[Q] Speaker Phone Flip - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Verizon HTC Thunderbolt and I regularly use the flip feature while on the phone to enable my speaker phone. I turn my phone face down on a flat surface and the speaker phone is automatically enabled. I reverse the process and the speaker phone is automatically disabled. Recently this feature stopped working and now when I put my phone face down the speaker phone no longer automatically starts. Can you please help me restore this feature?

Go into your sound settings and make sure "flip for speaker" is checked.

I confirmed that "Flip for Speaker" is checked. While Googling for a possible solution I encountered a recommendation to try gently dropping the phone, face down, on a soft surface, to "recalibrate its proximity", I tried that and it worked. My speaker phone now works again when I flip it over.

Could you be a little more specific about how you got it to work exactly because I haven't been able to get mine to work since day 1. Basically list the steps you did in order for you to get it working again. Thanks

I held my phone, face down, over the carpet, about 6 inches from the ground and deliberately dropped it. Then I picked it up, started a phone call, flipped my phone like normal and it automatically switched to speaker phone.

I did that and it stil didn't work. I had to start a call then drop it like you said and then the speaker turned on. After ending the call I called again to see if that fixed it but it still didn't work. In order for me to get it to work i have to drop it everytime I want the speaker to turn on?????

Troubleshooting steps:
1) hardware or software? Download "android sensor data" from the market. Observe the readings as you rotate your phone. If the readings don't move, your sensor is broken and you need a replacement.
2) if they do move, and accurately, its software. Google will yield ways to re-calibrate as well as how to enable the feature.
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I'll be damned...that worked!!!

Ya, you don't have to drop the phone to get it to work. You can usually just "tap" the phone against your hand or shake the phone to get the sensors to get "unstuck".
I have a question for those with the issue. Are you using any kind of case with a magnetic clasp?
I know they say it doesn't affect the phones, but ever since I had a G1, I've never used any cases with magnets in them because they always seemed to mess up all the sensors.
Just something I've observed over the years.

I am using the seidio Convert 3-in-1 but i'm pretty sure there's no magnet in it.
Still working on the sensor info. Will post results
Thanks for all the help

I've had the exact same issue with mine since day 1 I got the phone. It has never worked with that feature and when I mentioned it to Verizon they had no answers. I'm glad someone brought this up so I could fix it as well!

seabhac said:
I've had the exact same issue with mine since day 1 I got the phone. It has never worked with that feature and when I mentioned it to Verizon they had no answers. I'm glad someone brought this up so I could fix it as well!
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You also have to remember that the flip feature also seems to use the prox sensor, so if you just "flip" the phone in the air, it will not activate the speakerphone. I can understand this, because let's say you are holding the phone in your watch hand and you flip the phone quickly to check the time. You would not want the phone to go to speaker for that.
It has to detect the "flip" and also that you flipped the phone against something (like a tabletop, etc).

I recalibrated my sensor by going to display then calibrate sensor. After that I made a call and the only time it actualy works is when you lay it down on a flat surface, but then when you go to pick it up the speaker turns off.. WTF.... The whole point of that is to be able to flip your phone and have the speaker turn on. Why even have it if you have to manually do it during a call anyway? Sounds like they didn't put a whole lot of thought into the functionality of the flip for speaker phone. I use my speaker all the time but what good is it to set your phone down to turn the speaker on, of course you will be able to hear the person talking but what about them being able to hear you?

I'm not using a case at all.

Karine said:
I'm not using a case at all.
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But when it changes position from flat to any other does the speaker still stay on or does it turn off?

Since using the drop technique I described to fix my flip feature, it now works when I flip it regardless of the type of surface.

MomentFreak said:
But when it changes position from flat to any other does the speaker still stay on or does it turn off?
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As long as the prox sensor is tagging, you will have speaker phone.
Easy way to test.
Call a number. Turn the phone over while holding it in the air. Cover the prox sensor (the sensor just to the left of the speaker grill at the top of the phone). Speaker phone will come on. Move hand away from the prox sensor, speaker phone will go off.

So I did the test and when I covered the speaker it turned on and stayed on even after removing my hand and putting it in an upright position.
Is that what it's supposed to do?

MomentFreak said:
So I did the test and when I covered the speaker it turned on and stayed on even after removing my hand and putting it in an upright position.
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Ahh, I just tested it as well and you are correct!
Seems it does not constantly check the prox sensor.
If you turn the phone back over the speaker phone will be on and unless I cover the prox sensor again, it will stay on.
Kinda of odd since it did not work that way when I first got it. I wondering if maybe something with the custom roms or the kernel, may be changing the behavior?

sawvellra26 said:
Try updating tasker. Worked for me
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How do you update tasker and what exactly is it?

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[Q] Aria Front (In-Call) Speaker Stopped Working

The in-call speaker on my wife's Aria doesn't consistently work for calls. I've replaced the digitizer on it, but I don't think it's hardware related, because I took the battery out while it was on, and when I started it up again, it worked; and sometimes it works, then doesn't, then does.
What happens is when she calls or is called the speaker just doesn't work. She transfers the sound to the external speaker and it works fine.
She's running the Liberated ROM (not sure what version, sorry; I can find out if needed).
Thanks for any help!
It's probably a loose connection.
Using a wired headset has screwed 2 arias for me now.sometimes I can wiggle the plug before I remove it and get the speaker to work but generally I just turn speakerphone on and turn the volume all the way down to use the ear speaker.fairly common problem.
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drumist said:
It's probably a loose connection.
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I'm going to agree on this one. I've taken my Aria apart more times than I probably should have... the first cellphone I've ever repaired on my own, so go figure.
My bet would be that the in-call speaker is still in place, but loose. If you open it up again, the piece you're looking for is maybe a half-inch long rectangular block with two prongs on one side. If the phone is sitting screen up, the prongs should be facing down with the points towards the top of the cell phone. It sits in a little recess above the lcd assembly.
You need to push the piece up so it's snug in it's little recess. Easy peasy.
If you've already done a digitizer replacement, you should have the tools to do a quick check and make sure the speaker is secure in the proper position.
I still think it may be a loose speaker connection, but I also think mtnlion could be right, too.
When the in-call speaker does not work, does the phone show an icon in the notification bar that indicates that a headset is connected?
In any case, I do think it's a hardware issue and not a software issue. But if the OP really wants to be certain, he can install another ROM and see if the same problem occurs.
Yeah, I took the thing apart again, and stretched those prongs a bit to make the speaker fit more snugly; hasn't had the problem since. But I think now the seal isn't quite as tight as it used to be so her screen "squishes". That'll be another day.
Thanks for the thoughts on it.
Adhesive issues
I had that issue too. To fix it, all I had to do was use a space heater (or a blow dryer) on the phone (take the battery, sim card and SD card out first) for about 15 minutes. Then take it and smoosh it underneath something flat and heavy like a book, but make sure to put something down beneath it so the screen doesn't get scratched. Once it cools down, it should be significantly less squishy.

Lumia Rattle Noise

When I shake the phone there's a rattling noise, it could be the battery or something like that, is this normal or should I take it back to store?
brummiesteven said:
When I shake the phone there's a rattling noise, it could be the battery or something like that, is this normal or should I take it back to store?
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Unless it's loud and feels like something has fallen off, it might be the camera or the accelerometer.
Accelerometer is an aside, no audible moving parts.
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just gave mine a shake and i will admit im not in the quietest office but i could not hear anything. If i was you i would take to the store to be safe i mean they should just straight swap it over.
I meant to type "ASIC," silly autocorrect changed it on my atrix.
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Yup, I have that too. I noticed it when I followed the 'shake' tip in App Highlights.
It's like one of the bigger parts isn't secured, possibly the battery. It makes a muffled click-clack noise when I shake the phone. But I have to really shake it, when I turn it over or move swiftly it doesn't occur.
Just to let everyone know (esp the guy above me) I took it back and got a replacement, the replacement makes no noise on shake at all so it definitely is some kind of fault (albeit a small one).
Like, robinVerdegaal says I think it was the battery. Mine was pretty loud (you could hear it rattle in a loud room) and I also noticed it when using the Suprise Me function on the App Highlights app.
Thanks brummiesteven. I didn't have a real problem with the loose part, but as I've also had a couple of touchscreen and touchbutton freezes (see this thread) I'll probably go and get a replacement as well.
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Thanks brummiesteven. I didn't have a real problem with the loose part, but as I've also had a couple of touchscreen and touchbutton freezes (see this thread) I'll probably go and get a replacement as well.
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I think that may be a software problem, I too have a similar issue, screen works fine but none of the buttons on the side work, volume, power, camera etc. It only happens when connected to power which is why I think it's a software problem.

Flip for Speakerphone Working?

Can't get it to work and it is checked on in settings. Is there a trick to it? I've tried face down and face up and only while on outgoing call that is still ringing, not during a connected call. Is that the problem? That would seem weird to me.
Also, when I first started researching phones, one of the first ones I looked at had a feature that when you got a call if you turned it over it would silence the ringer. I have a feeling it was the Moto Droid though. Anyone know if there's an app to do that on the RZD or if I'm mistaken and it has that feature?
From my understanding, u must be in "normal" sound profile for flip speaker to work. Also the ringer does go silent* when u pick it up.
*maybe not silent, but ringer does get alot lower
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It's in normal.
I haven't noticed that with the ringing but I'm thinking more of a silence the phone and ignore it sort of situation. Like if I'm at work or with a friend and the phone rings I can just turn it over and it will stop.
Mine works. I accidently got it to work actually. Sat the phone down while talking to someone then all of a sudden they got loud. Everytime I have tried it sense it has work.
was one of the first things I discovered on my rezound, and I love it. I use it quite often actually haha. There is a setting in the menu to enable or disable it, as well as the silence if you move the phone while it's ringing.
Settings > Sound settings under incoming calls
I used to have these extra settings checked, but i read somewhere that it drains the battery faster. Maybe the sensors detecting the orientation of the phone causes some battery drain, but im not positive about that.
It works really well on mine. If there's a battery issue, maybe you want to check what power settings you're in. I keep mine in performance, since that also seems to cause less problems with 4G turning off. Also check if your sensors are working, maybe with a tilt game or something similar. I've had it on the whole time and it doesn't seem like I get less battery life than what people report, at least not obviously.
Just tested this out, and it seems like the speaker phone flip and silence ringer flip only work when the phone is on a flat surface. The phone lowers the volume of the ring when you pick it up, but mutes it completely if you flip it face down on a flat surface. The speakerphone works the same way, at least I couldn't get it to activate without putting the phone down.
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BVKnight said:
Just tested this out, and it seems like the speaker phone flip and silence ringer flip only work when the phone is on a flat surface. The phone lowers the volume of the ring when you pick it up, but mutes it completely if you flip it face down on a flat surface. The speakerphone works the same way, at least I couldn't get it to activate without putting the phone down.
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I tested the muting the rings when you turn it over and that worked, then when I answered it my friend hung up! She didn't know the second part of the test. lol. Then our food came and we stuffed our faces. Then we had to go to a stupid 3 hour safety training class that didn't apply to our department AT ALL. Oh well...
I wonder if it needs the sensor covered up as well as being turned over, the one that makes the screen turn off when you hold it to your ear.
Yep, I think that's it. If you turn it over and don't lay it on a table no speakerphone, but if you then just cover that sensor with your hand it goes to speakerphone. Problem with this function is when you turn it back over speakerphone turns off. Guess I'll just turn on speakerphone the old fashioned cumbersome way. Was hoping to just be able to flip it over and back. Oh well.
AtLemacks said:
Mine works. I accidently got it to work actually. Sat the phone down while talking to someone then all of a sudden they got loud. Everytime I have tried it sense it has work.
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lol in a crowded room with your family, talking to your GF bout all the sexytimes that are gonna occur later.......lol

Can you swap guts of phone?

My S3 got wet this morning, after sitting in rice through the day it will power on... however as soon as I put the battery in you can hear the speaker giving off this little static sounding gurgling noise. Once the phone powers up the speaker does not work regardless if on the phone or speaker. Also when I call someone, they cannot hear me. It is not recognizing my SD but is recognizing my SIM. The back and edit / settings button on the bottom of the phone work ~75% of the time.
My question is... if I buy another S3 (I see them often going at a discount with cracked screens) can I take the guts out of the new phone and just use my current LCD / glass / case?
Falken231 said:
My S3 got wet this morning, after sitting in rice through the day it will power on... however as soon as I put the battery in you can hear the speaker giving off this little static sounding gurgling noise. Once the phone powers up the speaker does not work regardless if on the phone or speaker. Also when I call someone, they cannot hear me. It is not recognizing my SD but is recognizing my SIM. The back and edit / settings button on the bottom of the phone work ~75% of the time.
My question is... if I buy another S3 (I see them often going at a discount with cracked screens) can I take the guts out of the new phone and just use my current LCD / glass / case?
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Yes, you can, well, mostly i think, the parts that don't contain data, but if you will only replace the screen you are good to go.
But please, if you don't know how to do that, go pass that to someone experienced so nothing is messed up.
Cheers.
Yes you can just use screen setup, you can use the motherboard, speaker, mic etc from the good phone and put it in the old screen chassis. this will not fix any screen, touch, light up key etc issues though.

Mate 20 Pro Screen Coming On Randomly.

Hi folks, I have a new Huawei Mate 20 Pro and it initially had the feature on that turns the screen on when you pick the phone up. That was fine, but I noticed they it kept turning the screen on when I put it in my car dash holder, so I turned this feature off.
However, whilst the screen no longer comes on when I pick the phone up off my desk, it does still come on twice, every time I put it in the car holder.
The car holder doesn't plug into the phone at all, it just holds the phone, nothing more. But he screen seems to turn on and instantly face unlock (or turn on already unlocked, is how it actually seems), so I turn the screen off and then it always happens a second time. After the second time of turning it off it doesn't seem to do it again the whole journey but does anybody have any idea why it does this and how I can prevent it from doing so? My old Samsung never did this, so it must be a Huawei thing.
The only thing I can think is they it could be linked to do with the phone connecting to the car's Bluetooth, but that doesn't explain why it does it twice each time, and I can't find any settings to stop it from turning the screen on when it connects.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
EMUI 9 has been buggy AF for me, I'd say this is just another bug and who knows if they'll ever fix it
The stand doesn't have any magnets?
MBRuss said:
The only thing I can think is they it could be linked to do with the phone connecting to the car's Bluetooth, but that doesn't explain why it does it twice each time, and I can't find any settings to stop it from turning the screen on when it connects.
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Do you also get any new notification each time the screen turns on?
In that case maybe your phone (or an app) is configured to turn on the screen to show its notification.
Nope, no magnets. It's a passive Brodit car holder. Plastic and grips the sides of the phone.
No notifications either. I think it must be something related to the Bluetooth, as picking the phone up and jiggling it as if it was in the holder whilst the car is in motion doesn't cause the screen to come on either.
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Did a bit more testing with this and found that the screen doesn't come on when I put it I the holder without Bluetooth enabled. So it seems to be connecting to my BMW's Bluetooth that is causing the screen to come on twice, every time I connect the phone to the car.
Usually just as I pull out of my driveway the screen comes on, so I hit the power button, then a few seconds later it comes on again. After that it doesn't come on again unless I receive a call.
Does anybody have any idea how I might stop it from doing this? The BMW iDrive display shows a signal indicator as soon as the phone is connected, so I have no need for the screen to turn on, but it bugs me.
I just want the phone to connect and keep the screen off like my Samsung phones always did...
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RJUK said:
Did a bit more testing with this and found that the screen doesn't come on when I put it I the holder without Bluetooth enabled. So it seems to be connecting to my BMW's Bluetooth that is causing the screen to come on twice, every time I connect the phone to the car.
Usually just as I pull out of my driveway the screen comes on, so I hit the power button, then a few seconds later it comes on again. After that it doesn't come on again unless I receive a call.
Does anybody have any idea how I might stop it from doing this? The BMW iDrive display shows a signal indicator as soon as the phone is connected, so I have no need for the screen to turn on, but it bugs me.
I just want the phone to connect and keep the screen off like my Samsung phones always did...
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Maybe try go to Settings - Notifications - Bluetooth and turn off everything and see if it does anything?
Thanks. I've turned off "turn on display" for all notifications anyway, but just went into the Bluetooth settings and unticked the one that puts a notification on the lock screen.
Let's see if that works.
It's annoying, because the Bluetooth also causes the phone to instantly unlock, or the face unlock works really quickly from my phone cradle.
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RJUK said:
because the Bluetooth also causes the phone to instantly unlock, or the face unlock works really quickly from my phone cradle.
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I've noticed that as well,I cant decide if its unlocked when connected via Bluetooth ( I havent added the car stereo as a Smart source) or if it just face unlocks damned quickly
panman1964 said:
I've noticed that as well,I cant decide if its unlocked when connected via Bluetooth ( I havent added the car stereo as a Smart source) or if it just face unlocks damned quickly
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Yeah, same. Doesn't unlock that quickly when it's right in front of my face!
I just need to find the setting to stop the car unlocking it. Perhaps that'll do it. I think the phone needs to be connected to the car to turn that off though.
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RJUK said:
Yeah, same. Doesn't unlock that quickly when it's right in front of my face!
I just need to find the setting to stop the car unlocking it. Perhaps that'll do it. I think the phone needs to be connected to the car to turn that off though.
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Just did a quick test.
Turned off bluetooth
Wentout to van
Put phone in cradle
Sat in drivers seat
Hit power button
Instant face unlock.
Guess it works better if a bit further away from the face
panman1964 said:
Just did a quick test.
Turned off bluetooth
Wentout to van
Put phone in cradle
Sat in drivers seat
Hit power button
Instant face unlock.
Guess it works better if a bit further away from the face
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Haha, weird. Now to figure out the screen on thing...
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RJUK said:
Haha, weird. Now to figure out the screen on thing...
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I'm now getting in the habit of holding the M20P at arms length when picking it up
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I'm now getting in the habit of holding the M20P at arms length when picking it up
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Haha, just makes you look an idiot to passers-by! I use the fingerprint reader a lot as well. It's also pretty quick.
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