[Q] & [POLL] Atrix american version vs intl version - frequency, frequency! - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

It's well known that these two versions are different by antenna frequency. i wonder if this is a hardware difference or just some software limitation.
If it's only different by software, why you do a full flash of a Telstra rom on ATT phone cannot solve the problem?
In all cases, no matter whether it's hw or sw difference, can i still flash a french SBF to an AT&T atrix followed by flashing the stock radio file?
just wondering ...

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[Q] 2.1.1.A.0.6 Rogers rom on ATT?

Has anyone put the new Rogers rom on a locked ATT unit?
Any market problems?
Any problems removing Rogers apps?
I THINK want to go to one of the custom roms but I'm only on Baseband 2.0.46
and I don't have Dual Touch installed. But it seems that I'm required to update to the higher bb at least, and though I see a BB update only thread, it's unclear if all basebands are compatible with all SE 2.1 update-1. And then I would still have to update to dual touch prior to installing a custom rom.
Since these are two independent flash requirements, and it seems that I have to update to some rom higher than 504 anyway, so I was wondering if I could just go to the Rogers one.... getting dual touch and a higher baseband right off the bat in an official package in one shot, and check it out prior to deciding to move on.
Different basebands work with different firmwares and kernels. You can mix and match, to some degree (for instance, .55 baseband works with .435 or 2.1.1.A.0.6 FW), but there's really no reason to.
I own an AT&T X10a, and I always use the X10i Global Generic firmwares. All the features without all the crap.
Check out the link in my signature for an optimized version of the .435 firmware (dualtouch, etc). Follow the instructions, there's a file for flashing the new kernel and baseband on there.
Good luck!
kxhawkins said:
Check out the link in my signature for an optimized version of the .435 firmware (dualtouch, etc). Follow the instructions, there's a file for flashing the new kernel and baseband on there.
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But even your firmware says I have to flashtool a higher baseband to get it work prior. (Shouldn't you update your screen shots, you show bb 2.0.46 when you really mean 2.0.54) Though what you've put together is very interesting. Do you still have all the SE apps, too, in the collection of applications? (Just asking, I know they have apk's available.)
I'm just trying to avoid flashing multiple times now*, do a straight 2.1.1.A.0.6 update and flash only once and get higher baseband, dual touch and whatever other tweaks there are which don't require flashing. There's no LAM/NAM generic of this version yet?
*flashtool for me a PITA, because I don't have VISTA/Win7 computers generally available and it works better on that than XP which is problematic due to the SE usb drivers which sometimes freeze it in flash mode. I am getting a decent tax refund, I suppose it's time to upgrade to sandybridge and Win7 (since the first SP is out) before they announce Win8.

What radio to choose ?

Hi,
I have a french orange branded Atrix running under ORFR 2.3.4 and will most likely flash RedPill as soon as it gets in V4. I haven't changed the Radio yet, so I'd like to know
1) what radio would fit the best ?
2) is it safe to flash it ?
3) Can Intl and ATT users flash the same radios ?
We're having more and more ROMs but there's not much information about the radios, and I have to say that I'm starting to get lost with all those hardbrick problems...
Thanks for your help
Envoyé de mon Motorola Atrix
First off I'd recommend alien or picrust
But really, I would suggest trying the bell radio here first, then the ATT radio if that does not work.
It is safe to flash the radios found here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
1) Try bell, then ATT (and speedtest). If that fails, use the telestra radio
2) Yes (if it is extracted from an update ie. only 10-30mb in size)
3) Yes
Cheers
Ok I'll try the Bell when I'll flash a new rom. Thanks for the information !

[Q] CM7 Radio

Hi,
I am Bell Atrix User.
i want to know which radio should i flash.
Radio Images
(AT&T .91)
(Bell)
or i dont have to flash any just user the radio which come pre loaded with CM7.
P.S: i dont use 3g or HSPA+ or Edge, i just want gr8 battery life, quick wifi connection and low phone heat-up
Bell Atrix ? Bell radio ....
See this: https://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/wiki/FAQ
ofek said:
Bell Atrix ? Bell radio ....
See this: https://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/wiki/FAQ
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I just flashed CM7 Beta and i checked my baseband and its N_01.77.15P (which i am assuming is of Bell Froyo, and i was very much happy with it on froyo)
so should i continue with it (GPS seams to be working fine) or should i flash N_01.77.33P (like i said i dont use data connection at all.
CM7 is based on Gingerbread, and the Bell radio that CM crew recommend is the Gingerbread radio for Bell Atrix.
So you should install this radio
It will give you better performance since you now using Froyo radio with Gingerbread system.

[Q] Should I flash to a newer radio? If so which?

I bought an unlocked Atrix a while back from amazon and had it shipped to me to latin america (Panama). It ended up being a German O2 version with Froyo and a N_01.95.00R baseband/radio. It's been running great with everything unlocked and TDS ROM, however I've always had that nagging feeling that I should flash to a newer radio firmware.
Would anyone advise against it? More than looking for how to flash a radio (I read about fruitcake), I'm more interested in finding out which radio is it safe flash or which would be the correct one for me to flash. I'm a bit lost on this, since there doesn't appear to be a lot of information on the subject compared to everything else.
Unless you're having problems with your current radio - I'd just leave it alone. If you dont know what you're doing, you'll only break something.

bad speech quality - baseband problem? which baseband for germany?

Hi.
I am quite new to the Streak 5 and I flashed the Custom Rom DSC 1.6.
Unfortunately I now have a bad speech quality in calls.
Sometimes I cannot understand the other sometimes I cannot be understand.
I live in Germany.
Can you tell me which baseband do I have to use?
Unfortunately in the german Board nobody answers me, but they are using an original Rom with custom Kernel called Minimal Streak.
This is based on 351 Baseband.
Is this the baseband I have to flash for Germany?
Or is the baseband not based on countrys?
I'd personally recommend 366 or 369.
This means that is a Softbank Baseband.
Can you tell me what that means?
I thougt I need a 00 region Baseband. (Yes I know the Rom ignores the region)
Baseband files are flashed through Fastboot, thus there's no need to match the region of the ROM with the region of the recovery.
Thanks for the answers
But one question:
What is the 00 - 14 number?
I know, that is 14 for Olleh, etc. as the wiki says.
But what does that mean exactly for another device?
The world was divided into regions by Dell. Regions usually represent specific carriers although they may also represent specific countries, e.g. China. The numbers are Dell's internal codes for specific regions. As you figured out, region 14 is for Olleh KT phones. 00 is the region Dell used for unlocked Streaks available direct from them. The complete list of regions (pulled from my work with Multiflasher): 00 Retail, 11 Hong Kong, 12 Softbank (Japan), 14 Olleh KT (South Korea), 15 China, 21 O2 (UK), 31 AT&T (US), and 32 Rogers (Canada).
What this means for Dell devices is simple: there is code within the recovery image that checks for the proper flag in the firmware package. If the two match, then the recovery allows the installation to proceed. If the two do not match, the recovery will throw up an error and halt the installation at that point. I believe most non-Dell devices don't have such a check mechanism within their recoveries. I can confirm that HTC doesn't use such a check. The HTC Liberty phones were branded as the HTC Aria here in the US. The European HTC Liberty was named the Gratia. I installed a Gratia ROM onto an Aria without any difficulty whatsoever.
So, for other devices, unless they're Dell I wouldn't worry too much about the region check. That's something that is virtually unique to Dell.
So the region is nothing more than a flag?
It is not some code, which frequency to use, how to react on calls, how loud the speaker is or something?
Is there a list, which baseband has which properties?
(Except that most are satisfied with 366 and 369)
That's right. But before I continue I do need to clarify something. I mentioned that the baseband files were flashed through fastboot, thus you didn't need to match the ROM to the recovery in that instance. However, in order for the ROM to work properly, the baseband and kernel need to be of the same region or else the home, menu, and back buttons will flash repeatedly. The kernel itself checks the baseband's flags to see if everything matches.
Normally, when installing a stock ROM baseband mismatches don't occur since the baseband is flashed with its accompanying ROM using the matching recovery. The problem occurs however on custom ROMs that use a stock ROM as their base, e.g. DSC. For DSC, _n0p_ recently removed the region check from the kernel so that any baseband could be used on the ROM, though he recommends 366. Before that, DSC users were limited to using the 407 baseband. Cyanogenmod, ROMs based off Cyanogenmod, and MIUI I don't believe ever had the check code, and thus you could flash any baseband you wanted.
The baseband itself contains the low-level code that controls the various radios and possibly the speaker volumes as well. I don't know enough about the innards of the baseband files to tell you more. What I will tell you is that I'm not aware of any such list as what you ask for, because such a list would require disassembling the baseband repeatedly to find the differences, and such a list would be of dubious benefit in any event.
My advice to you? Install the 366 or 369 basebands and use the Phoenix kernel. You should be good to go.
Thanks a lot
Not exactly right.
Region check never existed.
Kernel checks BB version (3 or 4) and blinks on mismatch. Disabled on Phoenix kernel and it's derivatives.
Well, thanks for the correction.
One more question to this.
Is a softbank baseband 366 good for central europe or shoult I install the one most devices 351 here have?
Are the frequencies used in softbank 366 and 351 different?
(except speech quality is better in 366, I know.)
dont dsc 2.0 uses 366bb by default? or it is included as default streakmod flash?
You cannot flash AMSS/DSP from recovery (or at least i did not find a way so far).
So no defaults here.
I personally use 369 as it's the latest baseband released.
yeah, I already know that
But what about the frequencies :crying:
And what about them?
Supported GSM/3G bands are in hardware.
sorry.. not streakmod flash.. i mean fastboot flash...
As I understand it the baseband tells the phone which frequencies to use. That means if its a Japanese baseband it tells S5 to use japanese frequencies even though the S5 is not capable to use them due to hardware limitations.
The same with EU version.
Softbank is japanese. It tells S5 to use japanese frequencies. AFAIK some of them are identical to EU but not all. So the connectivity is worse than using retail baseband.
I don't think it's the case for Streak.
366/369 simply makes WCDMA default, that's all.
369bb? heh.. nice

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