Hola!
So I really really REALLY like SGS2 and would love to get one. But before I do, one question...
I like to keep my phone plugged in and turned on while I'm at work or at home at the computer. But having done some reading, I see that SGS2 is susceptible to the screen burn in issue. Is that true? Should I not get it in that case?
As I said, I REALLY like the phone, but if I need to change my usage habits just to avoid a known issue, I'd rather look for an alternative.
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So I really really REALLY like SGS2 and would love to get one. But before I do, one question...
I like to keep my phone plugged in and turned on while I'm at work or at home at the computer. But having done some reading, I see that SGS2 is susceptible to the screen burn in issue. Is that true? Should I not get it in that case?
As I said, I REALLY like the phone, but if I need to change my usage habits just to avoid a known issue, I'd rather look for an alternative.
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It's got a SAMOLED screen. Google's your friend...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED#Disadvantages
^^ Ditto!
OP - SGS2 is NOT for you. Further if you like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times, I suggest the much cheaper MagicJack.
yes, I'm aware of what type of screen it has, thank you. That's the reason I asked about the issue.
I've never had a phone with an amoled screen, so I can only go off of others' experience.
What I'm wondering about is if there are any solutions that would go along with my usage habits. I don't remember what phone I was reading about (Nexus One?), but it had a feature where it would display a moving clock screensaver when docked in. Something along those lines when plugged into USB? Or maybe there are some new technology improvements in SGS2 that I don't know about?
OP - SGS2 is NOT for you. Further if you like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times, I suggest the much cheaper MagicJack.
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I "like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times"
If you're going to leave the screen on for a long time every day on the same screen, there will be a burn in. But I imagine with normal use (even for extended periods of time, but the screen changes screens often) there shouldn't be any problems.
So I'd probably skip on this phone if you leave the phone on for 8 hours on the same screen. Maybe the HTC Sensation? Also a VERY good phone, just not as good as the SGS2 ^^
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If you're going to leave the screen on for a long time every day on the same screen, there will be a burn in. But I imagine with normal use (even for extended periods of time, but the screen changes screens often) there shouldn't be any problems.
So I'd probably skip on this phone if you leave the phone on for 8 hours on the same screen. Maybe the HTC Sensation? Also a VERY good phone, just not as good as the SGS2 ^^
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Yeah, my main concern is when I'm at work, since I'm at my desk most of the time there. I'll probably have to settle on the Sensation after all. As you said, it's really nice, but not quite as good as SGS2. Such a shame >_<
Thanks for the suggestion!
Why do you keep the screen on all day?
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Why do you keep the screen on all day?
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I text a lot and get a bunch of emails usually. It really annoys me to have to turn on/unlock the phone every time I get a notification. It's nice to see it a glance when it's on the desk in front of you.
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I text a lot and get a bunch of emails usually. It really annoys me to have to turn on/unlock the phone every time I get a notification. It's nice to see it a glance when it's on the desk in front of you.
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text app like handcent allows your screen to turn on when you receive a message with a popup message, you can read it immediately and reply instantly without pressing any extra button.
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text app like handcent allows your screen to turn on when you receive a message with a popup message, you can read it immediately and reply instantly without pressing any extra button.
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Yeah, I actually use it. But I don't always read the texts right away while working. And if the phone is unplugged, it will go back to sleep after a popup shows up.
It's just a personal preference =)
Its funny how lazy people have gotten.
I had original sgs2 for about a year and left it on bright screens with random things on with no burn in issues.
Had sgs2 for a month and have left it on overnight while on lockscreen(bright orange) and others and have no burn in issues.
I haven't personally seen any claims of burn on these forums or sgs forums. Just mostly people asking about it.
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Ha, have to admit, I'm pretty lazy
But that's interesting that there's been no reports of it happening... Hmm wonder if I should just say F it and go for it. But then again, I guess you'd have to be consistent about leaving your screen on for long periods of time. I doubt it would burn in if you leave it on for a night or two.
Why don't you go search some of the SGS and variant threads as well as the Nexus S. They use the same screen technology and have been out a lot longer. If they aren't experiencing issues you probably won't either.
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Why don't you go search some of the SGS and variant threads as well as the Nexus S. They use the same screen technology and have been out a lot longer. If they aren't experiencing issues you probably won't either.
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I did search before creating the thread. I saw some people reporting burn ins on other phones, but wasn't sure if anything has been improved lately technology-wise that could prevent the issue. I guess not...
I do realize though that it's quite early to see such reports on SGS2.
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yes, I'm aware of what type of screen it has, thank you. That's the reason I asked about the issue.
I've never had a phone with an amoled screen, so I can only go off of others' experience.
What I'm wondering about is if there are any solutions that would go along with my usage habits. I don't remember what phone I was reading about (Nexus One?), but it had a feature where it would display a moving clock screensaver when docked in. Something along those lines when plugged into USB? Or maybe there are some new technology improvements in SGS2 that I don't know about?
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I "like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times"
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yes you can and will burn in your AMOLED screen if left on all the time.
my nexus one actually has in the instruction manual to not use the phone for more than 30 minutes of screen on time. that's actually written in the OFFICIAL manual. perhaps later generations of amoled from samsung got better, but burn in still will happen.
note: i use my nexus one with screen on for 3 hours at a time, but i just dont leave a static image in one spot. i'm constantly web browsing etc so no real issue of major burn in. however my status bar did get burnt into the screen after the first month of owning the nexus one. not bad, but present.
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Ha, have to admit, I'm pretty lazy
But that's interesting that there's been no reports of it happening... Hmm wonder if I should just say F it and go for it. But then again, I guess you'd have to be consistent about leaving your screen on for long periods of time. I doubt it would burn in if you leave it on for a night or two.
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there are PLENTY of threads right here at XDA complaining about burn in on samsung amoled and super amoled screens. start in the nexus one forum, then search the galaxy s forum.
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Hello..I am thinking of retiring my sgs for sgs2..Until a few days earlier i had even planned, when to get it..i have played with the phone on stores and its more than amazing..its so much better than everything else out there, its almost alien..
BUT..For a few days i have browsed to reaserch before i spend that kind of money.And it turns out it has MANY issues..
yellow screens
short wifi ranges
pink photos
rf-flaky gps
battery drains
sudden reboots
and worst of all overheats..
I guess for the most part they "could" be software problems..But overheating is a real worry for me..I live in a country where summers , ambient temperatures easily climb to 40-45 degrees celsius..An overheat combined to that could litteraly melt the device..
So i ask of you , already owners..Is it really as bad as reading about it looks?or is it exxagerations?It is not a cheap device so i should proceed carefuly.Thank you..
Its a dual core so its going to get hot and as it has a thin case will appear more hot .
But its not what i term a HOT hot i would term it warm mostly .
The other problems you mention dont doubt that they exist on someone's phone but not on mine from day one .
jje
I am using my second sgs2 now. The first one I had had no issues except a pink spot on photos. (this was gone after firmware upgrade)
Then the phone got stolen....
Second sgs2 now and everything works fine, no overheating or anything, I would say my old sgs got even warmer at times especially when gaming on the charger.
I would say it depends a bit on your device, but overall it should be ok! Im extremely happy after upgrading to be honest (Hence I bought a second sgs2 after the first one got ripped)
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Its a dual core so its going to get hot and as it has a thin case will appear more hot .
But its not what i term a HOT hot i would term it warm mostly .
The other problems you mention dont doubt that they exist on someone's phone but not on mine from day one .
jje
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Hello..I remember seeing you often on sgs subfora.I hope you are happy with your upgrade!
Would you say it is like 40 degrees warm?or 50 degrees warm?As i said if it escalades too much on an already high ambient temperature it could fry it..
Also..Do you use a case?I suspect that would make heat problems worse?
I'm planning to retire my 6 months old SGS and get an SGS II!
I know I can't go wrong with this choice ;-]
Hi,
-yellow screens
if my sgsII screen is yellow, than it should be So no problems there, all colors are like they should be. I really like the display
-short wifi ranges
I heard that from a friend, he tried with another friend and iPhone 4 had better range for wifi. Where the sgsII had no connection, the iPhone still could use wifi.
in my apartment I can use the phone everywhere. router is on the one side of the house, bed on the other side (~10m, 2 walls) and it works. It shows 2 of 3 for wifi. So its okay for me
-pink photos
none, I read the post here and tried it out with a white wall, flash and no flash. Bad light. But picture was still perfect.
-rf-flaky gps
GPS works fine for me
-battery drains
its a smartphone, so you need to recharge every day or every second day. Depending on how much you use it. Like any other high end android device.
-sudden reboots
No reboots yet
-and worst of all overheats..
it is getting hot.
but no problems for me.
It's gettin colder very fast if you stop to use it.
But even when I used it over an hour (plugged in) I had no problem with holding it.
Overall I like the phone. I dont want another one
buy it. i love this phone. Nothing to complain about. I came from a decent phone too!(atrix)
Please don't take the general section at face value. I have a sgs2 from first batch with no issues. After any device release, the section will be filled with false complaints.
Most complaint threads will have the most post versus positive threads. Most if not all complaint threads are bs with very few actual members having problems.
No phone is perfect but my device is running great.
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HEHEHEHHEHEHE...
Similar post have been made 100 times. Do your research you'll find your answer. I have none of your posted issues
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HEHEHEHHEHEHE...
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You answered your own question having researched the forum. You may or may not experience any or all of the issues you listed. Just like some existing owners have and haven't experienced them. Are you looking for someone to tell you everything's going to be OK? Fine. Everything's going to be OK.
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I guess if I really realy try I can see this yellow tarnish on my screen too, but onlu if I really try and only under certain conditions
short wifi ranges
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range is okay but I have disconnect/reconnect every so often
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this clearly is a software problem, you can work around it with camera settings
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gps has been very fast for me
battery drains
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general android problem, if you leave your phone alone you can get very decent standby times
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never had them
and worst of all overheats..
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not had them
I guess for the most part they "could" be software problems..But overheating is a real worry for me..I live in a country where summers , ambient temperatures easily climb to 40-45 degrees celsius..An overheat combined to that could litteraly melt the device..
the device should shut down automatically so no worries....
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intruda119 said:
Similar post have been made 100 times. Do your research you'll find your answer. I have none of your posted issues
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Yes i did.And when entering new post title none comparable was found as well..i found clusters of others, asking about each of the issues separately,weeks apart..so i thought instead of asking in 7 archived topics , to ask in a new one..could have even been possible many of them to have been resolved by updates, since then.
Nah this phone is terrible. My nokia 3310 does everythong sooooo much better!
The screen is better
Battery lasts longer
Its even overclocked!!
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More comments on my main concern please..Overheat..Has anyone seen from spare part or similar app how many degrees it can reach when getting hot?
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Hello..I remember seeing you often on sgs subfora.I hope you are happy with your upgrade!
Would you say it is like 40 degrees warm?or 50 degrees warm?As i said if it escalades too much on an already high ambient temperature it could fry it..
Also..Do you use a case?I suspect that would make heat problems worse?
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Using a case now and it does make it a bit worse, but I havent seen the temperature going above 37 on the SGS2 yet. SGS1 got 42 sometimes. never saw 50 or something like this..
I do have a small problem now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14537539&postcount=135
If I open the pictures fullscreen on this post, I can see some lines on my screen. On full brightness I dont see them, but with lower there are vague lines. I might check if other phones have this to, can some people here check it for me?
This is a minor problem, and I havent noticed it before someone pointed it out. The branding is also an issue if you make it an issue, this is software not hardware so can be fixed.
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More comments on my main concern please..Overheat..Has anyone seen from spare part or similar app how many degrees it can reach when getting hot?
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I've got to 50 before, using google maps and navigation beta simultaneously. It is a dual core phone though, and obviously is going to have a bit of sizzle behind it when pounding the processors.
I'd say go for it, it really is an amazing phone. The so called problems that have been raised are so superficial that they are near to non-existent. e.g. to see the yellow tint you have to turn down the brightness, use a certain coloured grey background, use a camera to take a picture of it, and then use photoshop to compare the colour of the two sides.
Come on folks, really.
I've used it heavily for a week and have had no overheating problems, you can always check the task manager if an application is misbehaving, it even blinks red if it's hitting the cpu hard.
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Using a case now and it does make it a bit worse, but I havent seen the temperature going above 37 on the SGS2 yet. SGS1 got 42 sometimes. never saw 50 or something like this..
I do have a small problem now..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14537539&postcount=135
If I open the pictures fullscreen on this post, I can see some lines on my screen. On full brightness I dont see them, but with lower there are vague lines. I might check if other phones have this to, can some people here check it for me?
This is a minor problem, and I havent noticed it before someone pointed it out. The branding is also an issue if you make it an issue, this is software not hardware so can be fixed.
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thanks for the answer on overheating mate..your problem is nothing to worry about..its called banding and it exists on all amoled screens...it is more apparent on shades of grey colour..if you use winamp you can probably see it there on the main screen as well..nothing to worry about.i guess the new samoled+ will also have slower burn in time so it will not become worse soon..
i am not an expert in matters like this,but woulddn't it help if we could get replacement back covers made of thin aluminum?it would also ensure that if the phone dropped it would land on its back and not on the screen probably.
i read that people had notification bar burn in on these AMOLED screens after a few months of use. i know that within the first year, i can exchange it for another one if this happens, but i'd like to avoid that. do these screens really do that or is it not true? i've set up Gentle Alarm to work with the Samsung Galaxy S dock, which makes the screen stay on if i don't exit. the idea of leaving a clock on for 8-10 hours has me worried.
If you go to the at&t store and look at the infuse models that have been out for a while.. You can see definite burn in the screen.. It was pretty bad when I was messing around when I bought my gs2... I'm hoping it's from the screen dabbers that they have on the phones.. I think you should be fine..
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If you go to the at&t store and look at the infuse models that have been out for a while.. You can see definite burn in the screen.. It was pretty bad when I was messing around when I bought my gs2... I'm hoping it's from the screen dabbers that they have on the phones.. I think you should be fine..
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Yeah, those phones run 24x7 and most of the time they get stuck on the 'Unplug your charger to save battery' for 8-9 hrs at a time, and thats where we see a lot of screen burn in. You won't see this from day to day usage, but if you leave it on all night every night, it may burn in.
One of the downsides of OLED is burn-in. There's no way around it. Why don't you order the official Samsung dock? The phone has built in docking s/w that recognizes it and the time moves around the screen when idle so there's no risk of burn in.
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One of the downsides of OLED is burn-in. There's no way around it. Why don't you order the official Samsung dock? The phone has built in docking s/w that recognizes it and the time moves around the screen when idle so there's no risk of burn in.
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that's the dock i have, but the box doesn't have the II on it. the phone fits, the blue light comes on, and the Samsung Desk Home opens up with it. i had just set it to Gentle Alarm since i'd grabbed that from Amazon. i'll check the Desk Home style and use it instead if it moves like that. thanks!
So I know there are several threads on this, some by me, but this time the issue is very weird.
So i'm on my third phone now, previous 2 had the USB port going wacky. Phone thinking it was charging when it wasn't plugged in, computer not recognizing phone anymore etc.
So problem has now started again on phone number three. Weird thing is this time the phone seems to not have this problem all day. Problem starts at night, so i'm assuming maybe a battery percentage left triggers it. The other weird aspect of this is that right before the phone starts bugging out, (charging, uncharging, and back, over and over while not plugged in), the car mode symbol appears in the status bar, and starts flashing on and off. If I am fast enough to catch it,I can deactivate car mode. When all this starts happening, phone also starts to get stuck and freezes up. This issue is really getting annoying. Love this phone but this is starting to make me crazy. Yes I got the phones at different stores. What do I uninstall to just get rid of car mode, considering I never use it?
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So, instead of using your existing thread, you decided to start yet another one for the same issue? And people wonder why the search doesn't work like it should.
good old miami son taking time out of his non existent life to not give any helpful info, but just to be a wanna be moderator. You were obnoxious and annoying in the captivate forums and I see you picked right up over here. Boy am I excited you got a new phone. Anyone else have any helpful advice?
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So I know there are several threads on this, some by me, but this time the issue is very weird.
So i'm on my third phone now, previous 2 had the USB port going wacky. Phone thinking it was charging when it wasn't plugged in, computer not recognizing phone anymore etc.
So problem has now started again on phone number three. Weird thing is this time the phone seems to not have this problem all day. Problem starts at night, so i'm assuming maybe a battery percentage left triggers it. The other weird aspect of this is that right before the phone starts bugging out, (charging, uncharging, and back, over and over while not plugged in), the car mode symbol appears in the status bar, and starts flashing on and off. If I am fast enough to catch it,I can deactivate car mode. When all this starts happening, phone also starts to get stuck and freezes up. This issue is really getting annoying. Love this phone but this is starting to make me crazy. Yes I got the phones at different stores. What do I uninstall to just get rid of car mode, considering I never use it?
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Seems to be whatever USB cable you are using or the way you carry this phone is the problem. No way you get 3 phones the same exact problem in a row. FYI, Samsung Focus and Captivate had the similar problem in the past. Car mode is just the result of your USB port problem instead of the cause of it. What happens is something shorted out or bridged the pins of the USB port to make the phone think it is conneted to a car dock (IIRC, car dock uses a 300k resistor to bridge two pins). Some ppl with Focus or Captivate reported success by blowing out the dirt in the USB port.
As well as cleaning the USB port with an alcohol swab
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good old miami son taking time out of his non existent life to not give any helpful info, but just to be a wanna be moderator. You were obnoxious and annoying in the captivate forums and I see you picked right up over here. Boy am I excited you got a new phone. Anyone else have any helpful advice?
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I'm enjoying my retirement.
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Seems to be whatever USB cable you are using or the way you carry this phone is the problem. No way you get 3 phones the same exact problem in a row. FYI, Samsung Focus and Captivate had the similar problem in the past. Car mode is just the result of your USB port problem instead of the cause of it. What happens is something shorted out or bridged the pins of the USB port to make the phone think it is conneted to a car dock (IIRC, car dock uses a 300k resistor to bridge two pins). Some ppl with Focus or Captivate reported success by blowing out the dirt in the USB port.
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The only USB cable I've used with all of them is the one they come with. I've used the alcohol cleaning method as well as blowing in the port, hopefully getting out any thing causing issue. This seems to help temporarily. The strangest part of all this to me is with this latest phone, I have zero problems all day. When I lay down in bed for the night and start using the phone is when it starts to happen. My battery life can range from 60%-30% at that time, so I don't know if that is a connection to this issue. Maybe the phone is possessed. It always seems to take about 2-3 weeks for this problem to arise. I always have the phone in my pocket, so I guess something must be happening with that. Luckily with this latest one, I bought the best buy insurance, it's just after awhile they're gonna start wondering why this keeps happening to me, and if it's my fault. The USB port problems can sometimes make it difficult/impossible to flash back to stock.
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good old miami son taking time out of his non existent life to not give any helpful info, but just to be a wanna be moderator. You were obnoxious and annoying in the captivate forums and I see you picked right up over here. Boy am I excited you got a new phone. Anyone else have any helpful advice?
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What he said was spot on dude you look the ass here, not him
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What he said was spot on dude you look the ass here, not him
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Useless responses are no better than useless threads imo.
To the OP. The likelihood of that many bad phones in a row with the exact same problem is pretty rare. Take a look at anything that's remained consistent through all the phones, and try replacing that item(s).
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Useless responses are no better than useless threads imo.
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It's not useless if it keeps him or someone else from doing the same thing.
twiggums said:
Useless responses are no better than useless threads imo.
To the OP. The likelihood of that many bad phones in a row with the exact same problem is pretty rare. Take a look at anything that's remained consistent through all the phones, and try replacing that item(s).
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+1 for replacing the cord and power brick. Alot less quality is put into them compared to the phone. Just make sure not to buy cheap. And never plug your phone into anything cheap (i.e. car radio usb port, off brand charger, ect) That's not saying everything else is bad. But why risk it. Especially when you can buy brand name chargers off ebay for $5 or less.
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I've only used the supplied USB cord, every time. Now even when my phone isn't confused if it's charging or not, the battery life is now awful. 5-6% per hour drain. Used to be 1-2%. No changes made by me. Also the phone has become super laggy at times. Feel like i'm using my cappy again. My apologies for starting this post. I knew I would most likely get crap for it, but my issue is very strange, IMO, compared to mine and others previous experiences. I also figured if I added to an old post, it would go unnoticed.
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I've only used the supplied USB cord, every time. Now even when my phone isn't confused if it's charging or not, the battery life is now awful. 5-6% per hour drain. Used to be 1-2%. No changes made by me. Also the phone has become super laggy at times. Feel like i'm using my cappy again. My apologies for starting this post. I knew I would most likely get crap for it, but my issue is very strange, IMO, compared to mine and others previous experiences. I also figured if I added to an old post, it would go unnoticed.
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5% an hours not bad. Your saying ur phone used to last 2 to 4 days (100-200hours) on a single charge normal use? No exaggeration?
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5% an hours not bad. Your saying ur phone used to last 2 to 4 days (100-200hours) on a single charge normal use? No exaggeration?
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If he is getting 5% per hour drain at idle, yes that is horrible battery life. SGS2 is fairly easily capable of 1% per hour idle drain.
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i had this same problem. it wasnt with the port but it was with the usb cables i was using. but those cables would charge the phone fine but not allow it to get a connection with the computer. swapped cables and works fine.
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I've only used the supplied USB cord, every time. Now even when my phone isn't confused if it's charging or not, the battery life is now awful. 5-6% per hour drain. Used to be 1-2%. No changes made by me. Also the phone has become super laggy at times. Feel like i'm using my cappy again. My apologies for starting this post. I knew I would most likely get crap for it, but my issue is very strange, IMO, compared to mine and others previous experiences. I also figured if I added to an old post, it would go unnoticed.
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You've used the same cord with all 3? or a new cord with each one?
It sounds like you've got a boatload of issues going on. Personally i'd do a wipe and try a fresh install without installing any additional stuff to be sure the hardware is fine.. Once you've verified that start adding apps to see if it was a specific one causing the issue. (there's other ways to troubleshoot this, but a fresh wipe is the most straight forward and simple IMO)
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5% an hours not bad. Your saying ur phone used to last 2 to 4 days (100-200hours) on a single charge normal use? No exaggeration?
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%5/hr idle is not good, at all. Last night my phone dropped %5 over 9 hours idle. how is 2-4 days equal to 100-200 hrs? where i'm from 2-4 days = 48-96 hrs
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You've used the same cord with all 3? or a new cord with each one?
It sounds like you've got a boatload of issues going on. Personally i'd do a wipe and try a fresh install without installing any additional stuff to be sure the hardware is fine.. Once you've verified that start adding apps to see if it was a specific one causing the issue. (there's other ways to troubleshoot this, but a fresh wipe is the most straight forward and simple IMO)
%5/hr idle is not good, at all. Last night my phone dropped %5 over 9 hours idle. how is 2-4 days equal to 100-200 hrs? where i'm from 2-4 days = 48-96 hrs
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I understand that, hence why I said under normal use, also he doesn't say at idle, and talks about it being laggy n the same statement...
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I understand that, hence why I said under normal use, also he doesn't say at idle, and talks about it being laggy n the same statement...
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i suppose.
However he said before it was 1-2 percent an hour. That's pretty much impossible while being used, only get numbers like that while not in use (idle). Even %5 an hour while being used isn't likely to happen. Guess i just figured it had to be in ref to idle drain.
lol guess we just wait to see
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i suppose.
However he said before it was 1-2 percent an hour. That's pretty much impossible while being used, only get numbers like that while not in use (idle). Even %5 an hour while being used isn't likely to happen. Guess i just figured it had to be in ref to idle drain.
lol guess we just wait to see
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I gotcha, all good. I guess I assume a phone just doesn't sit there at idle......., I know mine doesn't!
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It's not useless if it keeps him or someone else from doing the same thing.
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It is useless because no matter how many times people are told to use search function they never do.
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Why would you power down, when the sleep state is as efficient as it is? Do you all turn your devices completely off while you're not using your tablet, or do you just let it sleep?
Picture: My device sleeping for ~8 hours.
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I turn every electronic device off at night when I'm going to sleep.
Its just a personal preference, I just don't like things running and getting wear and tear when I'm not using them at all.
My phone gets turned on when I wake up, but my tablet usually doesn't get turned on until almost 16 hours later due to work and school.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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Thank you both for your excellent opinions. This will make for a good argument. I'll do a little experiment... I'll charge my tablet up to 100%, and let it sit in a sleep state for 24 hours, and we'll see how much battery drain it experiences. Check back on Tuesday.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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Some browsers dont let them show up properly. It works fine for me and other users.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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This is my exact opinion too.
mrRobinson said:
No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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this ^
Some people have a need/desire for being able to receive and to know about timely updates of email, news, text messages and calls incoming to cell phone (via apps like cloudsms, tablet talk), etc whether it be for work or just for pleasure. It still baffles me why wptski thinks people have to justify it. Use the tablet however you want to use it. There's no right or wrong way. Where the heck did you read that it was horrible and awful to let your tablet sleep? Why do you think the makers of this tablet (and every single tablet ever created) incorporated the ability for the device to go into deep sleep, a state in which it consumes next to no battery?
I use my Nexus 10 as an alarm clock, and to receive calls and texts with Google Voice; I need it on at all times pretty much
I don't shut mine off. I turn wifi off when I'm done with it and have zero drain. I like to be able to just pick it up and surf the net or play a game. I don't like to wait for it to boot, plus I have a fair share of widgets on my home screen so it usually takes a while to load.
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Some people have a need/desire for being able to receive and to know about timely updates of email, news, text messages and calls incoming to cell phone (via apps like cloudsms, tablet talk), etc whether it be for work or just for pleasure. It still baffles me why wptski thinks people have to justify it. Use the tablet however you want to use it. There's no right or wrong way. Where the heck did you read that it was horrible and awful to let your tablet sleep? Why do you think the makers of this tablet (and every single tablet ever created) incorporated the ability for the device to go into deep sleep, a state in which it consumes next to no battery?
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One has a reason for everything they do. If it's for real time receiving, emails news, etc., fine, that's a reason. To charge in sleep mode overnight without the previous mentioned reasons makes no sense at all.
I use the sleep mode if on battery when I leave the room for whatever. Sure they all have that feature but do think it was intended to be used as the for all extended charging times?
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Some browsers dont let them show up properly. It works fine for me and other users.
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They appeared fine in the other thread just not in this one.
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No one doesn't. I don't feel like shutting it off. I see virtually no battery drain yet apps i use for news feeds, twitter, etc are instantly available at a moments notice. This thread will be complete personal preference, I am aware there is no right or wrong answer here (you seem not to have that awareness) but in my head, there is no logical reason TO shut it off.
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There you go, a reason. I didn't say it was right or wrong, just simply asked, why, which seemed to really bother some users. The one thing that I'm aware of is that there are some people here that don't like anyone to question why they do something.
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One has a reason for everything they do. If it's for real time receiving, emails news, etc., fine, that's a reason. To charge in sleep mode overnight without the previous mentioned reasons makes no sense at all.
I use the sleep mode if on battery when I leave the room for whatever. Sure they all have that feature but do think it was intended to be used as the for all extended charging times?
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They appeared fine in the other thread just not in this one.
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There you go, a reason. I didn't say it was right or wrong, just simply asked, why, which seemed to really bother some users. The one thing that I'm aware of is that there are some people here that don't like anyone to question why they do something.
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It's just like Plug and Play. Do you unplug your mouse after you stop using your computer? I'm sure you don't. Apply the same principle here and you'll see why it makes it more tedious (I.e. makes no sense in my opinion as well) to shut it down instead of just pressing a button to go into sleep( where it uses little to no battery) and have it ready for you at a moment's notice.
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It's just like Plug and Play. Do you unplug your mouse after you stop using your computer? I'm sure you don't. Apply the same principle here and you'll see why it makes it more tedious (I.e. makes no sense in my opinion as well) to shut it down instead of just pressing a button to go into sleep( where it uses little to no battery) and have it ready for you at a moment's notice.
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No, I don't unplug my mouse but it's not ON. I don't dim a light either, I shut it OFF. More tedious??? Are you serious??? Mine boots in 13 seconds! Nothing is that important that I'd need to use my tablet in a moments notice. This is a difference of priorities in life and may have something to do with age groups.
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More than a preferenc, one needs a good, logical reason not to shut if OFF.
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I disagree. Since turning the tablet off has disadvantages versus sleep, one needs a good reason not to use sleep. Turning off the tablet takes more effort than tapping the power button, or in my case simple using the magnetic switch. Additionally, when you want to use the tablet again it takes less time to wake the tablet. Also, apps will be in the same state that you left them and you can receive notifications, alarms, etc.
The advantage of turning the tablet off? Saving <1% of battery or saving a whole 1% of battery if you are leaving it overnight.
But in the end you're probably right, it is perhaps more than a preference for some. I would akin habitually feeling the *need* to always turn the tablet off to some type of OCD.
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I disagree. Since turning the tablet off has disadvantages versus sleep, one needs a good reason not to use sleep. Turning off the tablet takes more effort than tapping the power button, or in my case simple using the magnetic switch. Additionally, when you want to use the tablet again it takes less time to wake the tablet. Also, apps will be in the same state that you left them and you can receive notifications, alarms, etc.
The advantage of turning the tablet off? Saving <1% of battery or saving a whole 1% of battery if you are leaving it overnight.
But in the end you're probably right, it is perhaps more than a preference for some. I would akin habitually feeling the *need* to always turn the tablet off to some type of OCD.
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Don't you see where you actually gave a reason?? Well, except for the extra effort part, I follow you.
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging. Before you I never met anyone who followed this practice. I see turning a device off as supposed to be used for when you are done using a device for a long period of time and dont need it to be on. If we are supposed to turn these off anytime we stop using the tablet or to charge, why would companies bother to spend so much effort looking for ways to bring the device into such deep sleep levels and bring its sleep drain down to next to nothing? Also, if we were supposed to turn a device off then no one would allow charging while connected to a computer to transfer files. You claim we all need to have some great reason for not turning the tablet off, and we are all giving you one. You just wont accept that reason and feel there needs to be a greater one. Yet you have not given any better reason as to why you feel a tablet must be turned off between uses. Also when you first started this debate with your question as to why, the wording you chose implied that we were all wrong and you are right, and everything you have said since then goes more to that mindset. If you don't like that people take what you say the wrong way, then find a different way to say it that isn't so offensive.
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging.
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I usually don't turn off my devices while charging them either. I did turn my N10 off to charge it one day recently in hopes to charge it as much as possible in a short time span, but I really have no idea if it helped
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Actually yes I do. No where does it say in any manual whatsoever for any tablet or smartphone that you are to turn off the device when charging. Before you I never met anyone who followed this practice. I see turning a device off as supposed to be used for when you are done using a device for a long period of time and dont need it to be on. If we are supposed to turn these off anytime we stop using the tablet or to charge, why would companies bother to spend so much effort looking for ways to bring the device into such deep sleep levels and bring its sleep drain down to next to nothing? Also, if we were supposed to turn a device off then no one would allow charging while connected to a computer to transfer files. You claim we all need to have some great reason for not turning the tablet off, and we are all giving you one. You just wont accept that reason and feel there needs to be a greater one. Yet you have not given any better reason as to why you feel a tablet must be turned off between uses. Also when you first started this debate with your question as to why, the wording you chose implied that we were all wrong and you are right, and everything you have said since then goes more to that mindset. If you don't like that people take what you say the wrong way, then find a different way to say it that isn't so offensive.
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If I would have that asking why somebody did something would cause such a turmoil. Where do get that I expect a great reason to leave it ON while charging overnight? Just a reason is good enough and I got a few. If you have a reason to, leave it ON. Now if somebody leaves it ON every night while charging but not for any of the reasons mentioned it wouldn't make any sense.
If you think that I've been offensive, you can't take criticism very well. You can't be asked why you did something? C'mon!
wow - I didn't expect the bloody spanish inquisition!
almost sounds like an android vs ios thread...
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It's mostly just your unwillingness to accept that some people see no need to turn it off at night, whether they have a specific reason or not. Glad you've come around though, and I hope one day soon, you'll turn off your wifi and let it SLEEP.
Well I've seen many mixed feelings on this gear S, for the first time in years this is one device that has peeked my interest, so I picked one up having the least expectations I possibly could have and man has it truely exceeded everything I thought it would be limited to.
So my first thing I did was burn through the battery as fast as possible by trying every possible thing I could do with this thing to get the "yayyy new gadget buzz" out of me and with heavy use it'll fly through it's power source, and it sure can be a fun gadget, afterwards I gave it a full charge and changed the settings to businesses/everyday normal use (turn on when I touch, don't notify me when using my phone, 7 important notifications, always no mobile signal because i make it feed off my grandfathered unlimited plan , and etc...)so that i use it truely as a extention of my phone and not solely a stand alone(but very nice to have that option), because carrying my phone with me is standard and i don't plan on leaving it behind on purpose just to be able to so my phwatch off because it's not important that people ask me "wow what is that on your wrist" this is for my personal entertainment and use, and not to be recognized for, but anyway after a full charge and 1 day of use after changing the settings to "NO SHOW OFF MODE" LOL, I'm down from 100% to 79%, even with a few "I gotta touch this thing moments", but that alone has me well off to feeling like this is a good purchase alone.
It gives me the convenience of not having to pull my phone out to see who's calling, i have my phone on silent and when my phwatch vibrates i check my wrist and judge within a few seconds of not having to fumble around in my pockets to answer or not, same with text. There have been many time where i pull my phone out or chase my phone down in another room and get frustrated that i even had to grab it just to ignore it, or wonder why all this for nothing.
I truely think if you're looking to get this thing then you wanting it alone should be enough to justify getting it's your money spend it, you can't bury it with you, enjoy yourself, but for me it was the fact i wouldn't have to buy watches as I can change the face to my liking and soon will be able to change the straps to coordinate, and to come along with all the extra features i didn't get it for makes this feel like a steal.
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Well I've seen many mixed feelings on this gear S, for the first time in years this is one device that has peeked my interest, so I picked one up having the least expectations I possibly could have and man has it truely exceeded everything I thought it would be limited to.
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Welcome aboard the exclusive Phwatch train and join the club for posers! I can 100% relate to everything you said and I think my experience on day one was exactly the same as you.
It certainly is something to show off. I have invented new (and often painful) ways to position my arm to fully maximize the chances of my friends/colleagues catching sight of it and asking about it, I am only too poised to start flicking through screens to amaze and astound them. Followed by the inevitable "How much did it cost?" of course, which when I tell them further astonishes and astounds them
I have been using the sleep app and really like it.. I normally get 4-5 hours, but now that I can see it I am up to 7 hours of sleep. It makes a difference when you can see it (at least to me)
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I have been using the sleep app and really like it.. I normally get 4-5 hours, but now that I can see it I am up to 7 hours of sleep. It makes a difference when you can see it (at least to me)
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Hmmmmm, I don't find it to be comfortable to sleep in ... Maybe they should create a comfort band specifically for sleeping.