I know that we all are used to having mods to AOSP Roms for our phones but has anyone thought about what the devs will be able to do once HTC releases the SDK for Sense? They already said that the libraries for 3D will be included so I think that we will see some interesting things from this. Optimized sense builds with 3D features added, etc?
It really depends on how much they will release on what we will be able to do with it.
i'm thinking 3d boobie widgets and lots of them!
Its an SDK, so if made correctly, just more packages you can import into Eclipse or your favorite Java IDE. Strictly for Sense apps, to utilize Sense features. Nice because it sorta forces some UI guidelines.
I guess its cool, but putting those apps on the market makes them very HTC only / Sense only / some minimum version of Sense required... That will alienate many potential users / downloads / customers if you will.
In general its good, but this could definitely lead to some sort of HTC App store (might already exist???). And honestly, I would kinda have mixed feelings about that.
We shall see what happens.
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Well it's easy to target specific sense version phones when publishing to the market
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Well it's easy to target specific sense version phones when publishing to the market
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My point is you screw over Samsung, Motorola, Sony, etc... phone owners because they will not be able to use your app because they don't have Sense.
Its like making a site with Flash content. My rule on that is : only if I ****ing have to. I would prefer HTML solutions (anything standards based like with jQuery effects instead or whatever)
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more then likely work will be uploaded to htc hub
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But they won't be able to see the app on the market
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I was wondering if it was possible to install these on my amaze. My Flyer running Honeycomb is able to use them. If I can use them could someone post a link to them and if they aren't out there, is anyone willing to modify them to work on the Amaze?
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Anyone?
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you can download Gmail app and google talk app from the market. as for the calendar apk. someone has to post the file..
edit: nevermind your talking about Ics...In that case I don't know.
To the best of my knowledge it won't work; though I wasn't aware that they worked on honeycomb. Honeycomb is really almost a very rough draft of Ics so I guess that makes sense.
Gingerbread is vastly different and I am about 100% sure it won't. They use a different framework that gingerbread just doesn't have.
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Alright thanks, do you know if it's possible to implement the part of the ICS framework they need to run?
When I try to install the apks it gives me a parsing error, is that due to the framework problem?
Could this maybe get moved to the Apps forum or the Development forum, whichever it fits in. I figure I might get more help/answers from there.
I've tried to install apks from ics roms I've downloaded and they all say parse error
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They'll never work because they require API elements introduced in 4.0 to function properly.
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They'll never work because they require API elements introduced in 4.0 to function properly.
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But they work in 3.2 so does 3.2 have the same API?
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But they work in 3.2 so does 3.2 have the same API?
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Cause 3.2 was what 4.0 built off of. 2.3 is very far gone from android 3.x... And even further gone from 4.0, at least in layman's terms.
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Hey folks, as some of the custom ROMs for our eLTEvo's have -
a) removed Swype, and therefore removed a relatively easy way to switch keyboards (why did you do it this way HTC, why?)
and/or
b) the notification based switcher
I created a quick app, for those needing it, that I built in Tasker. Install it like any other application. When you run it, you should get the pop-up selection list of the keyboards you have installed.
Tested on CleanROM BE 2.1, and an HTC One-S running CM10/JellyBean (pre-Alpha).
Dev's - feel free to include this in your ROMs if you like. A shout-out would be appreciated. Thanks to Zach D. for testing, to Pent for creating Tasker, and Everaldo and The Crystal Project for the app icon.
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i can already switch keyboards while typing.....
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i can already switch keyboards while typing.....
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Hi. Thanks for stopping by!
Some of the custom ROMs for our devices have "lost" the ability to easily switch keyboards, hence this app.
Regards,
-Jerry
Very nice! Thanks
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Very nice! Thanks
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You're most welcome, sir! (as usual )
Which roms are custom roms?
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Which roms are custom roms?
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Well, the definition depends on your point-of-view...
a) Solely for the purpose of this app, any ROM that has been modified to remove keyboard switching functionality.
b) If you ask a Sprint rep, any ROM that didn't come on the phone, from the factory.
c) Basically, most of the ROMs in these 2 threads, even if they have "stock" in the name -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1594
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1686
d) For further definitions, you could ask a (in alphabetical order)
1) Chuck Norris (if you dare)
2) Computer science major
3) Priest
4) Rabbi
5) ROM chef
6) ROM developer
7) Shaman
8) Witch doctor
Sorry, couldn't resist item "d", but it's partially the product of having a shot of espresso in my 3rd coffee of the morning... :silly:
Anyway, thanks for asking, as you've made me realize I built the app to only install on ICS or higher. It should work OK on Gingerbread and up if I make a simple change and rebuild it...
Thanks for sharing. It's beyond me why some devs remove this functionality. Are you sure it's linked to removing swype? I see you kind of blame HTC for the switcher, but I first noticed the notification toggle when running AOKP in my OG Evo, which I'm pretty certain didn't come with swype, and fully certain had no HTC/sense coding, so I assumed it was just new to Android 4.0+
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Thanks for sharing. It's beyond me why some devs remove this functionality. Are you sure it's linked to removing swype? I see you kind of blame HTC for the switcher, but I first noticed the notification toggle when running AOKP in my OG Evo, which I'm pretty certain didn't come with swype, and fully certain had no HTC/sense coding, so I assumed it was just new to Android 4.0+
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You're most welcome. I believe some devs have removed it due to user requests or as part of bloat removal (at least from what I've read, I'm subscribed all over the eLTEvo dev place... ).
As far as Swype goes - on a stock(ish) ROM, that is where you go to (via settings), in order to switch keyboards. It's the topmost button in the Swype settings. Why HTC put it there is a mystery to me... ...but I'm not blaming them.
As far as removing the notification icon, that's a totally separate mod. As to where it originated, I have no idea. Never looked at AOKP when I was still on my OG Evo - I ran either MikG or CM7, and I don't recall seeing that in CM7. Go figure...
You wouldn't have seen it on CM7 cuz that was android 2.3. But I had it on AOKP on Evo 4g, which didn't have swype or any HTC stuff. So I'm pretty sure it's just native to Android 4.0+.
Just my thoughts. I had to pop in to redownload your app cuz I lost my Evo and actually had to buy a new one. So once again, big big thanks to you.
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You wouldn't have seen it on CM7 cuz that was android 2.3. But I had it on AOKP on Evo 4g, which didn't have swype or any HTC stuff. So I'm pretty sure it's just native to Android 4.0+.
Just my thoughts. I had to pop in to redownload your app cuz I lost my Evo and actually had to buy a new one. So once again, big big thanks to you.
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You're most welcome. FWIW, I've got Lookout on 4 devices... worthwhile!
Considered lookout on this one. There's quite a few in the market. Can't decide which is best. Never used one before, after paying 600$ for a phone, I def will now lol
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Is it possible? I am really missing the group messing that sense integrates.
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All the Sense apps rely on the Sense framework. It's not possible to use them outside of Sense.
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All the Sense apps rely on the Sense framework. It's not possible to use them outside of Sense.
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I had a feeling that was going to be the answer. Thanks for the response.
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Actually it is possible. JsChiSurf did it for a few of the sense apps on the Evo 4G if I remember correctly. All it should take is moving the dependencies out of the HTC framework, moving it into the specific apk, and rewriting (in smali) the code to pull those resources from the apk. Not an easy task by any means, but it is possible.
Thread here.
It'll be easier once we perform some espionage to get sense source..
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With ubuntu released, is it possible to take it from the nexus devices over to here?
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No, its gsm based at the moment. So until its cdma. We can't use it
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They have it ported on sprint gnex but I believe no data or something like that
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They have it ported on sprint gnex but I believe no data or something like that
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I really want to test it I kinda want it as a daily driver looks awesome plus ubuntu is amazing.
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Once the cdma issue is fixed it should be rather easy porting since it uses cm10.1 as a base...
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I must say, having tested it first hand that it is very ... interesting. I do like the OS itself, it's fluid and the best part is the pulldown settings (view video here if you don't know what I'm talking about) makes things much faster.
All that being said, it's clearly a very early build. There are a lot of bugs and it's clearly targeted towards developers and geeks like us. It is not ready for use as a daily driver (unless you like that sort of adventure). Also the lacks of apps at the moment really hurts it. I can't live without my basic apps (titanium backup and tasker).
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I must say, having tested it first hand that it is very ... interesting. I do like the OS itself, it's fluid and the best part is the pulldown settings (view video here if you don't know what I'm talking about) makes things much faster.
All that being said, it's clearly a very early build. There are a lot of bugs and it's clearly targeted towards developers and geeks like us. It is not ready for use as a daily driver (unless you like that sort of adventure). Also the lacks of apps at the moment really hurts it. I can't live without my basic apps (titanium backup and tasker).
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Like ubuntu for pc's then. More geared towards geeks like us v
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Like ubuntu for pc's then. More geared towards geeks like us v
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Ubuntu for pcs is aimed more towards your average Joe. The real geeky Linux is something like arch or slackware lol
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Yes it is as it takes cm as a base however they currently do not support cdma function as of right now but that will change. So the answer is yes it can be ported but u will not have any cellphone usuage which is y no-one is porting it here yet. I think Leo might be the only one but Idk if he has started yet or if he will port it hopefully he does since I wana try it
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I really hope that we can get ubuntu working, it is way better than android for sure
So since we have s-off and we'll be able to use the ruu or just flash a zip (hopefully) who here will be dumping sense and going with aosp? I will probably jump back and forth. What about you guys?
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Nah, I like and prefer the look of sense and the older weather flip clock. It'd be nice to get the updates straight from Google tho. I'm hopeful in the near future the UI from sense and others will just be a skin that we can apply to an official Google device.
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Depends on how much the camera is crippled in AOSP, but I'm certainly going to try it out.
<3 AOSP but the camera software will bet the deal breaker if any.
They said that it will produce comparable images to the Sense version, but obviously stuff like Zoes won't make it over to the AOSP camera. Really interested in trying it out, particularly when it comes to the current AOSP based ROMs and how it will improve them.
I like that it'll have beats all the time.
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I just wish the firmware would leak. None of my friends who work at google have access to the android stuff.
The camera issues is what's keeping me from AOSP as it is, I'm ok with losing Zoe but if it can get close to Sense's camera quality, I'll bite.
I've never used zoe.
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The camera issues is what's keeping me from AOSP as it is, I'm ok with losing Zoe but if it can get close to Sense's camera quality, I'll bite.
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They already said that the GE One will fully utilize the ultra pixel sensors. So no worries there.
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They already said that the GE One will fully utilize the ultra pixel sensors. So no worries there.
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That's good to know then,
I really like the look of sense so idk
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Yeah it's one of the biggest reasons I bought a One :good:
I picked the One over the S4 mainly because I find sense a lot more tolerable compared to TouchWiz though (especially with nova launcher and google keyboard) - until the GE is out.
Already dumped Sense, running CM.
Is there already any announcements if Google will make the rom available to everyone who wants to install it? Can't wait to get sense out of my phone.
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I really like the look of sense so idk
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I certainly agree with that. I switched from an inspire and miss sense quite a bit. I plan to come back when it's possible.
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My concern is with the IR blaster. Will I be able to use it even with a third party app?
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My concern is with the IR blaster. Will I be able to use it even with a third party app?
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There are already 3rd party apps that can use the IR port. There's one in the International HTC One app forum:
[APP][IR] ONE To Remote Them All [3000+ Codes]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271113
If HTC incorperates the drivers for it.
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There are already 3rd party apps that can use the IR port. There's one in the International HTC One app forum:
[APP][IR] ONE To Remote Them All [3000+ Codes]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2271113
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Unfortunately that doesn't do us much good if there's no support in the firmware
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