[Q] Difference between root and cf-root? And revert to stock versions? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
(1) I am confused between root and cf-root? What's the difference between them?
I'm talking about these threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056334
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
(2)CF-root - "THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel.". Will rooting (either root or cf-root) change my kernel version?
(3)Let say I installed/ flashed/ root/ cf-root (i don't know which is the right word) my SGS 2 phone, can I get back to my stock version including kernel version for warranty purpose? Using these steps to revert to stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278), right?

As far as I gleamed, you have to have the correct version of the rom installed before you root. So if you want to root with CF-Roots KE7 kernel package, you have to first install a KE7 Rom.
To get back to your stock version you have to get a hold of the correct carrier branded rom and flash it with Odin. Take a look here.
By the way, you can find out wich version you currently have by entering *#1234# in your dialer.
Anybody more knowledgable feel free to correct me.

brook51 said:
Hello,
(1) I am confused between root and cf-root? What's the difference between them?
I'm talking about these threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056334
EXTINCT METHOD Chain Fires original ROOT no longer used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Current method of rooting Chainfires latest
(2)CF-root - "THIS IS NOT A ROM - it is only a modified kernel.". Will rooting (either root or cf-root) change my kernel version?
Yes if you have kernel KE2 and flash CF Root KE7 its now KE7
(3)Let say I installed/ flashed/ root/ cf-root (i don't know which is the right word) my SGS 2 phone
Its root all the same do you need root ???
, can I get back to my stock version including kernel version for warranty purpose?
If you have a copy of your original branded firmware flashing that back and removing apps that require root and resetting custom binary rom counter to 0 should be enough . Or flash a stock Samsung firmware
Using these steps to revert to stock (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278), right?
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Yes that's the basics .
jje

I rooted my SGSII using CF-Root 3.7, re-flash stock do zImage in CWM etc to remove the warning
Now there is CF-Root 3.8 available. Is it important to update? Do I need to repeat the same cycle:
- ODIN flash cf-root
- CWM kernel flash of .zip file
- ODIN flash stock kernel
- CWM kernel flash of zImage
TIA

rosely1971 said:
I rooted my SGSII using CF-Root 3.7, re-flash stock do zImage in CWM etc to remove the warning
Now there is CF-Root 3.8 available. Is it important to update? Do I need to repeat the same cycle:
- ODIN flash cf-root
- CWM kernel flash of .zip file
- ODIN flash stock kernel
- CWM kernel flash of zImage
No need to update and yes the same method .
jje
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flaake said:
To get back to your stock version you have to get a hold of the correct carrier branded rom and flash it with Odin. Take a look here.
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I do not think that all stock kernels and their CSC and MODEMs are available or even noted. I flashed a custom ROM and would like to get back to the unbranded Netherlands version (likely the same KE2 for Benelux) but its unlisted even on samfirmware.com
I should think that flashing any stock version for your region (EU/USA/ROW) would leave the warranty intact in so far as a Samsung repair centre won't care/tell the difference.

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Galaxy s2 kf3 firmware

Hi guys,
i have updated my firmware through kies from ke8 to kf3
(detail is pda :kf3,phone :ke4, csc : kf3(INU)),kindly let me know what firmware and kernel should i root and flash phone with so that it works properly.
Thanks,please reply any suggestion would suffice.
You need to flash with Chainfire's KF3 kernel to root. You already flashed the firmware, so you just need to flash the rooted kernel.
Here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=640677&d=1309348522
If you already don't have Odin, then Download from here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=611625&d=1306787405
To get rid of Yellow triangle which is gonna appear after rooting you need to flash back the Stock/Samsung signed kernel of KF3, which you will download from here,
http://www.multiupload.com/27Q9LQEB94
Pass: [email protected]
For more details on rooting process must read CF's guide. This one,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Regards.
ithehappy said:
You need to flash with Chainfire's KF3 kernel to root. You already flashed the firmware, so you just need to flash the rooted kernel.
Here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=640677&d=1309348522
If you already don't have Odin, then Download from here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=611625&d=1306787405
To get rid of Yellow triangle which is gonna appear after rooting you need to flash back the Stock/Samsung signed kernel of KF3, which you will download from here,
http://www.multiupload.com/27Q9LQEB94
Pass: [email protected]
For more details on rooting process must read CF's guide. This one,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Regards.
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that was fast,thanks !
also can anybody tell me if in future i need to update via kies is it possible after rooting by above method to update firmware and root again ?
xyz_1232005 said:
also can anybody tell me if in future i need to update via kies is it possible after rooting by above method to update firmware and root again ?
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Yes, you can update via Kies and root again. Kies wont detect if your phone is rooted or not as long as you are on Stock firmware.

[Q] Backup kernel?

Hi everyone.
I was wondering if there's a way to backup my kernel. (before root)
I want to change the rom I'm using, but due to legal issues I need to be able to revert back to the rom that's installed on my phone now...
I know I can backup through recovery but I need to root my phone first and I cant find this specific kernel so I can go back to it if needed.
So is there a way I can backup my kernel?
Or if anyone knows where I can get this kernel:
I9100JHKF2 ?
Thanks!
You need to download the stock kernel used by your rom, then reflash it when you need a complete stock firmware. I think there's no way o backup kernel without rooting your phone. Flashing with odin increase your binary flash count , flashing inside cwm doesn't not
Why would you want to backup a kernel ???
Firmware yes kernel no.
kernel is only a small part of the firmware and of itself is no use to return a phone to stock .
jje
JJEgan said:
Why would you want to backup a kernel ???
Firmware yes kernel no.
kernel is only a small part of the firmware and of itself is no use to return a phone to stock .
jje
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So is there a way to backup the firmware?
I can't find this version of firmware anywhere...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Stock KF2 firmware .
Stock KF2 kernel as well .
jje

I want to root my S2

Hi
Now I am absolutely stock as You can see I update my S2 via Kies and now I have KI3. I decide to root my device in oder to get all cool fetures as CWM and so on. But I am a lit bit disapointed with my battery life so I though that I can try to flash KI8.
1. I think I will use this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 but I don't understand diffrence between Frankenstein Firmwares and officials. Maybe someone could explain?
2. As I mention before I updated via Kies to KI3 so I have new bootloader or not which you can't reset with Jig or not? If I have it can I still flash this one:
Firmware info
PDA:XWKI8
PHONE: XXKI4
Date: 28/09/2011
Android 2.3.5
Why Phone and PDA are diffrent?
NEE (Nordic Region): http://www.multiupload.com/XPF31ATMO4
XWKI8 Stock Kernel: http://www.multiupload.com/4O6DVGUGSU
Password: [email protected]
And if I flash it I will have my native language on the phone (Lithuanian) or not?
3. Now then I reset my my phone as it was made it changes language to Polish and it's polish on the first boot how to make that Lithuanish would be the default language despite the wipe?
4. Imagine that I flash new firmeware KI8, and now I have to root. I think I will use this guide to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
And what is diffrent between ChainFire's or Odia's insecure kernels. Where get those?
For now that is all
Nepyk said:
Hi
Now I am absolutely stock as You can see I update my S2 via Kies and now I have KI3. I decide to root my device in oder to get all cool fetures as CWM and so on. But I am a lit bit disapointed with my battery life so I though that I can try to flash KI8.
1. I think I will use this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 but I don't understand diffrence between Frankenstein Firmwares and officials. Maybe someone could explain?
The posts explains .
These packages below are not official firmware packages, they are Frankenstein package created due to demand for Firmware with different CSC and modems and also leaked firmware packages. KIES will not recognise the firmware so you won't be able to update to new firmware using KIES unless you flash back to a firmware meant for your device first. Otherwise there will always be Odin to use for updates
2. As I mention before I updated via Kies to KI3 so I have new bootloader or not which you can't reset with Jig or not?
New bootloader cannot be reset custom rom counter .
If I have it can I still flash this one:
Firmware info
PDA:XWKI8
PHONE: XXKI4
Date: 28/09/2011
Android 2.3.5
Why Phone and PDA are diffrent?
Phone = modem modems are not updated as often
4. Imagine that I flash new firmeware KI8, and now I have to root. I think I will use this guide to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
And what is diffrent between ChainFire's or Odia's insecure kernels. Where get those?
For now that is all
Search will find them .
Root + CWM .
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Root faqs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246131
Root faqs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246131
jje
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1. I am new one so this post isn't clear for me. Maybe you could explain.
2. so I have new bootloader. If I flash KI8 fireware I will have the bootloader which I can reset with jig?
3. So for rooting I should use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399 this tutorial instead of my first one and with CF KI8 I will get CWM and SU already?
Nepyk said:
1. I am new one so this post isn't clear for me. Maybe you could explain.
2. so I have new bootloader. If I flash KI8 fireware I will have the bootloader which I can reset with jig?
NO JIG DOES NOT RESET you require a firmware with old bootloader .
3. So for rooting I should use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399 this tutorial instead of my first one and with CF KI8 I will get CWM and SU already?
If you read the post thats what it says .
jje
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So how to change my new bootloader?
Nepyk said:
So how to change my new bootloader?
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Flash old firmware .
OR Custom Rom with old bootloader
Or stock Frankenstein rom with old bootloader .
Again same link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Please read its in very big red letters .
jje
But there are writen All packages below this point have the old bootloader so you can safely reset the binary counter with a Jig so I can use KI8 with old bootloader?
Nepyk said:
But there are writen All packages below this point have the old bootloader so you can safely reset the binary counter with a Jig so I can use KI8 with old bootloader?
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from those packages only .
jje
Thanks, now I have KI8 ant root

[Q] Upgrading SGS2. Need goog adwice

Lords of Firmware and Gods of Root, need you attention!
Hi. I checked xda forum and cannot find full answer on my question.
Please, help me, if you can.
I recently bought sgs2 for me and my wife.
My wife use stock firmware and updating by OTA.
I have stock firmware with CF rooted kernel
When we bought SGS2 (From Poland) with latest GB stock firware.
We together updated by OTA to stock ([email protected] #3 IML74K.XXLPQ) firmware.
When I root my SGS2 with CF-Root-SGS2_XX_XEO_LPQ-PROPER-v5.4-CWM5 using Odin.
In 6 april we were reminded of a new version by OTA and I updated wife's phone. Now her firmware version is [email protected] #3 IML74K.XXLPS.
I want update my phone too, I read the posts about CWM and looked at thread "[02.04.2012][CF-Root 5.4] K/EFGHIJKLP*, LA2/4, LP1/2/6/B/H/J/Q/7/3/S - su+bb+CWM4/5" and understand how to do:
1)Download rooted kernel with name like CF-Root-SGS2_XX_XEO_LPS, but I cannot find this kernel - only CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_LPS-v5.4-CWM5.zip available.
Can I use this kernel or wait for CF-Root-SGS2_XX_XEO_LPS.
What difference in kernel between OXA (Maybe UK??) and XEO (Poland)?
2) Download stock kernel from samsung I9100XXLPS_I9100OXALPS_I9100XXLPS_HOME. I've done it.
3) Place to external_sd/firmware rooted kernel and stock firmware.
4) Using CWM App flash CF kernel, when flash stock firmware without kernal and wipe dalvic cache
Am I right? I not loose my apps and setting?
if I update my phone (with CF-Root-SGS2_XX_XEO_LPQ-PROPER-v5.4-CWM5) by OTA I loose root and CWM Recovery, but later can install CF root using Odin?
YndTruD said:
Lords of Firmware and Gods of Root, need you attention!
Hi. I checked xda forum and cannot find full answer on my question.
Please, help me, if you can.
I recently bought sgs2 for me and my wife.
My wife use stock firmware and updating by OTA.
I have stock firmware with CF rooted kernel
When we bought SGS2 (From Poland) with latest GB stock firware.
We together updated by OTA to stock ([email protected] #3 IML74K.XXLPQ) firmware.
When I root my SGS2 with CF-Root-SGS2_XX_XEO_LPQ-PROPER-v5.4-CWM5 using Odin.
In 6 april we were reminded of a new version by OTA and I updated wife's phone. Now her firmware version is [email protected] #3 IML74K.XXLPS.
I want update my phone too, I read the posts about CWM and looked at thread "[02.04.2012][CF-Root 5.4] K/EFGHIJKLP*, LA2/4, LP1/2/6/B/H/J/Q/7/3/S - su+bb+CWM4/5" and understand how to do:
1)Download rooted kernel with name like CF-Root-SGS2_XX_XEO_LPS, but I cannot find this kernel - only CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_LPS-v5.4-CWM5.zip available.
Can I use this kernel or wait for CF-Root-SGS2_XX_XEO_LPS.
What difference in kernel between OXA (Maybe UK??) and XEO (Poland)?
2) Download stock kernel from samsung I9100XXLPS_I9100OXALPS_I9100XXLPS_HOME. I've done it.
3) Place to external_sd/firmware rooted kernel and stock firmware.
4) Using CWM App flash CF kernel, when flash stock firmware without kernal and wipe dalvic cache
Am I right? I not loose my apps and setting?
if I update my phone (with CF-Root-SGS2_XX_XEO_LPQ-PROPER-v5.4-CWM5) by OTA I loose root and CWM Recovery, but later can install CF root using Odin?
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If you are already rooted and already downloaded stock firmware, why not try mobile odin to update. that way you won't loose root

[Q][SGIII] Is it safe to update with OTA after root+custom cernel?

Hello, OTA just downloaded new update on my phone, but I am not sure if I can safely apply it... I run through whole therad and I can see, somebody was succesfull with OTA update somebody not... I have stock rom IMM76D.I9300XXALF2 with custom franco.Kernel r10 and rooted with CF-Root 6.4 + SuperSU + CWM5.5 + CWMManager. So question is, if I can use OTA update, or should I firstly remove custom kernel back to stock kernel and use OTA even if rooted with CF-R 6.4 or use OTA even with custom kernel and CF-R 6.4 or dont use OTA at all Thanx very much for help
If you do not have stock recovery the update will fail.
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joshnichols189 said:
If you do not have stock recovery the update will fail.
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If I understand it right - because I used CF-Root 6.4 with CWM so now I have CWM Recovery not the stock one, so I downloaded my current whole stock ROM, unpacked it and there is recovery.img <- and this is stock recovery? So now should I flash it back to phone to get stock recovery back?

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