flash a kernel and a theme maybe afterwards.
I've noticed lately some lag on answering the phone when it is locked? Dragging the bar to answer to be more precise. Anyone else has this problem? Also some lag on using the pattern unlock style. Some unresponsiveness turning alarm clock off or touching snooze button too.
I have root and void echo rom installed.
Problem solved. It was the SetCPU foult. I used low freq profile for stand by and it was very lazy coming back from that state. So don't use minimum freq on SetCPU profiles or you'll end up not being able to answer your phone.
Maby devs could make it more snappy?
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is it possible for me to increase my processor speed?? am using xperia mini pro.... it has 1Ghz but am thinking of increasing it. is it possible???
Have you tried overclocking?
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thanks for yur reply... i havent try it, i dont have any idea. hope it wont spoil my phone cos i try to use Android Overclocking application, after setting tha processor to 2016Mhz, my phone keeps restarting & it was very hot. i was lucky removing tha aplication!
139 views & no one wants to help???
please....
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thanks for yur reply... i havent try it, i dont have any idea. hope it wont spoil my phone cos i try to use Android Overclocking application, after setting tha processor to 2016Mhz, my phone keeps restarting & it was very hot. i was lucky removing tha aplication!
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Oh my god! Overclocking is not for starters! Be sure to read a lot before doing that. Go to wiki and search here on the forum. I can only say that you are doing in that in a irresponsible way, you could have bricked your phone.. The restart were normal overclocking brings instabillity. Just dont overclock if you like your phone.
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Oh my god! Overclocking is not for starters! Be sure to read a lot before doing that. Go to wiki and search here on the forum. I can only say that you are doing in that in a irresponsible way, you could have bricked your phone.. The restart were normal overclocking brings instabillity. Just dont overclock if you like your phone.
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thanks buddy... i thought as much dats why am asking cos some people will have done it!
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thanks buddy... i thought as much dats why am asking cos some people will have done it!
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I know that too but its really risky specialy when you overclock that much...
Try to search for a quicker rom or kernel instead of overclockin.
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thanks for yur reply... i havent try it, i dont have any idea. hope it wont spoil my phone cos i try to use Android Overclocking application, after setting tha processor to 2016Mhz, my phone keeps restarting & it was very hot. i was lucky removing tha aplication!
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Of course you can overclock but be very carefull not setting cpu speed too high and never set the speed at boot before you're absolutely sure that is stable else your phone will keep restarting like it did.Also overclocking depends on kernel too, so different kernels different stable max speed.I use rage 2.4 on my st15i and i went as far as 1.6 only to run some benchmarks.1.8 or more is very risky even for benchmarks the heat could destroy your phone.These speeds are not for everyday use beside the risk of destroying it the battery consumption would be massive.I'd say 1.2 for everyday use is perfectly normal cause it's already a very fast phone
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Of course you can overclock but be very carefull not setting cpu speed too high and never set the speed at boot before you're absolutely sure that is stable else your phone will keep restarting like it did.Also overclocking depends on kernel too, so different kernels different stable max speed.I use rage 2.4 on my st15i and i went as far as 1.6 only to run some benchmarks.1.8 or more is very risky even for benchmarks the heat could destroy your phone.These speeds are not for everyday use beside the risk of destroying it the battery consumption would be massive.I'd say 1.2 for everyday use is perfectly normal cause it's already a very fast phone
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yeah, tha phone already gat high speed... am using NeroDroid Rom!
i apologize if im breaking some kind of rule but i cant post on the development forum!?
after about 15 minutes of running ultimatum 2.1 my phone bootlooped i tried a couple tricks i have seen for bootloops and they were unsuccessful so i reinstalled with no wipe and ill see how that works has anyone else had this issue and if so... fixes?
i posted this thread hoping the developer will see it since i cant post on their development thread thanks
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setcpu is causing i suppose thats what i was doing the first time this time i went to change my settings as soon as i started setcpu it blackscreened dead nil zilch down for the count all i can do is download mode thank the android god haha but serious problem here POSSIBLE BRICKING howtomen & vlara please fix i really like ultimatum im going back to 2.0 have to work in 30 minutes
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i apologize if im breaking some kind of rule but i cant post on the development forum!?
after about 15 minutes of running ultimatum 2.1 my phone bootlooped i tried a couple tricks i have seen for bootloops and they were unsuccessful so i reinstalled with no wipe and ill see how that works has anyone else had this issue and if so... fixes?
i posted this thread hoping the developer will see it since i cant post on their development thread thanks
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setcpu is causing i suppose thats what i was doing the first time this time i went to change my settings as soon as i started setcpu it blackscreened dead nil zilch down for the count all i can do is download mode thank the android god haha but serious problem here POSSIBLE BRICKING howtomen & vlara please fix i really like ultimatum im going back to 2.0 have to work in 30 minutes
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Lol, your messing with the CPU with SetCPU, and you posted an issue about a bootloop, are you serious?
use the search function, wipe your phone completely, and dont mess with the CPU voltages.
Questions go in the question and answer section. When u provide a bug report or ask for assistance u have to provide more details than this. Unless it's a known bug, u should tell whoever yer asking for help what kernel u were running, if u had flashed any scripts or anything that may have led to the issue, if u did a full wipe before flashing, if u undervolted or underclocked, and if u had set your values to start up automatically on boot. As much information as u can give will help whoever is looking at your post diagnose what may have gone wrong.
Some more info will help us to help u.
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Thank you for not being a total jackass like a lot of people I was running setcpu at 1600-200 mhz, governer conservativ, I/o noop, no other changes I flashed from ultimatum 2.0 rc1- to ultimatum 2.1 using cwm no other objects flashed. As soon as it booted and said setcpu has been granted su access it restarted loop the finally black screened and I had to go to download mode and reflash stock root. If any other info has been left out just ask I work all night and I want to get into programming. I do plc programming on robotic equipment at my job and its fairly similar just more portable and if someone will move this to Q&A that would be great
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Ive never understood why people use setcpu... just curious try setting tthe same settings with voltage control... see what happens... if u get bootloops maybe your chip doesnt like oc/uv..
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
howtomen said:
Ive never understood why people use setcpu... just curious try setting tthe same settings with voltage control... see what happens... if u get bootloops maybe your chip doesnt like oc/uv.
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
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+1 I ran it back in the day, it worked with GB roms ok but I started having issues with reboots and read that set CPU is known for causing some issues
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I have already switched to voltage control and it gives better battery, much more stability, no boot problems, and so much more pros vs very little cons (only thing I have found is no stress test for CPU and your settings) and thanks for the reply I can now post future problems on your developer thread
att sgh-i777 running ultimatum 2.1
hey guys. im pretty new to this android thing im an ex iphone user.
i use this task-killer app to show me how much RAM i got left and it always
show something between 250-100 mb of ram left out of 1024.
when i try the Antutu Benchmark i only get a 6000 score when
i saw ppl get 11000+.
the GPU score is fine and the I\O is fine the RAM is way low then others and the CPU score is low too.
what may be causing this problem?
oh btw when i play games like NOVA 3 and Gangstar Rio it laggs as hell.
Ty.
No games should lag the S3.
Firstly what firmware are you on?
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No games should lag the S3.
Firstly what firmware are you on?
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im on 4.0.4.
yea it seems wierd to see souch a powerfull device lags.
i guess it has something to do with this low benchmark score i get..
Ok I was after the exact firmware revision and if you were using a custom Rom or not. Once that is established may be able to help a little more.
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You need to provide more info before any of us can help out. Provide which ROM & kernel you are using & if it's stock. do you freeze or uninstall bloatware? what apps do you have running or are there any running while the games are running?
Your total RAM is around 700ish since the OS uses the rest after that, so having 250 or lower is normal. I have yet to experience lag when running games like the ones you've listed & the only time I ever have experienced lag is when the home screen redraws.
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Ok I was after the exact firmware revision and if you were using a custom Rom or not. Once that is established may be able to help a little more.
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oh i see, im sorry
amm i ain't using any custom rom. though i know that my rom got some changes to get it to fit to my country.
what do u mean by firmware revision other than 4.0.4?
Did you flash any custom kernels? Only stock kernel seems to run right with heavy 3D games (ie, NOVA3), custom kernels always lag, then crash and reboot on me.
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hey guys. im pretty new to this android thing im an ex iphone user.
i use this task-killer app to show me how much RAM i got left and it always
show something between 250-100 mb of ram left out of 1024.
when i try the Antutu Benchmark i only get a 6000 score when
i saw ppl get 11000+.
the GPU score is fine and the I\O is fine the RAM is way low then others and the CPU score is low too.
what may be causing this problem?
oh btw when i play games like NOVA 3 and Gangstar Rio it laggs as hell.
Ty.
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This might be stupid, but where did you get your SGS3 at?
Honestly, Flash a stock ROM with Odin. I don't know if there are any one click master clear ones, but if you have the international there should have been any hacking needed to get it to work in your country.
Goto settings / about
Latest UK firmware ends lf2
Also check settings power savings and check cpu throttleing isn't on. Even with it on 6000 is real low. I hit 9000 with cup throttle on and my phone hasn't been rebooted in over a week.
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i havn't flashed anything and i got it from a licensed Samsung seller in Israel.
the problem is i know they do some modification to get it to work right
with their langauge.
and they install their own rom.
i only download games and apps never to touch rom/root.
it's the international version with quad core.
when i compare the result's i get on the Antutu Benchmark it show
i have half the score on the ram and processors then i saw on Youtube.
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the problem is i know they do some modification to get it to work right with their langauge. and they install their own rom.
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Oh hell naw. XXALF2, flash that... NOW.
Never heard of an international phone not working in Israel without a modification. Personally I'd connect it up to kies and see if there's an update available.
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Just thought I'd add that kies is the official Samsung application for updating your phone and won't break warranty etc.
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Did you flash any custom kernels? Only stock kernel seems to run right with heavy 3D games (ie, NOVA3), custom kernels always lag, then crash and reboot on me.
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Umm, just from the way he replied indicates he has no clue about flashing custom kernels. You can definitely scratch that off the list.
cmd512 said:
Oh hell naw. XXALF2, flash that... NOW.
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lol mayble ill sound naive but won't i lose my warranty?
i remember when i first took the benchmark test when the phone was
just out of the box it showed me 11500.
now 2 weeks after it gone in half.
is there a way to root without lossing warranty cuz i know their rom is not
out on the market yet.
the phone will work in israel without the modification but it will have some bugs with the langauge
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Just thought I'd add that kies is the official Samsung application for updating your phone and won't break warranty etc.
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that was my next questions
lol mayble ill sound naive but won't i lose my warranty?
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Yes and no. Odin uses the same update mechanism ('Download mode') as the official Samsung Kies (which btw is a grotesk, slow and painful-to-use application) so the phone won't be able to tell _WHAT_ updated it.
The phone is only capable of telling whether the ROM (=firmware) you're flashing is Samsung-official or some aftermarked custom ROM.
When it detects the ROM not to be official it will display a corresponding notice (and counter) in the Download mode. However there exists an app (which requires a rooted phone... which you usually got on custom roms) called 'Triangle Away' capable of resetting that counter to 0.
Now of course the store could still boot up the device and check if you're on the original ROM, so you'll have to flash a Samsung-official ROM corresponding to your location before bringing it back. There is no need to reset the counter afterwards since, as said, official ROM's don't trigger it to increment.
What if your phone is so damaged that you can't get it to go to download mode (more or less hardware-bricked)? Well in that case the store won't be able to check if the phone is (was) running non-official firmware. Samsung could but they don't always do since it requires dismantling the device and dumping the storage chip (provinding it still works). In case software caused it to brick (not boot) and it's unrecoverable, there are stores and send-in services around that for a couple of bucks revive your phone through JTAG flashing.
is there a way to root without lossing warranty cuz i know their rom is not out on the market yet.
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No.
the phone will work in israel without the modification but it will have some bugs with the langauge
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just out of the box it showed me 11500. now 2 weeks after it gone in half.
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The reason for your scores dropping might have several causes.
Please install 'Task Manager' by 'Houmiak', reboot your phone and open the Task Manager. Then kill all processes of programs you've installed which might have autostarted. (Note that some auto-restart as soon as they're killed, so you can't really get rid of them). If there are a lot of such apps,
try installing 'Autorun Manager' by 'Andrs Studio'.
Then run the benchmark again; is it significantly higher? If so, the reason most probably is that your app(s) are causing the issue.
d4fseeker said:
Yes and no. Odin uses the same update mechanism ('Download mode') as the official Samsung Kies (which btw is a grotesk, slow and painful-to-use application) so the phone won't be able to tell _WHAT_ updated it.
The phone is only capable of telling whether the ROM (=firmware) you're flashing is Samsung-official or some aftermarked custom ROM.
When it detects the ROM not to be official it will display a corresponding notice (and counter) in the Download mode. However there exists an app (which requires a rooted phone... which you usually got on custom roms) called 'Triangle Away' capable of resetting that counter to 0.
Now of course the store could still boot up the device and check if you're on the original ROM, so you'll have to flash a Samsung-official ROM corresponding to your location before bringing it back. There is no need to reset the counter afterwards since, as said, official ROM's don't trigger it to increment.
What if your phone is so damaged that you can't get it to go to download mode (more or less hardware-bricked)? Well in that case the store won't be able to check if the phone is (was) running non-official firmware. Samsung could but they don't always do since it requires dismantling the device and dumping the storage chip (provinding it still works). In case software caused it to brick (not boot) and it's unrecoverable, there are stores and send-in services around that for a couple of bucks revive your phone through JTAG flashing.
No.
The reason for your scores dropping might have several causes.
Please install 'Task Manager' by 'Houmiak', reboot your phone and open the Task Manager. Then kill all processes of programs you've installed which might have autostarted. (Note that some auto-restart as soon as they're killed, so you can't really get rid of them). If there are a lot of such apps,
try installing 'Autorun Manager' by 'Andrs Studio'.
Then run the benchmark again; is it significantly higher? If so, the reason most probably is that your app(s) are causing the issue.
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ty for the helpful reply.
i already use Task manager. ill try the other thing u said.
the wierd thing the benchmark isnt stable it can show me 6000 and on the next one it shows 8000.
UPDATE: it made it to 12000 once and i tried it again and it went below 10000
Another update:
It seems that the low score appears when the phone i hot like after
Playing a heavy game or after taking the antutu few times in a row.
Its getting lower and lower each test.
If someone please can try taking the test 4-5 time in a row
And publish the scores here ill be gratefull.
Then ill know for sure if my device is factory defected.
make sure you dont run the benchmark with the power saving mod on
Im running a fascinate with cm10 nightly, stock kernel. I was hoping to overclock cpu to 1200 mhz, and I can't figure out a way to do it. I tried changing the gorverner, but they're all capped at 1000 mhz. What can I do?
Lootzifer said:
Im running a fascinate with cm10 nightly, stock kernel. I was hoping to overclock cpu to 1200 mhz, and I can't figure out a way to do it. I tried changing the gorverner, but they're all capped at 1000 mhz. What can I do?
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You need a kernel that is capable of overclocking. If you look through the Development thread, you can find one to do so.
Lootzifer said:
Im running a fascinate with cm10 nightly, stock kernel. I was hoping to overclock cpu to 1200 mhz, and I can't figure out a way to do it. I tried changing the gorverner, but they're all capped at 1000 mhz. What can I do?
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youll wanna find the devil kernel in development
Lootzifer said:
Im running a fascinate with cm10 nightly, stock kernel. I was hoping to overclock cpu to 1200 mhz, and I can't figure out a way to do it. I tried changing the gorverner, but they're all capped at 1000 mhz. What can I do?
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download devil 1.6.1 for fascinate
Newest is 1.7.4 actually, get it from http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/Helly_Bean/kernel/
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Newest is 1.7.4 actually, get it from http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/Helly_Bean/kernel/
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Yeah, but at the time I didn't realize he made a new folder for 1.7., so I looked but all I found was 1.6.1.. but at least, 1.6.1 won't screw your Rom if you have an old partition (current being nightly cm10)--I learned that the hard way.
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Actually 1.6.1 was for the newer partition layout I think the last one he made for the old one was 1.5.4 or something. Anyway, he just released 1.7.5 last night, grab it from http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/jellybean/175/ :good::good:
im using the 1.7.5 release on LagFree
i dont want to overclock it tho because idk if it would mess up my phone .
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Actually 1.6.1 was for the newer partition layout I think the last one he made for the old one was 1.5.4 or something. Anyway, he just released 1.7.5 last night, grab it from http://rootaxbox.no-ip.org/derteufel/jellybean/175/ :good::good:
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[er, I kinda meant to say "if you have the new partition layout," not old..]
but well...... :S I was right and wrong, because the old partition layout [with /datadata] is technically the "old" layout [the one that everybody always had], until for some reason they decided to move it around, so that you only had 400MB for apps, which I quickly ran out of after restoring my TiBu apps...and then they finally came around and put /datdata back, so theoretically it's the "new" layout, but..well yeah, hopefully you know what I mean.
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[er, I kinda meant to say "if you have the new partition layout," not old..]
but well...... :S I was right and wrong, because the old partition layout [with /datadata] is technically the "old" layout [the one that everybody always had], until for some reason they decided to move it around, so that you only had 400MB for apps, which I quickly ran out of after restoring my TiBu apps...and then they finally came around and put /datdata back, so theoretically it's the "new" layout, but..well yeah, hopefully you know what I mean.
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The reason it was moved around and suddenly you only had around 400MB was because the Fassy has 2 chips, 1 is fast as hell and the other is slow. Problem was, the fast chip only had so much storage space, so that was the trade off, good performance but poor storage space. For the newest layout, Jt didn't simply just 'put back' /datadata, the new layout actually is a completely new arrangement that gives us the fast speed AND storage space. If you want to read about it go over to the CM10 thread on Rootzwiki, Jt explained what he did. What this means in practical terms is that we now have a device with good speed and storage space that can handle the newer Android OSes :good:
whats the worst that can happen if you overclock ?
AndroidGee209 said:
whats the worst that can happen if you overclock ?
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Short term: Glitchy behavior (freezing/crashing/etc) and random reboots (this is more likely if you're doing Live OC versus just bumping up your CPU MHz)
Long term: Shortened device lifetime due to component stress; in other words if you plan to use your phone for a very long time don't overclock
Not all phones react the same way to overclocking, you might not get the same results as others are. For example, a lot of people seem to have good luck with 110% Live OC, however I can only get 105% on my phone before it becomes unstable.
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The reason it was moved around and suddenly you only had around 400MB was because the Fassy has 2 chips, 1 is fast as hell and the other is slow. Problem was, the fast chip only had so much storage space, so that was the trade off, good performance but poor storage space. For the newest layout, Jt didn't simply just 'put back' /datadata, the new layout actually is a completely new arrangement that gives us the fast speed AND storage space. If you want to read about it go over to the CM10 thread on Rootzwiki, Jt explained what he did. What this means in practical terms is that we now have a device with good speed and storage space that can handle the newer Android OSes :good:
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Exactly
AndroidGee209 said:
whats the worst that can happen if you overclock ?
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You remember that Mayan end of the World thing...
Crawshayi said:
Short term: Glitchy behavior (freezing/crashing/etc) and random reboots (this is more likely if you're doing Live OC versus just bumping up your CPU MHz)
Long term: Shortened device lifetime due to component stress; in other words if you plan to use your phone for a very long time don't overclock
Not all phones react the same way to overclocking, you might not get the same results as others are. For example, a lot of people seem to have good luck with 110% Live OC, however I can only get 105% on my phone before it becomes unstable.
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Again, exactly...
Yep I accidently at my OC too high once and I got an immediate reboot, setting itself back to std
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Looking for advice here. I have no idea if this is hardware, software, something I'm doing wrong. I'd say the past year of having my note, it's painfully laggy. I've tried most of the more popular roms that are released. It's not always horribly slow.. but just about any time I switch to any new app, it becomes temporarily unresponsive. I've just come to terms with this thinking it is what it is.
I'm currently running the first cm 4.3 nightly, with the Uber kernel, running Jamie's settings. I've never been too into modding kernel stuff, so I don't know if I should look there first. but yeah.. any help would be appreciated. Just sick of the inconsistent speed
thanks!
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Since you said this was with all roms you flashed, I'm going to guess something you're doing.
This is usually due to not properly formatting data and system areas before flashing, and also improperly restoring apps after flashing.
Install Black Star X or an ICS based ROM. If it's laggy, it's your phone. If it's not, it's because you've been trying jelly bean ROMs.
cgibsong002 said:
Looking for advice here. I have no idea if this is hardware, software, something I'm doing wrong. I'd say the past year of having my note, it's painfully laggy. I've tried most of the more popular roms that are released. It's not always horribly slow.. but just about any time I switch to any new app, it becomes temporarily unresponsive. I've just come to terms with this thinking it is what it is.
I'm currently running the first cm 4.3 nightly, with the Uber kernel, running Jamie's settings. I've never been too into modding kernel stuff, so I don't know if I should look there first. but yeah.. any help would be appreciated. Just sick of the inconsistent speed
thanks!
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What is your flashing procedure? do you do the proper wipes... wait a bit after install before touching or changing much, rebooting like 4 times at least to let it settle in?
What clock speed / governor are you running?
undervolted?
SD boosting cache write amount, if any?
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What is your flashing procedure? do you do the proper wipes... wait a bit after install before touching or changing much, rebooting like 4 times at least to let it settle in?
What clock speed / governor are you running?
undervolted?
SD boosting cache write amount, if any?
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Ok.. I'll try to give my best answers.
Using TWRP, i'll go to wipe>system, then factory reset (data/cache).
Then flash the rom, then gapps if necessary.
Settle? Eh, I usually try to let it. I've also heard from the Devs there's no actual reason to do this, it's just to stop people from complaining the first 10 minutes of using the rom.
As for the other stuff... I've never really messed with it. After flashing the UBer kernel I tried to follow some settings I saw jamie recommend.. ondemand governer. That's really it.
Do I need to get more into tweaking frequency profiles, voltage, etc? different governors?
And btw.. yes, these are all JB roms. I refuse to use ICS.
cgibsong002 said:
Ok.. I'll try to give my best answers.
Using TWRP, i'll go to wipe>system, then factory reset (data/cache).
Then flash the rom, then gapps if necessary.
Settle? Eh, I usually try to let it. I've also heard from the Devs there's no actual reason to do this, it's just to stop people from complaining the first 10 minutes of using the rom.
As for the other stuff... I've never really messed with it. After flashing the UBer kernel I tried to follow some settings I saw jamie recommend.. ondemand governer. That's really it.
Do I need to get more into tweaking frequency profiles, voltage, etc? different governors?
And btw.. yes, these are all JB roms. I refuse to use ICS.
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Storage saturation is far more important than any of the factors we've spoken about.
Just answer this one question. Have you ever moved an app to your SD Card?
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Storage saturation is far more important than any of the factors we've spoken about.
Just answer this one question. Have you ever moved an app to your SD Card?
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I went to apps>sd card in settings. It appears my user downloaded apps are all on my SD card. I'm guessing thats a problem. How would I change that? That's nothing I ever did, that's a default.
edit: nvm. I misinterpreted that screen. XDA app was the only one that was checked off for on sd card. They're all on my phone.
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I went to apps>sd card in settings. It appears my user downloaded apps are all on my SD card. I'm guessing thats a problem. How would I change that? That's nothing I ever did, that's a default.
edit: nvm. I misinterpreted that screen. XDA app was the only one that was checked off for on sd card. They're all on my phone.
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Sorry, I should have been more specific.
I meant moving your apps to your external SD Card when the internal storage (the 2gb /data partition) got full.
Moving as few as little as a single app to your external SD card can dramatically slow down android (for some reason). Nonetheless, a full partition elsewhere can still effect performance significantly.
Download "Storage Analyzer" from the Play Store, and see if any of your partitions are particularly full.
I try to keep 300mb or more free on all of them.
Additionally, you can wipe cache & dalvik.
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And btw.. yes, these are all JB roms. I refuse to use ICS.
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Then be content knowing you're trading speed and stability to satisfy your need to say you run jb
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Ok.. I'll try to give my best answers.
Using TWRP, i'll go to wipe>system, then factory reset (data/cache).
Then flash the rom, then gapps if necessary.
Settle? Eh, I usually try to let it. I've also heard from the Devs there's no actual reason to do this, it's just to stop people from complaining the first 10 minutes of using the rom.
As for the other stuff... I've never really messed with it. After flashing the UBer kernel I tried to follow some settings I saw jamie recommend.. ondemand governer. That's really it.
Do I need to get more into tweaking frequency profiles, voltage, etc? different governors?
And btw.. yes, these are all JB roms. I refuse to use ICS.
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1. if you have been around at all, then you would know many wipe as many as 3 times.
2. I don't know what dev's told you there is no reason.........there is and it not to stop people from complaining. that sounds pretty selfish to me and the folk who develop here are far from that. I am not sure of he actual terminology, but the data basically needs to work its way through the system. your phone needs to read all this new system it is supposed to run.
some developers will even flash rom, then flash rom again with gapps. let it boot and settle the 10. then boot it again. set it up and then boot yet again and wiping davlik and cache every flash.
3. many developers ill also suggest you give rom a day or so with stock kernel. if you make so many changes so fast how do you know what working or whats not?
but hey if that's all to much trouble for you, to have a phone run the way you are expecting it to....... congratulations. your phone is perfect.
I apologize if this sounds harsh, it just sounds like you expect your phone to run flawlessly, but you don't want to exhaust what minimal efforts are needed to get it that way.
good luck my friend
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I just went back an double checked your post count. you are definitely not a newbie here. a lot of this should be common practice for you, even if you were coming from another device.
cgibsong002 said:
Ok.. I'll try to give my best answers.
Using TWRP, i'll go to wipe>system, then factory reset (data/cache).
Then flash the rom, then gapps if necessary.
Settle? Eh, I usually try to let it. I've also heard from the Devs there's no actual reason to do this, it's just to stop people from complaining the first 10 minutes of using the rom.
As for the other stuff... I've never really messed with it. After flashing the UBer kernel I tried to follow some settings I saw jamie recommend.. ondemand governer. That's really it.
Do I need to get more into tweaking frequency profiles, voltage, etc? different governors?
And btw.. yes, these are all JB roms. I refuse to use ICS.
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Playing with JB roms you have to keep in mind that the radio you are on, and corresponding certs/ril/PRL .. etc, will most likely not be made for that rom and have your radio switching back n forth, left, right, n all around looking for a signal because it isnt configured right... that being said, your kernel is an integral part of the whole package and should also be flashed properly (wipe CACHE/DALVIK) at least once.. 3-4 times is proper. Go into settings, select remove method of -rm .. and repeat the wipes. Then flash kernel on top of an already settled rom ... or sometimes you flash the kernel before you even boot into the rom (my preference when possible). FIX PERMISSIONS . . always. Then sometimes do a Cache/Dalvik wipe AGaIN after the flash , especially if instructed. Same goes for flashing radios.
When flashing a ROM .. you gotta wipe everything except the external SD (Assuming you didnt move apps/data) there... remove android secure with a wipe, system wiped, boot, dalvik, cache, system, factory reset, internal SD, wipe wipe wipe wipe. If you have ever looked at the partitions after only one wipe you will know why all the fuss.
Assuming you flashed PERFECT, no dirty overlapping/conflicting stuff going on, and the rom has executed its post install scripts without being messed with, reboots done a few times to break it in.. the kernel you flash will have to be configured to the hardwares capabilities. Not all can be undervolted and or overclocked the same. . SD boost cache size is almost a must 1024 - 2048 or whatever are adequate .. might wanna do a benchmark in ROM Manager to see where your SD sees the best performance. Also, the IO scheduler type (sio, noop, cfq, vr, etc)
On demand is a good balanced governor but its only one in many variables... SD Swap.. dalvik vm heap sizes, JIT
pretty sure you know how to get into dev mode with those roms.. enable debugging .. if not, just go to phone info and hit the build a buncha times . .
memory and task management is another thing.. how many things you got loading at startup .. what is managing memory to close unwanted processes etc. .
Android Tune + ROM Manager should take care of that.. .
I've found the latest beanstalk rom with the latest uberkernel 4.3 and the Blaze modem isn't laggy but I have a new factory-refurbished phone. I have not moved any of the apps to the SDcard. But then again I don't have any games on the phone and I just came from an old Galaxy S 4g so I may not have any idea of what lag is. I noticed that some of the 4.3 roms, the Pac-Man nightlies, for instance, seemed slow enough so that I immediately flashed back to Beanstalk.
this may be another question, but I've noticed that the IO scores -- file system writes and database reads -- come out a bit slow on quadrant. On my previous phone, there was a script that sped that up, but I don't know what the equivalent would be for this phone and jelly bean.