Is it possible? It would be so bad ass to play some 3D Mario on the EVO 3D.
I dont think it will ever work
Yeah I wouldn't plan on ever seeing that.
Great concept, but don't you need two screens to play most games? I'm sure the Evo would have the more than enough processor/GPU power to run an emulator for it, though.
Mate it to an og evo via bluetooth and you have your second screen! [/problem]
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What kind of attitude is that? There were many things that people thought never worked on the EVO. Even HTC said it was impossible to run higher than 30fps and still maintain HDMI output.
The only issue I see is the dual screen thing. But many games I see on the 3DS don't really make much use of the second screen. Usually just displays options or just contains more controls. I am curious if there is way a to bypass this. Maybe it wouldn't be a direct port but something similar?
Sort of off-topic a bit but will developers be creating 3D games specifically for the EVO 3D available on the market?
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Mate it to an og evo via bluetooth and you have your second screen! [/problem]
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Hmmmmmmm........that would be pretty gangsta if it could be done. If you could also pair a WiiMote to it, then you'd be golden. If someone does it, I'd be interested.
"If you build it, they will come" immediately comes to mind. lol
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Eventually, I think yes.
bad idea overall. not sure things would run well, then there's the 2 screens issue and most importantly no dpad + buttons
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bad idea overall. not sure things would run well, then there's the 2 screens issue and most importantly no dpad + buttons
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A N64 has dpad + buttons and the emulator works fine on the EVO besides obviously being a little laggy. I think the processor of the EVO 3D can handle the 3DS games. Why do you say that things would not run well?
Because the 3ds has a more powerful GPU without having to emulate. The amount of raw processing power it would take to run isn't realistic.
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Because the 3ds has a more powerful GPU without having to emulate. The amount of raw processing power it would take to run isn't realistic.
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I figured if the single-core EVO can run N64 games then the dual core should be able of much greater things. However I do not know much about what kind of processor the 3DS has. I wonder which emulators we might see on the EVO 3D then.
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Because the 3ds has a more powerful GPU without having to emulate. The amount of raw processing power it would take to run isn't realistic.
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Lol, I read an article the other day stating the N64 only has a 100Mhz CPU? The EVO 3D will be 24x that speed, I sure hope N64oid will work good once the update hits.
BTW, there is a nds emulator on market (although it's pretty much 99% broken). It is completely possible to emulate a regular NDS w/ bluetooth wiimote as the controller, but the app shows the screen is portrait, cut horizontally down the middle. It has potential, but I don't think we'll see much compatibility with it anytime soon.
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Because the 3ds has a more powerful GPU without having to emulate. The amount of raw processing power it would take to run isn't realistic.
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3ds has a powerful gpu? i don't think that's right lol. It was originally though to have a tegra 2 but instead runs a PICA200, which I'm pretty sure can't hold a candle to our gpu
It isn't about the power differences between the systems, it's about how well one system can emulate the other.
You have to remember that during emulation, you are going to need multiple times more power, because you're still running your original device, with another one on top of it (essentially).
Without a device being tweaked specifically to emulate another, it requires massive amounts more power, not just being on par (or even above) the emulated device.
It would be nice if it could be done, but also as far as I know, there aren't even any 3DS ROMs available yet. It would be great if I could backup my 3DS games, even though I don't play many of them (got Zelda today, and burning through that like it's a rented game).
Would be better off porting some of the better(easier to port one screen games etc.) games than getting an emulator to run. I think.
There is an experimental one in the market last time I checked.
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The regular NDS emulator runs incredibly slow even playing games like pokemon run slow I can't imagine how the NDS 3d will run. But I'm pretty sure in time we will be able to play games like that. Maybe in 2 years from the way android and phones in general are advancing. The N64 runs smoothly if you over clock it to 1.5 ghz and up.
Well, in most cases, emulation of a non similar system requires at least 10 times the processing power of the original system. Example, the playstation one had a 33mhz CPU, so to effectively emulate it, you would need a 333mhz CPU. The 3DS had a 400mhz GPU and a CPU of a unknown clock speed, so you would in theory need at least a 4.0ghz duel core to emulate it.
Now these are rough estimates. If these were arm based CPUs, since most Android phones have arm CPUs and so does the original DS it, wouldn't be as steep of a requirement. And I'm sure there are some other factors I'm not aware of, since emulation of the Sega Saturn has been very difficult due to how unique the CPU, GPU, and sound processor were.
Just something to think about.
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Does the 3d have the power to possibly run a ps2 emulator?
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Of course, it can run Crysis at 37 fps...
Crysis! Where!
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Does the 3d have the power to possibly run a ps2 emulator?
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Having a dual core doesn't give make it able, emulation requires very high-end hardware. People with Quad-Cpus can't always get 60FPS and those are ahead of the Snapdragon. And I don't think a emu for it is available for Android yet.
It probably can run the same graphics, any good recommendations for hi def graphics games in the market ? The best looking game I have played in a mobile device is infinity blade for iPhone is amazing what epic developers did with it, I know is unreal engine but great I wish they would develop for android tho
I was just curious as im no tech genius. I know the n64 emu runs good and at one point a guy had android running a dreamcast emu and that was before all the new dual core cpus now.
Dual core speed freak
You can pretty much run an emu on whatever device... What comes into question is the quality of playing...
Can you run it and actually "play" a game smoothly.. and fps does relate to smoothness other stuff comes into play tho too,
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Won't be able to.
PS2 had some complicated hardware, very difficult to emulate correctly on different architectures. It's so complicated it's taken years for a decent one for the PC, which works ok but not that great, and this is on a quad core 64-bit machine with a decent gfx card, both of which Android devices do not have.
Don't expect any possible development for it to work well on current devices, dual core or not, it requires a lot of power and serious coding to emulate the PS2 architecture which was complicated to say the least.
Well I read somewhere that someone is working on a gamecube & Wii emulator for android & said everything is goin great. Now if we can emulate those 2 why can't we emulate ps2 I would think those would be hard to emulate. I also have to find where I read it at & I will post it here.
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Well I read somewhere that someone is working on a gamecube & Wii emulator for android & said everything is goin great.
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i read that the moon landing was fake and the holocaust never happned
well, with all the game devs porting games (gta3 for example, its a direct port of the pc version, you can stil use all the mods and cheats on it) i was wondering: how is it done, and can it be done for any game? well, there is one game which i would pay money for to have on my htc evo 3d: Star Wars: knights of the old republic. if anyone could port this or tell me how i could seriously give them money as i would lovelovelovelove this game on my evo 3d. any dev who could do it name a reasonable price, send me a video of you playing it at a normal speed, tell me how you did it, and ill pay you.
gta3 for example, its a direct port of the pc version, you can stil use all the mods and cheats on it
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It's not a direct port.
i was wondering: how is it done,
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Basically rebuilding the code to work with the Android system. Not easy, needs to be done from the ground up.
and can it be done for any game?
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I'm sure it's possible for any game, but you have to think about processing power. GTA3 was a ps2 game, released in 2001, and it can BARELY run on most android devices now.
well, there is one game which i would pay money for to have on my htc evo 3d: Star Wars: knights of the old republic. if anyone could port this or tell me how i could seriously give them money as i would lovelovelovelove this game on my evo 3d. any dev who could do it name a reasonable price, send me a video of you playing it at a normal speed, tell me how you did it, and ill pay you.
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One, as stated above, that game will probably never run on an android device. And two, you are asking a LOT. It would take a team of people months, if not over a year to get it working.
Have you tried installing a bochs emulator and installing the game on the image lol :-D
Be nice to see doom the original.
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Doom would probably be possible people already have it running on Playstation Portable if I remember correctly they even had Quake II working and I'd bet money the EVO 3d is more powerful than a PSP.
I had Doom running on my iPod Nano 1G with iPod Linux. Doom is possible and easy to port (from a developer's perspective) because it is open source and the game engine code is readily available. GTA III is closed-sourced. Rockstar did not port the game themselves; a different company did. Rockstar is the publisher and distributer.
Well, i could play the original KOTOR on a comp with much much much lower specs then my evo, and yes i tried bochs but it sucked. gta3 works swimmingly on my evo 3d, and its ported from the pc version not the ps2. thats why pc cheats work. so, as i said, any dev able could really earn some money.
Please stay on topic, i was talking about KOTOR not Doom.
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Doom would probably be possible people already have it running on Playstation Portable if I remember correctly they even had Quake II working and I'd bet money the EVO 3d is more powerful than a PSP.
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I used to play the old Doom on my MOTO ROKR E6. The phone was great with only 312Mhz Intel PXA 270 processor and 4MB RAM and 8MB internal memory. It was also able to play NES,SNES,PSX,GBA etc on full speed. Duke Nukem, couter strike and old DOOM were ported to it more than 4 years ago. It was also able to run some windows versions using DosBOX. The phone was expandable upto 2GB but a kernel made it to support 32GB sdcards as well...........
The only reason for such compatibility that I can think of is that all those apps were designed to make use of the CPUs full potential.
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Try Critical strike from Android games section.....works great.
I highly doubt that the 3Ds processor and GPU are powerful enough to handle games like StarWars.
The Xperia Ray with a single core @ 1GHz play GTA 3 flawlessly, but the Gta 3 lags like hell if we run it on the 3D with both cores @ 500Mhz (Same game DATA was used in both phones)
IMO Evo 3D @ one core will lose to single core Xperias......
Well, i could play the original KOTOR on a comp with much much much lower specs then my evo,
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But porting a game to another device often requires emulation, which requires about 2-3 times the processing power as the original game did.
So again, just to be clear, unless you have say $50,000 or more to pay a team of workers, this isn't going to happen.
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I used to play the old Doom on my MOTO ROKR E6. The phone was great with only 312Mhz Intel PXA 270 processor and 4MB RAM and 8MB internal memory. It was also able to play NES,SNES,PSX,GBA etc on full speed. Duke Nukem, couter strike and old DOOM were ported to it more than 4 years ago. It was also able to run some windows versions using DosBOX. The phone was expandable upto 2GB but a kernel made it to support 32GB sdcards as well...........
The only reason for such compatibility that I can think of is that all those apps were designed to make use of the CPUs full potential.
@Arthurln3D
Try Critical strike from Android games section.....works great.
I highly doubt that the 3Ds processor and GPU are powerful enough to handle games like StarWars.
The Xperia Ray with a single core @ 1GHz play GTA 3 flawlessly, but the Gta 3 lags like hell if we run it on the 3D with both cores @ 500Mhz (Same game DATA was used in both phones)
IMO Evo 3D @ one core will lose to single core Xperias......
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thats weird, my evo runs fine with gta 3. must be your evo. don't tell me that the evo runs gta bad, it runs it ine with me even at one [email protected], just tested. its definetly enough to run kotor. well, what do you have to do to port a game? how hard can it really be?
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But porting a game to another device often requires emulation, which requires about 2-3 times the processing power as the original game did.
So again, just to be clear, unless you have say $50,000 or more to pay a team of workers, this isn't going to happen.
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Well, show me a team and ill give them 50,000 dollars. no seriously, im sure that if i'd see someone capable i'd be able strike a deal. let me guess, all of you posting couldn't do it anyway. Well, does anyone know how whatever company rockstar paid to do it did it? even better, link me that company. do SOMETHING, don't just tell its impossible without naming reasonable reasons why.
Well, does anyone know how whatever company rockstar paid to do it did it?
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Contact Rockstar and find out, I did a search but couldn't find out how.
don't just tell its impossible without naming reasonable reasons why.
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I didn't say it was impossible, but it will be expensive just to create a game emulator for one person.
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yeah, i just looked at the market page and found out myself. i just asked them, and i hope i'll get a response soon, but to be honest, im pretty sure for some reason all my mail goes into the junk mail as some people have told me this has happened before.
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Please stay on topic, i was talking about KOTOR not Doom.
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Your title said windows games lol.. I was only throwin that out there since the games you listed are old ones
Which GTA are you talkin about? The old old one or the newest one? I know it would take awhile to build and port it over if you start from scratch on the touch input and everything else graphic wise...
Hey,
I recently saw somewhere (on XDA) post that PS Vita has similiar hardware as smartphones that are coming pretty much now (SGS III, powerd by Tegra3 etc.). So is there a possibility for making such emulator? I know that it won't provide similiar gameplay as with hardware buttons on PSV but some games propably would still be playable without them (or with less) like racing games etc.)
I'm just asking for technical side of this task and if there is someone who plans to try and make one?
impossible.
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Probably in 30 years or so, if you want my honest guess.
And not on a smartphone but on a home pc.
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Hey,
I recently saw somewhere (on XDA) post that PS Vita has similiar hardware as smartphones that are coming pretty much now (SGS III, powerd by Tegra3 etc.). So is there a possibility for making such emulator? I know that it won't provide similiar gameplay as with hardware buttons on PSV but some games propably would still be playable without them (or with less) like racing games etc.)
I'm just asking for technical side of this task and if there is someone who plans to try and make one?
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I guess for now still impossible to do. Even PS1 emulator on android is still not perfect enough to play all PS1 game.
So, still long way to make PS Vita emulator on android
Agreed.
I have a hard time getting my Atari ST emulator to run.
Cheers.!
Yep, i was more like porting Vita systems to android or something then emulator but if it's still impossible, thats ok
Would be pretty much impossible considering that the vita is almost as powerful as the ps3 - (already has more ram)
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Would be pretty much impossible considering that the vita is almost as powerful as the ps3 - (already has more ram)
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vita isnt even close to PS3
GS3 has pretty much same vital specs and has more ram than vita
No it isn't you have to understand that processors in a phone are not close to having the same power as a dedicated games device. The vita has a quad core processor and another quad core for the graphics
It has 512mb of ram and another 128mb vram this is much more than the ps3
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sorry i misread though it was a normal SGX543
And a psp emulator?
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And a psp emulator?
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Its the same situation. Because it uses dedicated hardware.
Even the Nintendo DS emulator lags on high end Smart phones
Cheers.
it generally takes YEARS for an emulator to be developed for a console and the first place it will appear is on a PC.
Besides, can you imagine trying to cram all the controls for a Vita onto one touchscreen? Yeesh....
I know this is an old thread but it has also copped a lot of wrong answers.
To all of those people saying that it's impossible and that PS1 emulators have barely been perfected and blah blah blah. I will say this now: The PS1 has a completely different architecture to any Android phone/tablet (apart from MIPS ones, which are very rare.) The Vita on the other hand has a CPU with an ARM architecture, which nearly all Android devices have, the Vita itself needs to be hacked for all of the API's and the OS to be emulated but that will probably be the hardest part (apart from emulating the Graphics chip and other complex hardware.) It should be a similar task to emulating Windows programs on Linux and Mac with Wine, or emulating different x86 OSes on x86 hardware, this is also the reason that I think iOS can be emulated but nobody wants to do it because Apple will find a reason to sue them (a reason why I have never bought an Apple product and hopefully never will.)
The message here is to be an optimist, never say impossible and good things will follow, possibly in the form of a Vita emulator on Android or an iOS emulator.
Yeah Seriously
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I know this is an old thread but it has also copped a lot of wrong answers.
To all of those people saying that it's impossible and that PS1 emulators have barely been perfected and blah blah blah. I will say this now: The PS1 has a completely different architecture to any Android phone/tablet (apart from MIPS ones, which are very rare.) The Vita on the other hand has a CPU with an ARM architecture, which nearly all Android devices have, the Vita itself needs to be hacked for all of the API's and the OS to be emulated but that will probably be the hardest part (apart from emulating the Graphics chip and other complex hardware.) It should be a similar task to emulating Windows programs on Linux and Mac with Wine, or emulating different x86 OSes on x86 hardware, this is also the reason that I think iOS can be emulated but nobody wants to do it because Apple will find a reason to sue them (a reason why I have never bought an Apple product and hopefully never will.)
The message here is to be an optimist, never say impossible and good things will follow, possibly in the form of a Vita emulator on Android or an iOS emulator.
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lol 30 years, honestly you can expect an emulator within 10 years of the system release date, if we had dedicated users, I'm sure it get could quicker but it's not "impossible" as PPSSPP, a PSP emulator was recently released on the google store, which runs games PERFECTLY on PC or Mac, it's pretty laggy on my S3-i747m but what games you would expect to run nicely do, of course.
I'm sure newer phones run it smoothly but PSVita games will probably be emulated when the "hype" dies out...
So basically if your asking, can i screw mobile gaming and just buy a phone and bootleg the systems and possibly even play with friends? No.
Can you expect to relive your classics games after you've played them on a legit PSVita in 5-10 years on your Samsung S9 with 16core graphics? Yeah most likely depending on how laws go with the GNU/OSI and how pissed off company's get that they're old ass systems get emulated.
At-least that has been the trend since Atari
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There's a PSP emulator that's called PPSSPP
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There's a PSP emulator that's called PPSSPP
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If I can run kingdom hearts birth by sleep flawlessly on my Nexus 4 then vita emulation sounds very probable in the next couple of years
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vita isnt even close to PS3
GS3 has pretty much same vital specs and has more ram than vita
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Actually Vita is 3 cores away from PS3 but similar ;D
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Actually Vita is 3 cores away from PS3 but similar ;D
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That dont mean anything a lot more involved than just core count
ps vita emulation is possible but i think it will only run on high end phones...also ps vita is already jailbreakable but not as perfect as psp....
Good morning everyone...
Can anyone recommend a way to run SoulCalibur on my TF300? I've got the original ROM from the arcade version and I also purchased the Sega Dreamcast version. Considering that the Tegra 3 is so ridiculously powerful I expect there must be a way to run it...
I downloaded Mame4droid Reloaded but it didn't like the sound, and even with sound turned off it still runs at maybe 1/3 original speed. I expect that this is because of emulation, but honestly the original clock speed was what... 100 MHz? How can emulating that be so hard?
Thank you SOOOO much for your answer. My MAME dedicated PC went poof last night and I'm going through serious withdrawl.
Dave
If noone has a good solution maybe this could be my next project lol.
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Needs CPU power, since the 3d is emulated and not true hardware doing it in MAME.
Dead or Alive is also slow using MAME. Plenty of games run normal speed, but almost all 3d games are slow. Too many proprietary 3d hardware platforms to emulate, hence all done with CPU. Very inefficient as a result.
You hit on it though, since to emulate any 3d game, it will need a 3d wrap made specifically for the game hardware used for 3d in the game.
Hey guys, this is probably a noob question but it's been a long week.
I've got fpse on my phone and I want to play playstation games with it. However, the game keeps hopping between 40fps and 20fps. I know that's nonsense because I could get it steady at 60fps on both my old galaxy tab 10.1 and my epic touch.
So, my question is, what are the optimal settings that I need to enable/disable in order to get 60fps. I know the processor can handle it, lesser processors already have.
Thanks
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Hey guys, this is probably a noob question but it's been a long week.
I've got fpse on my phone and I want to play playstation games with it. However, the game keeps hopping between 40fps and 20fps. I know that's nonsense because I could get it steady at 60fps on both my old galaxy tab 10.1 and my epic touch.
So, my question is, what are the optimal settings that I need to enable/disable in order to get 60fps. I know the processor can handle it, lesser processors already have.
Thanks
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Change frameskip to auto. But my suggestion is get a ps1. I've grown to loathe emulation, especially on phones. Touch controls suck and I know about using a ps3 controller.
It still sucks and looks weird playing games that won't work right because its emulated and on a tiny screen. Yes you can use the media link or mhl, but if your going through all that trouble why not get the console and hook it up. The cost of all that jazz is more expensive than the actual system plus games anyway.
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Change frameskip to auto. But my suggestion is get a ps1. I've grown to loathe emulation, especially on phones. Touch controls suck and I know about using a ps3 controller.
It still sucks and looks weird playing games that won't work right because its emulated and on a tiny screen. Yes you can use the media link or mhl, but if your going through all that trouble why not get the console and hook it up. The cost of all that jazz is more expensive than the actual system plus games anyway.
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Hahaha thank you for your response. The frameskip did most of the work...changing my governor to something other than "conservative" did the rest.
Happily, I actually already have a MHL cable (I use my phone to watch live hockey games...when there isn't a lockout) and a PS3 controller, so I actually do use it as a console. My gf has a PS1 and has a few fun games for it, but I just enough the experience. I do have to play on mute, because sound never seems to work right.