1) If I freeze twlauncher and have no other launcher will I get the stock android launcher or will my phone be very,very confused?
2) Does anyone have a list of freezable apps because I have like 10 frozen but I don't know if I can freeze anymore and I don't want to freeze apps that I am not supposed to...
3) Assuming we get gingerbread soon, as promised but Samsung is..., do I need to deroot to download the OTA update?
I do not want to flash a custom rom so please don't recommend that.
Thanks
cking122 said:
1) If I freeze twlauncher and have no other launcher will I get the stock android launcher or will my phone be very,very confused?
2) Does anyone have a list of freezable apps because I have like 10 frozen but I don't know if I can freeze anymore and I don't want to freeze apps that I am not supposed to...
3) Assuming we get gingerbread soon, as promised but Samsung is..., do I need to deroot to download the OTA update?
I do not want to flash a custom rom so please don't recommend that.
Thanks
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I'm not sure what you can freeze, but you'll need to unroot to do OTA.
cking122 said:
1) If I freeze twlauncher and have no other launcher will I get the stock android launcher or will my phone be very,very confused?
2) Does anyone have a list of freezable apps because I have like 10 frozen but I don't know if I can freeze anymore and I don't want to freeze apps that I am not supposed to...
3) Assuming we get gingerbread soon, as promised but Samsung is..., do I need to deroot to download the OTA update?
I do not want to flash a custom rom so please don't recommend that.
Thanks
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1- you need to install a different launcher first
2- freezing any bloat is fine.
3- no need to remove root for ota to work, however, you will lose root when you get an ota and you must unfreeze everything to ensure the ota installs properly
Dalamar1320 said:
1- you need to install a different launcher first
2- freezing any bloat is fine.
3- no need to remove root for ota to work, however, you will lose root when you get an ota and you must unfreeze everything to ensure the ota installs properly
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For 1 is there a list of what is "bloat" becuase i have frozen certain things before (my installer and voice commands) and then the phone doesn't work right and keeps force closing applications that aren't there as they are frozen...
sorry buddy, I haven't run a bloated rom in a long time so I don't know what is safe to freeze, but just be smart about it. example. need for speed crappy demo. freeze. something that sounds important like voice commands. don't freeze.
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I am ready to install the latest update to my x2, but i am currently rooted and have the pulldown toggle zip and crt animation on my device, as well as the supercharger script, i know its very easy to remove the supercharger script,but would the crt or pulldown effect the install? Anyone encountered this issue yet?
thanks for the help.
amancini92292 said:
I am ready to install the latest update to my x2, but i am currently rooted and have the pulldown toggle zip and crt animation on my device, as well as the supercharger script, i know its very easy to remove the supercharger script,but would the crt or pulldown effect the install? Anyone encountered this issue yet?
thanks for the help.
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In order for you to update your gonna have to sbf back to 2.3.3 if that's what your on. If not, then the update will fail because of the root. You will be able to update once you sbf & wipe data in stock recovery as well just to be safe. Hope that helps
Edit: this is for if you are trying to get the ota...sorry I should clarified that first
thanks for the help that basically clears it all up, seeing as im fairly happy with it right now im going to leave well enough alone, when they roll out a bigger update i will consider it, thats what i figured i was going to have to do.
amancini92292 said:
thanks for the help that basically clears it all up, seeing as im fairly happy with it right now im going to leave well enough alone, when they roll out a bigger update i will consider it, thats what i figured i was going to have to do.
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Just use titanium backup then and back to stock, do the update and reload ur apps. Takes all of about an hour, tops.
Droid X2 - Eclipse v1.0
yeah i have all of that done already, i might give it a try, thanks
Rp...I don't think it will fail just due to root. U WILLA lose ur root.
It most likely WILL fail due to the mods/or rom u run due to missing files that are necessary.
if u are stock rooted I think it would work...but either way good idea to go back bone stock just to avoid any issues altogether
im running the completely stock rom, removing the script i have isnt an issue what so ever, is there any way to remove installed zips that were installed in the recovery?
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Rp...I don't think it will fail just due to root. U WILLA lose ur root.
It most likely WILL fail due to the mods/or rom u run due to missing files that are necessary.
if u are stock rooted I think it would work...but either way good idea to go back bone stock just to avoid any issues altogether
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True always better to be safe than sorry
if your on stock and you want to return your animations to stock you could possibly extract framework-res.apk from /system/framework/ of the stock gingerbread and push it via adb to your phone or you could use root explorer to do so as well. that should erase your mods to animations. and you'll most likely have to reboot after. but animations should retrun to stock after, than unroot and take the ota. but its never a bad idea just to go to bone stock via sbf as rp076 suggested
For taking off the toggles u can just flash the stock notification zip from one of those threads I think it is there somewhere. Or ask the creator of the toggle zip u flashed for the stock one...
But ur safest bet is sbf and data wipe. It's not hard to do at all and is just a good thing to know how to do
I recovered my stock rooted backup from eclipse .8 and took the OTA no problem. You will lose root but Pete's one click will work to root again. You won't lose any apps.
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In order for you to update your gonna have to sbf back to 2.3.3 if that's what your on. If not, then the update will fail because of the root. You will be able to update once you sbf & wipe data in stock recovery as well just to be safe. Hope that helps
Edit: this is for if you are trying to get the ota...sorry I should clarified that first
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I recovered my stock rooted backup from eclipse .8 and took the OTA no problem. You will lose root but Pete's one click will work to root again. You won't lose any apps.
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Why do people keep thinking that just because you have root you have to SBF.. Root has nothing to do with the OTA update..
If you try and it fails it's not due to root, it would have to do with something frozen, or you have OTA Blocked with Rom Manager, or something else changed...
Of all the phones out there I can't think of any (ever) that have blocked OTA updates just because of root access.. In fact OTA Blocking had been added in to Rom Manger a few years back to prevent the OTA updates so people wouldn't update and lose root on updates that were not rooted yet.
On a side note, why would you SBF to 2.3.3 instead of just going to 2.3.4? You're just adding an extra step there. That would be like flashing back to Froyo SBF (what's the point?) if you want 2.3.4 GB..
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Why do people keep thinking that just because you have root you have to SBF.. Root has nothing to do with the OTA update..
If you try and it fails it's not due to root, it would have to do with something frozen, or you have OTA Blocked with Rom Manager, or something else changed...
Of all the phones out there I can't think of any (ever) that have blocked OTA updates just because of root access.. In fact OTA Blocking had been added in to Rom Manger a few years back to prevent the OTA updates so people wouldn't update and lose root on updates that were not rooted yet.
On a side note, why would you SBF to 2.3.3 instead of just going to 2.3.4? You're just adding an extra step there. That would be like flashing back to Froyo SBF (what's the point?) if you want 2.3.4 GB..
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Calm down killa...just stating what I know thru past experiences & I'm not the only one who's had the problem before. When the 2.3.3 update first came out I couldn't update because my phone still was rooted, NOTHING FROZEN OR REMOVED. I read in other threads at the time that sbf'ing was the way to fix the problem. Once i did that, i was able to get the update installed successfully. Its not a wrong procedure, but a way to be sure to get a clean install. And as for flashing back, I was saying to do that if he wanted the ota
Side note...rom manager isn't or hasn't even been available yet for this phone ...surely you knew that
I think I may have messed myself up in regards to the new OTA for the Rezound. Here is the story...
My phone is currently unlocked and perm-rooted enough to use Titanium Backup on a regular basis.
Not thinking, I backed up and uninstalled some system apps (bloat) using Titanium Backup in December:
Backup Assistant
Mobile Hotspot
Mobile IM
Mobile Instant Messenger
My phone downloaded the OTA last night and attempted to install. It gets about 1/4 of the way through and stops (picture of a phone and <!> ). I have to battery pull to get it to restart. The only error message I get is: "Update Failed, Code 410"
I have tried multiple times to run the OTA and get the same result each time.
The only thing I can think is that the OTA will not install because there are system apps missing (Mobile Hotspot specifically).
I have been unsuccessful in restoring the apps via Titanium Backup. It just hangs and doesn't actually do anything.
Is there anything else I can try? Did I permanently mess things up by uninstalling those system apps? Is there other issues I may be missing?
I'm open to ideas...
if i remember correctly, it won't update if the bootloader is unlocked. all you may need to do is "relock" it. Search for "OTA" or "update" and "bootloader" and you may get some info.
or wait for someone with a better memory than i
just noticed mine tried to force the update... for anyone who hasn't updated in some capacity, looks like it will auto-update Feb 5
i do believe you need to install stock recovery for the update to install.
best bet is to install a stock rom that someone has already rooted, deodexed, etc.
You don't need to relock the bootloader. You need to unfreeze any software, or reinstall it if removed. You also need to install stock recovery.
Requirements to take the ota:
- stock os
- stock recovery
- all stock programs not frozen or uninstalled
Things that don't seem to matter:
- rooted
- unlocked bootloader
Use OTA Rootkeeper if you wish to preserve root through the OTA(make sure to use it to make the backup first)
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You don't need to relock the bootloader. You need to unfreeze any software, or reinstall it if removed. You also need to install stock recovery.
Requirements to take the ota:
- stock os
- stock recovery
- all stock programs not frozen or uninstalled
Things that don't seem to matter:
- rooted
- unlocked bootloader
Use OTA Rootkeeper if you wish to preserve root through the OTA(make sure to use it to make the backup first)
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This is exactly what I was looking for! I.am running stock, rooted with apps frozen.
I can easily unfreeze the ones with titanium back up.
How do I get and uninstall stock.recovery?
Boy do I feel stupid lil
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you can find a link for the stock recovery in the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466474&highlight=stock+recovery
I did everything in that thread, but still got the red triangle with the exclaimation mark...
Thanks for the tips everyone...
I'm still running the stock os and recovery, but I am missing the apps I listed above:
Backup Assistant
Mobile Hotspot
Mobile IM
Mobile Instant Messenger
Problem is, that I uninstalled them using Titanium Backup (I know now that I should have frozen them).
I will try re-locking the bootloader and seeing if it will let me run the OTA. If not, is there a way to force Titanium Backup to re-install those system apps? I have been unsuccessful so far.
Looks like this is not my lucky day...
I relocked the bootloader using the instructions on HTCdev and tried the update again. Same issue as before. It gets about 1/4 of the way through and stops.
While I was trying this all out, it got me thinking... Could this be due to the perm-root? Titanium backup still shows that it has root access even though my phone is relocked.
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Looks like this is not my lucky day...
I relocked the bootloader using the instructions on HTCdev and tried the update again. Same issue as before. It gets about 1/4 of the way through and stops.
While I was trying this all out, it got me thinking... Could this be due to the perm-root? Titanium backup still shows that it has root access even though my phone is relocked.
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As much effort as you are expending trying to get an OTA update for GB, why don't you just use a custom ROM, like CleanROM ICS. At least for me I get better performance and battery life to boot.
Yea... A custom rom has crossed my mind quite a few times. For this OTA, I'm more interested in the firmware included (radio, etc) to maybe fix this earphone static I have. If we had S-Off, I could just flash the radio and then use a custom rom.
Con put out a Rom that updates the radio and I believe the hboot too
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21880389
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You do need to be back to stock so maybe there's something you missed since you were rooted?
You can relock and then run the RUU to get you there and then accept the OTA and it should work. Then just unlock again and flash Amon Ra, and then either run stock or restore a nand or flash a new ROM. If you go with an older ROM without the new kernel and you want to use the new kernel you might need to update that. You can do that by following this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467793
ATERNATIVE METHOD:
You can also use con247's Stock OTA ROM instead of running the RUU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21880389
Here are the steps to take to accomplish that:
1) use Amon Ra to flash con's vigorStock OTA ROM. It will do its thing then reboot to hboot. I think it then asks you if you want to update. Don't do it yet.
2) At this point you want to relock. So go into fastboot on the phone. Using adb/fastboot type the following at the cmd prompt:
fastboot oem lock
3) Reboot phone and let it flash the PHzip file. It should reboot completely when it's finished.
4) delete the PHzip file using a file explorer app like ES File Explorer or Root Explorer.
5) get the phone back into fastboot. Unlock again using adb/fastboot. I don't remember the exact command but you can find that in the guide for unlocking.
6) reinstall su using Amon Ra.
Now you should be stock OTA rooted with the new goodies.
Check in Settings > About phone > Software info > More to see that you got all the new stuff.
Thanks for the help everyone.
I ended up just flashing the new RUU using the exe found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472606
I didn't mind setting up my phone again, and everything seems to be working fine.
I am going to try to hold out rooting until the ICS OTA update comes out (whenever that might be) so that I can avoid this same issue... We'll see how long that lasts.
Now I know with titanium back up you can save apps its been a while since I have got into the whole rooting deal and I am thinking about doing it for the TFP. Now my question is with Titanium backup can I save stock apps i.e: App locker/Backup , Asus splash, and others also stock widgets? if there is another way to do so please inform me I just want to make sure I can keep all the stock goodness that you cant get back if you wipe and root.
-Thanks in advance
it wouldn't be a good idea because those apps are in /system.
not saying its not possible, but OTA will require you to manually update your current firmware to stock before you can receive the OTA firmware update.
Well I just want the apps really they all work fine for me so I wouldnt need any ota updates as for firmware I would run a mod rom if I do go this route. I understand the whole no ota's etc due to rooting/flashing custom boot image
Hi all,
My AT&T Atrix is running 4.5.91. I unrooted it to update to 4.5.141 OTA (I understood it was risky to do an OTA update while rooted).
After I finished downloading the update, I started installing but during installation, the package icon changed to a warning icon (with no error message) and the phone rebooted on 4.5.91 with a message saying the update failed
I think the package may have been corrupted in the download as it was interrupted. Although, I did try this 3 times (redownloading each time)
Any tips?
Thanks
You must have frozen and/or deleted some Blur apps as well as being rooted. Unless you have all the stock files from the firmware you are updating from, the install will fail.
I have unrooted the phone
However, I did use the "integrate system apps updates into ROM" option on TB.
I did not freeze anything
Will this work:
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Atrix+Upgrade/Atrix-Gingerbread-Update
If not, what must I do?
Edit: Oh, and I also have AdFree installed and enabled. Should I revert?
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I have unrooted the phone
However, I did use the "integrate system apps updates into ROM" option on TB.
I did not freeze anything
Will this work:
http://www.motorola.com/Support/US-EN/Atrix+Upgrade/Atrix-Gingerbread-Update
If not, what must I do?
Edit: Oh, and I also have AdFree installed and enabled. Should I revert?
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The sd card method will fail for you as well. Undo everything that required root access, including adfree...not sure if it will restore the modified files back to stock though, never used that app.
Exactly what happened to me. Successfully updated using Motorola Software Update
Hi
You have succeeded?
I am stuck for months trying to do this update...
It's absolutely frustrating...
I actually stopped trying. I got a RAZR a few weeks after I started this thread...
I might unlock the BL and install some ROMs to play with the Atrix but basically I don't use it anymore...
Anyway, I think the problem I was having was because I integrated updates into the ROM and I don't think it can be undone
Bootloader Unlocked?
If your bootloader is unlocked the update will most likely not work. Regardless, the link below has some useful information.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501532
Hello all,
Just had a quick question. I didn't know what search terms to use to get an accurate answer, since the search seems to pick up any and everything related to any of your search terms. I was wondering what exactly prevents an OTA update from taking. Is it the recovery that is installed? Is it having root? It's been a while since I have accepted an OTA for a device, outside of the Nexus on launch day. I have my Razr Maxx rooted, no custom rom. I tried a few of the ICS leaks but they were in safestrap, my non safe partition remains only rooted. When the OTA actually hits should I be able to accept it fine or will I need to go back to completely stock unrooted?
Things that prevent an OTA: ROMS, Bloatware frozen/uninstalled, custom recoveries (safestrap, bootstrap) so yes, when you want the OTA you'll need to fastboot back to complete stock for it to work. Root won't stop an OTA but OTA's generally break root.
You can try just uninstalling safestrap but I've read cases where just uninstalling it doesn't work and you need to fastboot back to stock.
everything wrong with motorola and Android has to do with idiot upper middle management execs having endless powerpoint presentations babbling corporate gibberish so they can make the next payment on their overpriced overlarge joke of a house and BMW. we are left to sort out the steaming pile of ****. i pray google has the sense to fire every last one of them and give their salaries and bonuses to the engineers!
Freezing bloatware has never prevented me from getting and OTA. Custom ROM and bloatware removal has/will.
tech_head said:
Freezing bloatware has never prevented me from getting and OTA. Custom ROM and bloatware removal has/will.
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What is the difference between freezing and removal, from a technical standpoint? I rooted my Razr using CASUAL and then installed Titanium Backup Pro and have been zapping the Verizon bloatware. I do want the stock ICS when it comes out. I guess I could reinstall the bloatware from backup and then freeze it rather than uninstalling. I don't care so much if the OTA doesn't install, I can troubleshoot that, but I don't want the OTA to brick my phone, that's the main concern.
The main reason I don't want the bloatware on there is that I don't want there to be any danger of clicking on anything that will make my monthly bill go up. Sometimes I let my girlfriend or other people use my Razr and if they manage to get a $10 monthly charge on my bill because they just had to see NFL Mobile or something similar, I'm gonna be pissed
I'm fairly sure it just changes the extension to .apk.bak, but I could be wrong
So, I have bloatware frozen, but none uninstalled. If ICS /is/ released on the 12th for the Verizon RAZR, I should be able to get it OTA?
Rooted, stock 2.3.6
bpingry said:
So, I have bloatware frozen, but none uninstalled. If ICS /is/ released on the 12th for the Verizon RAZR, I should be able to get it OTA?
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Yes, at worst case scenario: You might have to unfreeze everything, Install OTA RootKeeper, use OTA RootKeeper to a> Backup your root and B> Temporarily unroot your device.
On the last OTA that I received, I was not able to install the OTA until I ran the Temp Unroot from OTA RootKeeper, then the OTA went smoothly after that.
quarky42 said:
Yes, at worst case scenario: You might have to unfreeze everything, Install OTA RootKeeper, use OTA RootKeeper to a> Backup your root and B> Temporarily unroot your device.
On the last OTA that I received, I was not able to install the OTA until I ran the Temp Unroot from OTA RootKeeper, then the OTA went smoothly after that.
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Apps in preinstall folder are required by OTAs those are the real bloats. Any other system modification will be verified too, like build.prop, init.d CWM and so on..
Remember an OTA update is an incremental update wich will check any required system piece, especially those I've mentioned.
Cheers
OK. So I have the pull down button mod. Will this get in the way? I've not removed any bloat or yet (was waiting for updates). All I have is pull down mod and root.
MarkyG82 said:
OK. So I have the pull down button mod. Will this get in the way? I've not removed any bloat or yet (was waiting for updates). All I have is pull down mod and root.
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Yes, it's a system modification. You'll need to flash stock rom to flash an OTA update.
When installing an OTA you can press both volume buttons at the same time to to see dialog, and if anything fails you will have filename and directory of failed checks. And it won't auto reboot until you tell it too. I found the problem files for the ics leak from early April leak and was able to install without wiping.
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See I'm not fussed about wiping. Id quite happily have stock ICS and mod it from there. Looks like I'll be hacking some way or other to get the official anyhow as I'm on linux. Unless someone can point me to a UK suitable stock rom I can fast boot or add flash from linux. I have add setup if that helps. My system version is 167.26.
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cause they arent bronies, duh.
ExtraDan said:
cause they arent bronies, duh.
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Sorry, I don't understand.
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and you wont...
MarkyG82 said:
Sorry, I don't understand.
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I don't understand them either, just don't make a big deal about it
Thanks for all the replies. I don't have any bloatware frozen and no system mods done so I guess once the OTA hits, as long as safestrap uninstalled smoothly, I should be good to go. Ill check out ota root keeper here shortly.
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