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I'm trying to restore my Froyo app backups, i.e. Email 2.2.2, News 2.2.2, etc with Titanium Backup but have encountered a problem. They won't restore! The only reason I want to restore them is I'm under the impression when I update to Gingerbread (once it's avaiable on Bell) it won't let me update since I don't have some core apps installed. Please help!
The icon in the right of those apps, is an explanation mark in a triangle?
No it's actually a red happy face.
It's just Email 2.2.2, Weather 2.2.2 and News 2.2.2 that I backed up and un-installed. Now when I try and restore just those 3 the restore pop up screen goes on forever. Do I even need to reinstall these in order to update to Gingerbread successfully? Thanks.
Sorry for bumping, but I'm a little worried I won't be able to update to Gingerbread when the time comes...
Hmmm...
The think you can do is, ask for another Bell user here, upload the 3 apks you want, and
using Root Explorer or any other exlporer with root access,
or adb using your computer
move these apps to system/app
You unistalled them because they were bloatware, right?
You shouldn't unistall them. You should freeze them, and now restore them back.
But, what i suggest is:
Unlock your Bootloader,
install the Unlocked CWM
and download and install(using cwm zips) an International Version of 2.3.4 from now.
But READ very carefully the android dev section, so you wont get hard-brick!
If i helped, hit thanks!
I suggest back up your data and what not and flash a fresh stock build (either fruit cake or sbf)
Yeah I thought they were bloatware so I uninstalled them. I'll freeze next time. Can I just "Factory Data reset" after backing up all my essential apps? I really don't understand the process of flashing and updating to Gingerbread and whatnot and I'm a little scared to brick my phone too.
lexx210 said:
Yeah I thought they were bloatware so I uninstalled them. I'll freeze next time. Can I just "Factory Data reset" after backing up all my essential apps? I really don't understand the process of flashing and updating to Gingerbread and whatnot and I'm a little scared to brick my phone too.
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The only thing you have to afraid, is some SBF's, when you unlock you bootloader..(If the dont remove some code of Bootloader, in SBF's, and then you downgrade from 2.3 to 2.2, you get hard-brick!)
So, i suggest you, instead of waiting the 3 apk's,
wait for a more stable and international support for a rom(like, i m waiting Alien Rom),
and then flash it using CWM..
If you read here, you can easily unlock your Bootloader, but this can void your guarantee.
Since you are unlocked, then never use RDS lite, to flash SBF's, and flash roms in CWM which is easy and safe!
I' m not pushing you. Just recommending!
My guarantee is already voided, since i m since unlocked, and the half-earth away from USA
So unlocking my phone is the only risky part? And after I unlock my phone I should never update with the official releases again? Also, unlocking my phone only gives me the ability to flash roms, kernels etc in the future when a more stable Bell 2.34 rom comes out, it doesn't change anything with my phone as is right now except I void my warranty? Basically unlocking doesn't give me Gingerbread or anything for that matter, it only allows me to install it afterwards? You can probably tell I'm very new to all this so thank you for being so patient and helpful.
what will this method do exactly to my phone when i flash it?
bare with me as i am completely new to android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
its the [Heimdall][Odin][Stock][Root]UCKH7 Return/Unbrick to Stock (or Root) by Entropy512
like if i flash that, what will happen?
example questions:
1)Will the os be the exact same as when i first took it out of the box?
or will somethings be gone, e.g. TouchWiz, AT&T apps, apps already pre installed ect..?
2) or is this method's soul purpose is to achieve root and upon flashing, it will retain everything that was loaded on the phone when first taken out of the box?
sorry about the noob question. but i have to get started somehow.
pistolberserk said:
what will this method do exactly to my phone when i flash it?
bare with me as i am completely new to android.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
its the [Heimdall][Odin][Stock][Root]UCKH7 Return/Unbrick to Stock (or Root) by Entropy512
like if i flash that, what will happen?
example questions:
1)Will the os be the exact same as when i first took it out of the box?
or will somethings be gone, e.g. TouchWiz, AT&T apps, apps already pre installed ect..?
2) or is this method's soul purpose is to achieve root and upon flashing, it will retain everything that was loaded on the phone when first taken out of the box?
sorry about the noob question. but i have to get started somehow.
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1. Still be EXACTLY LIKE stock with TW and all. You will just have ROOT. Which is like having FULL ADMIN capabilities when relating it to windows computers. ROOT is just the Linux dirivitive of it.
2. Yes.
It is up to you what you want to keep or get rid of as far as any apps/bloatware that ATT/SAMSUNG put on the phone.
Sent from My KickAss Captivated CM7 OC'd 1.5Ghz/Undervolted
I really appreciate it, thanks. Do you recommend i root? i kind of want to delete all that bloatware and all that crap.
Does rooting (w/o installing a new rom) still allow me to get updates from AT&T? When ICS comes out (assuming it does), will we still get an OTA update for it?
Thanks,
pistolberserk said:
I really appreciate it, thanks. Do you recommend i root? i kind of want to delete all that bloatware and all that crap.
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rooting, in itself, doesnt do anything to your phone. if you plan on removing all the crap from the phone, then you will need root access. So yes, if thats what you want ... root away. Just be careful of what you remove. You CAN screw up your phone if you remove too much.
GeremyHamlett said:
Does rooting (w/o installing a new rom) still allow me to get updates from AT&T? When ICS comes out (assuming it does), will we still get an OTA update for it?
Thanks,
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Because you need to flash a new kernel, I can't say for sure. I dont see why it wouldn't work but then again ... you did mofidy the phone ever-so-slightly, so it might not work. Not sure why you would want OTA updates anyway. The great devs in here will have those OTA updates incorporated into their ROMs shortly after the OTA is released.
@pistolberserk,
Entropy512's stock + root will not change the flash counter. If you are concerned about voiding the warranty, you might want to read the guides linked in my signature.
@Geremyhamlett,
That AT&T would release an OTA of ICS is highly speculative. But I agree with nyydynasty (and almost all other experienced users here that wouldn't even do an OTA update).
Hey all, I'm looking to eventually install CyanogenMod 10.1 on my verizon galaxy S4. However, being a complete novice on this type of thing makes me a bit nervous about bricking my expensive phone.
So, I thought it would be good to try and understand the process of rooting and installing the custom rom. Could you guys help me out? I'll list what I know.
First thing I want to do is backup the Android stock rom that came with the phone. I have read that rooting or installing a custom rom (like CM) will void my warranty, so that's not good. But re-flashing the stock android that came with the phone will remedy this. To do this, I found this guide on using Nandroid. I don't think the CWM way will work for Verizon galaxy S4 (read that somewhere, but correct me if that's wrong).
However, it says that I am required to have a rooted phone first before running Nandroid.
Because Verizon's Galaxy S4 comes with a locked bootloader, and an unrooted phone, I need a way to root my phone. I found this nifty all-in-one tool by bhp090808.
The way that tool works is it exploits something in verizon's pre-release kernel of the S4, so it flashes the phone with the pre-release kernel, gets root privileges, then reflashes the stock kernel. Once this is done, my phone will be rooted and I assume I can use Nandroid to backup the stock android on the phone.
This is where I'm stuck. I have a few questions regarding various parts from here on:
1) Since the phone is rooted and I run Nandroid to back up the stock android rom, wouldn't Nandroid back up the stock android rom with the root access? If I needed to return my phone to Verizon under warranty, re-flashing this stock rom would still void my warranty because it still has root access? Is there a way to completely revert to stock android with verizon's unrooted and locked bootloader status (and whatever else)?
2) Does the all-in-one tool unlock bootloader? I found a tool called loki which will unlock the bootloader so that I can install custom roms like CyanogenMod. I looked in the all-in-one tool's zip folder, and it contains a file called "loki_flash", but I am unsure if this is unlocking the bootloader or not.
3) Can I re-flash a stock android if I brick my phone? What exactly does 'bricking' the phone mean?
goodmedic said:
Hey all, I'm looking to eventually install CyanogenMod 10.1 on my verizon galaxy S4. However, being a complete novice on this type of thing makes me a bit nervous about bricking my expensive phone.
So, I thought it would be good to try and understand the process of rooting and installing the custom rom. Could you guys help me out? I'll list what I know.
First thing I want to do is backup the Android stock rom that came with the phone. I have read that rooting or installing a custom rom (like CM) will void my warranty, so that's not good. But re-flashing the stock android that came with the phone will remedy this. To do this, I found this guide on using Nandroid. I don't think the CWM way will work for Verizon galaxy S4 (read that somewhere, but correct me if that's wrong).
However, it says that I am required to have a rooted phone first before running Nandroid.
Because Verizon's Galaxy S4 comes with a locked bootloader, and an unrooted phone, I need a way to root my phone. I found this nifty all-in-one tool by bhp090808.
The way that tool works is it exploits something in verizon's pre-release kernel of the S4, so it flashes the phone with the pre-release kernel, gets root privileges, then reflashes the stock kernel. Once this is done, my phone will be rooted and I assume I can use Nandroid to backup the stock android on the phone.
This is where I'm stuck. I have a few questions regarding various parts from here on:
1) Since the phone is rooted and I run Nandroid to back up the stock android rom, wouldn't Nandroid back up the stock android rom with the root access? If I needed to return my phone to Verizon under warranty, re-flashing this stock rom would still void my warranty because it still has root access? Is there a way to completely revert to stock android with verizon's unrooted and locked bootloader status (and whatever else)?
2) Does the all-in-one tool unlock bootloader? I found a tool called loki which will unlock the bootloader so that I can install custom roms like CyanogenMod. I looked in the all-in-one tool's zip folder, and it contains a file called "loki_flash", but I am unsure if this is unlocking the bootloader or not.
3) Can I re-flash a stock android if I brick my phone? What exactly does 'bricking' the phone mean?
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I see its been a few days and no one has replied so I will do my best to share what knowledge I have. I've been heavily flashing custom ROMs on my ASUS tablet now for the better part of a year and just got my Verizon GS4, so I have alot of the same questions as you.
1) I'm going to answer this in two parts.
Nandroid, in my experience, refers to the type of backup, not necessarily the process by which to backup. Most common recoveries, including ClockworkMod and TWRP have a feature to create a 'nandroid backup'. This can take some time and files can be quite large, as they copy pretty much every single file on your device; almost like creating a snapshot of your device in that moment in time.
To answer the later part of this question, (typically speaking) once you unlock a bootloader you cannot re-lock it, but that could be different for phones (my knowledge in phones is limited). And yes, using a nandroid backup will back up your device with root access, but using a tool such as Rom Toolbox, you can easily un-root (the program features a 'permanent unroot option'). For one, I would imagine that flashing the stock kernel would overwrite the root, as like you said earlier in the post the current root exploit works by flashing a pre-release kernel, applying root to the device, then re-flashing the current stock kernel. Another way to lose root is to get an over-the-air (OTA) update. You will see programs like OTA Rootkeeper that work to circumvent this, but in your case that may be a valid way to cover your arse in case you need to return it under VZW warranty (it is for this reason that I always buy Best Buy protection plans, because they could care less about the software state about your device [Disclaimer: I worked for Geek Squad so I have /somewhat/ intimate knowledge in this matter])
2) I just rooted my GS4 a few days ago, and nothing I read indicated that the all-in-one tool would unlock the bootloader. If you read the documentation about Loki, he explains this fact. I just found a good video (although it uses TWRP and GooManager instead of ROMManager and CWM) explaining that there isn't a bootloader "unlock" just yet; rather its a workaround to the bootloader that allows us to get custom ROMs on our devices (video is here)
3) "Bricking" a device means rendering the device useless; it won't operate to any fashion that it is useful to you, so its no better than a brick or a paper weight, etc. I would imagine you can re-flash a stock verizon ROM/kernel to restore any screw-ups, but keep in mind this device was released less than three months ago and any development is relatively new. Yes, we have had other Galaxy S series phones, but the S4 has this whole KNOX nonsense that is specifically designed to prevent the kinds of activities we do here on this forum
I really hope that helps. If I said anything that is incorrect, please please feel free to correct it so that at least we can all learn the proper information.
Thanks,
Opethfan89
goodmedic said:
Hey all, I'm looking to eventually install CyanogenMod 10.1 on my verizon galaxy S4. However, being a complete novice on this type of thing makes me a bit nervous about bricking my expensive phone.
So, I thought it would be good to try and understand the process of rooting and installing the custom rom. Could you guys help me out? I'll list what I know.
First thing I want to do is backup the Android stock rom that came with the phone. I have read that rooting or installing a custom rom (like CM) will void my warranty, so that's not good. But re-flashing the stock android that came with the phone will remedy this. To do this, I found this guide on using Nandroid. I don't think the CWM way will work for Verizon galaxy S4 (read that somewhere, but correct me if that's wrong).
However, it says that I am required to have a rooted phone first before running Nandroid.
Because Verizon's Galaxy S4 comes with a locked bootloader, and an unrooted phone, I need a way to root my phone. I found this nifty all-in-one tool by bhp090808.
The way that tool works is it exploits something in verizon's pre-release kernel of the S4, so it flashes the phone with the pre-release kernel, gets root privileges, then reflashes the stock kernel. Once this is done, my phone will be rooted and I assume I can use Nandroid to backup the stock android on the phone.
This is where I'm stuck. I have a few questions regarding various parts from here on:
1) Since the phone is rooted and I run Nandroid to back up the stock android rom, wouldn't Nandroid back up the stock android rom with the root access? If I needed to return my phone to Verizon under warranty, re-flashing this stock rom would still void my warranty because it still has root access? Is there a way to completely revert to stock android with verizon's unrooted and locked bootloader status (and whatever else)?
2) Does the all-in-one tool unlock bootloader? I found a tool called loki which will unlock the bootloader so that I can install custom roms like CyanogenMod. I looked in the all-in-one tool's zip folder, and it contains a file called "loki_flash", but I am unsure if this is unlocking the bootloader or not.
3) Can I re-flash a stock android if I brick my phone? What exactly does 'bricking' the phone mean?
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The S4 link in my signature has a few stock images to pick from. It will restore it to the original stock Verizon software that came with your phone.
DarkMenace said:
The S4 link in my signature has a few stock images to pick from. It will restore it to the original stock Verizon software that came with your phone.
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Does the 'Ad-Free' APK I see available on that website work better than jRummy's AdBlocker? I installed it and it detects ads (like in ASTRO, Zedge, and a few others) but doesn't block them even though I have all the settings turned ON and have rebooted when requested.
That said, thanks for the link. I've bookmarked it for future reference and its good to know there are backups available in case anything goes bad.
Are you able to elaborate on how these are flashed? Via ODIN, or can you flash it via CWM/TWRP?
Thanks,
Opethfan89
opethfan89 said:
Does the 'Ad-Free' APK I see available on that website work better than jRummy's AdBlocker? I installed it and it detects ads (like in ASTRO, Zedge, and a few others) but doesn't block them even though I have all the settings turned ON and have rebooted when requested.
That said, thanks for the link. I've bookmarked it for future reference and its good to know there are backups available in case anything goes bad.
Are you able to elaborate on how these are flashed? Via ODIN, or can you flash it via CWM/TWRP?
Thanks,
Opethfan89
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I'm not n sure. It's the only one I ever used for banner blocking. You use the files with Odin as well after they are extracted.
Sent from my Rooted Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 using xda premium
Hi,
First of all I'm new here so please don't be too hard on my nooby actions from the past.
I have a rooted Galaxy S3 and 6 months ago I wanted to flash custom roms. I've read a lot about it and thought I couldn't do anything wrong anymore, so I made a nandroid backup (to switch roms when I wanted to).
Now here comes the noob part I didn't read about or I've looked over, my stock rom was android version 4.1.2, and the new rom was 4.2, when I wanted to go back to stock I softbricked my Galaxy s3, it was stuck in a bootloop.
I managed to get into Clockwerk Recovery and fix it, though I don't remember how I did it. I ended up with a factory resetted stock rom, but I was happy everything worked again!
So everything was okay and now that a new update will be available, I wanted to check if the update was available in my country yet, but my phone said that it wouldn't update because my phone is customized, so I checked in download mode and it says flash count 1, custom binary and custom system storage.
Is there a way I can get my updates again without factory resetting my phone again or without flashing the stock rom again?
I would like my phone how it is now with all its data, but just be able to get the official updates.
Oh and I freezed some system apps and bloatware with app quarantine, maybe that's important too.
thanks in advance for the help!
No, you can't get official ota updates unless your phone is unmodified, yours is very much modified.
If you want to go back to full stock, unroot and remove flash count then there are guides in general forum, stickies. You'll lose all your data in the process.
Instead just flash the 4.3 stock rom using odin, you might not even need to factory reset doing this. Follow the guides again, back up your efs first.
Vinceee said:
Hi,
First of all I'm new here so please don't be too hard on my nooby actions from the past.
I have a rooted Galaxy S3 and 6 months ago I wanted to flash custom roms. I've read a lot about it and thought I couldn't do anything wrong anymore, so I made a nandroid backup (to switch roms when I wanted to).
Now here comes the noob part I didn't read about or I've looked over, my stock rom was android version 4.1.2, and the new rom was 4.2, when I wanted to go back to stock I softbricked my Galaxy s3, it was stuck in a bootloop.
I managed to get into Clockwerk Recovery and fix it, though I don't remember how I did it. I ended up with a factory resetted stock rom, but I was happy everything worked again!
So everything was okay and now that a new update will be available, I wanted to check if the update was available in my country yet, but my phone said that it wouldn't update because my phone is customized, so I checked in download mode and it says flash count 1, custom binary and custom system storage.
Is there a way I can get my updates again without factory resetting my phone again or without flashing the stock rom again?
I would like my phone how it is now with all its data, but just be able to get the official updates.
Oh and I freezed some system apps and bloatware with app quarantine, maybe that's important too.
thanks in advance for the help!
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you must be rooted first and make the flash counter 0. use triangle away for that. would be better to follow some guides available here at xda..
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boomboomer said:
No, you can't get official ota updates unless your phone is unmodified, yours is very much modified.
If you want to go back to full stock, unroot and remove flash count then there are guides in general forum, stickies. You'll lose all your data in the process.
Instead just flash the 4.3 stock rom using odin, you might not even need to factory reset doing this. Follow the guides again, back up your efs first.
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just by flashing 4.3 stock firmware from odin wont work, he will need to factory reset, else he may be stuck in boot loop..
Okay so if I understand correctly: I can't get the official updates directly from samsung, unless I factory reset + flash stock rom again (because now I'm also on stock but download mode says custom) + triangle away + unroot?
Now all I want is the official stock rom 4.3 of the Galaxy S3 + root (doesn't matter if it's done via odin), without losing what I have now.
Is this possible to do in any way?
I would think of
1. making a full nandroid backup
2. titanium backup
3. flash 4.3 rom + root
4. restore via titanium backup
will this work for what I want as a result?
I will read some guides too if I know that this is the way to go, I just want to be sure of everything before I do anything, I don't want to screw things up like last time..
And can I choose what 4.3 I download? (European or even more specific like Belgium in my case?)
Thanks again everyone!
Basics read first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
Critical you read the first two posts .
JJEgan said:
Basics read first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344125
Critical you read the first two posts .
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okay so I've read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743 and there was a lot I already know (I'm not that new to rooting and stuff like that) but I didn't know the radio part yet, this gives me even more questions.
If I flash stock 4.3, will I have to flash a radio of my region too or won't the radio be effected by the rom flash?
I'm just confused now.. can somebody just help me with my questions? I'm not new to the forums I just never made an account, I've read many threads on here, watched videos, ect.
Thanks again
I would also do some reading up on the new 4.3 update whether you would want to upgrade to it or not when you fix the update problem because at the moment there are a few issues with it! All though that will change when bug fixes are released in the future but at the moment it has problems.
If I flash stock 4.3, will I have to flash a radio of my region too or won't the radio be effected by the rom flash?
Depends upon what region modem is in the firmware .
personally i am not updating to 4.3 until we get a better release .
Okay thanks for the advice everyone!
I will wait until a more stable version is released
And when it comes out, will titanium backup fix all my apps and paid apps as if the update was done officially?
What would be the steps I have to do, and please don't say google it or read every thread there is about rooting I came here for your help and clear answers, I need help from people who know more about this stuff because I'm no IT pro
I'm looking for some help/advice. I did search and didn't find anything on this although I would think it would have been covered before so my apologies if I missed it and it's already been answered.
I'm currently running Stang5Litre 5.0 OC1 V2 which I installed with Flashfire and I'm having a lot of issues with Good For Enterprise and it's root check. I can get it to work with Xposed as long as I stay on an old version of Good, but I've had two accidental upgrades that triggered a compliance failure and it's a long process with my work to get a new pin to get it going again. Using the detach from market in Titanium doesn't stick. I'm also interested in using Android Pay and can't get that to work at all. So I'm now considering getting rid of root. There isn't that much I do anymore that truly requires a rooted phone other than I really like being able to get rid of all the bloat and being able to freeze and unfreeze in Titanimum.
So my question is what options do I have? Can i fully unroot a debloated ROM or would I need to flash a stock unrooted OC1 ROM? Also, is the fact that my Samsung boot screen shows as unlocked an issue? I know that simply removing SuperSU isn't enough. I don't want to do anything that is going to prevent me from changing my mind down the road and going back to a rooted ROM which I know means not installing anything after OC1.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
After doing a little more research on Good, I think I have no choice but to flash a completely stock unrooted ROM. Apparently it checks too many things to simply remove Root. So what are my options for going back to stock and still keeping the ability to root down the road if I choose?
Thanks