I've heard that on some batches theres a screen issue a little yellow light. Any more defects? Also this can be helpful to others. Thank you. +rep
Read through the threads, youll find theres not that many actual users with the problem vs multiple post from same person.
One of the bad things is that owners of the sgs2 cant seem to find the search function on this site, neither can they read the threads that have been posted before their own 'totally unique' thread.
Its probably best you just read a couple of threads and decide for yourself. just remember that people only tend to post to complain, people almost never post to say they happy with a device.
+1 OMG theres millions registered users here, its all been posted/asked before.
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One of the bad things is that owners of the sgs2 cant seem to find the search function on this site, neither can they read the threads that have been posted before their own 'totally unique' thread.
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I've heard that on some batches theres a screen issue a little yellow light. Any more defects? Also this can be helpful to others. Thank you. +rep
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i heard about wifi ,heat ,gps and pink dots on pictures when using camera
stoney73 said:
One of the bad things is that owners of the sgs2 cant seem to find the search function on this site, neither can they read the threads that have been posted before their own 'totally unique' thread.
Its probably best you just read a couple of threads and decide for yourself. just remember that people only tend to post to complain, people almost never post to say they happy with a device.
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+178 fully agree!
The headphones output is awful. I have to play music at full volume with all the EQ bands maximised in the equaliser and I still can't get a decent level to combat street noise.
djbanging said:
The headphones output is awful. I have to play music at full volume with all the EQ bands maximised in the equaliser and I still can't get a decent level to combat street noise.
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Sounds like either you haven't got the headphones all the way in or that your headphones are naff. I can't maximise the sound without hurting my ears!
I've tried several different pairs of headphones and they are definitely all the way in. I've spent most of my spare time this week trying to sort it out.
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The headphones output is awful. I have to play music at full volume with all the EQ bands maximised in the equaliser and I still can't get a decent level to combat street noise.
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Christ are you deaf?
If I put the volume higher than half way with headphones, it hurts the crap outta my ears.
No. This wasn't the case with my iPhone 3G and I've had other friends listen as well.
What are all the bad things about the Galaxy S 2?
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Here's one, there's no control over who can buy it.
Instead of just accepting that, based on their needs, the display, battery life, camera, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, audio, GPS, and/or 2/3/4G signal might not meet their expectations, rather than return the phone, people start a trillion threads seeking affirmation of their issue. Then, the rest of the minority having the same issue(s) pile on to all basically say the same thing. After exhausting each other and running a thread up to 20+ pages someone will start another just to repeat all that was said again. And you know what, it doesn't matter that the SGS1, DHD, iP4, or N8 were better at certain things than the SGS2. The phone is what it is and may not ever be as good as either it should be or you want it to be. Take what Samsung has on offer and accept that or return the phone and get something that serves your needs better.
Either my particular device is a rock star in the top 1% of all those made or my expectations are lower or perhaps more reasonable than others. This is after all a phone, not a device for managing nuclear weapons. Regardless, if the phone didn't meet my needs sufficiently I wouldn't create 1,000 posts and martyr myself, I'd return it and get something else that better served me. I had a G2X which was as horrible a device as ever produced. When I read on that forum that all I was experiencing was common I lost quite a bit of money to dump it and get an SGS2. Hint.
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Here's one, there's no control over who can buy it.
Instead of just accepting that, based on their needs, the display, battery life, camera, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, audio, GPS, and/or 2/3/4G signal might not meet their expectations, rather than return the phone, people start a trillion threads seeking affirmation of their issue. Then, the rest of the minority having the same issue(s) pile on to all basically say the same thing. After exhausting each other and running a thread up to 20+ pages someone will start another just to repeat all that was said again. And you know what, it doesn't matter that the SGS1, DHD, iP4, or N8 were better at certain things than the SGS2. The phone is what it is and may not ever be as good as either it should be or you want it to be. Take what Samsung has on offer and accept that or return the phone and get something that serves your needs better.
Either my particular device is a rock star in the top 1% of all those made or my expectations are lower or perhaps more reasonable than others. This is after all a phone, not a device for managing nuclear weapons. Regardless, if the phone didn't meet my needs sufficiently I wouldn't create 1,000 posts and martyr myself, I'd return it and get something else that better served me. I had a G2X which was as horrible a device as ever produced. When I read on that forum that all I was experiencing was common I lost quite a bit of money to dump it and get an SGS2. Hint.
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Nicely put
Here's one, there's no control over who can buy it.
Seems like one of the main qualifications is lack of search button willing to try anything without reading the instructions .Must have is to post the same topic as others post hijack threads etc .
The idiot quota is much higher than on SGS 1 and approaching Nokia levels .,
Most of us where in that category but actually took time to read the FAQS work our way through the posts to gain an understanding before attempting anything .
Now its read the first sentence and flash .
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I've tried several different pairs of headphones and they are definitely all the way in. I've spent most of my spare time this week trying to sort it out.
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the one you have tried, are they all iphone headphones?
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OP, from my experience (i was one of the later people to get the phone)
I do not have heat issues.
I do not have battery issues.
My sound is amazing and very loud.
My earphones sound AWESOME, and EVEN better with 5.1 surround sound turned on (built in on music player)
My GPS locates in 1-3 seconds - it once took 5 seconds, with or without wifi.
My device does not creek.
My screen has no banding issues.
My screen has no yellow tinge/yellow spot.
My camera has no red dot/spot.
IF YOU WANT THIS PHONE. Get it, and the chances are you will have a similar device to mine, a perfectly working one.
Remember the forums are a concentration of all the phones. If you put these problem into the proportion of devices that have been made and sold (god knows how many at least 3 million plus), a absolutely minute proportion have these issues.
I had the exact same fears as you, so, go for it and you won't regret it!
Same as Daivik
Well , except on the heat, but i blame for now the apps I use for this overheating :
FPse and snes9x EX
for me it's for now an application problem (poorly or not optimized yet for dual cores ) so I cope with the heat while waiting for updates.
Totally satisfied with the SGS2 as it is
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OP, from my experience (i was one of the later people to get the phone)
I do not have heat issues.
I do not have battery issues.
My sound is amazing and very loud.
My earphones sound AWESOME, and EVEN better with 5.1 surround sound turned on (built in on music player)
My GPS locates in 1-3 seconds - it once took 5 seconds, with or without wifi.
My device does not creek.
My screen has no banding issues.
My screen has no yellow tinge/yellow spot.
My camera has no red dot/spot.
IF YOU WANT THIS PHONE. Get it, and the chances are you will have a similar device to mine, a perfectly working one.
Remember the forums are a concentration of all the phones. If you put these problem into the proportion of devices that have been made and sold (god knows how many at least 3 million plus), a absolutely minute proportion have these issues.
I had the exact same fears as you, so, go for it and you won't regret it!
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cheers been waiting for some positivity
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cheers been waiting for some positivity
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Glad, but it's the truth, from me. Not just saying it to make you get the phone. The phone truly is epic and Samsung, have done a good job, hardware-wise, software-wise and design-wise.
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the one you have tried, are they all iphone headphones?
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No, of course not. It's the same on my Numark cans and even on my M-audio studio monitors. I can't believe that people are saying that this phone is loud - there must be something wrong with my handset.
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Looking to buy myself an HTC Amaze but want to know if there are any issues. Any GPS/Wifi/signal issues? Anything that is a common issues? Perhaps different screens similar to the Sensation, etc.?
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Looking to buy myself an HTC Amaze but want to know if there are any issues. Any GPS/Wifi/signal issues? Anything that is a common issues? Perhaps different screens similar to the Sensation, etc.?
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Here are some threads you can check out.
This one is really good and very similar to what you're asking already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1379081
Here's another one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1384779
And here is one more to read if you got spare time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1381677
This is the longest thread but is basically Amaze compared to SGII:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1301088
Hope that helps.
nguyendqh said:
Here are some threads you can check out.
This one is really good and very similar to what you're asking already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1379081
Here's another one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1384779
And here is one more to read if you got spare time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1381677
This is the longest thread but is basically Amaze compared to SGII:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1301088
Hope that helps.
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All of those urls you posted are errors.
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All of those urls you posted are errors.
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I'm gonna fix that now. Sorry about that.
*Try now.
**Seriously. I don't know what's wrong.
***How about this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388402
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I'm gonna fix that now. Sorry about that.
*Try now.
**Seriously. I don't know what's wrong.
***How about this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388402
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That one works. It appears that the ones you posted above were being saved as
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They were being saved with the ellipsis between show and php
PearlJammzz said:
Looking to buy myself an HTC Amaze but want to know if there are any issues. Any GPS/Wifi/signal issues? Anything that is a common issues? Perhaps different screens similar to the Sensation, etc.?
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I was asking this maybe a week ago and started the first thread that nguyendqh posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1379081 and I feel it has quite a bit of objectivity and honesty. They did a good job of covering points in very few posts. I've been doing a fair amount of searching in these forums and I haven't read any feedback that makes me think it has any obvious issues.
One person in that thread(here is the post) said something about signal or sound quality issues, but a few replies after that made it sound like it could be a defect. Truly, this is one of the few negative comments I have found about the amaze at all.
Everything I have read makes me think that the sensation is a solid phone, and there seems to be quite a few people who upgraded to the Amaze, and I haven't seen any complaints besides there not being a ton of roms- but even that will change as the amaze is out for a while.
only problem i see so far iv had it for 2 days was the screen bleed due to the captive buttons..that and the battery suck just as much as the sensation...
I have had the phone since the week after release, and it's been a joy to use. Being a crack flasher, they guys over in the Dev section have kept me pretty busy, so I have no complaints there. I can only imagine how good it will get when we've got a faux kernel to OC the inevitable ICS builds. We've got some very good devs on this phone.
The phone is very solid, I haven't had any issues with reception or anything, and am very happy with performance. I haven't had much issues with the battery, it's about what I expected... not awesome, but not bad either.
Also, it's nice we've been able to completely circumvent the S-ON conundrum until we find the fix for that.
I don't know about the rest of you, but the battery life on my Amaze is actually quite decent. I have the Sensation getting ready to return to T-Mobile. The battery on that phone is horrific.
Still no S-OFF. It's an issue for me, anyways.
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No, it was not a defect at all. Again you spreading your lies.
HTC phones have a bad rep about their sound quality, from way back in s620 times to now. Other review channels on YouTube say the same.
Again, I am gonna keep reporting your posts until you stop with your nonsense.
You are so wrong, that I ended up deciding to keep the phone and give it a second try.
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He is just trying to help someone out that had a question. It doesn't seem like he is flaming you or attacking you personally.
Why are you so angry?
I just saw another post where you were looking for help about internet on the Amaze and keeping one SIM card.
You expect members on here to help you but then turn around and bash him for trying to help another member?
And are you seriously reporting his posts? For what reason?
Opinions are just that, aren't they?
This just doesn't make any sense to me and I'm trying to understand why you're so worked up.
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This guy is following me around now I think, lol. I appreciate the fact someone else sees it like I do, I mean about a week ago I asked the same question as the OP, and I got some really great answers.. today I bought the phone and I'm now just waiting for it to come in the mail. I wasn't going to leave out the one main complaint I've seen, but I decided that other people's opinions about the phone's quality were enough to make me think that it is a non-issue.
To totti- I'm sure you're a sweet guy, but I just don't roll like that. Feel free to keep reporting my posts, I'm sure all you're doing is convincing some poor mod that has better things to do that you have a man-crush and maybe some stalker problems
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do agree... why is he so angry???? anyways you made a great choice. The amaze is a great phone. If you guys are having battery problems I would root your phone. Its a huge difference !!!!
lol alright guys, no more arguing lets not be like other forums. but seriously, I don't experience what totti said about the amaze's "speaker"... not the back speaker the ear speaker.
"The worst aspect is the earpiece. It is UTTER TRASH. It literally silences itself when you talk, and will "turn on" when the other party speaks, however, when that occurs, it will "eat" the first few milliseconds and you will get a broken up phrase (from the other party), 99.9% of the times. Seems to be an HTC issue btw."
I know what he meant by htc having sound problems, like the clarity gets distorted in other devices, but the amaze's speakers both front and back are really good imo.
anyways there's too many threads like this.
I listed this too many times
Problems:
1. battery life isn't the greatest (YET... come on new kernel!)
2. stupid softkey bleeds
3. lack of release of full sources!
4. battery gets warm when tethering, maybe other things too, but that's it for me
everything other aspects is either equal or better than other phones.
Just got WiFi calling which was my major gripe. Works well and other than s off which isn't a big deal to me it works great.
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Just stop saying falsities about my device, when its something you understood wrong. Is it that hard to understand? Geez...
Not even gonna bother replying to the trolling btw.
I am sure we can all behave and act in an adult manner, even Silentbtdeadly.
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I honestly don't see any issues with what Silentbtdeadly has posted. I have received two notifications about you reporting him but I really have no clue what for. Everyone has a different opinion and is welcome to post it in the forum provided they follow the forum rules. He is not directing his objections toward you in any way however I see a post like this and makes me wonder who has a grudge against who and causing disruptions. My advice, add him to your ignore list. Problem solved. Stop wasting space in mine and Whiskey's forum with stuff like this. Please. Stay on topic.
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I know I didn't quote his post to cause trouble, posts like Teo032's above are a valuable response to the issue Totti mentioned for people new to the phone or the OP.
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I agree.
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You guys are not audio people meaning folks who record music or listen to the audio track in videos, that the phone records itself.
The big problem is simply that the 'fidelity' (sound quality for recording operation) is terrible on this phone. On the GS2, it's mono, but the sound quality is very good.
If you're listening to some music or a video then it's fine. But if you want to use the Amaze4G or other HTC phones to record something, the sound will be very poor. So whether that matters depends on the user. On YouTube there is a video made by a new Galaxy Note, That has stereo (like the Amaze4G recordings) but sounds fine, and provides a stereo comparison.
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Still no S-OFF. It's an issue for me, anyways.
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How do you like the G2x?
marstodd said:
You guys are not audio people meaning folks who record music or listen to the audio track in videos, that the phone records itself.
The big problem is simply that the 'fidelity' (sound quality for recording operation) is terrible on this phone. On the GS2, it's mono, but the sound quality is very good.
If you're listening to some music or a video then it's fine. But if you want to use the Amaze4G or other HTC phones to record something, the sound will be very poor. So whether that matters depends on the user. On YouTube there is a video made by a new Galaxy Note, That has stereo (like the Amaze4G recordings) but sounds fine, and provides a stereo comparison.
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Well, I would think that this is the sort of thing that the OP is looking for. Personally, I don't use the video function too much, but it is nice to have if something I really wanted to catch it is nice to have in my pocket. I can expect some good quality pictures from a phone these days, but I wouldn't expect the phone to be the way I made video blogs(if i did that sort of thing).
I am curious, do you have a few samples you could put side by side? A big factor would be that they were recorded in similar environments.. and I wonder if the phone could be set to record in mono audio, and if so if that would create a better quality?
I actually have a question. When recording video, the sound isn't super bad, but with so many mics for noise cancellation and all, the sound can be a bit off. You think that with ICS this can be adjusted or is it something htc has to fix?
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Here's a "useless" post from me: I regrettably returned my Prime today to OD. I was having questionable wifi performance on my Prime. I'm a PC/Network tech that has everything I own tweaked to perfection, including my router. It's the RT-N16 (Asus). 7' away, signal dropped from 20Mbps down to 11Mbps. With Bluetooth on, it dropped to 325Kbps. The serial # started with B___ (I think BCKOS?) I don't have it in front of me, but it's the older hardware version. Anyway, so I had it boxed up two days ago, but unboxed it last night, as I really didn't want to return it. I figured since I had done a hard reset, that MAYBE it would magically fix itself. However, I spent a few hours browsing XDA, and testing the prime as much as I could and still ended up boxing it back up and shipping it out today. Looking around at other options, as I need something for work, I honestly don't want anything else. I want my Prime back... Just... Working.
My buddy is also looking for a tablet, and before I decided to return mine, he was about to purchase one. I called him yesterday and just told him to hold off.. It IS the best tablet out there, but the few quirks just need fixed before it's something I can recommend.
Issues I had with mine:
1. GPS was horrible (never flexed tablet to see if it'd fix it)
2. Wifi at close range worked good, anything more than 5' dropped considerably
3. With Bluetooth on & connected to headset would bring Wifi speeds to a crawl
4. Browser would hang on loading pages, and wouldn't allow scrolling, often times would state that "browser is unresponsive" and ask if i wanted to wait or close
5. Background formatting was a hassle. Nothing ever fit right (unless i followed some 3rd party tweaks)
6. Updates for Camera/GPS never did anything or improved anything.
7. Tegra 3 Optimized games would hang. Often times screen would go haywire or would open & close instantly without loading the game.
Ultimately, it came down to this: I honestly think that the OP was correct that the pins are the main culprit. I don't think it's something that can be fixed via a software update. Also, I am pretty upset that Asus is making the customer pay for shipping. It is their fault these tablets are having these problems, not the customer. I have always been a fan of Asus, and I'm not going to say that the problems with this tablet are going to make me never purchase another Asus product again.. I mean, look at their history with mainboards & video cards.. Some have issues, but you all know that if you were going to put your trust into either of those products, Asus would be something you would feel comfortable recommending.
I don't feel that we should say "poor Asus" and stroke their ego. I think us, as consumers should stand our ground and demand free shipping to the repair facility for a mistake they made. Just as they'd expect you to pay if you broke it and needed it fixed. They broke it, they fix it. Pretty plain and simple. Anyway, good luck to everyone here. I will be closely monitoring this forum, as I really want the issues resolved quickly.. I can't wait to have that beast in my arms again.
Unfortunately I'm in the same boat. Mine is going back this weekend. I gave it two weeks, but random browser freezes, minor light bleed, game crashes, gps, low wifi power, and all the rest add up to a poor user experience. Make your opinion known with your wallet.
briderx said:
My buddy is also looking for a tablet, and before I decided to return mine, he was about to purchase one. I called him yesterday and just told him to hold off..
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If the pogo pins turn out to be the reason for different wireless performance between Prime's, Asus is going to have to come clean like they did with GPS. They can either do it actively (mea culpa) or passively (change the design on future units). If they take the latter path someone here on XDA will figure it out. Regardless, this seems potentially too big to ignore so hopefully there will be some sort of communication and/or design change. Once either occurs people can buy/re-buy with confidence. An uglier route would be for Asus to continue to produce low volumes of Prime's as-is to save face until the TF700's are available. It's obviously not a customer-centric approach but recoups their investment in the Prime and maintains a revenue stream in the short-term. Although the returns have to be killing them from a profitability perspective.
I've been accused of being a conspiracy theorist so I never mentioned this before. But if you watch this official Asus video from CES, their rep makes a big deal at the beginning about the Prime being sold alongside the TF700. Later in the video when talking about the TF700's back cover design he twice mentions the Prime in the past tense saying "had" and "did have." Don't shoot the messenger.
Kobald said:
After that, I might re-consider my position.
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You guys that are taking such a "the Prime's great" stance might want to be a little less confident in your positions. There are issues large and small that affect more than just a handful of devices. Some of the people that have provided commentary on the more serious wireless issues have been h/w engineers and what’s been discussed can’t be fixed with a Band Aid. This isn't just a case of "fanboys" vs. "haters" like you typically see in most forums.
With today's discussion on the pogo pin choice for connecting the Wi-Fi chip to its antennas, there's some serious questions that need to be answered. As all these issues keep accumulating, keep in the back of your mind Asus announced a new device with identical features to the Prime less than three weeks after it was released. They may co-exist peacefully for a long time or Asus could pull the Prime (or put a non-HD display on the TF700 and call it the TF600) soon after it's released as a way of addressing the Prime's shortcomings. With the amount of returns, RMA’s for repair, and scarcity which points to manufacturing issues, what profit their making is quickly evaporating. And no company continues to produce a product they don't make money on. If they do pull or replace the Prime, many will remember those that staunchly supported the Prime when logic dictates there's something very troubling about how it’s come to market.
BarryH_GEG said:
And no company continues to produce a product they don't make money on. If they do pull or replace the Prime, many will remember those that staunchly supported the Prime when logic dictates there's something very troubling about how it’s come to market.
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There you go, putting Asus on the spot again. There is NO WAY they released this tablet without knowing about the GPS, WiFi, WiFi+BT issues. They knew about all of it, but their analysts computed that selling it "as is" would be more profitable than recalling it and fixing it.
For 99% of us, we are happy with screen bleed, bad WiFi range, no GPS, screen colors bad, chargers that fall apart, no BT with Wifi, dead pixels and random reboots. Those issues are non-issues, we love our Primes unconditionally.
Go troll someplace else.
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For 99% of us, we are happy with screen bleed, bad WiFi range, no GPS, screen colors bad, chargers that fall apart, no BT with Wifi, dead pixels and random reboots. Those issues are non-issues, we love our Primes unconditionally.
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If you're being facetious, that's hysterical.
Go troll someplace else.
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If you're being serious, those are big words for someone with a whopping 19 posts, all in this forum, and all this month.
Maybe.
I'm almost 1-for-2 thanks for posts though.
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Maybe.
I'm almost 1-for-1 thanks for posts though.
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Not a difficult strategy to accumulate "thanks." Demandarin's gotten hundreds that way in a few weeks. Simply jump in to any thread that has an even slightly negative slant and unleash a torrent of positive adjectives. That way, those that are blinded by love for their Prime's will in unison give you tons of thanks for contributing nothing of substance to the discussion. Keep up the good work. You should be at a 100 thanks in no time if that's what you're aiming for.
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Not a difficult strategy to accumulate "thanks." Demandarin's gotten hundreds that way in a few weeks. Simply jump in to any thread that has an even slightly negative slant and unleash a torrent of positive adjectives. That way, those that are blinded by love for their Prime's will in unison give you tons of thanks for contributing nothing of substance to the discussion. Keep up the good work. You should be at a 100 thanks in no time if that's what you're aiming for.
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Not my goal Barry, I just try to point out the obvious. I actually agree with most of your posts and have sent you Thanks.
I haven't been around long, but Asus really screwed the pooch on TFP. But for some unknown reason, some people act like TFP is a dear family member and defend it way beyond reason.
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Not my goal Barry, I just try to point out the obvious. I actually agree with most of your posts and have sent you Thanks.
I haven't been around long, but Asus really screwed the pooch on TFP. But for some unknown reason, some people act like TFP is a dear family member and defend it way beyond reason.
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Well shoot, you were being facetious. I love wicked humor.
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Cool starry bra.
This morning I woke up, took a shower and went to work. Then I went to lunch.
Fact is, NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU DID!!!!
My TFP has screen bleed, bad WiFi, WiFi/BT issues, no GPS and creaky screen. I don't ask for advice or sympathy. I suck it up and deal with it, knowing that my TFP is the most awesome tablet ever designed.
Good luck with your A700, iPad3, whatever when it comes out. But for the next 2 weeks or so, my TFP will smoke the specs of your next device.
After that, I might re-consider my position.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but if you were talking to me (OP), look at my post:
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I will be closely monitoring this forum, as I really want the issues resolved quickly.. I can't wait to have that beast in my arms again.
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Meaning: I loved my Prime.. No question, hands down it was awesome. Unfortunately for me, using this for business (as I also stated in OP) wasn't an option. And, again, as I stated above, I will be repurchasing it. Just, after the issues that I have with it are fixed. I didn't complain and ask for opinions either.. I formulated my own and acted on my opinion well before posting this.
What's the point of a forum, if you can only post good things about a product? I don't have to agree with your statements, nor do you have to agree with mine.. Both are acceptable! I say, by all means man, if it works for you, keep it! I would too if I didn't have to rely on adequate wifi, or the occasional GPS lock. I was fine with the games crashing.. I didn't want it for games. But all the problems added up to something I feel would ultimately be useless for me to utilize.
If you weren't talking to me, disregard all the above
I get 10 meg down approx 30-35 feet away through 4 walls. The same or better tests than I get with my other devices.
I used to be able to lock GPS still, but not moving, after a pinch near the GPS connector I can lock fine while going 70mph.
No crashes.
No screen bleed.
No color issues or bright spots.
No force closing apps so far.
Dock connects solidly and works great.
Sucks to be y`all.
Yeah, my screen was perfect.. The light bleed was next to zero.. Nothing more than any other devices I own. I also had no dead pixels. Upon upgrading to ICS (did it within the first 5 hours owning it) I had I think 2 random reboots, that was the first day I owned it. Didn't have any after that. I didn't want to pinch the screen, because I was scared of denting it or breaking it, and knowing my luck, it would have happened moments before returning it . I contemplated picking up a newer serial # one, but while in OD, they didn't have any in stock.. I was hoping maybe they had one on display that I could have checked to see if performance was better (browser/wifi) and then just grab another. I posted my serial # above to also let people know, that I was evidently in the group with "older hardware". So, my experiences may have been a bit limited.. I feel naked without mine now
Edit: Kids also keep asking me to get it back because I purchased a few of the Bearenstain Bears books, as well as some free books for kids on the kindle marketplace.. Probably the one thing I miss most. Ha.
Not that it matter or you care, but I have the BC serial that is "older hardware."
Gary posted a possible fix of manually reverting back to HC, changing some setting to what appears to be "normal" and then re-updating to ICS. I didn't touch a thing before upgrading to ICS, but I know some of you got yours before ICS was out.
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Not that it matter or you care, but I have the BC serial that is "older hardware."
Gary posted a possible fix of manually reverting back to HC, changing some setting to what appears to be "normal" and then re-updating to ICS. I didn't touch a thing before upgrading to ICS, but I know some of you got yours before ICS was out.
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What's it supposed to do? I'm curious.. It'd be nice if it fixed some of the app lockups i experienced & the browser sluggishness.. I did mention above, that I did do a factory reset (not manual downgrade then re-upgrade like you posted) hoping maybe that'd fix some of it..
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What's it supposed to do? I'm curious.. It'd be nice if it fixed some of the app lockups i experienced & the browser sluggishness.. I did mention above, that I did do a factory reset (not manual downgrade then re-upgrade like you posted) hoping maybe that'd fix some of it..
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He did not mention what the cuplrit was, but I think it was in reference to the random crashing.
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I get 10 meg down approx 30-35 feet away through 4 walls. The same or better tests than I get with my other devices.
I used to be able to lock GPS still, but not moving, after a pinch near the GPS connector I can lock fine while going 70mph.
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No color issues or bright spots.
No force closing apps so far.
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Trust me, this won't last. You'll notice some form or fashion of screen defects in a couple of weeks, just in time for your policy to have expired for a return/exchange... in which case you will be forced to ship it off to ASUS.
That will be the cost of your smug sense of self-worth.
I don't believe in a "perfect" TFP, because that would be less likely than seeing a Double-Rainbow, all the way.
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Trust me, this won't last. You'll notice some form or fashion of screen defects in a couple of weeks, just in time for your policy to have expired for a return/exchange... in which case you will be forced to ship it off to ASUS.
That will be the cost of your smug sense of self-worth.
I don't believe in a "perfect" TFP, because that would be less likely than seeing a Double-Rainbow, all the way.
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Yes of course, I'll trust the random guy on a forum. I won't consider the multiple friends with them who don't have issues. When a hundred people on a forum complain that means every tablet is bunk.
And by the way, every rainbow is a double rainbow, look a little harder next time.
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Yes of course, I'll trust the random guy on a forum. I won't consider the multiple friends with them who don't have issues. When a hundred people on a forum complain that means every tablet is bunk.
And by the way, every rainbow is a double rainbow, look a little harder next time.
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Yeah, but is it all the way across the sky?
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Yeah, but is it all the way across the sky?
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It's always the same as the main rainbow, just dimmer and the colors are flipped. I have seen plenty, along with a triple rainbow across the whole sky outside of redrocks in I believe 2008.
I like my prime, and don't care whether you do or not.
Well do you? or not?
BTW if you want to post a sad or happy story, post away but vote first.
Edit JD made a good point if you cant return it but wish you could vote under the appropriate return slot
no option for depends if I can get a refund or not cause then I won't have a choice
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no option for depends if I can get a refund or not cause then I won't have a choice
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nope keeping it real simple, just curious about the basics yes, no, maybe, and returning.
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nope keeping it real simple, just curious about the basics yes, no, maybe, and returning.
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some people would return but no longer have the option just saying your missing that from the poll cause that's my vote. I would return for a refund if I could
I'll like even more with an unlocked BL . First tablet I've ever owned and am completely satisfied. The 1 thing I wish it had was a USB port but I'm happy.
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Majority speaks so far. Just like in other polls.
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Majority speaks so far. Just like in other polls.
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Yeah it's interesting, I just wanted something not shaded, I probably shouldn't have even mentioned that I like mine
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Yeah it's interesting, I just wanted something not shaded, I probably shouldn't have even mentioned that I like mine
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Its fair enough. All I would want is people to vote honestly. N I feel the ones that like the prime always do. That's how all this type polls turn out the same. Majority loves the prime n want to keep it. We know prime has its flaws, for me GPS. But when you get a good working one, like me..lol, its too hard to deny that this is a great device. Just glad I don't have to deal with issues to take away from my enjoyment of it. Its like the prime stays glued to my hands now..lol my ipad just sits n collect dust now if my girl not using it..lol
I voted "Not decided". I have only had for a few hours and I Love everything about this Tablet except for the Wifi weakness and that might not be a deal breaker. The reason I got a Tablet was for my wife to take to meetings where she needs Wifi access for Webpages and the ability for her to transfer Documents and Data she has on our PC to the Tablet and vice versa. We had a 7 year old Laptop she had been using and it was time for an update anyhow and she loves the size and weight of a tablet. The Prime is PERFECT for her if she can get good WiFi at Conference meetings in Convention Centers and Hotels. She really doesn't have a meeting until April where she needs the Tablet so I am going to have to try to test the Wifi in some areas before hand since I have the 14 days I can return to Best Buy.
How often will you "wife" get to use it?
Back to dislike. Boo for sleep issue!
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About 70% so far like the prime and keeping it. This number will only get higher.
This is all The Delphi effect. The opinion of the masses will have more merit than the opinion of one random chosen person. Sociologists have discovered that and that alone determines the mood of what's really going on. Whenever it comes time to poll voting, those displeased or riddled with issues can never muster up the numbers to truely reflect the what's really going on. Also the excuse of oh people returned tablet n moved on is b.s. they mostly all still here watching and posting here. Seen tons that "Supposedly" returned device for good or "Done" with forums yet they hang around to make sure to try to bash. Lol its all funny actually but very obvious.
The Delphi effect will always determines what's really going on within a mass or group. Poll votes show only on the surface, front page general news, may look bad, but overall its a completely different story and complete opposite of what's it seeming like.
If you don't know what the Delphi effect means, look it up. Then all this will start to make sense on what's really going on.
clap your hands y'all, it's alright.
I have four Android tablets and sold off the fifth. My Prime is the best of the lot. It is not perfect, but the best.
Bye.
Love it and Keeping it....even if I have been bitten by the last update....I have confidence that ASUS will resolve the issues, its a new device on new software....its prime (pun intended) for issues.....but the sheer power of this device is awesome...and am a proud to own this beast.
I Like the style on mine personally that's about it. It works real good if I sit right beside my router and use it. Probably going to take it back, I love the design though I just wish my WiFi was better, then I would keep it for sure. I might just wait and get the Lenovo Tegra 3 or Samsung Tegra 3 when they come out. I hate to wait though, that's the only thing that will let me keep this is if I fell like I don't want to wait 4-5 months for the other Tegra 3s, but I heard Acer was coming out soon, like in a month or so. Just not a big fan of Acer Tegra 3. I Might get Samsung 8.9 just to hold me over. Its got a dual core 1.4, which will probably overclock close to 2.0GHZ dual core so I'm assuming its runs pretty good.
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About 70% so far like the prime and keeping it. This number will only get higher.
This is all The Delphi effect. The opinion of the masses will have more merit than the opinion of one random chosen person. Sociologists have discovered that and that alone determines the mood of what's really going on. Whenever it comes time to poll voting, those displeased or riddled with issues can never muster up the numbers to truely reflect the what's really going on. Also the excuse of oh people returned tablet n moved on is b.s. they mostly all still here watching and posting here. Seen tons that "Supposedly" returned device for good or "Done" with forums yet they hang around to make sure to try to bash. Lol its all funny actually but very obvious.
The Delphi effect will always determines what's really going on within a mass or group. Poll votes show only on the surface, front page general news, may look bad, but overall its a completely different story and complete opposite of what's it seeming like.
If you don't know what the Delphi effect means, look it up. Then all this will start to make sense on what's really going on.
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You add to your theory here I finally voted in one of these polls. I love my prime and will certainly be keeping it.
Wifi works fine everywhere I have used it having no trouble getting and holding a signal. At home I get 100% throughput of my 6mbps line and the router is in the very corner of my bedroom and I lay on the couch on complete opposite corner. My house is about 1500sqft and single level so it's through a door down the hall and around the corner from me.
Screen is great, two tiny spots of lightbleed on bottom left that is only visible on boot screen, it is utterly invisible during use and if it wasn't I would be returning it as I'm a videophile and it would drive me insane. No dead or stuck pixels either as a single one is unacceptable for me on any of my personally owned devices.
Battery is fine and in fact I haven't charged it in over two days now, granted only used it very lightly due to available time but that is still fantastic. The current charge is still 60% in fact.
I only use bluetooth for transferring small files between the tablet and my phone so haven't been able to test slowing of wifi with bluetooth headphones, and not having any wireless headphones probably won't be anytime soon. I do know it's not detrimental to my wife when I am actively using my sixaxis controller with an app of the same name though as I can still browse net without issue and launch ROMs off a mounted folder from my NAS.
Never had a single reboot or sleep of death either (knock on wood).
Don't know what else I can cover really, but the fact this is the first poll I have voted in and I am happy as I am with it shows some proof of the motivation that those that are happy with it have to actively hunt and vote on these things. I just recently started being louder about my satisfaction due to the extremely repetitive nature of a handful of negative posters.
My battery is draining faster after the most recent OTA and I've experienced a couple of lockups over the past week but not enough to make me want to return. I feel like these minor issues will be ironed out by Asus in the next OTA. Hopefully something else won't break, lol.
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My battery is draining faster after the most recent OTA and I've experienced a couple of lockups over the past week but not enough to make me want to return. I feel like these minor issues will be ironed out by Asus in the next OTA. Hopefully something else won't break, lol.
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As I look at my prime I just noticed a little issue that was fixed in the latest OTA. In the stock weather widget it was showing %% and is now showing %. That to me was a tiny issue...and guess what....they fixed it. So something like battery drain will get fixed. ASUS is known for fast responses to their customers. I am not worried about it...they will fix it.
First off: I am not anti-Google. I use all the main Google apps. I have had four Android phones, own 2 Nexus 7's and would take Android over iOS any day of the week.
But...
I am through with this piece of crap that passes for the Nexus 10.
Since buying this thing when it first came out I have had to put up with dodgy wifi connections, creaky flexing back panels, random freezes and reboots, and - worst of all - deal-breakingly poor quality control on the screens. I have been through several RMAs with Google Play (to the point where they are refusing to send me any more replacements - and at the moment they are not even replying to my emails) and am now on my 5th device. All of the devices have had unacceptable levels of light bleed, and - worse still - blotchy screens with uneven yellow or blue tints. I have been through nightmares with the Play store and TNT trying to get devices returned and shipped, and have a pile of email correspondence so long that it could be turned into a Peter Jackson trilogy. The Play store is staffed by some of the greatest morons that I have ever had the misfortune to have to deal with. I have constantly been given wrong or misleading information, and have had to harass and badger them at every stage to get anything done. I still have a device listed as 'pending' on my Google Wallet that has long since been returned, despite being told on numerous occasions that an 'expert' was going to remove it.
For anyone with a perfect device, or who is just happy with their's however it is: I am genuinely pleased for you. This could, and more importantly, should, have been an amazing piece of kit. But as it is, my time with the Nexus 10 has been, without any shadow of a doubt, the absolute worst customer experience I have had in my entire life, by a long country mile.
My blotchy, creaky, light bleedy slab of **** is going back. I'll be getting a full refund and returning to my long neglected iPad. Which actually works like it's supposed to.
YMMV
my two cents
When you got the second sample and were still unhappy then it was masochistic to keep trying. You should have given up and ended the pain way before getting to the fifth device. Clearly it is not designed to the quality you require and most, if not all, of the samples were probably typical of the quality of everyone else's.
Crap is in the eye of the beholder. Many others, including myself, are not sensitive to the defects you point out. I don't care about an occasional reboot (which only happened in the first day for me), the light bleed, case cracking sounds, etc. Different people have different needs.
You were asking the support people to make the product right for you, which is probably impossible given that particular design. How do you expect them to behave? They certainly aren't going to say the nexus 10 is **** and they also can't say that you are wrong. The nexus 10 is not **** for most people and you are not wrong for wanting a particular level of quality.
To make a long story short you should walk away and spend your energy finding something better instead of banging your head against a lost cause.
+1 for "my two cents"
Well it took me forever to get a good one... Returns and repairs but its pretty good now.
Funny you praise the nexus 7 while cursing this one. I got 8 crap n7s in a row. Finding one without bleed and lifted screen is like finding a unicorn. The ones not plagued by screen issues are pretty cool... The same can be said for the n10.
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First off: I am not anti-Google. I use all the main Google apps. I have had four Android phones, own 2 Nexus 7's and would take Android over iOS any day of the week.
But...
I am through with this piece of crap that passes for the Nexus 10.
Since buying this thing when it first came out I have had to put up with dodgy wifi connections, creaky flexing back panels, random freezes and reboots, and - worst of all - deal-breakingly poor quality control on the screens. I have been through several RMAs with Google Play (to the point where they are refusing to send me any more replacements - and at the moment they are not even replying to my emails) and am now on my 5th device. All of the devices have had unacceptable levels of light bleed, and - worse still - blotchy screens with uneven yellow or blue tints. I have been through nightmares with the Play store and TNT trying to get devices returned and shipped, and have a pile of email correspondence so long that it could be turned into a Peter Jackson trilogy. The Play store is staffed by some of the greatest morons that I have ever had the misfortune to have to deal with. I have constantly been given wrong or misleading information, and have had to harass and badger them at every stage to get anything done. I still have a device listed as 'pending' on my Google Wallet that has long since been returned, despite being told on numerous occasions that an 'expert' was going to remove it.
For anyone with a perfect device, or who is just happy with their's however it is: I am genuinely pleased for you. This could, and more importantly, should, have been an amazing piece of kit. But as it is, my time with the Nexus 10 has been, without any shadow of a doubt, the absolute worst customer experience I have had in my entire life, by a long country mile.
My blotchy, creaky, light bleedy slab of **** is going back. I'll be getting a full refund and returning to my long neglected iPad. Which actually works like it's supposed to.
YMMV
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Cool story
You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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It is possible @boominski is a troll. Just saying.
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You know, I can see your point, but I can't see how it merits a new thread here.
What do we gain from reading it? What do you gain from us having read it? (I can totally understand what you gained by writing it, but why not pin in on a wall, be it real or virtual?).
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He is sharing his bad experience. Anyone looking to buy a Nexus 10 should be aware of both the good side, and bad sides.
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He is sharing his bad experience. Anyone looking to buy a Nexus 10 should be aware of both the good side, and bad sides.
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There is a difference between useful sharing of a bad experience and trashing it. He seems to be saying that he was harmed and the world owes him something. No company owes anyone anything unless they misrepresent the product or are outright fraudulent.
I actually feel sorry for the support team on this one. Sending 5 units is beyond the call of duty. I would quit responding to his emails also. A friend of mine worked in support and he called these customers "screamers". There was nothing you could do to make them happy. He wanted to tell them to give up and buy a competitors product but he could have lost his job for saying that.
It is *possible* he is an apple fan coming here to troll. I'm not accusing him but I've seen this on other forums many times. The fact that he says he is going back to his iPad is a clue.
I feel so sorry to the customer service handle your case.
Such customer shall be doing such job to learn the lesson.
Requesting 5 times changing was ridiculous. If 2nd change not fulfil your requirements. Stop continue and by just requested for full refund as it was known the thing never right nor matter how many times you change it.
It was great for your continue using back your satisfied iPad.
Think twice in future before repeating such hilarious attitude.
Idk, on one hand, if he really wanted the device, 5 tries at it doesn't seem too bad. On the other hand, if decent QC was actually existent, then so many replacements wouldn't have to be issued to find an "acceptable" device (for $400 I wouldn't deal with excessive screen bleed nor a creaky back either; luckily I have neither on my first device though).
So, it's either deal with the QC flaws on a $400 device, or annoy CS because of lack of QC. Maybe annoying them will actually make Google/Samsung do some better QC
As for the Apple part, I do agree it is kind of unnecessary. But then again if that's the tablet that works for him, then meh.
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There is a difference between useful sharing of a bad experience and trashing it. He seems to be saying that he was harmed and the world owes him something. No company owes anyone anything unless they misrepresent the product or are outright fraudulent.
I actually feel sorry for the support team on this one. Sending 5 units is beyond the call of duty. I would quit responding to his emails also. A friend of mine worked in support and he called these customers "screamers". There was nothing you could do to make them happy. He wanted to tell them to give up and buy a competitors product but he could have lost his job for saying that.
It is *possible* he is an apple fan coming here to troll. I'm not accusing him but I've seen this on other forums many times. The fact that he says he is going back to his iPad is a clue.
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Not trolling at all. Actually reading this on my Nexus 7 rather than my iPad. Android is so far ahead of iOS it feels like a backward step to have to use it. Was going to sell the thing if the Nexus 10 turned out right. Such a shame since the N10 pisses all over the iPad in every respect. Apart from the defective screen, obviously. I can overlook the creaks (put it in a case) and the light bleed (don't watch films in the dark).I can even overlook the WiFi and reboot issues, but an uneven screen is a deal breaker. I use my tablets primarily for reading, so yellow patches are highly distracting. And as for the Play Store staff: I have come across some who have been extremely helpful, but I've also been repeatedly given wrong information, lied to and messed about. The customer service is genuinely appalling. As for just giving in: it took me three exchanges to get a decent iPad (uneven screen again), so am not inclined to throw in the towel. What would make me happy? A reasonably uniform screen. I'm not looking for perfection. I know these are mass produced consumer products. But equally I see no reason to spend £300 on something sub-standard. If Google don't want me returning things then they should get their quality control sorted out. And yes - writing this has been cathartic.
Good bye
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As someone who has worked in retail for 17 year in positions that involve selling the general public goods what you hear from over the top customers is usually about 40% truth and 60% exaggeration in the hopes it will escalate their problem and get it resolved quickly to `their' satisifaction. Typically what is considered `their satisfaction' is a set of goal posts that never stops moving.
The replacement collectors I pay no attention to.. There is one dude around here that his signature is how he's had 5 Nexus 10 replacements and 5 Nexus 4 replacements.. Seriously.. I can't take that seriously..
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As someone who has worked in retail for 17 year in positions that involve selling the general public goods what you hear from over the top customers is usually about 40% truth and 60% exaggeration in the hopes it will escalate their problem and get it resolved quickly to `their' satisifaction. Typically what is considered `their satisfaction' is a set of goal posts that never stops moving.
The replacement collectors I pay no attention to.. There is one dude around here that his signature is how he's had 5 Nexus 10 replacements and 5 Nexus 4 replacements.. Seriously.. I can't take that seriously..
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Which part of my post do you think is an exaggeration? The part where I said that I wasn't looking for perfection, could live with light bleed, wifi drop-outs and reboots, but drew the line at wanting a 'reasonably' even screen in terms of temperature and light distribution was a clue as to what I consider my 'goalposts' to be. My iPad isn't perfect: the screen is not 100% uniform and it has minor light bleed. My Nexus 7 isn't perfect: it has some light bleed, wifi drop-outs and the screen flicker issue. My Android phone isn't perfect: the screen is not 100% even. But are they acceptable? Yes. Because. even though consumer devices are not perfect, they are of a 'reasonable' quality.
That = 'goalposts'.
Why is that too hard for some people to understand?
Nothing in this world is perfection.
From all you write, you are finding for perfection but just not admit only.
Why life so hard? You can't be happy and satisfied forever as you are too towards for perfection. They is no such thing in this world!
this thing is sooo slugish and freezes after 4.2.2 update
this thing is going to my sisters 7 year old. I already told him if he drops and breaks it he will be doing us all a favor. ever since the 4.2.2 update it became laggy in all areas.
i think the only good thing about this thing was the ppi.....i did a lot of ebook reading.
I ordered ( just got the confirmation from microsoft) a surface pro. sorry google, i tried so many times along with 4 rma's and i just cant do this any more. please open those brick motar stores you keep talking about. it will make it easier for us to return your products.
...joe
The customer service representatives tell you to return it until you get one you are satisfied with. Not the other way around. They are quick to offer another RMA. I stopped after the second one had horrible light bleed because I didn't want to play THEIR game any more. I got a refund and got the hell out of the crappy RMA merry go round. I'm waiting to hear if they have fixed the quality control issues but sadly it still sounds like a crap shoot.
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this thing is going to my sisters 7 year old. I already told him if he drops and breaks it he will be doing us all a favor. ever since the 4.2.2 update it became laggy in all areas.
i think the only good thing about this thing was the ppi.....i did a lot of ebook reading.
I ordered ( just got the confirmation from microsoft) a surface pro. sorry google, i tried so many times along with 4 rma's and i just cant do this any more. please open those brick motar stores you keep talking about. it will make it easier for us to return your products.
...joe
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Really? for me after 4.2.2 I find the tablet is more responsiveness and battery life is improved - not sluggish at all. I have not had a reboot so far while using the tabet but did experience a few wifi drops (reconnected after a few seconds). Still trying to figure out where wifi drops happen as I'm running a Asus RT-N66U (with Tomato firmware).
I am running stock and lost root after the OTA upgrade. Have you tried a factory reset?
I genuinely can't believe that people see the need to RMA their N10 (or any device) due to the smallest things that they've found by specifically looking for them. Yes my N10 has light bleed and yes it did have problems with rebooting (before 4.2.2) but it doesn't bother me.
I would never use an LCD screen on full brightness in a dark room so will never notice the small amounts of light bleed it has. The reboots are a software issue that can be fixed by an update and are so infrequent that they are almost insignificant anyway. And a 'creaky back' definitely doesn't warrant getting the thing replaced; it's plastic so is bound to creak when you purposely flex it which you're not supposed to do.
Is anyone else shocked by the sheer number of people that will happily request multiple replacements because of the stupidest things and then wonder why the price increases or the customer service seems rushed? They've somehow got pay for all the testing, repackaging, restocking and reselling of these apparently 'defective' devices.
Hi, I've decided to cancel my order of the OnePlus X, but the order state is already: 'processing'. OnePlus spokeperson told me that i can refuse the package when it ships to me and they will refund me the money.
My question is, will they refund the WHOLE cost (Phone+shipement) or just the cost of the phone?
Thanks in advance.
Why didn't you ask this to them? :3
I did, but they respond at best once a day(I know they have a lot of customers at the moments, so I'm okay with it). I'm asking here, maybe someone had a similar problem.
I'm in the same boat. I opened also a PayPal dispute as they advised. I'm also not sure the express shipping costs will be refunded. Please keep this thread updated with your and/or others people experiences.
Pretty much sure they won't refund shipping cost, they'll probably also charge you for return shipping.
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Pretty much sure they won't refund shipping cost, they'll probably also charge you for return shipping.
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Sounds fair to me. They shipped it in good faith that they had a legitimate order.
Yeah i agree with @CafeKampuchina
Why buy a phone if you won't want it?? Such a stupid thing to do.
I bought the phone with an invite since it was going to expire in a few hours, but the next day i saw how unfinished this product is (software/AA cpu/camera/sd problems etc adn how I could have bought something better for this price) so I've submitted a ticket to cancel my order while it was still at "pending shipment".
//NOTE it was still at: Pending shipment, which means they should have just cancel the order and refund me the money as it states here:
"You can cancel your order before it ships by submitting a ticket. Please make sure to choose Cancellation as the issue!
However, once your order status has been changed to “Processing”, your package will be on its way to the address that you provided. In this case, you may refuse the parcel and send us a cancellation request saying you've done so. We'll issue you a full refund when we confirm the package has been returned to our warehouse"
I have submitted the ticket at 11:00PM, however the guy have responded to my ticket at 4:00AM, and it changed to "processing" at ~2:00/3:00AM. To be honest I dont see this as my fault, but I've not heard from him since and the phone is on its way to my house.
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@Qbsti
You should sell it unopened as soon as it arrives.. This phone has a lot of demand so no harm, and you will make someone very happy..!
I agree with the above, just sell it.
Oh and next time don't believe every person who's complaining about issues, because some people are compulsive moaners.
I for one an totally happy with my OPX, and I have had it for a week now. Most of those issues you mention are down to software an OP team are already working on a fix.
jackshot said:
@Qbsti
You should sell it unopened as soon as it arrives.. This phone has a lot of demand so no harm, and you will make someone very happy..!
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In Poland there is little to none demand for the phone. On our "ebay", Allegro.pl you can find many offers, but no one is buying.
I guess I'm stuck with this phone at least untill the next nexus with sd820.
Jackshot - I'm kind of worried about the camera and low audio quality /w headphones. I'm long past being a mobile gamer
Qbsti said:
In Poland there is little to none demand for the phone. On our "ebay", Allegro.pl you can find many offers, but no one is buying.
I guess I'm stuck with this phone at least untill the next nexus with sd820.
Jackshot - I'm kind of worried about the camera and low audio quality /w headphones. I'm long past being a mobile gamer
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Who told you that the audio is bad with headphones?
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Who told you that the audio is bad with headphones?
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OnePlus forums, gsmarena review (http://www.gsmarena.com/one_plus_x-review-1337p6.php).
Qbsti said:
OnePlus forums, gsmarena review (http://www.gsmarena.com/one_plus_x-review-1337p6.php).
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All the threads on OP forums are praising this device. No one has said that audio is bad, and neither have I. I've actually listened via earphones for about 2-3 hours this week and it sounds perfectly fine to me.
geko95gek said:
All the threads on OP forums are praising this device. No one has said that audio is bad, and neither have I. I've actually listened via earphones for about 2-3 hours this week and it sounds perfectly fine to me.
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Well Im coming from N4 which had pretty bad audio quality (bad speaker, subpar headphone quality, terrible call quality) so maybe it will not bother me that much.
Also the thing I noticed about people, especially in India, when they are hyped about a device they prise everything about it without noticing any shortcomings.
Anyway, if I have to lose 20% if the price in the process of returning the phone then I'm going to keep it.
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Well Im coming from N4 which had pretty bad audio quality (bad speaker, subpar headphone quality, terrible call quality) so maybe it will not bother me that much.
Also the thing I noticed about people, especially in India, when they are hyped about a device they prise everything about it without noticing any shortcomings.
Anyway, if I have to lose 20% if the price in the process of returning the phone then I'm going to keep it.
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Yeah I had a nexus 4 as well mate, which my gf now owns. I used to listen to it via headphones, it didint sound too bad but then again I wasn't running stock. Speaker was pretty poor tbh, both quality and positioning.
I'm happy with the whole package of the OPX, it has its shortcomings but all of them seem software related. Yes there is only 1 speaker on the OPX but the quality is pretty good and the position is great, and I understand that they had a budget to work with. Which seems even more admirable considering what they have achieved.
Keep the phone. I think many people just keep panicking and overreacting when they find some bugs. You have to remember that as usual people that are satisfied with their purchase tend to forget to write reviews since they're busy playing with their phone and are happy with it, but almost everyone who's not happy is going to write everywhere how crappy this phone is.
I'm pretty sure that you'll like the phone more than you think you will. Also trust in devs. Most of the bugs that you'll find will be gone by the end of the year
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Keep the phone. I think many people just keep panicking and overreacting when they find some bugs. You have to remember that as usual people that are satisfied with their purchase tend to forget to write reviews since they're busy playing with their phone and are happy with it, but almost everyone who's not happy is going to write everywhere how crappy this phone is.
I'm pretty sure that you'll like the phone more than you think you will. Also trust in devs. Most of the bugs that you'll find will be gone by the end of the year
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I'm a long time Paranoid Android user, and most of their team is working for OnePlus at the moment. I belive that they can make this phone fly
i am coming from a nexus4
this phone feels good in hand
performance is very good
camera ist okay although helen said they will release manual mode camera sometime
sound quality is fine. i dont hear any difference to other devices
battery life is good but can be tuned software wise
display is really good
i think most problems this phone has are due to the immature software
the opx is a really good phone for the price point
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Keep the phone. I think many people just keep panicking and overreacting when they find some bugs. You have to remember that as usual people that are satisfied with their purchase tend to forget to write reviews since they're busy playing with their phone and are happy with it, but almost everyone who's not happy is going to write everywhere how crappy this phone is.
I'm pretty sure that you'll like the phone more than you think you will. Also trust in devs. Most of the bugs that you'll find will be gone by the end of the year
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Totally agree, people just love to moan. Especially on the OP forums.
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I'm a long time Paranoid Android user, and most of their team is working for OnePlus at the moment. I belive that they can make this phone fly
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Yeah the toggle edit in the pull down is so blatantly from PA rom lol
ckret said:
i am coming from a nexus4
this phone feels good in hand
performance is very good
camera ist okay although helen said they will release manual mode camera sometime
sound quality is fine. i dont hear any difference to other devices
battery life is good but can be tuned software wise
display is really good
i think most problems this phone has are due to the immature software
the opx is a really good phone for the price point
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Totally agree.