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So I really really REALLY like SGS2 and would love to get one. But before I do, one question...
I like to keep my phone plugged in and turned on while I'm at work or at home at the computer. But having done some reading, I see that SGS2 is susceptible to the screen burn in issue. Is that true? Should I not get it in that case?
As I said, I REALLY like the phone, but if I need to change my usage habits just to avoid a known issue, I'd rather look for an alternative.
meshdub said:
Hola!
So I really really REALLY like SGS2 and would love to get one. But before I do, one question...
I like to keep my phone plugged in and turned on while I'm at work or at home at the computer. But having done some reading, I see that SGS2 is susceptible to the screen burn in issue. Is that true? Should I not get it in that case?
As I said, I REALLY like the phone, but if I need to change my usage habits just to avoid a known issue, I'd rather look for an alternative.
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It's got a SAMOLED screen. Google's your friend...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED#Disadvantages
^^ Ditto!
OP - SGS2 is NOT for you. Further if you like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times, I suggest the much cheaper MagicJack.
yes, I'm aware of what type of screen it has, thank you. That's the reason I asked about the issue.
I've never had a phone with an amoled screen, so I can only go off of others' experience.
What I'm wondering about is if there are any solutions that would go along with my usage habits. I don't remember what phone I was reading about (Nexus One?), but it had a feature where it would display a moving clock screensaver when docked in. Something along those lines when plugged into USB? Or maybe there are some new technology improvements in SGS2 that I don't know about?
OP - SGS2 is NOT for you. Further if you like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times, I suggest the much cheaper MagicJack.
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Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I "like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times"
If you're going to leave the screen on for a long time every day on the same screen, there will be a burn in. But I imagine with normal use (even for extended periods of time, but the screen changes screens often) there shouldn't be any problems.
So I'd probably skip on this phone if you leave the phone on for 8 hours on the same screen. Maybe the HTC Sensation? Also a VERY good phone, just not as good as the SGS2 ^^
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If you're going to leave the screen on for a long time every day on the same screen, there will be a burn in. But I imagine with normal use (even for extended periods of time, but the screen changes screens often) there shouldn't be any problems.
So I'd probably skip on this phone if you leave the phone on for 8 hours on the same screen. Maybe the HTC Sensation? Also a VERY good phone, just not as good as the SGS2 ^^
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Yeah, my main concern is when I'm at work, since I'm at my desk most of the time there. I'll probably have to settle on the Sensation after all. As you said, it's really nice, but not quite as good as SGS2. Such a shame >_<
Thanks for the suggestion!
Why do you keep the screen on all day?
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intruda119 said:
Why do you keep the screen on all day?
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I text a lot and get a bunch of emails usually. It really annoys me to have to turn on/unlock the phone every time I get a notification. It's nice to see it a glance when it's on the desk in front of you.
meshdub said:
I text a lot and get a bunch of emails usually. It really annoys me to have to turn on/unlock the phone every time I get a notification. It's nice to see it a glance when it's on the desk in front of you.
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text app like handcent allows your screen to turn on when you receive a message with a popup message, you can read it immediately and reply instantly without pressing any extra button.
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text app like handcent allows your screen to turn on when you receive a message with a popup message, you can read it immediately and reply instantly without pressing any extra button.
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Yeah, I actually use it. But I don't always read the texts right away while working. And if the phone is unplugged, it will go back to sleep after a popup shows up.
It's just a personal preference =)
Its funny how lazy people have gotten.
I had original sgs2 for about a year and left it on bright screens with random things on with no burn in issues.
Had sgs2 for a month and have left it on overnight while on lockscreen(bright orange) and others and have no burn in issues.
I haven't personally seen any claims of burn on these forums or sgs forums. Just mostly people asking about it.
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Ha, have to admit, I'm pretty lazy
But that's interesting that there's been no reports of it happening... Hmm wonder if I should just say F it and go for it. But then again, I guess you'd have to be consistent about leaving your screen on for long periods of time. I doubt it would burn in if you leave it on for a night or two.
Why don't you go search some of the SGS and variant threads as well as the Nexus S. They use the same screen technology and have been out a lot longer. If they aren't experiencing issues you probably won't either.
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Why don't you go search some of the SGS and variant threads as well as the Nexus S. They use the same screen technology and have been out a lot longer. If they aren't experiencing issues you probably won't either.
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I did search before creating the thread. I saw some people reporting burn ins on other phones, but wasn't sure if anything has been improved lately technology-wise that could prevent the issue. I guess not...
I do realize though that it's quite early to see such reports on SGS2.
meshdub said:
yes, I'm aware of what type of screen it has, thank you. That's the reason I asked about the issue.
I've never had a phone with an amoled screen, so I can only go off of others' experience.
What I'm wondering about is if there are any solutions that would go along with my usage habits. I don't remember what phone I was reading about (Nexus One?), but it had a feature where it would display a moving clock screensaver when docked in. Something along those lines when plugged into USB? Or maybe there are some new technology improvements in SGS2 that I don't know about?
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said I "like to keep a phone plugged into computer at all times"
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yes you can and will burn in your AMOLED screen if left on all the time.
my nexus one actually has in the instruction manual to not use the phone for more than 30 minutes of screen on time. that's actually written in the OFFICIAL manual. perhaps later generations of amoled from samsung got better, but burn in still will happen.
note: i use my nexus one with screen on for 3 hours at a time, but i just dont leave a static image in one spot. i'm constantly web browsing etc so no real issue of major burn in. however my status bar did get burnt into the screen after the first month of owning the nexus one. not bad, but present.
meshdub said:
Ha, have to admit, I'm pretty lazy
But that's interesting that there's been no reports of it happening... Hmm wonder if I should just say F it and go for it. But then again, I guess you'd have to be consistent about leaving your screen on for long periods of time. I doubt it would burn in if you leave it on for a night or two.
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there are PLENTY of threads right here at XDA complaining about burn in on samsung amoled and super amoled screens. start in the nexus one forum, then search the galaxy s forum.
Decided to try to call Verizon and again inquire about heat. I was very specific in the inquiry ... basically that I was just checking to see if Verizon had any notes about heat, now that the phone has been out for a while.
The CSR said she did see something about exchanging batteries and would pass me on the tech support as a warranty issue.
The tech support person, after a seriously long hold time, said she reviewed the Verizon trouble database, checked with a teir 2 analyst, and even called HTC.
Not surprisingly (once HTC was involved) she came back with:
1) We recommend people with heat issues use a Vinyl case to help with heat [I guess Vinyl has heat-dissipation capabilities I was not previously aware of]
2) Hard reset the phone
3) If you are streaming and your phone gets hot, stop streaming for a while
4) Buy an extended battery [did that, still gets hot]
5) This is a very powerful processor, so it will get hot.
#5 is the key. It means"we have found the excuse that will get us out of this".
The tech rep said she saw nothing about battery exchange. She acknowledged MANY internet reports about heat, but said that Verizon can only do what HTC says they can do; and that hopefully HTC would take all these reports and develop a software fix that manages the heat better.
So no joy from Verizon, which is killing me because I really want to unlock and root, but am staying away in case the phone is no good. Of course, for all I know, I don't have heat issues, but too many people saying things like "I never go above 105" have me paranoid about my phone (which can get to 115 in regular game play, and once got to 120 in a car). If I knew that "Relocked" wouldn't be an issue if I ever had to warranty in the future, I would go ahead, but ... ugh.
Anyway, in case anyone wanted to know.
Damn talk about a run-around. Normally my phone doesn't get warm until I really start using it...for example...One day just cleaning up the house and streaming Pandora for hours allowed my phone to get fairly warm.
It's never shut down on me or anything but it still is worrisome. Makes me wonder if there is an issue with all these phones but not many people REALLY use them to find out.
Well
My phone has never rebooted on me, and perhaps too many people claiming their usage never gets the phone above X degrees is simply too specific to each person to actually mean anything to anyone else (and all these stories have done, is F'd with my mind, making me think my phone runs hot when maybe it actually doesn't) ...
but, I'll tell you this ...
This is all well and good for a phone released in November. When summer rolls around, and the ambient temperature is no longer low, I think we are going to see a lot of problems and fast. If the standard user gets to 105 in a room that's 70, that means the standard user will start seeing 135 when it is hot out. Those that can get to 115 right now, that's an explosion waiting to happen come July.
I have had two Rezound's. I stream audio all day long at work, either iheart radio or sirius radio online.
Both these services cause ANY phone to get rather warm. I'm not sure what temp my first one went to, but it got so hot in my pocket I thought it was going to burn me. Even using a 2750 batt it was going dead in like 4 hours.
The phone was two weeks old. I called VZ & they wanted to send me a refurb. I told them NFW & they finally agreed to send me a brand new phone. The new phone barely gets warm in the same conditions & that same 2750 battery lasts all day now.
My phone on average use gets about 100-105, 110 if the screen is on and on full brightness for a while. Highest I've seen is 125 when I was using an MHL adapter for over an hour, then the phone shut down. Other than that I haven't seen any shut downs related to heat. I do agree though that come summer, this IS going to be a problem, but hopefully by then they'll have figured out a way to better manage heat... I hope.
Ya know, I think people are losing sight of the fact that the power of these cpus has increased dramatically in only a couple of years. I'm typing this on a dual core 2.2GHz lenovo laptop that has cooling fans, and is running 109f doing very little. Why should we expect a dual core 1.5 jammed into a metal and plastic brick without vent holes, much less fans, to run cool?
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kierandill said:
Ya know, I think people are losing sight of the fact that the power of these cpus has increased dramatically in only a couple of years. I'm typing this on a dual core 2.2GHz lenovo laptop that has cooling fans, and is running 109f doing very little. Why should we expect a dual core 1.5 jammed into a metal and plastic brick without vent holes, much less fans, to run cool?
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I agree with that no issues. I suspect a lot of my concerns comes from various people at XDA saying "I stream 1080P while playing Reckless Getaway while listening to Pandora over 1x while on the telephone and my phone never gets any warmer than 32°F/0°C".
Unfortunately, without someone with one of those magic Rezounds standing right next to me, running the same game (for example), there is no way to REALLY know if a phone is operating normally or not.
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This is all well and good for a phone released in November. When summer rolls around, and the ambient temperature is no longer low, I think we are going to see a lot of problems and fast. If the standard user gets to 105 in a room that's 70, that means the standard user will start seeing 135 when it is hot out. Those that can get to 115 right now, that's an explosion waiting to happen come July.
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I welcome this problem coming in at summertime as they may be forced to replace my rezound with one of the new quad cores or somethin.. dont get me wrong I love this phone but if a defect got me the latest/greatest I'd be all over it..
So I'm very seriously considering getting one, hopefully I can get it for around 150 on CL, but I have some questions. I do plan on installing CM9, and will probably never go to web os.
First question, what is your battery life like? I currently have a nook color on cm7, and that thing can go forever without charging. Clearly, it is unrealistic for me to expect to get better or as good life, but I don't want to have to charge it every 4 hours either. So briefly, what is your battery life during use and idle?
Second, I tried reading through the development forums, and as far as I can tell, the only way to boot cm9 is to use moboot (or cyboot?). Am I incorrect in this assumption, or can webOS be removed completely?
Lastly, knowing what you guys know, is there another tablet that you would prefer for the 150-200 price range? I actually would kind of prefer something around 7", and was considering the acer iconia a100, but the locked bootloader, lack of development, and reported crap battery life is turning me off.
Thanks, everyone!
I actually came from a nook color as well with cm7 on it. I'm so happy with my touch pad. Its the best hardware out there for the money. When I got mine I immediately put cm9 on it and it runs so smooth. Battery life is pretty good but I can't say for sure how well because I'm always on my touch pad but it last me all day at work using it non stop for internet, games, and video.
I only know of motoboot and I'm not sure if you can remove webos completely. But like I said, the specs this thing has is way worth it and just as good as some of the higher priced tablets out there IMO.
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When I was playing a lot of Jelly Defense the TP wouldn't last a day. For just surfing the web and such you'll get plenty of battery life - just don't expect nook battery life (I also came from the Nook which I gave to my wife).
I don't think there is any reason to remove WebOS. Not sure if you can, but not sure why you would want to. If you keep your docs/music in the cloud then even a 16GB TP should have plenty of storage space for you - even with two OSs on it.
I don't know what other tablets are in the $150-$200 range other than refurbs and Coby-style junk. I have been seeing some name brand tablet refurbs coming toward this price range but nothing I would think that is better than the TP right now. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the supposed Google tablet that is going to be in your price range. Not sure if there are any credible specs out there yet.
The best battery life will come from webOS. While running webOS I was able to get over a week of standby, it went from like 90% to like 2% in that time. In android I could easily get a few days of idle, with seeing about on par for my phone battery loss, I want to say in the ~1%/hour range. I can watch probably 5-8 hours of Netflix on a charge, so pulling data over wifi, and processing hardware decoded video with screen on. I don't play games other than casual like draw something.
You cannot remove webOS. This has been discussed since CM7, and I believe the first response was something along the lines of webOS is nice, the devs like it, and there may or may not be parts of it required to run android. Tri-boot was discussed to run CM7, CM9 and webOS, but that never went anywhere. Moboot is the boot menu. You are presented the boot menu at every start up. After a pre-set delay a default will boot. Cyboot is a preware app in webOS to change the default OS and delay. Moboot is the only way to enter CWM. Reboot recovery only works sometimes if at all. And there is no key combos to load into CWM. I set the moboot delay to 1 sec, and don't worry about it. I probably power cycle my TouchPad less than once every two weeks now the ROMs have settled, so that 1second isn't much in the big picture.
For me the 7" size is too small, I use my TP for web browsing 90%+ of my use, so the 3" bigger screen is used a lot, and makes a world of difference to me. Because of my use I also stayed on webOS until CM9. I have a 2.3 phone, and a 10" phone that doesn't make calls didn't appeal to me. webOS has a solid browser, and an intuitive elegant user interface. So I ranked it higher than CM7. CM9 has been great. The browser is good, but tablet optimized apps selection is still poor. Google doesn't seem motivated to change that anytime soon, and you will have the same issue on any android tablet. My TP is a stop gap until W8 tablets are out. Given the price, and other choices in the same price range, I see no reason to get anything other than the TouchPad.
If you do get the TouchPad I recommend getting a TouchStone. That is the Inductive charger. You just place the TP on this easel, and it charges, no wires. It works through cases too. I use the HP official case, I was concerned other cases might not sit on the TouchStone as securely as the official case. It has a microfiber lining in the front that cleans the screen fairly well automatically, and protects the back from fingerprints. And the TP is a fingerprint magnet without a case.
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Awesome summary Quarlow.
I love my touchpad, and with cm9 i couldnt ask for more, i do leave webos on it because there are certain things like skype video calling that i will boot into webos for, but for the most part i never leave android. You will NOT find a better tablet for that price, battery life will depend on how you tweak it. I run mine overclcocked at around1.7ghz all the time and its super fast and battery life is great, if i want to tighten down the specs i can run this badboy 9+ hours without a break.
dung8604 said:
So I'm very seriously considering getting one, hopefully I can get it for around 150 on CL, but I have some questions. I do plan on installing CM9, and will probably never go to web os.
First question, what is your battery life like? I currently have a nook color on cm7, and that thing can go forever without charging. Clearly, it is unrealistic for me to expect to get better or as good life, but I don't want to have to charge it every 4 hours either. So briefly, what is your battery life during use and idle?
Second, I tried reading through the development forums, and as far as I can tell, the only way to boot cm9 is to use moboot (or cyboot?). Am I incorrect in this assumption, or can webOS be removed completely?
Lastly, knowing what you guys know, is there another tablet that you would prefer for the 150-200 price range? I actually would kind of prefer something around 7", and was considering the acer iconia a100, but the locked bootloader, lack of development, and reported crap battery life is turning me off.
Thanks, everyone!
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These Q's have all been asked and answered here before, multiple times. The first 2 Q's have been answered, I'm sure of it, in one thread together even.
With the search function, I found this.
Read here.
Or here.
Or here.
Or here.
Or here.
There are more, but I'm getting tired of doing homework for other people. I haven't even had my coffee this morning yet. You can easily find them though too, use the button marked 'Search'.
To your questions, though...
1. Not anywhere NEAR what you can get from your Nook. CM's an Alpha on the TP. WebOS battery life is sensational, though...even on heavy use with wifi on, in webOS, I can go a week. In webOS overnight, when I forgot to turn wifi off, it sometimes doesn't even drop 1%. In Android, it could drop 5-8% if I'm lucky.
2. Correct. No, you're not incorrect. Why would you want to throw away your free insurance and risk bricking your device? Moboot prevents you (or noobs in general) from toasting their TPs. I can't understand why people ask this question before they get their TPs. It's as if you've assumed that webOS is terrible, but it's not. Like I said, battery life is awesome. I've got CM9 on my TP, too, but webOS isn't useless...if anything, it's much[ /B] more stable than Android on this device, better battery, and everything works. Bear in mind, that on CM there is still stuff that just doesn't work! Camera, H/W acceleration (sometimes, it works in some apps).
This question is like asking a car salesman, before you buy a car, if you can take parts out of the motor without knowing about it. Sorry if I sound like a ****, but this question gets old.
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3. No. But I bet google might...but no seriously, the Kindle Fire maybe. :confused
Thank you for the answer, guys. You've convinced me to get the touchpad. I do apologize for repeating questions you guys are sick of. The search function on mobile really really sucks.
One last question, do you guys think that 200 for a used 32gb is a good deal via craiglist? I read the other thread where several users said a fair price was 160 to 170 for a used 16gb.
Yes, $200 for a 32g is a really good price. I had a second TP which I put cm9 on and sold it for $250 on CL....within 15min of posting of it....
I'd try to haggle down from $200, but to be honest it's not bad at all.
I was lucky enough to get one thru the XDA MP for $130 (a 16 gig) and I am VERY pleasantly surprised with this device. I used to have a gTab, let me tell you, this device is a lot better, and it runs Android SO well, just fix the camera and you're good to go!
Battery life for me is awesome, with my CM9 setup I get a full day with moderate use, and I mean where am I going for a week that I can't charge it? I mean seriously who doesn't charge it at night? Like if I was going to be in a cave for a week maybe I'd get a kindle or something...
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I'd try to haggle down from $200, but to be honest it's not bad at all.
I was lucky enough to get one thru the XDA MP for $130 (a 16 gig) and I am VERY pleasantly surprised with this device. I used to have a gTab, let me tell you, this device is a lot better, and it runs Android SO well, just fix the camera and you're good to go!
Battery life for me is awesome, with my CM9 setup I get a full day with moderate use, and I mean where am I going for a week that I can't charge it? I mean seriously who doesn't charge it at night? Like if I was going to be in a cave for a week maybe I'd get a kindle or something...
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That's a really good deal! I ended up with a 16 gig for 160. Kind of unfortunate, because right after I bought it, another guy offered a 32 gig for 180. Oh well, I'm still very happy with my purchase.
So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
averygagaanroid said:
So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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1) I have the white one. It does attract a quite high quantity of dirt. The back is easy to clean. Just use a smooth humid cloth on it. For the lens, it's easier to clean it removing the back cover. The Xperia Logo on the bottom, and on the Camera, HDMI and USB logos on the sides also get dirty quite easily. The dust enters the little "depression" and get stuck in there. If someone knows a good way to clean this, please let me know.
2)It's been quite a long time since the start of the production. Until batch 14, almost all devices had it, on batches 15 and 16 it almost has gone. We must be on batches 30 or 40 by now, so no need to worry.
3)I think it's enough for me, and should be enough for you. Check the battery thread, and look at my posts to see my results.
4)Well, my carrier sucks for that. I badly can enter a corridor on my school without loosing signal. But I also had this with my old X10 MP. I think the coverage is good (not so good now, as I'm using Turkey FW, with a different baseband, but it doesn't make it unusable)
5)I always kept it on, so I can't tell the difference, really. Most people seems to have problems since the first ICS update (I also have this problem, but the screen is still awesome)
6)GPS for that is good for me. I also don't drive (heck, I'm 15 years old), but it is really accurate (with internet connection it's even better, as it have A-GPS)
Hope I helped.
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1) I have the white one. It does attract a quite high quantity of dirt. The back is easy to clean. Just use a smooth humid cloth on it. For the lens, it's easier to clean it removing the back cover. The Xperia Logo on the bottom, and on the Camera, HDMI and USB logos on the sides also get dirty quite easily. The dust enters the little "depression" and get stuck in there. If someone knows a good way to clean this, please let me know.
2)It's been quite a long time since the start of the production. Until batch 14, almost all devices had it, on batches 15 and 16 it almost has gone. We must be on batches 30 or 40 by now, so no need to worry.
3)I think it's enough for me, and should be enough for you. Check the battery thread, and look at my posts to see my results.
4)Well, my carrier sucks for that. I badly can enter a corridor on my school without loosing signal. But I also had this with my old X10 MP. I think the coverage is good (not so good now, as I'm using Turkey FW, with a different baseband, but it doesn't make it unusable)
5)I always kept it on, so I can't tell the difference, really. Most people seems to have problems since the first ICS update (I also have this problem, but the screen is still awesome)
6)GPS for that is good for me. I also don't drive (heck, I'm 15 years old), but it is really accurate (with internet connection it's even better, as it have A-GPS)
Hope I helped.
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Thanks for the reply.
About the batches, do you know how to check what batch it is? Since in Australia the Xperia S doesnt sell very well (I know it since Im working for a phone company now), so I reckon there are a lot of old stock sticking around.
And what is the problem you're talking about? Sorry I should have done my research but Im dong my assignment now and the threads are HUGE
Thanks again !
averygagaanroid said:
Thanks for the reply.
About the batches, do you know how to check what batch it is? Since in Australia the Xperia S doesnt sell very well (I know it since Im working for a phone company now), so I reckon there are a lot of old stock sticking around.
And what is the problem you're talking about? Sorry I should have done my research but Im dong my assignment now and the threads are HUGE
Thanks again !
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The only way I know is to open the back cover of the phone. On it, there is white sticker with info about the phone. On the right side, there is the phone model (LT26i), another info and something like this, 12Wxx, where xx is the batch, W is week and 12 is year. Mine is W10, so I have the yellow spot. Sadly can't trade as Sony Brazil is horrible.
The problem, I meant is that the Bravia Engine isn't working for most on the ICS update.
No more inputs from anyone?
averygagaanroid said:
So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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Hey there,
1. I have the black xps, my friend owns the white version. It does attract quite a bit of dirt but using a case should solve the problem. (recommend nillkin hard case)
2. Yellow screen issue - my first xps had the defect, returned it to the service centre within a week of purchase and got a replacement in 2 weeks. The batch I now have is 12w16. So if it's possible for you to find out the production batch, I recommend you get anything beyond w14.
3. Battery life - immensely dropped after the ics update. Gb battery life was amazing (I'm referring to stock firmware). The issue is due to the phone unable to get enough deep sleep when the screen is off. (culprits being - alarm manager and power saver app, they keep restarting). On stock ics, with 3G constantly on, Wifi for a few hours, display on for about 3 hours, music for 30mins,auto sync on throughout - i get about 12-15 hours of battery life. With auto sync off, I get 3-4 hours more battery life.
4. About network signal etc. The phone doesn't have any issues. But if you're in a low coverage area, it's going to drain your battery even further. One bug I've noticed is that after a few hours or sometimes a day, my data connectivity just refuses to work, in spite of it showing active with the H/3G symbol. Only solution is a restart.
5. I keep my bravia engine off most of the time, honestly I can't really tell the difference cause the screen is one of the best in the market. Love the clarity.
6. Gps - no issues. Fast and accurate.
Hope this helped you.
Cheers!
averygagaanroid said:
So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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1. I used to own a XS before upgrade to the Acro S. A white one to be exact. I used a case all the time so there was little dirt to be worry about. I'm sure you'll feel the same. The 3 touch buttons on the front was horrid though.
2. If you buy a brand new one around this time, I doubt you will ever encounter this issue.
3. Battery do fine for me. It's about 3 hours of screen time, not very impressive but not bad at all.
4. Coverage is good. I've ever lost any signal.
5. You'll see a bit different in color, less vivid to be exact but you'll get used to it in tme.
6.GPS is fast and accurate.
Hope this help.
1)I have the older batch, so am having a yellow tint. Will send it for repair when I do have the time. As long as the bootloader is unlocked sony will gladly repaired it for you.
2)sony has said that bravia engine dont impact battery life, so u don't really need to turn it down
3)GPS is really really good, even without A-GPS( data off). Lock into position in seconds!. Must be the whole glonass thing,as other droids I use with data off,will need some time to few minutes to find me.
4)battery life,well as bad as most droids, 5 hours of screen time would drain it almost flat. But fast charging work as advertise, so plug it iN whenever possible,30 minits of charging could get it up around 50%.
5) call signal are really good, well at least I can comform it's better than samsung note,gio & s2.
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I really wanted a Samsung Gear S, I really really really really wanted one. I had bought the Gear 2 and it was almost perfect, all it really needed for me to be happy was the ability to make calls and have 3G connectivity. Well I finally got my Gear S and after some minor tweaking I had it pretty much all set up. I switched my old cell phone number to the watch as it was going to be my primary from then on. I set up email and calendar on it and was ready to rock.
Well after using it for a few calls, sent a couple of test text messages, read a couple emails, and looked at a couple of websites, my wrist was more than just slightly uncomfortably warm. It was almost hot. I took off the watch and realized it had just been getting steadily warmer since I had put it on. For all the things I liked about it, the discomfort of wearing it, along with knowing that if it was getting that hot then the battery was dumping fast, meant it just wasn't for me.
I will wait a couple of generations for the technology to get to where it needs to be. I know some people will say that it is meant as a companion device, but if that is all it was then why does the box say "this phone was made in korea"? In fact why give it the ability to make a call at all? All in all, I expected something better at $400. I am still hoping Samsung will find a way to make this concept work out.
At least you gave it a try. If it doesn't work for you, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I happen to like mine. I find it comfortable to wear. The battery lasts a day and a half, with alerts every 5 minutes. I don't bring my Note Edge phone with me much any more. I do have the Surface Pro if I need to write a long email or text.
I have never noticed mine getting warm. I mostly use it as a companion device, but lately I have been purposely leaving my phone behind and it has worked good for me.
Although, for me, the purpose of the smartwatch is to turn off all of the notifications I dont need all day long and only focus on what matters - phone, txt and email.
jamesdwalters said:
Well after using it for a few calls, sent a couple of test text messages, read a couple emails, and looked at a couple of websites, my wrist was more than just slightly uncomfortably warm. It was almost hot. I took off the watch and realized it had just been getting steadily warmer since I had put it on. For all the things I liked about it, the discomfort of wearing it, along with knowing that if it was getting that hot then the battery was dumping fast, meant it just wasn't for me.
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Can anyone confirm if this is a known issue with the Samsung Gear S - does it get very hot when running intense applications like web browsing, making phone calls, reading emails, etc?
According to Samsung itself the watch can get hot just from having a weak signal. Basically any time it uses " a lot" of battery power it will get hot. http://www.samsung.com/ae/support/skp/faq/1066618
racer83l said:
I have never noticed mine getting warm. I mostly use it as a companion device, but lately I have been purposely leaving my phone behind and it has worked good for me.
Although, for me, the purpose of the smartwatch is to turn off all of the notifications I dont need all day long and only focus on what matters - phone, txt and email.
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This was exactly the reason I bought it. Maybe it isn't for me because I live in B.F.E. where cell signal mostly sucks anyway
It is possible cell service has something to do with it. I'm outside NYC on long Island and have fantastic service.
Maybe that's the difference.
I have both bluetooth and 4G on all day and never feel the watch getting warm... not really Web browsing with it or anything like that though, mostly just notifications really.