So I'm very seriously considering getting one, hopefully I can get it for around 150 on CL, but I have some questions. I do plan on installing CM9, and will probably never go to web os.
First question, what is your battery life like? I currently have a nook color on cm7, and that thing can go forever without charging. Clearly, it is unrealistic for me to expect to get better or as good life, but I don't want to have to charge it every 4 hours either. So briefly, what is your battery life during use and idle?
Second, I tried reading through the development forums, and as far as I can tell, the only way to boot cm9 is to use moboot (or cyboot?). Am I incorrect in this assumption, or can webOS be removed completely?
Lastly, knowing what you guys know, is there another tablet that you would prefer for the 150-200 price range? I actually would kind of prefer something around 7", and was considering the acer iconia a100, but the locked bootloader, lack of development, and reported crap battery life is turning me off.
Thanks, everyone!
I actually came from a nook color as well with cm7 on it. I'm so happy with my touch pad. Its the best hardware out there for the money. When I got mine I immediately put cm9 on it and it runs so smooth. Battery life is pretty good but I can't say for sure how well because I'm always on my touch pad but it last me all day at work using it non stop for internet, games, and video.
I only know of motoboot and I'm not sure if you can remove webos completely. But like I said, the specs this thing has is way worth it and just as good as some of the higher priced tablets out there IMO.
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When I was playing a lot of Jelly Defense the TP wouldn't last a day. For just surfing the web and such you'll get plenty of battery life - just don't expect nook battery life (I also came from the Nook which I gave to my wife).
I don't think there is any reason to remove WebOS. Not sure if you can, but not sure why you would want to. If you keep your docs/music in the cloud then even a 16GB TP should have plenty of storage space for you - even with two OSs on it.
I don't know what other tablets are in the $150-$200 range other than refurbs and Coby-style junk. I have been seeing some name brand tablet refurbs coming toward this price range but nothing I would think that is better than the TP right now. The only thing I'd be concerned about is the supposed Google tablet that is going to be in your price range. Not sure if there are any credible specs out there yet.
The best battery life will come from webOS. While running webOS I was able to get over a week of standby, it went from like 90% to like 2% in that time. In android I could easily get a few days of idle, with seeing about on par for my phone battery loss, I want to say in the ~1%/hour range. I can watch probably 5-8 hours of Netflix on a charge, so pulling data over wifi, and processing hardware decoded video with screen on. I don't play games other than casual like draw something.
You cannot remove webOS. This has been discussed since CM7, and I believe the first response was something along the lines of webOS is nice, the devs like it, and there may or may not be parts of it required to run android. Tri-boot was discussed to run CM7, CM9 and webOS, but that never went anywhere. Moboot is the boot menu. You are presented the boot menu at every start up. After a pre-set delay a default will boot. Cyboot is a preware app in webOS to change the default OS and delay. Moboot is the only way to enter CWM. Reboot recovery only works sometimes if at all. And there is no key combos to load into CWM. I set the moboot delay to 1 sec, and don't worry about it. I probably power cycle my TouchPad less than once every two weeks now the ROMs have settled, so that 1second isn't much in the big picture.
For me the 7" size is too small, I use my TP for web browsing 90%+ of my use, so the 3" bigger screen is used a lot, and makes a world of difference to me. Because of my use I also stayed on webOS until CM9. I have a 2.3 phone, and a 10" phone that doesn't make calls didn't appeal to me. webOS has a solid browser, and an intuitive elegant user interface. So I ranked it higher than CM7. CM9 has been great. The browser is good, but tablet optimized apps selection is still poor. Google doesn't seem motivated to change that anytime soon, and you will have the same issue on any android tablet. My TP is a stop gap until W8 tablets are out. Given the price, and other choices in the same price range, I see no reason to get anything other than the TouchPad.
If you do get the TouchPad I recommend getting a TouchStone. That is the Inductive charger. You just place the TP on this easel, and it charges, no wires. It works through cases too. I use the HP official case, I was concerned other cases might not sit on the TouchStone as securely as the official case. It has a microfiber lining in the front that cleans the screen fairly well automatically, and protects the back from fingerprints. And the TP is a fingerprint magnet without a case.
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Awesome summary Quarlow.
I love my touchpad, and with cm9 i couldnt ask for more, i do leave webos on it because there are certain things like skype video calling that i will boot into webos for, but for the most part i never leave android. You will NOT find a better tablet for that price, battery life will depend on how you tweak it. I run mine overclcocked at around1.7ghz all the time and its super fast and battery life is great, if i want to tighten down the specs i can run this badboy 9+ hours without a break.
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So I'm very seriously considering getting one, hopefully I can get it for around 150 on CL, but I have some questions. I do plan on installing CM9, and will probably never go to web os.
First question, what is your battery life like? I currently have a nook color on cm7, and that thing can go forever without charging. Clearly, it is unrealistic for me to expect to get better or as good life, but I don't want to have to charge it every 4 hours either. So briefly, what is your battery life during use and idle?
Second, I tried reading through the development forums, and as far as I can tell, the only way to boot cm9 is to use moboot (or cyboot?). Am I incorrect in this assumption, or can webOS be removed completely?
Lastly, knowing what you guys know, is there another tablet that you would prefer for the 150-200 price range? I actually would kind of prefer something around 7", and was considering the acer iconia a100, but the locked bootloader, lack of development, and reported crap battery life is turning me off.
Thanks, everyone!
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These Q's have all been asked and answered here before, multiple times. The first 2 Q's have been answered, I'm sure of it, in one thread together even.
With the search function, I found this.
Read here.
Or here.
Or here.
Or here.
Or here.
There are more, but I'm getting tired of doing homework for other people. I haven't even had my coffee this morning yet. You can easily find them though too, use the button marked 'Search'.
To your questions, though...
1. Not anywhere NEAR what you can get from your Nook. CM's an Alpha on the TP. WebOS battery life is sensational, though...even on heavy use with wifi on, in webOS, I can go a week. In webOS overnight, when I forgot to turn wifi off, it sometimes doesn't even drop 1%. In Android, it could drop 5-8% if I'm lucky.
2. Correct. No, you're not incorrect. Why would you want to throw away your free insurance and risk bricking your device? Moboot prevents you (or noobs in general) from toasting their TPs. I can't understand why people ask this question before they get their TPs. It's as if you've assumed that webOS is terrible, but it's not. Like I said, battery life is awesome. I've got CM9 on my TP, too, but webOS isn't useless...if anything, it's much[ /B] more stable than Android on this device, better battery, and everything works. Bear in mind, that on CM there is still stuff that just doesn't work! Camera, H/W acceleration (sometimes, it works in some apps).
This question is like asking a car salesman, before you buy a car, if you can take parts out of the motor without knowing about it. Sorry if I sound like a ****, but this question gets old.
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3. No. But I bet google might...but no seriously, the Kindle Fire maybe. :confused
Thank you for the answer, guys. You've convinced me to get the touchpad. I do apologize for repeating questions you guys are sick of. The search function on mobile really really sucks.
One last question, do you guys think that 200 for a used 32gb is a good deal via craiglist? I read the other thread where several users said a fair price was 160 to 170 for a used 16gb.
Yes, $200 for a 32g is a really good price. I had a second TP which I put cm9 on and sold it for $250 on CL....within 15min of posting of it....
I'd try to haggle down from $200, but to be honest it's not bad at all.
I was lucky enough to get one thru the XDA MP for $130 (a 16 gig) and I am VERY pleasantly surprised with this device. I used to have a gTab, let me tell you, this device is a lot better, and it runs Android SO well, just fix the camera and you're good to go!
Battery life for me is awesome, with my CM9 setup I get a full day with moderate use, and I mean where am I going for a week that I can't charge it? I mean seriously who doesn't charge it at night? Like if I was going to be in a cave for a week maybe I'd get a kindle or something...
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I'd try to haggle down from $200, but to be honest it's not bad at all.
I was lucky enough to get one thru the XDA MP for $130 (a 16 gig) and I am VERY pleasantly surprised with this device. I used to have a gTab, let me tell you, this device is a lot better, and it runs Android SO well, just fix the camera and you're good to go!
Battery life for me is awesome, with my CM9 setup I get a full day with moderate use, and I mean where am I going for a week that I can't charge it? I mean seriously who doesn't charge it at night? Like if I was going to be in a cave for a week maybe I'd get a kindle or something...
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That's a really good deal! I ended up with a 16 gig for 160. Kind of unfortunate, because right after I bought it, another guy offered a 32 gig for 180. Oh well, I'm still very happy with my purchase.
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Im a happy satisfied user of a Touch Pro 2 for almost an year.
I think its still the best device out there, and would buy it again if needed. Anyway, after one year i notice some degradation on the battery. It sure lasts less, and the readings are inaccurate, move up & down sometimes when putting in standby and then resuming. Its not a rom flashing "battery calibration" thing, I stick with most roms for more than a month, so its probably starting to die.
Reading batteryboss interesting article, I found this one is a good option, but I would like to hear some other tested alternatives.
Also some letters on my keyboard are needing more force for the button to work. They still work though so I cant fix it through warranty, but I was thinking of getting an OEM keyboard and replacing it myself, since there might be some dried vodka under the keyboard, although the water detector is still white.
Im not good with tools and this kind of stuff, so only a good quality one, with tools and extensive guide supplied would be good for me. Any ideas?
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Im a happy satisfied user of a Touch Pro 2 for almost an year.
I think its still the best device out there, and would buy it again if needed. Anyway, after one year i notice some degradation on the battery. It sure lasts less, and the readings are inaccurate, move up & down sometimes when putting in standby and then resuming. Its not a rom flashing "battery calibration" thing, I stick with most roms for more than a month, so its probably starting to die.
Reading batteryboss interesting article, I found this one is a good option, but I would like to hear some other tested alternatives.
Also some letters on my keyboard are needing more force for the button to work. They still work though so I cant fix it through warranty, but I was thinking of getting an OEM keyboard and replacing it myself, since there might be some dried vodka under the keyboard, although the water detector is still white.
Im not good with tools and this kind of stuff, so only a good quality one, with tools and extensive guide supplied would be good for me. Any ideas?
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That is a bit cheap for a genuine OEM. It is probably fake, possibly one of the group that has in the range of 1200 - 1300 ma.
I am getting my 2 32Gb touchpads today. I bought them from officedepot.com the night (yes they were only available, or in stock, for one night) they went on sale. That was back on August 20th. They went on backorder and now they are just hours from arriving.
I have two concerns. I have read on precentral's forums that people have been having cracks near the speakers. I do hope that mine don't ever develop this. Also, there have been stories about faulty batteries that don't even last a few hours before needing a charge.
What can you guys tell me about these issues? I am worried that I'll have to call HP and complain, but I hear that HP is very generous with there support options for this tablet. (Maybe they knew that this tablet had faults all along?)
1) chill out
2) wait for when you actually get the touchpads
3a) if they have problems, contact hp support
3b) if they don't, enjoy touchpads
I have not heard any significant complaints about either of these issues.
By "cracks" I believe people were referring to the crackling sound you get if you override the volume limiter (I recommend you override the volume limiter, by the way, but do not turn the speakers up all the way).
Also, any battery could have manufacturing issues. Batteries are such mature technologies, I would say your chances of getting a defective one are the same as you would have buying any consumer electronics with built in batteries. My experience was that I was shocked at how long my battery lasted. I used Pandora all night long, on wifi, not plugged into the wall, and my battery still got me through the day the next day.
WebOS, however, is a steaming pile.
Here's an update. I opened one of my touchpads today and I'm amazed at these things. I have no cracks so far in the casing and the battery seems normal. I am used to the gtablet where it would stay at 100 % for a while then die off; the touchpad's battery meter slowly ticks down 100, 95, 92.. etc..
And by cracks I mean actual cracks in the side near the speakers. There are LOT's of posts about this on the precentral forums. I won't link to them but you can find them if you want to.
My only real complaint is that there is a problem with the camera apps. I installed two of them, freecam being one, and I get errors after I launch them. I think they can't find the camera or something.
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Here's an update. I opened one of my touchpads today and I'm amazed at these things. I have no cracks so far in the casing and the battery seems normal. I am used to the gtablet where it would stay at 100 % for a while then die off; the touchpad's battery meter slowly ticks down 100, 95, 92.. etc..
And by cracks I mean actual cracks in the side near the speakers. There are LOT's of posts about this on the precentral forums. I won't link to them but you can find them if you want to.
My only real complaint is that there is a problem with the camera apps. I installed two of them, freecam being one, and I get errors after I launch them. I think they can't find the camera or something.
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If the app cannot find the camera, then yes, you might actually have a hardware problem.
Edit: Just install FreeCam and it works fine for me D:
The Ringmaster said:
Here's an update. I opened one of my touchpads today and I'm amazed at these things. I have no cracks so far in the casing and the battery seems normal. I am used to the gtablet where it would stay at 100 % for a while then die off; the touchpad's battery meter slowly ticks down 100, 95, 92.. etc..
And by cracks I mean actual cracks in the side near the speakers. There are LOT's of posts about this on the precentral forums. I won't link to them but you can find them if you want to.
My only real complaint is that there is a problem with the camera apps. I installed two of them, freecam being one, and I get errors after I launch them. I think they can't find the camera or something.
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Try updating to the latest os (3.0.2), hopefully that should get rid of those errors?
brepublican said:
Try updating to the latest os (3.0.2), hopefully that should get rid of those errors?
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Good idea, never read if the OP did/did not update yet.
brepublican said:
Try updating to the latest os (3.0.2), hopefully that should get rid of those errors?
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my touchpads came with 3.0.2 preinstalled.
Like many I am waffling between the Hercules and the Amaze. I really like the Amaze. It is a great looking phone and I like Sense 3.0 (looking forward to 3.5). The biggest thing holding me back from pulling the trigger on the Amaze (besides the fact that it isn't actually out yet on Telus) is the seemingly widespread reports of poor battery life.
First question: Is the poor battery life universal or is it only some people who are experiencing it while others are getting good battery life?
Second question-kind of a strange one. I mount my phone in my car with a holder which squeezes the phone from the sides to hold it. My concern is that with the usb on the side it cannot be plugged in while in the holder. Also, I am concerned that the holder will squeeze against the camera buttons and activate the camera. Does anyone have one of these types of phone mounts and does it work ok with this phone?
Thanks
Nobody has on opinon?
I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
Battery life - Use juice defender Ultimate + SetCPU. Get HTC Evo 3D or HTC Sensation 1900mAH battery
Camera - Arguably the best on android
Soft Buttons - Works just fine here. Light up in the dark. Stays off in bright environment
Lag - Absolutely no lag. Dual core processor + 1GB RAM. This is not HTC Hero, It's the Amaze
Galaxy nexus - Hmmmm, a great device. Should you wait? that's up to you mate.
I'll just comment on battery life, mine hasn't been that bad at all, I routinely get through a full day without needing a charge. I use JuiceDefender, but other than that I don't change too much.
Thanks for your replies. As for battery, I'd like to get a full day (charge overnight, not have to recharge til next night) out of my phone without having to jump through hoops to make it possible.
As for Nexus, who knows if Telus will ever get it. The haven't exactly been leading the pack with getting the latest phones.
Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
It does not matter which you get, dual core devices eats battery.
spiz516 said:
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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It's because you don't have a source at HTC. That's what makes you a fan boy. Battery is about the same as long as it runs the same course of use. Really. Then again, that rumor is coming from a unreliable source. You! Let me hear your long Android history. I bet I got you beat hands down.
Sense 3.0 is much more responsive than Touch Wiz 4.0. How do I know this? I spend about 30+ hours in a T-Mobile show room a week. That's weird. Do I randomly through out the day try to load the same webpages on both phones? Yes. Does the HTC load full sites faster than the SGSII consistently? Yes. Have I carefully watched the battery and repeated the exact same tasks on both devices? Yes. Is the battery that much far off? No.
So is the battery life going to be that much better? Is it going to be significant enough to wait and get the Samsung Nexus? Probably not.
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Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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As I stated in my first post, I'm more concerned with the car phone holder pressing against the buttons. I guess nobody else uses one of those. I'll have to bring the holder in with me and try it I guess.
Thanks for everyone's replies.
I have one of those types of car holders and don't have an issue with triggering the camera or charging the phone.
Can't comment on battery life yet, just got it Friday.
Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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You got a lemon. My experience since launch day has been the EXACT opposite of what you just posted.
Battery=good
Camera=awesome (look into your settings)
Soft buttons=awesome. BEtter than my old Vibrant
Lag=none, not even when stock un-rooted
Your "source" means nothing.
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Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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This is the one I have - arkon(com)/megagrip/megagrip-windshield-car-mount.html
Liking that slim grip you posted though. Might replace mine with that.
Apologies ahead of time for the wall of text...
I got my wife the Prime for Christmas. It took her a couple of days to finally open it, as I gave her the choice of going with it or the iPad2. After a couple of days, she seems to like it and is slowly getting the hang of the OS.
I've played with it some. For the most part, it seems smooth. I've managed to make it glitch (lag) a time or two by going in and out of apps and even had the launcher itself FC on me forcing me to reboot.
That was while checking out Alice in Wonderland in MyBooks, which by the way, is not exactly usable. The page animations worked at first, then stopped, then the pages stopped turning altogether and the app FC'd. Not that I care or am surprised. I'm used to included software being half-baked.
Browser experience has been fine using stock and Opera. Dolphin doesn't seem to work as well on the TF201 as it does on my Atrix. Perfect experience? No. I have a $4,500 i7 2920-XM workstation with an SSD and 16gigs of RAM at work and even with it, the browsing experience (or OS experience in general) can lag/glitch from time to time. Nature of the beast.
I can't really comment on battery life. She took it off the charger Monday night at 100%. It hasn't been used steadily for more than 1-2 hours at a time. It's down to about 15% this morning. I can't really say how many hours of use she's gotten out of it but it doesn't seem to drain much overnight, even with Facebook, email and other notifactions. It felt like it was draining pretty quick when in use but I'll have to pay closer attention.
There's minor light bleed around the edges but I had to turn the lights off during boot up to notice. I haven't attempted to watch an entire movie in the dark with it to tell if it's something that will be bothersome. I'll tell you, I went through THREE Sony XBR2 LCDs a few years ago. They suffered from horrible "clouding" (blotchy white areas all over the panel) and light bleed in the corners. That was noticeable under normal use and since I primarily watched movies in pure darkness, it was bothersome. I don't think it's going to be an issue w/ the TF201 unless I'm being nitpicky.
WiFi seems OK. I have yet to compare it to the laptop, but compared to my Atrix (CM7) it's getting the same signal. It fluctuates some, even staying in the same spot, but it's never caused a problem.
I haven't tested GPS. Something tells me it's not going to operate properly though It's low on my list of concerns and I'll use it as an excuse to return the thing to Gamestop in the next 15 days (for exchange only, which is irksome), but otherwise, I'm not too concerned. If it turns out to be hardware, I imagine an RMA will correct it. It would be cool to use the thing for GPS but I own an actual GPS and rarely use it. I would still prefer the device have its features work, of course.
Aside from the launcher FC and subsequent reboot and the occasional glitchiness/lag using the stock launcher and jumping through apps, the only other issue I've noticed happened this AM. I woke up to the room filled with light. The TF201 was on. I didn't wait long to see if it would go back to sleep so maybe it would have. However, when I got up to see what it was doing, I noticed it had rebooted. Hopefully that doesn't happen often and hopefully not while in use!
I'm confident that a lot of these issues can be fixed with firmware updates and hopefully those are pretty quick to release. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the device. Hopefully ICS will only make the experience better. And hopefully it will come soon so all of the speculation, etc can end! I know my Atrix went from all right to pretty frickin' awesome when I put CM7 on it.
I want to take advantage of being able to upgrade my DNA at no cost to me, so I need to do that by the end of this year. The company is switching to employee purchase of phones starting next year. I'm on Verizon. Looking for recommendations from those that have switched, or are contemplating a switch soon. I've primarily been looking at the Turbo, LG G3, and One M8. I've been on HTC devices, so am comfortable/familiar with Sense, and currently running a One based ROM on my DNA. I'm also fond of the wireless charging options, but don't know if a lack of it is enough to rule a particular phone out. Being able to root is a plus. Also leaning to a replaceable battery being a plus as well. Wife recently picked up a Note 4. I'll look at it some more, but that seems almost too big.
Is anyone aware of any new devices due out this month? If not, what is your favorite option today and why?
Thanks!
I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
The Droid Turbo was released not too long ago, and I'm really leaning towards it for my contract upgrade in a couple of weeks. It's still an internal battery unfortunately, but what caught my attention was it having nearly twice the capacity of the DNA. Since I have to charge my DNA halfway through the day, I'd be more than satisfied with the Turbo's battery life. Plus, it has some beefy specs as well. Camera has been reported to have some trouble with delay, but that might be corrected in a software update.
I did a little more reading last night and am starting to lean towards the LG G3. A little smaller than the Note 4 which is a good thing. Replaceable battery, rootable, and with a $10 hack can be changed to Qi wireless charging. I need to go spend some hands on time with it in the store. I've considered the Turbo as well, but with the reported camera issues, and some reporting earpiece volume issues, I just find myself questioning Motorola's product testing if they send these issues out with a hope to fix them later in a software update.
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I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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I don't know about you but toward the end of my 2 years on the DNA I'd have to plug my phone in after about 5-6hrs of moderate use or it was flat dead!
So far with the Note 4 I've actually managed 2 full days on one charge a couple times.. Keeping in mind it's a new phone so I'm playing on it a lot!
Also the fast charge is awesome! I have had it go from 50% to a full charge in about 15 minutes on the charger! (that's only using the included "adaptive fast charger" from Samsung)
The S-pen is cool! I felt like it might be one of those things that lost its "cool factor" once I played with it enough but I keep finding new useful reasons pull it out.. Easily screenshoting and cropping an Instagram post using the Screen Write function for example.
Or more obvious things like quickly jotting down a number or reminder. Which are a lot more useful and easy than I had though they would be.
The chances of getting a fully functional ROOT seem far out if it ever happens.. So that's a bit of a downside. But I can say this is the first phone I've had that I wasn't just dying to root. I honestly have very little reason to root it other than getting Lollipop before VZW and Samsung get it on the update manager.
The phone is big! I will say that.. Probably one of the only things I've had issues with is one handed typing. But I'm getting use to it. It can be very difficult stretching that thumb up to reach things with one hand but I guess that's the price we pay for a large screen. Which is a beautiful display by the way... Both cameras rock too! It's packed with fx, filters and neat camera features that are a lot of fun.
Anyway I hope you are happy with whatever you get! I did talk to a guy over the weekend who has LG G3 and he told me he "hates it" although he couldn't really tell me why.. Haha I haven't played with one but they seem pretty comparable
By the way I thought I'd share that when I got home and started typing this my battery was at 56% (after a full day of pretty heavy use) and in the time it's taken me to type this up (on the phone via tapatalk) while plugged into the fast charger I'm up to 72%
Just thought I'd share an update, in case the op might be still deciding.
I opted for the Note 4. Got it in the mail yesterday, and so far I'm very impressed! It's not as hard to handle as I thought it'd be due to its size. I have yet to give the battery a good test, gotta break it in and actually do a near full run-down, since I had it plugged in most of the day yesterday. But this display is absolutely gorgeous! Don't think I'll be using the s-pen much, but who knows, maybe I'll find more use for it further down the road. I also enjoy using the finger print scanner; I find it quicker to unlock. At times it's frustrating that it doesn't work, but that's because I'm not being precise enough.
Thought I'd share my first impressions. Thanks for the input starscream!
Guess I should've come back to update this. I wound up getting the LG G3 a week ago. Already rooted and installed Skydragon ROM and love it. I also purchased the sticker for the battery door that changes it from NFC only to NFC plus wireless charging. Battery life has been great, and I like the knock knock option for turning on the screen. Transition from my DNA to the G3 has been easy.
Appreciate the suggestions and feedback from everyone!