Hey guys just wanted to share that according to this http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...-lte-network?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter Sprint and LightSquared will be providing 4G LTE.
What do you guys think will happen with us Wimax 4G customers when they start providing LTE?
I personally think that by then our contract will be near to be ending and we'll be getting early upgrades for our LTE phones but it might be earlier you never know...
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And posted here since we will have the 3VO which is Wimax 4G...
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yankele said:
Hey guys just wanted to share that according to this http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...-lte-network?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter Sprint and LightSquared will be providing 4G LTE.
What do you guys think will happen with us Wimax 4G customers when they start providing LTE?
I personally think that by then our contract will be near to be ending and we'll be getting early upgrades for our LTE phones but it might be earlier you never know...
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By the time lte is up and running you will be on the next version if the 3d....and even then there will be both wimax and lte. So you have plenty if time till they get that up and running.
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This thread already exists in this forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129502
Also, the next generation of Qualcomm's processors have 3G/LTE support. I doubt we'll see this network up and running while these phones are still relevant. So during your next phone purchase, it might be important.
Just read an article about lightsquared 4g lte. It said something about using 10mghz block. What does that mean to us and if the are referring to spectrum wjat does that mean as far as building penetration and speeds?
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Now that wimax is pretty dead with the new LTE contract, does that make my new 3VO obsolete?
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Short answer : no.
Why? Two words : backlash.
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sprint will not be instantly switching to lte, the network still needs to be rolled out, it will probably be a few years time, all the while wimax will still be active. im sure wimax devices will start to get phased out before lte is ready to launch.
When Sprint switches to LTE will we be able to use Sprint phones on Verizon and vice versa, and have data?
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babyschoof said:
Now that wimax is pretty dead with the new LTE contract, does that make my new 3VO obsolete?
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yes, return your phone.
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babyschoof said:
Now that wimax is pretty dead with the new LTE contract, does that make my new 3VO obsolete?
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Nope your phone is not going to be obsolete and wimax will be upgraded to LTE. All they have to do is swap a baseband card on their end and an OTA update for the phone.
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babyschoof said:
Now that wimax is pretty dead with the new LTE contract, does that make my new 3VO obsolete?
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Answer, no.. clearwire, which is the 4g Wimax, is going to piggy back off of Sprint with the LTE, which basically means that clearwire is going LTE too so the phones should work on there bands for 4g
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EricSS619 said:
yes, return your phone.
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Wiley_11 said:
Nope your phone is not going to be obsolete and wimax will be upgraded to LTE. All they have to do is swap a baseband card on their end and an OTA update for the phone.
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that is to upgrade the towers to broadcast lte, our wimax radio will not receive lte. someone prove me wrong...
its my understanding after reading everything that lightsquared had a deal to use sprints network for its lte deployment and 3g roaming, they are paying sprint the money, not the other way around
Lol... People think that sprints deploying LTE when they getting money from litesquared in exchange for them using their network for testing and deploying _their_ LTE.
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DoctorComrade and NewZJ are quite correct. If you read the press release about it made by Sprint (Found here: http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1989) Sprint entered an agreement with LightSquared to deploy LTE basestations on Sprint's towers. This is because it is significantly cheaper for LightSquared compared to deploying their own towers and network.
With this agreement, Sprint has the option to purchase bandwidth from LightSquared in the future, if they decide to.
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DoctorComrade and NewZJ are quite correct. If you read the press release about it made by Sprint (Found here: http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1989) Sprint entered an agreement with LightSquared to deploy LTE basestations on Sprint's towers. This is because it is significantly cheaper for LightSquared compared to deploying their own towers and network.
With this agreement, Sprint has the option to purchase bandwidth from LightSquared in the future, if they decide to.
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When Sprint switches to LTE will we be able to use Sprint phones on Verizon and vice versa, and have data?
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From what I have read, no. As I understand it, the frequencies used for LTE and WiMax are part of the old analog TV spectrum. When the US switched to digital all those frequencies were auctioned off. Different carriers now own different parts of the spectrum and their phones need chips tuned to those particular frequencies. The lower end of the spectrum has the best building penetration and sold for the most money, that's the part that Verizon bought. As for whether they can make chips that switch depending on strongest signal, I don't know. As for whether cell providers will make deals allowing roaming on each others LTE networks, I don't know. As I said I could be wrong about this whole thing, this is just my understanding from the info I've read on the subject.
Wimax is 2000+ mhz, Verizon LTE is 700ish mhz
So no roaming, Wimax was said to be its upgradable to LTE via ota push
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wimax and lte can be any frequency, verizon happens to have approval for ~750, att ~700, sprint ~2400. fcc must approve the usage and sprint neither has the approval or spectrum to do it lower unless they give up iden (~800-850) and then get approval but nextel ptt is still popular
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Wimax is 2000+ mhz, Verizon LTE is 700ish mhz
So no roaming, Wimax was said to be its upgradable to LTE via ota push
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I'm pretty sure the frequency for LTE is dependent on the frequencies each carrier has purchased the rights to. I believe the reason WiMax is 2000+ and Verizon LTE is 700 is because that's the part of the spectrum that each company owns, not some inherent requirement for each technology.
Edit: NewZJ beat me to it.
I just read that clearwire is partnering with China Mobile to get the new technology TD-LTE which is good news for sprint but bad news for customers who have a phone that supports Wimax... We spend 10 dollars extra to get Wimax and I don't get a damn signal in San Diego... Sprint is ripping us off and then they'll switch to TD-LTE and we'll all have to pay for a new phone!!!!
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newalker91 said:
If you think you're paying $10/month for WiMax then I don't think you should be posting any sort of rants.
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Lmfao............
You can be assured Sprint will be getting an angry call from me when my new Photon's 4G becomes unsupported.
i thought the Photon has a hidden lte feature in it? i was reading in the forums something about Rev B could be activated with a update.........
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i thought the Photon has a hidden lte feature in it? i was reading in the forums something about Rev B could be activated with a update.........
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Rev B != LTE
However, I have looked through a few things on the phone and noticed tons of references to LTE. Also several references to Verizon...some people aren't very good about cleaning up behind them selves.
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Rev B != LTE
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where's your source for this statement ??
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If you think you're paying $10/month for WiMax then I don't think you should be posting any sort of rants.
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^ +1 lmao
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where's your source for this statement ??
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Don't need a source, EVDO Rev. B is just another form of CDMA 3G, that could bring us 10mb speeds on CDMA, it partners with 1Xrtt advanced which should allow us to have greater call quality and data at the same time, more like a GSM networks current capabilities . LTE is a whole nother network technology.
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I thought that lte doesn't function right with tegra 2 processors. Isn't that why the bionic was taken back to the drawing board then re-introduced with the Ti-Omap processor, if this is true the photon wouldn't be that great as a lte device. I could be wrong
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Better work with tegra or XOOM owners are screwed.
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Ain't it a new version that came out with the lte chips?
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Only difference im aware of is the radio.
And last I heard they had started upgrading test groups.
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I was looking through the build prop n I noticed we have lte files in our build prop, idk why people are soo worried about sprints changes soon...
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That build.prop was taken and edited from a verizon device. That's why it also has so many references to VZW.
That is not a reliable source right now as to whether or not the phone has LTE.
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Annnnd another one, when you have an Offical statement from Motorola themselves that's when ill believe it. Same with ICS. Time will only tell. If they do release a statement it would be closer to the launch of lte if you think about it because sprint doesn't want to say oh yeah this one is ready for lte then it would be hurting sales for the others that don't have lte in it. Motos demand would sky rocket on sprint and that new shiny iphone would never be sold lmao
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I agree with that.
Smh...first person to look at the build. prop were ya?
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More importantly, forget anything you find on the phone.
The phone simply isn't certified for use with LTE, either from lightsquared or from (proposed LTE from) clearwire. Check the FCC certifications, they are public.
Even if Motorola releases an LTE Photon, it would be a different photon that has gone through the FCC certification process meaning you would have to rebuy the phone or Sprint would have to recall/replace the current Photons (highly unlikely).
I remember hearing when the 3d first came out that the Evo 3d had capability for lye as if sprint was planning on upgrading to lye I was wondering if there was a way you revs could activate the lye that we supposidly have because Idk like todo roam onto Verizon's lte that walkersville MD has...
Im sorry for misspelling lte with lye bk8 kept autocorrecting me...
sorry, but the Evo doesn't have LTE capabilities... there was talk of the chipset supporting it, but the phone does not have the required hardware (antennas, etc.)
Thanks froth the quick reply , is there any way I can add the hardware in because my parents love to take the modem with them places and 4g would be so much better on my ps3 then Verizon 3g
Just to confirm, I asked htc directly and they said there was no lte capability in the EVO 3D.
Installing a radio to support it? No clue but you'd probably have to program the OS and radio software to use it too
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I don't know anything about installing radios or making the ps support just wondering if it was possible... Thanks for the replyz guys
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I don't know anything about installing radios or making the ps support just wondering if it was possible... Thanks for the replyz guys
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For all intents and purposes, modifying the hardware is not possible.
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...and it sucks that sprint got rid of the premier accounts of upgrading phones once a year. I love my phone but I wish it was compatible with lte
I think we should all petition for them to allow us to get lte enabled phones or upgrade our existing ones to support lte when they launch. We got screwed out of 4G. Verizon was able to upgrade the xoom for lte afterall.
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gk1984 said:
I think we should all petition for them to allow us to get lte enabled phones or upgrade our existing ones to support lte when they launch. We got screwed out of 4G. Verizon was able to upgrade the xoom for lte afterall.
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Definately I agree. I've been with sprint for like 13 or more years now. Being a long time customer I should be able to take advantage of LTE when it does come out. Any idea when that will be?
I know this is a fairly new thread, but had anyone found any forum or sprint contact point to make formal request / petition for LTE upgrade?
I would love to get on board. I've been paying 4g data premium since I got the evo 4g, and other than a couple days in Chicago, new York, and Charlotte, it's been a waste.
Sad but it is tempting me to take my 5 phone lines to Verizon.
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Why does t Sprint just continue to build their wimax network? Merge or buyout clearwire and continue with what they already got?
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Dont even get me started
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Dont even get me started
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Ok just stay out of it then lol
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MikeyLee said:
Dont even get me started
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im with you. we beat this horse enough!
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because sprint has their own lte network? lightsquared was just a regional addon
Thanks, Shabbs! Yay, hopefully it gets LTE Approval, do you know if it has already?
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The point of lightsquared was to broadcast lte from satellites. Was essentially going to give them near 100% coverage in the us with the flip of a switch.
If they are out of the picture then we are back to getting 4g from towers which will take years. To build out.
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i read from some recent articles, Lightsquared has been stating a pretty solid argument (in my opinion) that the first test was purposely rigged, a board member on fcc or somethin was from a GPS company, they used old out dated gps devices that was being interfered with because of careless manufacturing (faulty design) fcc took it to courts/congress to help investigate while also redoing the testing of their network and gps interference
i probably left a lot out ill try to find links
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Sounded like a Bull**** deal
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Wimax is limited next to Lte
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Cltme89 said:
Wimax is limited next to Lte
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Sprint is limited
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rruss said:
Why does t Sprint just continue to build their wimax network? Merge or buyout clearwire and continue with what they already got?
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Haha because Wimax blows and I would rather rely on Sprint to build out a 4G network than Clearwire to execute a 4G plan. We all know how Clearwire did with Wimax and lets just say its not complete. Also I would rather have Sprint on a 4G standard that is compliant to every other major carrier and follows the 3GPP standard and plus LTE is much better than Wimax.
Also I am tired of the 2.5 Ghz poor indoor penetration spectrum. I would rather have Sprint's 800 and 1900 Mhz spectrum for LTE and only rely on Clearwire for supplemental LTE capacity instead of relying entirely on Clearwire. I hope Clearwire succeeds and becomes really profitable because that just means that Sprint will be more profitable since it owns a 54% stake.
Maybe when clearwire is profitable they can begin to start expanding again but I don't see this happening until 2015-2016 at the very earliest but they need to focus on getting back into the black.
Light squared may be doomed but sprint still had clear. They are worth a hell of a lot more now since Verizon's huge priced spectrum buy a few months ago. They were set to be gobbled up by sprint but now the value of their spectrum is greater than sprints market cap. Having spent some time with a network engineer for clear, they aren't doing as bad as people think. Sprint will probably end up with much more spectrum than att has now for lte at least with their partnership. Clear will contract out bandwidth to many companies though. You have to remember that even Verizon is pretty limited and will face some problems as lte is more widely adopted. They have only about 10-15mhz of bandwidth.
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