Other than the Netflix capability, are there other functional differences between the two ROMs? I've been running Vegan-Tab since receiving my GTablet but being a tinkerer (though, not too adventurous), I was thinking about flashing a new ROM.
Thanks for your thoughts.
I'd like to add to your question if I could, as I've been feeling the same. If I opt for Cyanogen, if I am currently running Vegan 5.1.1, can I use the 'recovery method' to load it on from Vegan (would want the nightlies), or just use CWM? Basically, just wondering if I need to resort back to stock or anything.
You can load it from cwm just like any 1.1 rom.
I really like CM7. Its been really stable for me. Its worth a flash in my opinion.
CM7 runs Android 2.3.3 (soon to be 2.3.4) and Vegan runs Android 2.2. That in a big difference. The file structure for CM7 is a little funky at times also. I prefer Vegan 5.1.1 over CM7 but that's just my opinion. Both firmwares are made by very talented developers.
I just answered to another post in the general section about this very thing...
I have two gTabs (one running VEGAn 5.1.1 and one running CynogenMod 7.0.3). The VEGAn 5.1.1 gTab takes about 30 to 45 seconds to boot up when powered on, the CynogenMod 7.0.3 takes about 2 minutes to boot up when powered on.
VEGAn 5.1.1 is really fast. That and if you install and use the VTL Launcher it makes the gTAB a pretty nice experience. It doesn't let me watch movies via the Netflix app but I can watch any of my ripped dvd movie files (xvid-avi) without any issues with the stock video player.
CyanogenMod 7.0.3 is also fast (once it finally boots up) and it has location tracking via wi-fi that is really accurate and also let's you install and run and stream movies via the Netflix app if you have a Netflix account without problems (if you install the Netflix apk with the device check disabled). But I have yet to play a single movie file from one of my ripped dvds on it even using RockPlayer or Mobo Player. Everytime I try and open one of the xvid-avi movies the app starts like its going to play the movie but then within a second it shuts down without any errors or messages.
So, they both have use to me today but if somebody can get Netflix to stream movies on VEGAn I will probably leave CyanogenMod.
Anyway, you should be able to flash either roms via ClockworkMod version .08 (bekit) on your gTab without issues since that is what I've been doing since I've bought these gTabs back in November of last year. Just remember to clear data/cache/davik cache for best results.
Good luck.
Well, there's Vegan Ginger as well. That's 2.3.3, and it was based on CM7. It has lots of nice little modifications (such as the void.fstab change already incorporated so the internal memory stays as /sdcard instead of /emmc) already incorporated, but there hasn't been a lot of news from GoJimi since RC1 was released. CM7 has advanced, including resolving most issues on the Gtab.
Also, since it's being updated constantly (via the nightlies), I get the sense that all of the issues will be straightened out, and I have some sense of what to expect in each update. It's for that reason more than anything that I switched to CM7 a while back. I'm running the most recent nightly.
The big issues with CM7 are currently two-fold:
1. Void.fstab mounts the internal memory as /emmc, which is what Google wants. However, applications want to use /sdcard, so you'll want to flash the void.fstab fix that you can find by searching on these forums.
2. Boot times. I'm not sure what the issue is, but after you install quite a few apps, especially if you install them via a non-Market source, the boot time increases. It takes about 75 seconds for my tablet to boot; my phone boots in about 20. Once it's booted, though, it works well, so typically I only reboot it once a week or so.
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Are the mods of CM7 preferred over straight CM7? Also, just to get HW accel, should one stick with Vegan 5.1?
Just ordered my G Tab from Amazon and wondering what ROM I should jump to.
Thanks for your time.
Each ROM has it's fans but I've been running VEGAn 5.1.1 since it was posted and for me and my needs from a tablet it's rock solid without a bunch of force closes or other issues like I've read other people report about other roms or tweaks (like using different kernels) they've made to them after they've flashed a flavor of rom.
I use my gTAB for games, reading books/magazines/comics, accessing my work computers, watching ripped videos, watching flash videos on sites like HULU (needs hacked Flash) or Fox Television (doesn't need hacked Flash). And I've had access to the Market with almost every app I've needed or wanted show up without any tweaks.
In the end it's really up to the user and what the user wants out of their tablet.
I moved to the Vegan GB ROM mainly because, for some reason, Flash kept malfunctioning on any of the 2.2 ROMs I used. I miss watching videos, but hopefully a GB driver is forthcoming.
On the 2.2 side, I preferred Calkulin's ROM (with pershoot's Froyo kernel) because it was fast, and I also thought it was more tablet-oriented.
My advice is, while your tab is still new and you don't have it as customized as you will in the future, flash every ROM available and take them for a test spin. I'd run Calkulin's Format All zip before every ROM install just to be safe.
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My advice is, while your tab is still new and you don't have it as customized as you will in the future, flash every ROM available and take them for a test spin. I'd run Calkulin's Format All zip before every ROM install just to be safe.
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Considering how easy it is to do, I second this. It's pretty much what I did before settling on VEGAn 5.11, although I think I may try VEGAn Ginger again.
I am running CM7 on the Gtab without any issues. I chose CM7 rom since I am familiar with it because I am using that on my DInc.
Yeah I was considering VEGAn Ginger too. Let's see how much free time I have this weekend.
I am running cm7 on mine....since all the other versions are based off cm7 anyway. Cyanogenmod does an update and pushes it out...I don't have to wait for the others to update their source base from cm and merge in their rom edits.
Sent from my Viewsonic 10" GTab...CM7 style...
Vanilla AOSP Gingerbread:
if you don't mind configuring it alot. I've found it to be faster than any of the Tnts and Vegans. It's supposed to be as close to Google's code as possible. I've also found it to have the most complete market out of all the other roms!
where can one download said hacked flash?
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Each ROM has it's fans but I've been running VEGAn 5.1.1 since it was posted and for me and my needs from a tablet it's rock solid without a bunch of force closes or other issues like I've read other people report about other roms or tweaks (like using different kernels) they've made to them after they've flashed a flavor of rom.
I use my gTAB for games, reading books/magazines/comics, accessing my work computers, watching ripped videos, watching flash videos on sites like HULU (needs hacked Flash) or Fox Television (doesn't need hacked Flash). And I've had access to the Market with almost every app I've needed or wanted show up without any tweaks.
In the end it's really up to the user and what the user wants out of their tablet.
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where can i get the hacked flash? i downloaded a 10.1 hacked from a link, but then hulu said i needed a newer flash,
I use CM7 with Pershoot's kernel and VTL Launcher. I've found it quite nice since they integrated in the tablet tweaks. I don't watch videos on it, though, so I haven't had to worry about hardware acceleration. Though, apparently, the last stable release and nightly gives some NVidia tuning, though not full hardware acceleration like Froyo, from what I gather.
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I use CM7 with Pershoot's kernel and VTL Launcher. I've found it quite nice since they integrated in the tablet tweaks. I don't watch videos on it, though, so I haven't had to worry about hardware acceleration. Though, apparently, the last stable release and nightly gives some NVidia tuning, though not full hardware acceleration like Froyo, from what I gather.
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I was on CM7... switched to VEGANginger to get screenshots, which still don't work on CM7. When they get screenshots working over there, I may go back
I'm running Corwins CM7 build as it has the ad hoc script built in. I would like to use the original build of CM7 but I'm having trouble with getting it to ad hoc, any advice on how to add that functionality?
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where can i get the hacked flash? i downloaded a 10.1 hacked from a link, but then hulu said i needed a newer flash,
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You can get the hacked libflashplayer.so file for flash 10.2 here. You need to install the standard flash 10.2 first, though. It's available on the market, but you can also get it here if it doesn't show up in the market for you. I've been running it on CM 7.0.2 and it works great; just make sure to set your browser to desktop (in stock browser, Menu>Settings>Select User Agent; I set mine to linux desktop) and configure the run at boot file transfer script (instructions are in the post).
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Are the mods of CM7 preferred over straight CM7? Also, just to get HW accel, should one stick with Vegan 5.1?
Just ordered my G Tab from Amazon and wondering what ROM I should jump to.
Thanks for your time.
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I have been running CM7 on my gTab since day 1. Very happy with it!
Download the attached zip to mount the internal SD card as /sdcard instead of /emmc if you wish.
You can also Google "CM7GBMod3.zip" to remove all unnecessary CM7 apps to give you a cleaner feel.
If so have you found anything that was not working on it? I am currently running VEGAn Ginger and want to try the HC but I want to know what is not working before taking the time to nvflash and install new ROM.
No, but
Many things are still not workin, but there are great improvements daily. I think it wont be long to say a stable beta version.
So i would suggest to be patient and wait till the beta is out
Thanks, I will stay with VEGAn for now until then.
I loaded a2.2 and it is pretty good. They updated the email apps in a2.3. The only things now not really working are hd video, camera, flash (not sure if flash is working in further updates). Overall, for me the things that are missing are already missing in vegan rc1 (hd video and camera) so I am gonna stay with honeycomb and continue updating as new updates come out. It is nice and streamlined.
Been running every iteration. I've stuck with a2.1 now for a bit.
After this update, they have the overclocking kernel back in place and my gtab hates that. So I reverted back to 2.1, and then just copied the working email and gmail apps over.
Just missing the flash, who cares about the camera.
Came from Vegan Ginger, so the only thing this doesnt have over that is the working flash. But to be honest, its been a lot more stable than ginger ever was.
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I loaded a2.2 and it is pretty good. They updated the email apps in a2.3. The only things now not really working are hd video, camera, flash (not sure if flash is working in further updates). Overall, for me the things that are missing are already missing in vegan rc1 (hd video and camera) so I am gonna stay with honeycomb and continue updating as new updates come out. It is nice and streamlined.
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When you update do you have to reflash the tablet?
Where can I get the honeycomb build for the point of view tablet,
http://cgi.ebay.com/140549831346?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D140549831346%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_4538wt_1065
Quick Update:
I installed a2.2 and it is crazy fast. 1900 quadrant before OC 2900+ after OC. Only caveat is the wifi crashes and the camera issues. Waiting for RC now.
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Quick Update:
I installed a2.2 and it is crazy fast. 1900 quadrant before OC 2900+ after OC. Only caveat is the wifi crashes and the camera issues. Waiting for RC now.
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You need to update to 2.4 - a good bit was fixed. Still no camera or OpenGL, but almost everything I need is fine as wine!
(I still am not happy with Asus-based 3.X yet - hoping for an Acer-based version 2.5 or something higher ... or version 4)
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Where can I get the honeycomb build for the point of view tablet,
http://cgi.ebay.com/140549831346?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp5197.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D140549831346%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_4538wt_1065
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Pretty sure that is just running the Adam or Bottle of Smoke ROM.
The 3.01 they reference is the Honeycomb version, the 2.X referred to here is version of the Bottle of Smoke mod by Roebeet.
Bottle of Smoke
Just got it running today. It took me several hours to figure out the process, but I have successfully loaded the software. I am running Smoke Alpha 3.3. I am experiencing problems with wifi which seems to only be available for about 10-20 minutes. Once it stops working I have to restart the system. I can't scan or restart wifi from with in settings. I did get vulkano to work but it to locked up when I tried to change channels. I couldn't get Dolphin HD to work -- it loads but won't render any web pages, but Firefox beta (5) seems to work just fine. For some reason I can't download opera 11 from the market but other apps install with not problem. I have tried a few basic games (for the grand kids) and they seem to be working ok.
Does anyone know if Netflix is working for Bottle of Smoke??
Not on my viewsonic. You can access your queue but you can't view any videos.
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Just got it running today. It took me several hours to figure out the process, but I have successfully loaded the software. I am running Smoke Alpha 3.3. I am experiencing problems with wifi which seems to only be available for about 10-20 minutes. Once it stops working I have to restart the system. I can't scan or restart wifi from with in settings. I did get vulkano to work but it to locked up when I tried to change channels. I couldn't get Dolphin HD to work -- it loads but won't render any web pages, but Firefox beta (5) seems to work just fine. For some reason I can't download opera 11 from the market but other apps install with not problem. I have tried a few basic games (for the grand kids) and they seem to be working ok.
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Except for Opera, all of those are (well) documented issues. Read through the last 10-20 pages in Roebeet's BoS thread at Slatedroid and you will see many other people talking about the same things.
johnqfig said:
Just got it running today. It took me several hours to figure out the process, but I have successfully loaded the software. I am running Smoke Alpha 3.3. I am experiencing problems with wifi which seems to only be available for about 10-20 minutes. Once it stops working I have to restart the system. I can't scan or restart wifi from with in settings. I did get vulkano to work but it to locked up when I tried to change channels. I couldn't get Dolphin HD to work -- it loads but won't render any web pages, but Firefox beta (5) seems to work just fine. For some reason I can't download opera 11 from the market but other apps install with not problem. I have tried a few basic games (for the grand kids) and they seem to be working ok.
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which version, where did you get it, link please and what was the process?
I have been thinking about adding CM7 to my TP. I just had a few question.
If I add CM7 will I lose anything on WebOS?
If I have a problem with CM7 can it permently effect my TP? (brick or get stuck some how in CM and not be able to go back to just WebOS)
Is the TP faster on CM7 or WebOS how is the battery life?
I use my TP for mostly web surfing and email. I would like to have more choices in browsers and be able to use Netflix, Hulu, etc...
I have everything I need to install it on my PC I just wanted to have a few questions answer before I started. Thanks for any help.
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I have been thinking about adding CM7 to my TP. I just had a few question.
If I add CM7 will I lose anything on WebOS?
No
If I have a problem with CM7 can it permently effect my TP? (brick or get stuck some how in CM and not be able to go back to just WebOS)
You can use the ACME Uninstaller to go back to just webOS.
Is the TP faster on CM7 or WebOS how is the battery life?
I feel it is faster, but it was never slow on webOS. Battery life is less than webOS.
I use my TP for mostly web surfing and email. I would like to have more choices in browsers and be able to use Netflix, Hulu, etc...
I have everything I need to install it on my PC I just wanted to have a few questions answer before I started. Thanks for any help.
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I installed CM7. ran ACMEuninstaller. Ran webosDoctor. reinstalled CM7.
All you will loose is the 2 gigs used to install cm7 its very safe now to install and easy. Don't be scared do it and you will love your new android tablet.
BaT420 said:
All you will loose is the 2 gigs used to install cm7 its very safe now to install and easy. Don't be scared do it and you will love your new android tablet.
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I just installed it and so far so good. I seem like it was made for the TP. The only problem I'm having is trying to add my hotmail accounts because my gmail is fine. Anyone know how to add hotmail to my accounts? I'm not sure what server to tell it. Thanks again for all the help
Web os is slow on certain aspects like screen responsiveness and typing in web browser where android side does not have these issues
I figured out the email thing. This is from my cm7 enhanced TP.
I have a 32gb TP, running 3.0.4 (updated OTA), Uberkernel @ 1.5, many patches from preware plus performance tweaks (logging, etc.).
I've been an Android user for years, but I liked webOS so much that I considered not installing CM7. I installed Alpha 2.1, then updated to 3.0, and am now running xron 3.3.2, a tweaked CM7 Rom.
I don't find webOS laggy at all. I think it performs as fast, if not faster than Android. For me, the battery life is better on webOS.
It's a pleasure being able to boot into either os at will.
Like a previous poster noted, you can get back to just webOS by using 'uninstaller'.
I strongly reccomend installing Android and the multi-boot capability of Moboot. It's like having 2 tablets.
Now it went from bad to worst. It was ok for the first few days then it stopped connecting to the android and amazon market. Tonight the touch screen stopped working. I tried to restart it and now the screen is black but you can see the backlight on. So, what do I do now?
update: I held the power and home button for awhile and now it's working.
Hello - I've been using Vegan Tab 5 since I got my gtablet last Christmas. It has been pretty nice except that the power/screen button always glitches, and every so often corrupts the profile and I have to wipe all my user data and start fresh.
I have the market, flash/hulu, and the camera working. So my question is, since I just had to wipe it again and start over, what is/is there a current, most stable installation I can use that will have the same features - market, wifi, flash/hulu, camera, and does not crash and force a wipe from the damn power button?
Gingerbread? Honeycomb? Flashback? Beasty/Clemsyn Ultimate Froyo?
If there are awesome new features in newer ROMs that don't have a working camera (I think I read something about that in Honeycomb) let me know. My daughter will be disappointed but thats ok
Thanks
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Hello - I've been using Vegan Tab 5 since I got my gtablet last Christmas. It has been pretty nice except that the power/screen button always glitches, and every so often corrupts the profile and I have to wipe all my user data and start fresh.
I have the market, flash/hulu, and the camera working. So my question is, since I just had to wipe it again and start over, what is/is there a current, most stable installation I can use that will have the same features - market, wifi, flash/hulu, camera, and does not crash and force a wipe from the damn power button?
Gingerbread? Honeycomb? Flashback? Beasty/Clemsyn Ultimate Froyo?
If there are awesome new features in newer ROMs that don't have a working camera (I think I read something about that in Honeycomb) let me know. My daughter will be disappointed but thats ok
Thanks
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You might consider moving to a 1.2Bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392761
Try a HC based ROM FB 10.3. It's pretty slick.
If you prefer a FROYO base, Beasty/clem Ultimate is stable also..ans very fast
to make your current problem go away, you need to back up your apps/tab and NVflash and reinstall your current ROM
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You might consider moving to a 1.2Bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392761
Try a HC based ROM FB 10.3. It's pretty slick.
If you prefer a FROYO base, Beasty/clem Ultimate is stable also..ans very fast
to make your current problem go away, you need to back up your apps/tab and NVflash and reinstall your current ROM
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While I do agree Flashback ROM is very pretty, I've had zero luck with Flashback ROM concerning a fully working and stable Flash Player. I watch a lot of streaming videos on my gTab on Hulu, CBS, FOX, Amazon Prime, etc... and I've tried with Flashback 10.1 and 10.3 and neither of them would let me watch videos via Flash Player.
So, after trying VEGAn 5.1.1, CyanogenMod 7.0.1, VEGAn Ginger, Mountain Laurel 3.1.0, and Flashback 10.1/10.3 I've come back to VEGAn 5.1.1 because it's the most stable and fastest for me (with pershoot's latest FroYo kernel).
I've also used VEGAn 5.1.1 off and on for the better part of a year but haven't had the issues the OP is reporting where my profile gets corrupt forcing a wipe/restore. I guess I've been lucky.
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While I do agree Flashback ROM is very pretty, I've had zero luck with Flashback ROM concerning a fully working and stable Flash Player. I watch a lot of streaming videos on my gTab on Hulu, CBS, FOX, Amazon Prime, etc... and I've tried with Flashback 10.1 and 10.3 and neither of them would let me watch videos via Flash Player.
So, after trying VEGAn 5.1.1, CyanogenMod 7.0.1, VEGAn Ginger, Mountain Laurel 3.1.0, and Flashback 10.1/10.3 I've come back to VEGAn 5.1.1 because it's the most stable and fastest for me (with pershoot's latest FroYo kernel).
I've also used VEGAn 5.1.1 off and on for the better part of a year but haven't had the issues the OP is reporting where my profile gets corrupt forcing a wipe/restore. I guess I've been lucky.
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From my experience, funny things happening is usually due to corruption data.
NVflash/wipe usually restore most functions.
I don't use flash much, so I didn't care much about streaming.
I'd just tried out Beasty/Clem Ultimate...It is very fast and stable as well...
Thanks for the advice. Flash is pretty important for me, so it sounds like I'm using the right build for my needs.
I wish i didn't have issues with the power button, but wiping/flashing isn't the end of the world. It doesn't happen very often, but occasionally when the screen sleeps, the button won't bring it back up. After few tries the tab reboots and then sometimes i end up with a corrupt profile and it wont startup.
I'll learn to live with it.
Thanks again
Power button sleep
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Thanks for the advice. Flash is pretty important for me, so it sounds like I'm using the right build for my needs.
I wish i didn't have issues with the power button, but wiping/flashing isn't the end of the world. It doesn't happen very often, but occasionally when the screen sleeps, the button won't bring it back up. After few tries the tab reboots and then sometimes i end up with a corrupt profile and it wont startup.
I'll learn to live with it.
Thanks again
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I had this problem as well. I read a post on this site to use a program on the Market Place called Wifi lock or Wifi keep alive, seems to work for me. The problem is when the Wifi goes to sleep.
As for the new ROM I have just upgraded to Vegan Tab 7.1 files can be found here
http://vegantab.gojimi.com/2011/08/26/vegan-tab-gingeredition-7-1-0-for-bootloaders-1-1-and-1-2/
Do not upgrade Google Maps this will cause force close for maps you need to stay on an older version I’m using 5.5.0.
I am currently running CM7 installed from SD card. (Thanks CelticWebSolutions, and others) Works great, but occasionally I need to reboot the tablet, either because something crashes, or I just turn it off when I know I'm not going to use it for a while, or (most often) when my 3-year-old holds down the power button just to see what will happen. When I reboot, I have to have the USB cable plugged in, or it defaults to the stock Barnes & Noble software. This is not really a problem, but...
I realize I have no use, ever, for the stock software.
If I install the internal CM7 (or CM9 or any other ROM, for that matter) will it completely overwrite the stock software? What I would like, in a perfect world, is a Nexus 7 with an SD card. Failing this, I'd prefer that my Nook never even knew it had ever been a Nook. I would like an experience as close to stock Android as possible (any version, I don't care). I would like to be able to hand the tablet to my 3-year-old to play with without him constantly rebooting back into B&N.
I appreciate any help or advise. Please bear in mind, though, that I'm still kind of new at this whole Android thing. I may not be a complete idiot, but it might be best if you assume that I am...
Thanks in advance!!!
P.S. Today, for the first time, NetFlix has stopped working. When I try to start NetFlix, it instantly goes to a black screen, pauses for several seconds, and boots back into the stock B&N software.
However, if I start NetFlix from the stock B&N software, it works just fine (though it is an older version of the NF app).
Curiouser and curiouser...
Yes it will override, you need to flash CM7 from CWM recovery. Then format your sdcard with sdformatter (recommended)
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P.S. Today, for the first time, NetFlix has stopped working. When I try to start NetFlix, it instantly goes to a black screen, pauses for several seconds, and boots back into the stock B&N software.
However, if I start NetFlix from the stock B&N software, it works just fine (though it is an older version of the NF app).
Curiouser and curiouser...
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In CM7 you need an custom version of Netflix and don't update it, at list that was an use with the alpha final build I haven't tested with the latest beta build but If you need the Netflix ans hulu apps for CM7 let me know
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In CM7 you need an custom version of Netflix and don't update it, at list that was an use with the alpha final build I haven't tested with the latest beta build but If you need the Netflix ans hulu apps for CM7 let me know
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Thanks, Man!
I probably did update NetFlix. It was working just fine, so I'll go ahead and install CM7 internally, as recommended. I'll let you know if I have any trouble.