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Hello all, I'm currently using a Nexus One on T-Mo but am probably going to jump back to Sprint here soon. I had been looking to get the Evo3D, but fear that it's going to be locked down as the Thuderbolt was. I understand you guy were able to gain root on the Thunderbolt recently, but only because you got an engineering something or other, I don't remember exactly. My question here is, what would the chances have been of the phone being rooted the normal brute force way. Would we have been looking at possibly months or more, or was it just a matter of days. I ask cause if the Evo3D is going to be locked down and may take months or more to crack, I may just go with the Nexus S for now.
Well it looks like HTCs phones are going to be locked up tight. Not really sure about the EVO3D but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a locked bootloader etc.
ERIFNOMI said:
Well it looks like HTCs phones are going to be locked up tight. Not really sure about the EVO3D but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a locked bootloader etc.
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Yeah... HTC makes me sad all day for locking their bootloaders, samsung is looking more and more attractive. Sammy's phones don't even put up a fight, sometimes getting root before they're even released to general public
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PaganAng3l said:
Yeah... HTC makes me sad all day for locking their bootloaders, samsung is looking more and more attractive. Sammy's phones don't even put up a fight, sometimes getting root before they're even released to general public
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Cause the TB wasn't rooted before it came out right?
Samsung is looking attractive just because they don't lock their bootloaders? What kind of logic is that? Look at the Galaxy series, those phones were crap, full of lag, horrible GPS, etc.
Yes and our GPS works flawlessly
wakestrong said:
Yes and our GPS works flawlessly
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Mine sure does. A thousand times better than my Facinate did.
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Cause the TB wasn't rooted before it came out right?
Samsung is looking attractive just because they don't lock their bootloaders? What kind of logic is that? Look at the Galaxy series, those phones were crap, full of lag, horrible GPS, etc.
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Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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I was just referring to the first "Galaxy" set that came out. The S 4G, S II, and their releases this year have been stellar. But neither of those are on VZW . I would snatch up the SII in a second if it was on VZW.
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PaganAng3l said:
Ah, where to begin I'm guessing that you misunderstood what I said, or maybe I worded it wrong. In my previous post I was merely making a gross generalization. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love HTC for their build quality and the fact that my G2 (being over a year old) STILL puts up a decent fight against new devices. What I meant was that given a choice I will always support a manufacturer that keeps their devices unlocked (like samsung). Yes, samsung has had some pretty dismal failures in the phone department, but what about the Nexus S 4G? Not to mention the fact that according to a few websites, they seem to be learning from their mistakes and putting out great devices recently (matter of opinion though). I can't really see how my logic is flawed for wanting MY device to have an unlocked bootloader, it's just a standard I'm developing. As far as the thunderbolt getting root before release.... stuff happens unexpectedly and I'm glad the TB got root so soon. Newer HTC devices however are looking at much better lockups on their bootloaders though and I would rather not have to risk a brick to flash my heart out. But these are all my own opinions, you have yours but these are mine.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm not going to buy a phone that's locked up tight. HTC better learn real quick that there are a lot of people like this. I was going to buy a honeycomb tablet if they came out with one because based on their phones I figured it would be pretty open. Now it looks like I'll have to go elsewhere. Maybe since a tablet won't be tied to a carrier they'll be more relaxed. I hope anyway...
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I'm in the same boat. I'm not going to buy a phone that's locked up tight. HTC better learn real quick that there are a lot of people like this. I was going to buy a honeycomb tablet if they came out with one because based on their phones I figured it would be pretty open. Now it looks like I'll have to go elsewhere. Maybe since a tablet won't be tied to a carrier they'll be more relaxed. I hope anyway...
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I hear you. Some company will eventually embrace modders and devs, I just wanted it to be HTC. Oh well, sad day
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It seems we've gone a bit off topic. I have been reading all the comments and have learned that Sammy isn't doing what HTC is starting to do with locking their bootloaders, something I didn't know before this thread, good to know. But the question I presented hasn't really been answered yet. How long, rough gestimation, would it take to crack the bootloader of the new phones HTC is coming out with. Are we talking weeks or months or more. I know this a question that can't be easily answered with a specific answer, but I'm looking more for how likely they are to be cracked in a timely manner. I'm not a hacker, cracker or code breaker so I really don't even know where to begin with trying to answer this question, hence why I put it forth here, on the forum of a phone that was locked and got unlocked hoping a dev could give me some info on weather getting the forthcoming Evo3D is a good idea for someone who want's to root the phone. I am however leaning back towards the Nexus s 4G because of this thread, but since money won't allow that at the moment, I'm exploring my options until the time I can afford a new phone.
The thunderbolt was rooted becuase we reverted to an older leaked rom which allowed us to bypass the whole signed bootloader. (I think) You might want to look into the incredible s which was released several months ago and has yet to me cracked. The security measures taken to lock down the G2 are not the same as the ones used on newer HTC devices. I don't think we'll be seeing any permanent root access HTC in a long time. Months at the very least.
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ddgarcia05 said:
The thunderbolt was rooted becuase we reverted to an older leaked rom which allowed us to bypass the whole signed bootloader. (I think) You might want to look into the incredible s which was released several months ago and has yet to me cracked. The security measures taken to lock down the G2 are not the same as the ones used on newer HTC devices. I don't think we'll be seeing any permanent root access HTC in a long time. Months at the very least.
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Thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for. Sad news indeed. I'm guessing the Nexus S 4G is where I'm headed then, unless a Galaxy S 2 is slated to come out on sprint anytime soon that is. I'd really like to get a root-able, dual core, high resolution, bad ass phone if I'm going to be upgrading from my N1.
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Thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for. Sad news indeed. I'm guessing the Nexus S 4G is where I'm headed then, unless a Galaxy S 2 is slated to come out on sprint anytime soon that is. I'd really like to get a root-able, dual core, high resolution, bad ass phone if I'm going to be upgrading from my N1.
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I've been reading around about this (disappointing) news of HTC's lockdown using signed bootloaders, etc. and from what I have read, it seems like the crackers have indicated they are going to have a helluva time. A few tweets from jcase's twiiter page (whose opinions I personally value, YMMV):
If you want root, don't buy an yet to be rooted phone
[email protected] signed recovery, signed kernel, signed hboot, and write protection. won't buy [email protected] devices like that
HTC now MORE dev unfriendly than Motorola.
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Looks pretty dreary for new HTC phones.
Droid, which has signed bootloader, is still locked, and it's pretty long on the market. It's a matter of years, if not eternity. It's f***ing hard to crack those keys.
What I don't understand is why HTC is doing this. You might think that it's the carriers pressuring them, but if Sammy, Sony Erricson, and Moto are or are soon going to be releasing phone without locked bootloaders, why does HTC feel the need to start now when they haven't in the past?
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What I don't understand is why HTC is doing this. You might think that it's the carriers pressuring them, but if Sammy, Sony Erricson, and Moto are or are soon going to be releasing phone without locked bootloaders, why does HTC feel the need to start now when they haven't in the past?
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It's a pretty simple answer. Money.
mbh87 said:
It's a pretty simple answer. Money.
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How does a locked bootloader equal money?
garfnodie said:
How does a locked bootloader equal money?
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Easy, keeps people using htc products, and makes us pay for tethering. Also makes sure that they know what ruu you're using.... Sucks
Edit: or whatever manufacturer made your device
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Easy, keeps people using htc products
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How
and makes us pay for tethering.
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The carriers have already shown that they can detect unofficial tethering
Also makes sure that they know what ruu you're using
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Why does it matter?
So far, only xboarder is really working on this (with some possible help but not posted), and he does not have a phone. Appears someone reneged on a deal.
When the MT4G and G2X came out, there were a lot that jumped in - what is the issue here?
I don't think you know but the device dropped on 10/17 i'm pretty sure & alot of people are viewing thread's just not as much developers , there are about 2 developers here now .
Developers are having hard time to decide which device should they buy..
they got multiple choices now...
Samsung Galaxy 2
Samsung Nexus 2
Htc Amaze
Plus all the devices are expensive to its gone he hard for them to get all....
Same , i just bought the amaze as a temperary , once the Galaxy Nexus come's out i'm purchasing that . The SGS2 has a terrible screen .
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Developers are having hard time to decide which device should they buy..
they got multiple choices now...
Samsung Galaxy 2
Samsung Nexus 2
Htc Amaze
Plus all the devices are expensive to its gone he hard for them to get all....
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Team Whiskey will be on board soon--the phone is VERY new and we need to give people some time to buy the phones before they can start cooking.
Nevermind that the bootloader / s-on is still an issue...
Revolution said:
Same , i just bought the amaze as a temporary , once the Galaxy Nexus come's out i'm purchasing that . The SGS2 has a terrible screen .
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The nexus will only come out on Verizon for the foreseeable future - and switching carries for the phone of the moment is ------.
As for Samsung, I have only had bad experiences with their software/policies - so not going there anytime soon. LG for same reason is also an issue.
How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
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Binary100100 said:
How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
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that's what you think , it might be coming to sprint & t-mobile & at&t also , it had it on the carrier list then they took the page down
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The nexus will only come out on Verizon for the foreseeable future - and switching carries for the phone of the moment is ------.
As for Samsung, I have only had bad experiences with their software/policies - so not going there anytime soon. LG for same reason is also an issue.
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How about buying all the developers this phone at full price so we can get the roms out? No? Bad idea? Why not? Too much money? Oh... didn't think of that.
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Wasn't necessary for those - why here - you missed the point?
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Wasn't necessary for those - why here - you missed the point?
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I made my point. Simply put there are few developers because there are few developers with the phone. I'm a bit sarcastic at times.
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I made my point. Simply put there are few developers because there are few developers with the phone. I'm a bit sarcastic at times.
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The point was - is there some consensus that this phone is not of interest for some reason? I am in the remorse period and so not want to stick with a no-interest phone.
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The point was - is there some consensus that this phone is not of interest for some reason? I am in the remorse period and so not want to stick with a no-interest phone.
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There sure is. It's expensive as hell! How many other phones are out now and how many are on the horizon? From a developers perspective they have a lot to chose from. Odds are slim that we'll get dozens of developers that are going to get this device immediately after it's release. We might get one or two at first and that's about all we have. For f#@k sake the main developer doesn't even have the damn phone! Give it time or return it. It's up to you. I am sticking with it because I see the potential and I believe that development will open up in the near future.
Examples:
MT3G didn't start getting support for about a week after Cyanogen got it.
MT3G 1.2 didn't start getting support for MONTHS because of driver conflicts and the lack to crack the bootloader (which still hasn't been done).
Vibrant... still doesn't have a stable CM rom release and it's been out for over a year.
These are just devices that I know about for certain. I'm sure there are many more.
So we've had the phone for less than a month and people are getting impatient? Why? Did you think that we'll have root BEFORE the phone was released? Just be patient. It's very unlikely that this will be the only phone that isn't going to have ICS, CM7/CM9, etc.
Anyone would like me around?
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Anyone would like me around?
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If you can help, sure. Do you have the phone yet?
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If you can help, sure. Do you have the phone yet?
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No i don't. And im kind of broke but would love to bring >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235582
To this phone. If anyone could help me get the phone since i have no job.
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No i don't. And im kind of broke but would love to bring >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204912
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235582
To this phone. If anyone could help me get the phone since i have no job.
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Looks nice!
Start cracking on it and you'll have testers before you know it!
Guess I'll join the blind dev party too
Romanbb said:
Guess I'll join the blind dev party too
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i guess we will. Unless the users help me get one of this beautys..
Hi there i recently had an atrix 4g but i was thinking i can sell it and get the razr well does it worth it that much ? i mean what is the big difference between them ?
another question does the atrix has the same display screen as razr i mean is it the same quality and hd like the razr ? and what about the CPU ? thank in advance guys i really appreciate it .
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Hi there i recently had an atrix 4g but i was thinking i can sell it and get the razr well does it worth it that much ? i mean what is the big difference between them ?
another question does the atrix has the same display screen as razr i mean is it the same quality and hd like the razr ? and what about the CPU ? thank in advance guys i really appreciate it .
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You say you want a RAZR but have no idea what the differences are? Sounds like you just want to change phones. Go look up the specs for both and stop being so lazy expecting others to do it for you!
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sigh ..ye im lazy i wont go to GSMArena but instead i open a thread and write down all this crap and wait for an answer ...... /facepalm
i know that they both are dualcore phones but i dont know what is Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H and TI OMAP 4430 which is better and why ? , and the screens are TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors and Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors but what the difference between them thats what im looking for .
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sigh ..ye im lazy i wont go to GSMArena but instead i open a thread and write down all this crap and wait for an answer ...... /facepalm
i know that they both are dualcore phones but i dont know what is Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H and TI OMAP 4430 which is better and why ? , and the screens are TFT capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors and Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors but what the difference between them thats what im looking for .
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Wow
Go to the store, play with phones, buy the one you like..
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..or do you need your hand held on your way to the store too?
omg ..... im gonna buy it online .... u guys sick srsly if u dont like the thread dont answer please ty .
anyway a member here just answered all my questions i thank him very much .
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omg ..... im gonna buy it online .... u guys sick srsly if u dont like the thread dont answer please ty .
anyway a member here just answered all my questions i thank him very much .
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Don't worry, it's just the trolls of the wee hours.
But yeah, with the screen you'd have to find somewhere that has them where you can compare each one side by side.
Other than that, I side with the atrix.
Plasmamuffins said:
Don't worry, it's just the trolls of the wee hours.
But yeah, with the screen you'd have to find somewhere that has them where you can compare each one side by side.
Other than that, I side with the atrix.
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thanks dude i appreciate it
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omg ..... im gonna buy it online .... u guys sick srsly if u dont like the thread dont answer please ty .
anyway a member here just answered all my questions i thank him very much .
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Well frankly, you suck. When you make a thread, maybe put the fact you cannot see them in the stores (no other reason to buy them online). You usually put all the relevant info in the first post and not assume we just know
Razr is a beauty tho. Noticed some lag in the store...could have been because too many have touched/installed crap on it.
i used to open threads at defy section ppl were so nice but omg here every one is calling u suck n stuff coz u maybe couldn't explain much or they think the thread is useless , anyway i'd say i think i didnt offend someone in some way so you dont have to be rude just say somthing useful or pass by the thread and dont replay unless you people have some issue in your reallife and releasing some of it here
I had the RAZR and the only reason why I returned it is because it's too wide for my hands. The RAZR is 68.9mm compared to the Atrix which is 63.5mm. My hand would starting hurting after using the RAZR for only 20 mins. It's a matter of preference and which design you like better. Both are excelent phones. Very fast devices. Keep in mind the RAZR has a non removable battery and the battery life on the RAZR is not that great. Also the RAZR uses a microsim so if you have another phone that uses a regular sim, it's a pain to use the microsim adaptor if you switch devices often.
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I had the RAZR and the only reason why I returned it is because it's too wide for my hands. The RAZR is 68.9mm compared to the Atrix which is 63.5mm. My hand would starting hurting after using the RAZR for only 20 mins. It's a matter of preference and which design you like better. Both are excelent phones. Very fast devices. Keep in mind the RAZR has a non removable battery and the battery life on the RAZR is not that great. Also the RAZR uses a microsim so if you have another phone that uses a regular sim, it's a pain to use the microsim adaptor if you switch devices often.
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Fixed that for ya!
In inches both phones are too big for anyone other than Andre the Giant!
CaelanT said:
Fixed that for ya!
In inches both phones are too big for anyone other than Andre the Giant!
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OMG, I am so sorry. Thanks for fixing that for me. I'm blaming it on my concussion. I was involved in a head on collision and suffered a bad concussion and whiplash.
Monzer_ said:
i used to open threads at defy section ppl were so nice but omg here every one is calling u suck n stuff coz u maybe couldn't explain much or they think the thread is useless , anyway i'd say i think i didnt offend someone in some way so you dont have to be rude just say somthing useful or pass by the thread and dont replay unless you people have some issue in your reallife and releasing some of it here
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I see you, atrix forums are full of douchebags since the 1st day. I used to have an ATrix 4G and sold it to get the Razr. After 3 months of camping with the Razr, i put it in my drawer and bought a new Atrix today.
Main differences are the screen and design and that's mostly about it. Performance wise, Razr is snappier but Atrix isn't slower either. There're just some hiccups with the Atrix at times. Battery life is miles ahead with the Atrix than Razr.
If you're looking for a real upgrade over the Atrix, look for something else or wait for the quadcore madness expected very soon.
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I had the RAZR and the only reason why I returned it is because it's too wide for my hands. The RAZR is 68.9mm compared to the Atrix which is 63.5mm. My hand would starting hurting after using the RAZR for only 20 mins. It's a matter of preference and which design you like better. Both are excelent phones. Very fast devices. Keep in mind the RAZR has a non removable battery and the battery life on the RAZR is not that great. Also the RAZR uses a microsim so if you have another phone that uses a regular sim, it's a pain to use the microsim adaptor if you switch devices often.
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Thanks alot that is useful
Semseddin said:
I see you, atrix forums are full of douchebags since the 1st day. I used to have an ATrix 4G and sold it to get the Razr. After 3 months of camping with the Razr, i put it in my drawer and bought a new Atrix today.
Main differences are the screen and design and that's mostly about it. Performance wise, Razr is snappier but Atrix isn't slower either. There're just some hiccups with the Atrix at times. Battery life is miles ahead with the Atrix than Razr.
If you're looking for a real upgrade over the Atrix, look for something else or wait for the quadcore madness expected very soon.
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Thanks alot dude , i had a problem with my Atrix4g there is a white strips coming on the screen every couple of seconds i guess its factory failure so i sent it back i was so going to Razr but now u kinda changed my mind
No problem, glad if i could help. If they dont charge you for the replacement razr, that is fine. Otherwise dont spend a penny for it
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My friend has a Razr and we frequently use each other's phones. It does seem that, stock, the Razr is much more smooth. It has a better camera and better battery life. Other than that, I would say there isn't much of a difference. I think his scored in the low 2000s on Quadrant? My Atrix scores roughly 4000, but you wouldn't think there was that much of a difference between the phones.
If I were you, I wouldn't bother with the Razr. It's not that much better.
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Thanks alot that is useful
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You're welcome. Good luck with your decision.
Ive had my AT&T SGS2 for a few months now (prolly since about a week after it came out) and i absolutely love the phone but tired of Samsung/ AT&T's lack of urgency to get the ICS update out and i was wondering what you guys would be a better choice for me... Root the SGS2 with ICScrewed ROM or sell it and get the GSM Galaxy Nexus? Im a pretty tech savy so i can handle rooting the phone, ive unlocked and jailbroken plenty of iphones so this should be just as easy.... i love having the latest and greatest software, so the nexus in the point is great for me but i do love my SGS2... what should i do!?
Thanks,
Justin
08BlackWRX said:
Ive had my AT&T SGS2 for a few months now (prolly since about a week after it came out) and i absolutely love the phone but tired of Samsung/ AT&T's lack of urgency to get the ICS update out and i was wondering what you guys would be a better choice for me... Root the SGS2 with ICScrewed ROM or sell it and get the GSM Galaxy Nexus? Im a pretty tech savy so i can handle rooting the phone, ive unlocked and jailbroken plenty of iphones so this should be just as easy.... i love having the latest and greatest software, so the nexus in the point is great for me but i do love my SGS2... what should i do!?
Thanks,
Justin
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I would keep the sgs2 as a backup and get the galaxy nexus. to be honest the nexus s is a freaking powerhouse that blew my mind. i can only imagine the galaxy nexus. BUT i would read a lot about both phones and compare them. other than updates from google what can the galaxy nexus give you that the gs2 cant? besides it wont be long before source is out and then we'll have ics running good.
tough call mate. I've been on the fence about getting the GNexus just for the native ICS..that and the phone is gorgeous. (Decided to get some ink done instead ) But.. there are plenty of ICS themed ROMs, and it really is only a matter of time before we get a real ICS update. I know not today but I imagine by the end of April we will all be wearing our ICS shoes..maybe not, but then again maybe! The only thing that turns me off about the GNexus is the 5MP camera. I'd hate to downgrade from 8 to 5.. that just kinda sucks. Anyway.. good luck with your decision
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I would keep the sgs2 as a backup and get the galaxy nexus. to be honest the nexus s is a freaking powerhouse that blew my mind. i can only imagine the galaxy nexus. BUT i would read a lot about both phones and compare them. other than updates from google what can the galaxy nexus give you that the gs2 cant? besides it wont be long before source is out and then we'll have ics running good.
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Well problem with that is, i was going to sell my SGS2 to fund the nexus....
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tough call mate. I've been on the fence about getting the GNexus just for the native ICS..that and the phone is gorgeous. (Decided to get some ink done instead ) But.. there are plenty of ICS themed ROMs, and it really is only a matter of time before we get a real ICS update. I know not today but I imagine by the end of April we will all be wearing our ICS shoes..maybe not, but then again maybe! The only thing that turns me off about the GNexus is the 5MP camera. I'd hate to downgrade from 8 to 5.. that just kinda sucks. Anyway.. good luck with your decision
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I love the native ICS on the nexus, i know even though we will get the ICS update eventually but wont look anything like what the nexus does im sure, even the ICS on the UK version doesnt look anything like Nexus ICS....Thats the same thing that turns me off from the Nexus too is the camera along with the no sd card slot as well but 16GB is plenty for me though....i do use the camera but not as much to make it a huge deal that its only 5MP....
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Ive had my AT&T SGS2 for a few months now (prolly since about a week after it came out) and i absolutely love the phone but tired of Samsung/ AT&T's lack of urgency to get the ICS update out and i was wondering what you guys would be a better choice for me... Root the SGS2 with ICScrewed ROM or sell it and get the GSM Galaxy Nexus? Im a pretty tech savy so i can handle rooting the phone, ive unlocked and jailbroken plenty of iphones so this should be just as easy.... i love having the latest and greatest software, so the nexus in the point is great for me but i do love my SGS2... what should i do!?
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What lack of urgency? The I9100 was the second or third non-Nexus phone on the planet to get ICS. HTC only beat Samsung on a select few devices by one week. No one else has deployed ICS to a phone yet.
I would keep the sgs2, something better will be out in later and you'll wish you waited to get that. Then again, you can't wait for ICS so why would you wait for another phone?
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Ive had my AT&T SGS2 for a few months now (prolly since about a week after it came out) and i absolutely love the phone but tired of Samsung/ AT&T's lack of urgency to get the ICS update out and i was wondering what you guys would be a better choice for me... Root the SGS2 with ICScrewed ROM or sell it and get the GSM Galaxy Nexus? Im a pretty tech savy so i can handle rooting the phone, ive unlocked and jailbroken plenty of iphones so this should be just as easy.... i love having the latest and greatest software, so the nexus in the point is great for me but i do love my SGS2... what should i do!?
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my suggestion:
1- keep your GS2
2- sit on your couch
3- have a beer
4- be patient.
Unless you're going to buy an unlocked international Nexus, you would be forced to go with Verizon... and I dont suggest that to anyone.
Entropy512 said:
What lack of urgency? The I9100 was the second or third non-Nexus phone on the planet to get ICS. HTC only beat Samsung on a select few devices by one week. No one else has deployed ICS to a phone yet.
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Ok well maybe i used the wrong with urgency, but maybe a better word is lack of care...its more than likely going to be months before we see ICS....
nyydynasty said:
my suggestion:
1- keep your GS2
2- sit on your couch
3- have a beer
4- be patient.
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Can i skip 1 and 2 and just have the beer and i dont have much patience to wait for ics...lol
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Ok well maybe i used the wrong with urgency, but maybe a better word is lack of care...its more than likely going to be months before we see ICS....
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Source should drop no later than a month from this past week... my guess is that it will be posted between next week and the first of April (Im speculating here) because they have always posted up source relatively fast when it comes to their European Galaxy series. All AT&T sources took forever to drop.
so what you guys are saying just keep the SGS2 and root it? whats the most stable ICS rom out right now? or should i wait for a better one to come out?
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so what you guys are saying just keep the SGS2 and root it? whats the most stable ICS rom out right now? or should i wait for a better one to come out?
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ICS won't be fully stable until we get kernel source..
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so what you guys are saying just keep the SGS2 and root it? whats the most stable ICS rom out right now? or should i wait for a better one to come out?
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Your problem is that you aren't satisfied with anything more than a few weeks. Once you get ICS, you'll be wondering when jellybean will come out. It's a vicious and never ending cycle. If you just have to have the latest and greatest, then you'll be spending $$ every 6months to keep up. You could just hang out and enjoy the phone for what it is, maximize it's performance with a good stable ROM and go for plenty of number 3's.
My SGS2 absolutely destroys GNex in benchmarks and performance comparisons. If it's a 'powerhouse' you're after, think twice. If it's Joneses you're after, then other points are moot.
Remember you're posting this question in the i777 forums, so naturally most will advise to keep the GS2. If you asked the same question in the GNexus forums the advise would surely go the other way.
IMHO, we're too close to source drop for our device to leave it now. What are you really gaining with the Gnexus other that pure ICS and more frequent updates from google. Thats what great about XDA, once source drops and people get to work on it, we don't have to sacrifice much, if anything.
You said you feel comfortable rooting, etc. So wait a few more weeks and get ready to flash some sweet $hit!!
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Remember you're posting this question in the i777 forums, so naturally most will advise to keep the GS2. If you asked the same question in the GNexus forums the advise would surely go the other way.
IMHO, we're too close to source drop for our device to leave it now. What are you really gaining with the Gnexus other that pure ICS and more frequent updates from google. Thats what great about XDA, once source drops and people get to work on it, we don't have to sacrifice much, if anything.
You said you feel comfortable rooting, etc. So wait a few more weeks and get ready to flash some sweet $hit!!
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Completely agree
eep2378 said:
Remember you're posting this question in the i777 forums, so naturally most will advise to keep the GS2. If you asked the same question in the GNexus forums the advise would surely go the other way.
IMHO, we're too close to source drop for our device to leave it now. What are you really gaining with the Gnexus other that pure ICS and more frequent updates from google. Thats what great about XDA, once source drops and people get to work on it, we don't have to sacrifice much, if anything.
You said you feel comfortable rooting, etc. So wait a few more weeks and get ready to flash some sweet $hit!!
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Completely agree
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I think this is what im gonna do...just gonna keep my SGS2 and be patient for good ICS ROM to be released or just be patient with AT&T....more than likely root it cause who knows with AT&T....lol
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I think this is what im gonna do...just gonna keep my SGS2 and be patient for good ICS ROM to be released or just be patient with AT&T....more than likely root it cause who knows with AT&T....lol
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Root the sucker and put aosp ics, I tried out cm9 and it was buttery smooth
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Yeah, i agree with the others. Wait it out, ICS will be here in no time. Plus, other than the ICS, I think that the GNex is a worse phone. The Pentile screen messes with my eyes, and the processor is worse too.
Exynos man. Exynos... Mmmm yes exynos. Why would you want to leave a exynos chipset for a TI OMAP? Even though the sgsii is not a "google experience" phone, itself is its only little experience why do you think apple is after its ass. Lol.
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AT&T currently doesn't have a phone that is powerful as the OG Galaxy SII. Sure there is the Note and SkyRocket but they aren't as powerful. I would like to know if this phone is still selling strong. I just bought one. But anyway, this seems to be the best phone AT&T has ever had. Maybe the iPhone 4s comes in second? What do you think?
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What do you think?
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I think you're posting too many threads.
mattdm said:
I think you're posting too many threads.
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Is that not the point of a forum? As long as no duplicated threads are being created than no harm done. Seriously, if you have nothing constructive to add than why post at all?
MattMJB0188 said:
Is that not the point of a forum? As long as no duplicated threads are being created than no harm done. Seriously, if you have nothing constructive to add than why post at all?
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It's a forum, not your blog.
Geez you people are arrogant here. Whatever, a mod can close this thread!!! I'm not gonna start a flame war here.
MattMJB0188 said:
AT&T currently doesn't have a phone that is powerful as the OG Galaxy SII. Sure there is the Note and SkyRocket but they aren't as powerful. I would like to know if this phone is still selling strong. I just bought one. But anyway, this seems to be the best phone AT&T has ever had. Maybe the iPhone 4s comes in second? What do you think?
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Seems that everyone else doesn't want to play nice so I'll add my own opinion. I think that the only phone that will be able to give our phone a decent challenge will be the HTC One X when it comes to AT&T supposedly in April. It looks to be a pretty nice phone, hopefully AT&T doesn't mangle it too bad.
PatriotXT92 said:
Seems that everyone else doesn't want to play nice so I'll add my own opinion. I think that the only phone that will be able to give our phone a decent challenge will be the HTC One X when it comes to AT&T supposedly in April. It looks to be a pretty nice phone, hopefully AT&T doesn't mangle it too bad.
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Thank you for giving a constructive opinion. Its nice to know some people have intelligence.
PatriotXT92 said:
Seems that everyone else doesn't want to play nice so I'll add my own opinion. I think that the only phone that will be able to give our phone a decent challenge will be the HTC One X when it comes to AT&T supposedly in April. It looks to be a pretty nice phone, hopefully AT&T doesn't mangle it too bad.
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Will agree with this one, the only problem some of the other phones that AT&T carries is that they simply bloat them to death and it kind of gives the phones a bad rap when reviewed by alot of the review sites.
Would love to see a review where the majority of the phones are benched/reviewed side by side with stock firmware/rom's vs rooted/custom rom's
I came from a Motorola Atrix to this and it was a definite upgrade. Great phone, and imo atleast for NOW, its the best. I'm sure something will come along soon and trump it, but till then, we're the kings of the mountain.
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The new HTC has some serious potential. I am. Very worried about the non removable battery though, and no SD slot is fail. But the s4 looks to be a real power house. We shall see
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PatriotXT92 said:
Seems that everyone else doesn't want to play nice so I'll add my own opinion. I think that the only phone that will be able to give our phone a decent challenge will be the HTC One X when it comes to AT&T supposedly in April. It looks to be a pretty nice phone, hopefully AT&T doesn't mangle it too bad.
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It does look like a nice phone, and I would have probably gotten it as a 2nd phone if it had a micro sd slot. the S4 chip seems impressive, but I'm sure the next exynos chip will crush it though once it's released
Coming from HTC Dream (G1), it is a step up for me for SGSII. But of couse, AT&T screwed it up with how they managed this device (not reconized it as 4G..DUH!!!). HTC One X seem to be the up to the task to match up to SGSII. But then we'll have to see.
Well coming from an iPhone and inspire this way way way better then any phone I have ever seen att carry.like mention before the HTC one XL may be the only phone to challenge this one(maybe the rumored galaxy s3 ) but not being able to remove the battery is one of its downfalls .
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Yeah the One X looks like the first HTC phone in a while that could hold up against the Samsung.
The GS III could be earlier this year than last year. If the att variant is as close to the international as the i777 was to the i9100, then the One X will be back-seated quick.
But, the Captivate is still pretty strong after two years. Heck, they had ICS before we did. I would guess the i777 will continue to be popular for about the same timeframe, 2 years.
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"Powerful" is in the eye of the beholder. I love my GSII, it is way snappy, but if I am in the bay area (which I am pretty regularly) I cant take advantage of the LTE there. All depends on what you value.
Although... I was getting 11 down on our faux g while I was there
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I cant take advantage of the LTE there.
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I thought SGSII does not do LTE... What did you meant by that?
BeenAndroidized said:
I thought SGSII does not do LTE... What did you meant by that?
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Just what he says, with the SGS2 he can't take advantage of the LTE network. You need a Skyrocket for that.
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Just what he says, with the SGS2 he can't take advantage of the LTE network. You need a Skyrocket for that.
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Oops, missed read. sorry I thought he said he can. LOL!
graffixnyc said:
It does look like a nice phone, and I would have probably gotten it as a 2nd phone if it had a micro sd slot. the S4 chip seems impressive, but I'm sure the next exynos chip will crush it though once it's released
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The SD card slot isn't too big of a deal to me because of the fact that the phone should be coming with a 32GB internal storage which is what my S2 has with the SD card added. The non removable battery could be more of a problem if it has the typical HTC battery life. If I didn't have my S2 right now and was ready for an upgrade I'd definitely give the One X a chance.
Just read the specs on HTC One, unless I missed something, it looks like HTC made the display .2" bigger than the GSGII Skyrocket just so they don't look like they are behind Samsung. Ya it is a nice phone but not nice enough to leave SGSII.