Now I know with titanium back up you can save apps its been a while since I have got into the whole rooting deal and I am thinking about doing it for the TFP. Now my question is with Titanium backup can I save stock apps i.e: App locker/Backup , Asus splash, and others also stock widgets? if there is another way to do so please inform me I just want to make sure I can keep all the stock goodness that you cant get back if you wipe and root.
-Thanks in advance
it wouldn't be a good idea because those apps are in /system.
not saying its not possible, but OTA will require you to manually update your current firmware to stock before you can receive the OTA firmware update.
Well I just want the apps really they all work fine for me so I wouldnt need any ota updates as for firmware I would run a mod rom if I do go this route. I understand the whole no ota's etc due to rooting/flashing custom boot image
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I'm trying to restore my Froyo app backups, i.e. Email 2.2.2, News 2.2.2, etc with Titanium Backup but have encountered a problem. They won't restore! The only reason I want to restore them is I'm under the impression when I update to Gingerbread (once it's avaiable on Bell) it won't let me update since I don't have some core apps installed. Please help!
The icon in the right of those apps, is an explanation mark in a triangle?
No it's actually a red happy face.
It's just Email 2.2.2, Weather 2.2.2 and News 2.2.2 that I backed up and un-installed. Now when I try and restore just those 3 the restore pop up screen goes on forever. Do I even need to reinstall these in order to update to Gingerbread successfully? Thanks.
Sorry for bumping, but I'm a little worried I won't be able to update to Gingerbread when the time comes...
Hmmm...
The think you can do is, ask for another Bell user here, upload the 3 apks you want, and
using Root Explorer or any other exlporer with root access,
or adb using your computer
move these apps to system/app
You unistalled them because they were bloatware, right?
You shouldn't unistall them. You should freeze them, and now restore them back.
But, what i suggest is:
Unlock your Bootloader,
install the Unlocked CWM
and download and install(using cwm zips) an International Version of 2.3.4 from now.
But READ very carefully the android dev section, so you wont get hard-brick!
If i helped, hit thanks!
I suggest back up your data and what not and flash a fresh stock build (either fruit cake or sbf)
Yeah I thought they were bloatware so I uninstalled them. I'll freeze next time. Can I just "Factory Data reset" after backing up all my essential apps? I really don't understand the process of flashing and updating to Gingerbread and whatnot and I'm a little scared to brick my phone too.
lexx210 said:
Yeah I thought they were bloatware so I uninstalled them. I'll freeze next time. Can I just "Factory Data reset" after backing up all my essential apps? I really don't understand the process of flashing and updating to Gingerbread and whatnot and I'm a little scared to brick my phone too.
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The only thing you have to afraid, is some SBF's, when you unlock you bootloader..(If the dont remove some code of Bootloader, in SBF's, and then you downgrade from 2.3 to 2.2, you get hard-brick!)
So, i suggest you, instead of waiting the 3 apk's,
wait for a more stable and international support for a rom(like, i m waiting Alien Rom),
and then flash it using CWM..
If you read here, you can easily unlock your Bootloader, but this can void your guarantee.
Since you are unlocked, then never use RDS lite, to flash SBF's, and flash roms in CWM which is easy and safe!
I' m not pushing you. Just recommending!
My guarantee is already voided, since i m since unlocked, and the half-earth away from USA
So unlocking my phone is the only risky part? And after I unlock my phone I should never update with the official releases again? Also, unlocking my phone only gives me the ability to flash roms, kernels etc in the future when a more stable Bell 2.34 rom comes out, it doesn't change anything with my phone as is right now except I void my warranty? Basically unlocking doesn't give me Gingerbread or anything for that matter, it only allows me to install it afterwards? You can probably tell I'm very new to all this so thank you for being so patient and helpful.
I've read most all the posts here, but didn't see answers to my questions. Sorry if I missed something.
Since the OTA TW update locks the bootloader, I'd rather not do that. I'm not sure why I care, but currently my 32GB GT is unlocked and I'd rather not loose something I have, in case I need it later. So, if I use the ROM posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198921 (UEKMB Stock + root + Deodexed), will my bootloader remain unlocked? My understanding is that this ROM is pretty much the same as the latest US OTA TW update, right?
Next, I'd like to get rid of the grey taskbar. I understand that I would use this: QuickBar_Black_TW.zip. Is this applied like the full TW ROM? Sorry for the dumb question, but I've never used CWM.
Speaking of CWM, if I later decide to sell my GT and want to put it back to factory condition, can CWM be removed completely, after flashing a stock ROM?
I've rooted an Optimus phone before. Since this TW ROM is already rooted, I assume that I can remove some of the junk apps that Samsung included in the TW update? On the phone, I used SDX App Removal. Can I use it on the GT? I tried using Titanium on the phone, but when it came time to put the phone back to stock to sell it, Titanium wouldn't restore anything. Good thing I had also backed things up with the SDX app.
Thanks.
all you really need to accept an OTA is to be on a relatively un-modded stock rom,and have the stock recovery.
as long as you meet those criteria,the OTA will happen. it will break root,and it will bring back all your deleted/frozen system apps,but its no biggie.
htcdev is somewhat like "s-off" in that you will always be able to re-root extremely easily by launching a recovery,and reflashing your superuser root files.
no need to relock,no real need to try and "preserve" your root with apps,as htcdev is not an exploit that is going to disapear.
when i first got my rezound,the OTA snuck in on me,and went without issue.
while you will have to re-freeze or delete system apps that come back,your other personal data,settings,and user apps will be safe and intact.
trying to take an OTA while running a custom recovery will NOT work. the results range from a simple failed OTA,a recoverable bootloop,or even a partially installed OTA wich will result in a non-functional rom. so again,make sure youre running the stock recovery.
hope that helps
I have an Incredible 4g on Verizon that I acquired during the first week of release. I was fortunate enough to get it unlocked during the time when HTC allowed it from their site. I unlocked the phone, installed TWRP, and rooted my device (I'm not entirely sure how I did this).
It's been over a year now, and my phone is kind of sluggish. How can I go about updating this phone to the latest software? I'd settle for the latest OTA from Verizon, as long as I can keep it rooted.
I'm also willing to flash one of the other kernels, but I dont really have any experience flashing CM or Viper.
So what's the best way to go about doing this? How do you update an already rooted phone? Ideally I'd like to keep all apps/data during the update. Any information or links for how to update appreciated!
My phones details:
Android 4.0.3
HTC Sense 4.0
Software: 1.43.605.3.710RD
HTC SDK API: 4.11
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
j13smiley said:
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
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Is this just for stock updates, or for Viper/VM mods as well? I'm willing to step up to 4.3 or 4.4 with one of these custom ROMs, assuming I can keep root.
Is this a complicated process to install one of these custom ROMs (anything special since my phone is so "old")?
Will I have to wipe and install from scratch as well?
You can always clear your cache and davek cache to help improve speeds.
zackiv31 said:
Is this just for stock updates, or for Viper/VM mods as well? I'm willing to step up to 4.3 or 4.4 with one of these custom ROMs, assuming I can keep root.
Is this a complicated process to install one of these custom ROMs (anything special since my phone is so "old")?
Will I have to wipe and install from scratch as well?
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Installing a fresh/new ROM is very easy, and it will indeed require reinstalling apps. However, Look at getting Titanium Backup Root - I highly recommend the Pro version - you can back up all of your apps and data. Once performing a full TiB backup to your external SD card, you can wipe and install a fresh ROM, then restore any/all apps and data backed up with TiB. The app will pick up right where you backed it up, settings and all. You may need to re-set up a few apps (such as email settings).
If you like sense, I recommend ViperLTE. It's very close to stock Sense, but offers several great tweaks you can choose to use (or not). Installing it is easy if you have TWRP recovery installed. If you don't have TRWP installed, look at mdmower's thread for that recovery. I also highly recommend performing a full Nandroid backup to your external SD card before doing anything.
j13smiley said:
it probably won't even install unless you return to stock recovery.
another poster already confirmed losing root after installing the update.
imo - the update is not worth it anyway. they other thread lists the changes... nothing significant.
if your phone is sluggish either find out what is causing it (app, etc), tweak performance using your root, or wipe it and start clean. i would not give up an unlocked, rooted device for this update.
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Very true... I, too, lost root after OTA update. I've tried every method I could find to attempt to unlock bootloader now with update... even tried wipe and flash of stock RUU 2.17.605.2: unable to go back to older version due to updated bootloader (wouldn't let me load it).
It'd be nice if HTCdev simply updated for a .bin that'll work... I tried flashing unlock_code.bin from previous experiences... but wouldn't work either. Any rumors of a new method to unlock the new bootloader?
I am giving two VZW GS4's to my parents for Christmas and I would like to make things as simple as possible for them, which means getting rid of all the boatware that Verizon/Samsung includes. I'm familiar with rooting/flashing etc. with my Sprint GS4, but I am still somewhat bewildered by all the info regarding the VZW phones and all the different versions.
These VZW phones are on the NC5 baseband (?) and if I understand correctly they can be rooted with towelroot but cannot install a custom recovery because the bootloader is locked.
Once I root, will the phone still receive OTA updates and install properly, or will there just be a continual message saying that the update failed?
I don't plan on trying to install a custom ROM, but if I understand correctly the only way to do so is by using safestrap?
Is it possible to backup the phone, similar to a ROM backup in TWRP for example? Will I be able to return to a full stock state after root? In other words, after I root what happens if I do a factory data reset?
Thanks in advance.
buckeyestargazer said:
I am giving two VZW GS4's to my parents for Christmas and I would like to make things as simple as possible for them, which means getting rid of all the boatware that Verizon/Samsung includes. I'm familiar with rooting/flashing etc. with my Sprint GS4, but I am still somewhat bewildered by all the info regarding the VZW phones and all the different versions.
These VZW phones are on the NC5 baseband (?) and if I understand correctly they can be rooted with towelroot but cannot install a custom recovery because the bootloader is locked.
Once I root, will the phone still receive OTA updates and install properly, or will there just be a continual message saying that the update failed?
I don't plan on trying to install a custom ROM, but if I understand correctly the only way to do so is by using safestrap?
Is it possible to backup the phone, similar to a ROM backup in TWRP for example? Will I be able to return to a full stock state after root? In other words, after I root what happens if I do a factory data reset?
Thanks in advance.
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1. You are correct. The nc5 can only be rooted. The bootloader is not unlocked or even possible to workaround; safestrap is your only option.
2. Once you root, your phone will not be stock anymore so OTAs will not work. You must unroot and restore your phone back to stock in order to update via OTA. However, if you learn how to use ODIN, your life will become much easier.
3. Safestrap is the only way.
4. You can backup with Safestrap. Yes you will be able to return back to a full stock state using ODIN. If you use ODIN to factory reset, your phone becomes back to stock i.e. unrooted.
Raymondlikesroot said:
2. Once you root, your phone will not be stock anymore so OTAs will not work. You must unroot and restore your phone back to stock in order to update via OTA. However, if you learn how to use ODIN, your life will become much easier.
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Thanks. One more question: Once rooted, if I stay on the stock rom, will the phone still receive OTA update notifications (even though it will fail install)?
I'm a little familiar with odin so I should be able to go back to full stock if necessary.
buckeyestargazer said:
Thanks. One more question: Once rooted, if I stay on the stock rom, will the phone still receive OTA update notifications (even though it will fail install)?
I'm a little familiar with odin so I should be able to go back to full stock if necessary.
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Yes, unfortunately, you will receive constant update messages. However, if you are rooted, you can stop these messages. Download an app called "titanium Backup" and freeze fwupdate.apk. That specific app is what causes all the update messages to appear.