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I have some questions that might sound stupid, but I just rooted my first 2 phones over the last 2 days, so I'm definitely new at this and still don't know a lot about this.
I have a defective Thunderbolt (VERY frequent reboots caused by the May OTA update) that I got Verizon to replace with a Droid Charge. I rooted the Thunderbolt because I wanted to be able to do things with my phone that the manufacturers prevent you from otherwise doing (such as changing the font, installing new ROMs, etc). I need to send the Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I still have it and figured this would be a good time to experiment with rooting.
Anyway, what I want to know is if there's a way to pull the HTC dialer, calendar, contacts & e-mail apps off of the Thunderbolt and put them on the Charge (and, have them actually work!), as I really like those apps. As I said, my Thunderbolt is rooted, and I found things on it like Calendar.apk, HtcContacts.apk, and HtcDialer.apk, but there are also other files with similar or related names. My Charge is rooted also, with a non-stock kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a non-stock ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5).
So, if anyone knows how to do this and could explain to me how to go about it, I'd REALLY appreciate it!
Thanks,
Dennis
You can try pulling some of the system apks from the system/app folder like the calender. Dialer might be a little more complicated, think that's something integrated in he framework or with sense . Know there are a lot of other installable dialer and keyboards out there so sure its possible
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dmw_4814 said:
I have some questions that might sound stupid, but I just rooted my first 2 phones over the last 2 days, so I'm definitely new at this and still don't know a lot about this.
I have a defective Thunderbolt (VERY frequent reboots caused by the May OTA update) that I got Verizon to replace with a Droid Charge. I rooted the Thunderbolt because I wanted to be able to do things with my phone that the manufacturers prevent you from otherwise doing (such as changing the font, installing new ROMs, etc). I need to send the Thunderbolt back to Verizon, but I still have it and figured this would be a good time to experiment with rooting.
Anyway, what I want to know is if there's a way to pull the HTC dialer, calendar, contacts & e-mail apps off of the Thunderbolt and put them on the Charge (and, have them actually work!), as I really like those apps. As I said, my Thunderbolt is rooted, and I found things on it like Calendar.apk, HtcContacts.apk, and HtcDialer.apk, but there are also other files with similar or related names. My Charge is rooted also, with a non-stock kernel (imnuts' PeanutButta Jelly Time) and a non-stock ROM (GummyCHARGED 1.8.5).
So, if anyone knows how to do this and could explain to me how to go about it, I'd REALLY appreciate it!
Thanks,
Dennis
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You can try to use titanium backup on your Thunderbolt to backup all user apps, system data, and system apps. Remove the Micro SD card. Insert your Micro SD card into the Droid Charge, and use Titanium backup to move certain apps that you would like to use. However, keep in mind that the stock HTC apps, may not work properly on a Droid Charge. ie, keyboard, tethering, etc. Hope this helps.
system apps are going to need the htc framework to run.
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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system apps are going to need the htc framework to run.
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madroix said:
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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He could get lucky and someone will make a port of sense for samsung phones like they did for touchwiz and non samsung phones. Until then, I'd say he's stuck.
madroix said:
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In fact any sense related programs will just force close with sense framework. And sense framework cannot be ported or moved. Sorry man. But look at the bright side, you have a brand new plastic phone with the worst UI the world has ever seen, but you did get swipe preinstalled. Nice.
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No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
dmw_4814 said:
No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
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Here's an alternative, maybe post this in the Charge section of the forums, as I doubt very many people in the Thunderbolt section are fond of the Charge or would be able to help you mod it. Just saying.
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Mean Bro Greene said:
Here's an alternative, maybe post this in the Charge section of the forums, as I doubt very many people in the Thunderbolt section are fond of the Charge or would be able to help you mod it. Just saying.
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Yeah, I only posted this here because it involved pulling apps off of the Thunderbolt, and I figured Thunderbolt owners would know the most about doing things like that!
Dennis
dmw_4814 said:
No, maybe you should read my ENTIRE post before commenting! Actually I have a new plastic phone, but I do NOT have the worst UI the world has ever seen, since I rooted it and installed a custom ROM! GummyCHARGED 1.8.5 installs an interface that is the closest to a stock Android install that I've ever seen (Google branded phones excepted, as I've no experience with them). That Samsung TouchWiz interface is a MAJOR reason why I rooted the phone in the first place!
At least my new plastic phone doesn't reboot 8-10 times a day, including right in the middle of phone calls!
Dennis
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All of that still doesn't change the fact you have samsung hardware not supported by the htc sense framework by default. You might have something close to AOSP and still using touchwiz (such as the stripped/themed roms on the thunderbolt) or you might just have an actual AOSP based rom. However, none of that changes the fact that the Sense framework supports sense hardware (which none of that samsung uses) and many of the drivers on the phones are not opensource and so that's what keeps from being as simple as pulling off some .apks on a sense ROM and installing onto your phone. As mentioned, you are far more likely to find someone who can build a sense like framework/launcher from the ground up in the samsung centered or general android development forums than here.
If we're going to resort to name calling and insults by either party, I'll just report the thread to a moderator, because none of that is really needed it's off topic. There's been too much hate going around lately on xda and it just turns off those that really try to help (like me).
If you want a lead of some party to ask, I would contact the developers that ported the touchwiz interface to all android phones or start asking in the older samsung forums that have more development going on (or in the general ones as mentioned). They would probably be the most interested in helping as I mentioned before. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/modified-touchwiz-4-launcher-for-all-android-devices/ (these guys)
Does anyone know if there is a default Wifi ROM for the Flyer I bought from Best Buy? I want to go back to the default setup as many things don't work.
Thanks,
5th
Fifth313ment said:
Does anyone know if there is a default Wifi ROM for the Flyer I bought from Best Buy? I want to go back to the default setup as many things don't work.
Thanks,
5th
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I've not seen it floating around anywhere yet.
A bunch of us have been looking for this. I'd be a little more adventurous with the HC Beta ROMs if I had a failsafe in place (stock RUU).
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A bunch of us have been looking for this. I'd be a little more adventurous with the HC Beta ROMs if I had a failsafe in place (stock RUU).
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Few people asked HTC over twitter w/o any response. :|
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Few people asked HTC over twitter w/o any response. :|
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Hm... what about their Facebook? Seems to be quite active. I think Honeycomb would give this tablet new life IMO.
I took a nose dive and installed honeycomb anyway. And I can say I am quite impressed only problem I have is fring and my fron facing came. It's just upside down in portrait mode. Other than that I have personally no problems and I use it all day. Hopefully a ruu will surface soon. But I won't need it until the real hc comes out for our flyers
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I took a nose dive and installed honeycomb anyway. And I can say I am quite impressed only problem I have is fring and my fron facing came. It's just upside down in portrait mode. Other than that I have personally no problems and I use it all day. Hopefully a ruu will surface soon. But I won't need it until the real hc comes out for our flyers
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Was the process pretty easy? Are you running the wi-fi flyer?
Its pretty easy to get to HC but you can't go back and while most things in HC beta work well, here's what I found.
Love the ROM. Only issues I have found are with the camera not working or very flaky with several apps including Skype, Paper Camera, Camera 360, SnapBooth, Notes, etc.
Additional bugs I found.
Mail widget stops working often
Bluetooth headset does not work properly. The devices pair fine and Audio out is ok , but the microphone on the head set is not used. Audio in is input from the Flyer's built in mic. I tired both a Jabra 3030 and a Motorola S9-HD
Tried with apps, Voice Search, Skype, and GrooveIP.
I have a wifi only US model Flyer
I've emailed them via their website, and get the standard "Thanks for you're email. We're working hard to provide the software updates you're asking about. Follow us on Twitter or Facebook for the latest news."
I wasn't asking about a software update, just when the WiFi BB RUU would be release...so it must be a standard answer.
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Was the process pretty easy? Are you running the wi-fi flyer?
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Yes I have the WiFi flyer. And yes the process is very easy. It's not noob friendly. I have a noon account but I'm not a noon been flashing and customizing phones and all since the g1 so always had adb. Just never contributed the knowledge I have. I had a lot of mistakes but figured out how to fix just by reading. Read up on everything first before you flash anything. The things it may do or may not do may or may not interest. Everyone one has the personal interests and pet peeves. I like it. But u might not. Read up on threads and posts and check it out.
Personal disclaimer.....lol
I can't stress this enough. I took the risks. My idea may not b the best idea. If anything happens. I don't know you and I was drunk when I typed this........lol
P512 Best Buys Flyer 16GB wifi
I took the plunge... Got it running in about 2 hrs with some mojo from these fourms.
I followed Pauls Guide. Then decided to use the FLYHONEY v0.2 ruu.
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...2.zip</FONT>&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13192987127163
I also had to install the disable_sim_card_message...
http://www.androidrevolution.nl/nickiberli/counter/click.php?id=10
I would give LeeDroid 2.1 a try instead of going back to stock.
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I would give LeeDroid 2.1 a try instead of going back to stock.
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Pretty sure once we (wifi flyer people) go Honeycomb, you can't go back. LeeDroid is gingerbread, so no-go for us.
If you have a USA flyer, you are stuck with HC once you go. Other countries, some can get back to GB with a RUU flash. LeeDroid is GB.
The first thing I did when I got this thing was make a stock ROM from a backup. I have a deodexed, rooted, battery percentage version as well. If anyone wants it let me know. It's the shipped 1.36.1540.32 ROM.
Unfortunately that does not help if you install HC, you cannot use a backup of a GB ROM with the HC recovery.
I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
Sounds like you didn't wipe everything.
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#2 is the only bug I've experienced. Its only happened once since I've owned the phone so I left it alone.
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I never really write anything on XDA and I've been an Android faithful since the T-mobile G1 (the good old days!). I went from a G1 to the Evo 4G and eventually the Evo 3D. I've been rooting for HTC to come out as Android king but I can't handle the Evo 3D anymore. I've tried many ROMs and kernels but I have 3 main issues that just broke the straw on the camel's back:
1. Whenever I try to send a tweet using the official Twitter app, I always get a force close! I've gotten in the habit of using copy/paste to write out my tweet, copy, wait for the FC, open Twitter app again, and paste, with the hopes of having my tweet eventually sent. I'm a twitter addict, this is killing me!
2. Whenever my phone gets an incoming call, I can hear my ringtone and the phone's screen lights up, but the screen is black! This means that I can't see who is calling me, and I am unable to pick up the call. I have to use the power button to hang up on the person and try to call them back. Basically I can't receive calls.
3. This is a common issue with all Sense ROMs, but the Messaging app never shows an accurate "unread" messages count. If I read and reply to a text message and return to the "All Threads" screen on the messaging app, the thread still shows that there are unread messages. This is the most frustrating thing in the world! I have tried installing the MMS.apk from CyanogenMod, but if I attempt to install that in a Sense ROM I get a FC every time I try to send a text.
I tried to love this phone, I really did. The hardware is amazing and the phone is super fast, but I can't put up with these bugs. I have tried using SupraROM, Synergy, and WildShooter with the Silverneedle, Ziggy, and AnthraX kernels. I'm done with trying different ROM and kernel combinations. I really miss my Evo 4G with CM I didn't come here expecting solutions, I just really want to vent. I wish the Galaxy Nexus was coming to Sprint!
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1. To fix this problem, go to settings>applications and clear data for the Twitter app. This should fix the FC. If not, uninstall it and reinstall. I had the same problem and that fixed it. If you can't uninstall it using either the market or Settings>applications, use a file manager and go to /system/app/ and find the Twitter.apk and delete it there.
2. I personally haven't had this problem but many have with custom ROMs, I believe both Eternity and Warm TwoPointThree have this fixed now (as well as many others I'm sure). Do a search, I've seen this all over.
3. This used to bother me as well. It is frustrating. I have found no solution. I just made myself get over it because I like the Sense 3.0 Mms app so much, but sounds like you don't have a preference since you tried to replace it, so maybe try GoSMS, Handcent SMS, or any number of other SMS apps on the market.
Good luck!
The only time I ever experienced #2 was when I was running Warm twopointthree with Tiamat kernel. Switched back to the tweaked stock kernel included with warm and haven't seen the issue since. All in all, Warm twopointthree is pretty much everything I could ask of a rom- fast, stable, SVN access to update without requiring a full wipe whenever I get a spare moment, and most importantly an absolutely stellar team of devs behind the scenes.
P.S. wiping your phone when switching between roms is crucially important and can easily cause a myriad of strange and/or inexplicable issues/bugs/FCs etc. Just fyi if you weren't aware...certainly no offense meant
#2 sounds like a kernal issue only. Ziggy kernals were bad for me.
Why dont u use a completely stock rom? Its faster than any evo4g modded imo
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try not using custom kernels for a while..ive experienced the same issues and for me,going to a stock kernel fixes those issues.im on Myn's Warm rom and havent had any problems.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
Never had any of these problems.
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the suggestions. Whenever I change ROMs I always do a complete wipe and use MyBackup Pro to backup/restore my data and apps. Its really a PITA actually with the storage constraints (16 gb SD card, full of data) I usually have to backup everything in phases and transfer parts of my backup to my PC. I hate waiting for the backup/restore and transfer time from phone to PC. I've just really grown frustrated of the evo 3d. This was kind of my goodbye letter, I'm meeting up with someone on craigslist to trade for a Nexus S. Hopefully that can hold me over until I sprint gets an ICS phone *couch*Galaxy Nexus!*cough*. It's been real.
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Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
On phones with problem #2, everyone tells me to turn off my autobrightness. It works but then I don't have autobrightness so hit and miss there.
then go away cry baby.. damn
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then go away cry baby.. damn
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Lol.
Peace out brodda; I'm finally content w/ the newest version of MIUI. Still, who knows what might happen in the future.
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Everything is fine here. Good luck and hope you don't end up in a Lifetime movie.
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Lol lol +2
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I hate it when fast food places put mayonnaise on my burgers when I told them not to. Keep that nasty **** off of my sandwich!
#1 - I've never had a problem with the twitter app
#2 - I've had this issue when using the ziggy kernel thats why I don't use it (some ROMs use it)
#3 - I agree with you but I don't get a lot of SMS messages so I haven't had your degree of frustration.
So it boils down to #3 as the only real "issue". I did notice the other day that the lockscreen did have a SMS count. Doubt that helps you at all. Good luck with the new phone and I hope it doesn't have any bugs.. I don't know of any device that is perfect even iPhones have some issues.
Help a noob out? I have a virgin DX2 - never rooted - freshly updated to 2.3.5 (was in the soak) - and I'm finally ready to root it and try out a ROM. I've been lurking here for a week or so reading & trying to learn all I can about the process - and I think I'm ready to give it a shot.
Obviously Step 1 is to SBF back to 2.3.4 so I can get rooted, but after that is where I'm running into some indecision. I can't decide if I want to go straight to CM7 from there - or follow the instructions to keep root, SBF back to 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.2.
I know both ROMs have their loyal followers and I'm sure either would be a big improvement over stock Blur... and I know it's easy enough to try BOTH of them once I get the hang of all this... but I'd still appreciate some advice about which to try first.
For those of you who've tried both, which do you prefer? What are the pros & cons of each?
Thanks!
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I know both ROMs have their loyal followers and I'm sure either would be a big improvement over stock Blur... and I know it's easy enough to try BOTH of them once I get the hang of all this... but I'd still appreciate some advice about which to try first.
For those of you who've tried both, which do you prefer? What are the pros & cons of each?
Thanks!
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I'm guessing you've seen this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632111
Seems to center around Eclipse and CM7 mostly. Eclipse can be a bit more polished in my estimation, mostly due to HDMI, FM radio, less buggy, you know, all the bells and whistles working. For the most part, either way you go you'll be fine.
Currently I have myself and my wife on CM7, we both like it. No real issues to speak of.
I personally perfer CM7RC1 its a solid daily driver very minor issues and I never get bored with it. Here's my overview of both ROMs.
CM7RC1
Pros:
Extremely Smooth.
Lots Of Mods/Tweaks.
Endless Customization.
Gingerbread 2.37
Theme Engine.
Wifi Tethering
Fully AOSP.
Toggles.
Cons:
HDMI Mirroring Is Unsupported.
FM Radio Is Unsupported.
Bugs:
Data Triangle. (Fixed By Reboot, *228)
Battery Exclamation. (Fixed By Reboot)
Some Experience Wifi Connecting Issues. (Fixed By Manual Connect)
Eclipse 2.2
Very Smooth.
Few Mods/Tweaks.
Limited Customization.
Gingerbread 2.35.
Flashable Themes.
AOSP/BLUR Hybrid.
Toggles.
Cons:
Lack Of Customization.
Is Only Gingerbread 2.35.
No Tethering.
Bugs:
Some Experience Wifi Resetting. (No Fix ATM)
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I have tried out every x2 rom under the sun and as of right now I think your best bet is cm7. I would recommend running the cm7 mash up script, along with the dual core script, because with both of these the res is flawless.
but of course, I think you should try both of them out because it is personal preference. And if we get cm9 here soon then we will all be happy little cracked out, flashed up, ics'd whores with everything we can dream of for the x2, with some extra feta cheese.
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I personally perfer CM7 its a solid daily driver very minor issues and I never get bored with it. Here's my overview of both ROMs.
CM7
Pros:
Extremely Smooth.
Lots Of Mods/Tweaks.
Endless Customization.
Gingerbread 2.37
Theme Engine.
Wifi Tethering
Fully AOSP.
Toggles.
Cons:
HDMI Mirroring Is Unsupported.
FM Radio Is Unsupported.
Bugs:
Data Triangle. (Fixed By Reboot, *228)
Battery Exclamation. (Fixed By Reboot)
Some Experience Wifi Connecting Issues. (Fixed By Manual Connect)
Eclipse 2.2
Very Smooth.
Few Mods/Tweaks.
Limited Customization.
Gingerbread 2.35.
Flashable Themes.
AOSP/BLUR Hybrid.
Toggles.
Cons:
Lack Of Customization.
Is Only Gingerbread 2.35.
No Tethering.
Bugs:
Some Experience Wifi Resetting. (No Fix ATM)
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This is a fair evaluation of both ROMs but really it all boils down to personal preference and things like if you need HDMI and stuff like that...I personally never use HDMI or the FM radio...but still liked eclipse and that's what I have on my wife's phone albeit its 2.1...I am sure when CM9 comes out she will like to try it...in short flash them both run them for a week or so and see which one you like and go from there
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I have tried out every x2 rom under the sun and as of right now I think your best bet is cm7. I would recommend running the cm7 mash up script, along with the dual core script, because with both of these the res is flawless.
but of course, I think you should try both of them out because it is personal preference. And if we get cm9 here soon then we will all be happy little cracked out, flashed up, ics'd whores with everything we can dream of for the x2, with some extra feta cheese.
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The end of your post made my day...
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Just a caution on CM7; I haven't tried the latest release but on the first release the camcorder continuous auto-focus didn't function. It seemed to focus once when you press the shutter button and remain fixed, and sometimes that focus was in error itself. Not a lot of people seem to care about that but my phone has the heavy responsibility of archiving my sons' most important memories for them to look back on when they are older, so I just went back to stock rom. Other than that, CM7 seemed great.
I use CM7RC1 Dual Core Script, Build Prop Mashup, 8 Touch Point Mod, Cron Scheduler, Beats Audio, 3 CDMA Mods. My phone is blazing fast!
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In my experience the beats audio hack ruined my sound quality. Also the dual core script......Our 2nd core boots up automatically when there's a demand for more memory. Dragonzkiller even stated this is the dual core script thread. Keeping both on at all times pretty much only drains your battery faster. Only difference I noticed with it was the home screen animations were a little snappier. Wasn't enough change in performance for the lack of battery IMHO. Just a few things if you go the CM7 route. Never tried Eclipse so I can't help you there.
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Why do these keep popping up...the search bar is definitely not be used...
Anyways...Eclipse is literally a hair slower than cm7 but it is worlds more stable. Wifi on Eclipse far better than cm7's. Cm7 has some SU issues but they can be fixed by installing Super SU from the market and getting rid of the normal SU app.
Tethering is easier on cm7 is strong -- heat is something you'll have to worry about. I've tethered on Eclipse through the use of a Market app so a little more work must be done there.
Downside to Eclipse is that you must go to 2.3.5 to use it whereas Cm7 is 2.3.4. Battery life on Eclipse is better for me. I've had serious computer trouble this past month and have had to do some research for papers on my phone! With the brightness on full, Gmusic/Pandora/power amp going and internet on my battery would last ~6-9 hours.
I should also mention that I have the Second Core Script going and my battery life took a very small. Not backbreaking but noticeable.
Not going to lie ; your phone will heat up slightly more regardless of the rom you're on when you use the script
Personally I enjoy Eclipse much more than cm7. Blue is my favorite color
Come over to the dark side...
Hmm haven't ran into any sound issues yet. As far as the dual core script I understand the core will activate on demand. The thing is this only happens when the CPU becomes so over tasked by processes it create a short lag before kicking in. This script makes that laggy transition disappear. I would only recommend this script for people with the extended battery like me tho.
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The thing is this only happens when the CPU becomes so over tasked by processes it create a short lag before kicking in. This script makes that laggy transition disappear.
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Obviously, lol... no "lag" or time needed to boot because its already always on...
Did you use the script editor in ROM toolbox to apply it, sealedfate? If so do you check apply on boot, or do you only use it when you see fit?
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If you have a X2 now I would say you have to try them both. Run one for a couple of weeks do a nano back up and then try the other for a couple of weeks. Then you can decide which you like better. Or you can do like I did and just keep going back and forth every few weeks because you love them both
I have the script in system/ect/init.d so it applies on boot. Helps a hell of a lot with 3D games.
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Why do these keep popping up...the search bar is definitely not be used...
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Actually, like I said in my first post, I'm been doing nothing but searching and reading on here for the past week or so. Eclipse 2.2 just dropped a week ago, so I was looking for fresh opinions from people who had tried CM7 and that version specifically.
I appreciate all the helpful comments from everyone though. I think I'll do like a few of you suggested and try them both eventually... starting with CM7.
Hopefully we can all add CM9 to the list of ROMs to try very soon!
Dragonzkiller is currently working on the CM9 release for DX2! Keep up to date on his twitter page
www.twitter.com/dragonzkiller
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RoyJ said:
Dragonzkiller is currently working on the CM9 release for DX2! Keep up to date on his twitter page
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Yep! I've been following his Twitter feed and the "CM9DX2 anticipation" thread on here. Can't wait to see how it goes. Sounds like he's REAL close!
Success! Following Moon Shadow's instructions to the letter, I successfully SBF'd back to 2.3.4, rooted, and installed CM7 without any problems whatsoever. CM7 is up and running! Just need to get my apps reinstalled and I'll be good to go. Man... you guys weren't kidding. The phone is SOOOO much faster/smoother now, it's not even funny. Should have done this a long time ago.
Thanks everyone!
OK, it appears that I spoke too soon. I realized soon after that the Google apps did not get loaded on my phone (Gmail, Maps, Nav, YouTube, etc.), but some of the other apps in that same ZIP file DID get installed (Talk). Also, my old background pic was still on the phone.
I was able to download/install the missing Google apps without any problem and they all work perfectly (including Nav from the car dock) - and everything else has been running flawlessly. The phone is very fast & smooth... no bugs... not a single force close or reboot yet after fairly heavy use for the last couple of days.
So... obviously something didn't go perfectly with my install, but as far as I can tell, everything is fine with the phone. How can I tell if I'm missing anything else? Should I just keep what I have or SBF back to 2.3.4 and start over again? I'm perfectly happy with it right now - but maybe I don't know what I'm missing.
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OK, it appears that I spoke too soon. I realized soon after that the Google apps did not get loaded on my phone (Gmail, Maps, Nav, YouTube, etc.), but some of the other apps in that same ZIP file DID get installed (Talk). Also, my old background pic was still on the phone.
I was able to download/install the missing Google apps without any problem and they all work perfectly (including Nav from the car dock) - and everything else has been running flawlessly. The phone is very fast & smooth... no bugs... not a single force close or reboot yet after fairly heavy use for the last couple of days.
So... obviously something didn't go perfectly with my install, but as far as I can tell, everything is fine with the phone. How can I tell if I'm missing anything else? Should I just keep what I have or SBF back to 2.3.4 and start over again? I'm perfectly happy with it right now - but maybe I don't know what I'm missing.
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Not sure how anyone might be able to tell you what you might be missing on your phone. It is pretty basic what you get, not a lot of bells and whistles put in by default.
Not aware of a comprehensive list of what you should have exactly.
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This will likely be a long post, so I'll start off with short summary:
After years of being excited about the android OS, I've now grown very tired of it and can't find a good solution to solve the issues.
Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and provide feedback and insight.
Background
I've been a web developer for ~15 years, even worked on a very popular android tablet before it was released. I currently have the title of "SDE" but I also deal with a lot of UI/UX work. I'm pretty tech savvy, love control, love to hack (eg my main machines are hackintoshes). I bought an EVO 3D shortly after it came out as it was dual core and had the most RAM. A friend is an android enthusiast and it sure seemed like android, while lacking polish, offered the flexibility and community for me to be able to have the level of polish I want.
Problems
Over the past year+ I haven't had much spare time. While other phones on other carriers are easy to root and mod, the EVO 3D on Sprint has been a PITA. My recent attempt at a custom PRL was a great example of how this "open" phone was more difficult to work with than a "locked" iPhone. There's been no easy way to root this phone and turn s-off. Yeah, I know there's two methods but both of them require more time than I have right now at any given time. And the bigger issue for me is that they're much bigger kludges than I think an "open" OS should be.
I waited for the ICS OTA update and am disappointed. While it solved some issues, it created more. And I feel like I've got both arms tied behind my back since almost any fix requires root. I hate reading that some of the fixes are in jelly bean, yet there's no easy way for me to upgrade.
Specific issues
- Llama doesn't work in ICS. I <3 Llama
- Battery usage is often horrible - yesterday I checked my email a couple times and the battery lasted all of 6 hours. I tried killing all tasks, but those who say that's useless since froyo are right. This issue keeps happening... it's like the CPU gets stuck at 100% for some reason.
- Network sucks. I don't understand why I can get 10Mb down and 2Mb up with speedtest.net, but the responsiveness of any app that uses the internet is sluggish. Even with my own tests on my own web servers, it' still sluggish. And latency is fairly low... seems like there might be a lot of packet loss for some reason.
- Camera sucks. The camera on my wife's EVO 4G works better but still sucks. All I've found here are threads confirming how much it sucks.
- App specific issues:
-- I have my sync settings set not to link contacts with LinkedIn, but it still frequently asks me anyway.
-- Contacts are duplicating: I had them all on my phone, and all synced via my gmail account. Then the other day it decides they're all different and duplicates my contacts.
- It unlocks itself. Sometimes I pull my phone out of my pocket and the phone is unlocked, even though I had a PIN set. I can use it for a minute or two, then suddenly I get greeted with a lock screen (or sometimes just half a lock screen.)
- I don't like having to set a lock screen in order to change the wifi password. Seems really odd to me. It wasn't like that in gingerbread.
I also have a hard time finding information. Seems like half of what I find doesn't apply to the EVO 3D, though may work for many other phones (even other HTC phones) and the bulk of the rest no longer works because of some other issue (or is just outdated.)
Anyway, I could go on, but I think you get the idea. If I had time, I'd see what I could to do contribute to a ROM project, but that just doesn't seem like it's in the cards right now. Am I just not a good fit for android? Is the bigger issue this phone? Would I actually be able to solve the above issues if I did go ahead and root it fully... perhaps with the wire method?
Thanks
Well I understand where you're coming from. Honestly, its personal preference. From my experience, once I went s-off and fully rooted it, it was so much better. A lot of the custom roms here are fantastic and blow stock out of the water. You can do so much more with root, and easily fix all of the problems that you have. Every. Single. One. It's all about just trying it, and if you don't like it, you can easily just try something new, that's the glory of it
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Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
blame the phone manufacturers and the carriers, not android... none of your problems actually seem like android ones
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Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
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Take a look at mpgrimm2's guide thread. That has a lot of good information.
ramjet73
snokarver said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
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After you htcdev unlock, you need to flash a stock rom with root, I would try my rom, common sense v1.5 (stock) its in the link in my siggy, I did it on that and it worked just fine. Or you can flash a stock rooted rom that Virus posted up, its somewhere in the dev forum, once that's flashed you're good to go
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Thanks. What's the easiest way to do a full backup of my existing ROM so I can easily restore if I want to? Seems like every method I've found requires root.
Under all the glitz, Android runs on a Linux kernel.
Linux is very secure in that only the "root" account can make changes to vital system processes.
So yes, gaining root access is vital to making changes to your android device.
IMO, it is too easy to gain root in Android. It should be harder so all these noobs won't be on here f'ing up their phones.
sudo passwd root
I use *nix all day long. Was just running commands to modify permissions, using sudo, for git. Even in OS X gaining root access is fairly easy. But what you're telling me is, the only way to backup my ROM is to wipe it first with a ROM that is rooted? (In other words, no way to backup my ROM.)
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Thanks. What's the easiest way to do a full backup of my existing ROM so I can easily restore if I want to? Seems like every method I've found requires root.
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If you find the Su binaries, you can flash it via recovery via fastboot, right over the stock rom that you're running RIGHT NOW. I would google it, I don't have one off hand that I can attach for you.
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I found the su binaries, but haven't had any luck getting them installed. Every walkthrough I've found doesn't work. Tried to put a recovery on it, but that also won't go. One method requires root. The instructions for another said three button method but that doesn't seem to work on this phone...
You have to unlock the bootloader before trying to install recovery.
There are a bunch of guides. www.google.com
sudo passwd root
*sigh*
I have done the official HTC unlock. I know there's a ton of guides out there, and I'm usually pretty good at using google, but I have yet to find one that works. 90% of them are incomplete, outdated, assume you're already fully rooted or have a custom ROM. The majority of the time I find people posting the same problems I'm running into, without any answers. I've tried no less than four different methods (found via google) today to install recovery, but none of them have worked.
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*sigh*
I have done the official HTC unlock. I know there's a ton of guides out there, and I'm usually pretty good at using google, but I have yet to find one that works. 90% of them are incomplete, outdated, assume you're already fully rooted or have a custom ROM. The majority of the time I find people posting the same problems I'm running into, without any answers. I've tried no less than four different methods (found via google) today to install recovery, but none of them have worked.
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Have you tried mpgrimm2's guide for flashing recovery and superuser? It's part of a larger thread that covers rooting, S-OFF, bootloaders and other stuff for the Evo 3D and I know he works hard at keeping it up-to-date.
I suggested that earlier in this thread, and if you can't find the answers you are looking for there I'd be surprised.
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Thanks for the insistance on that thread. I tried CWM using that guide and it didn't work (wouldn't ever boot into CWM even though everything appeared to install ok). I tried 4ext using a 4ext guide and it didn't work. I tried 4ext using the same guide as you linked to which references CWM, and it did work.
BusyBox is saying it may not be rooted, but RootChecker says it is. At least now I think I'm far enough along to make a backup of the stock ROM. Thanks much
Launching BusyBox some more it seems to work fine. So far I've:
- Make a backup of the stock ROM
- Deleted the crapware
- Backed up my apps with TB
- Used SetCPU to lower the clockspeed when idle. Now I'm under 100ma when idle. Pre ICS I had a hard time getting under 300ma.
Thanks a bunch. Things are really looking up.