[Q] Any way to delay PIN lock engagement after screen off? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
My work Exchange account enforces security on my SGS2 which requires password protection. Only PIN and password is allowed, I cannot choose swipe gesture (annoying btw, is there a hack for that??).
I have a four-digit PIN set as it is the quickest to enter. It is still a bit irritating however to have to enter it and hit OK every time I check my phone, regardless of whether I locked it 10 seconds ago or 10 hours ago.
On my iPhone I could set the autolock not to engage until after 20 minutes of no interaction. I haven't found this setting on my SGS2 but I'd really like to have it.
Is there a way to accomplish this?
Thanks for all help!

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Me too!
Exactly the same here. Annoyingly, some colleagues using IPhones also sync with exchange and don't appear to have the same problem with enforced security.
I'd love to hear the responses to this thread, but in the meantime, this is all I have to offer:
Talk to your sysadmin and see if the permissions can be changed at the exchange-end
You can occasionally "switch off" exchange security in Settings - maybe in your "off-peak" times. Don't have the phone to hand, but in Settings - Security - Device administrators, delete exchange and then set your swipe security. Exchange will then stop working and will nag you with security messages when you try to access it. When you want it back, just click on the notification and rekey your PIN - exchange will "own" your phone again.
Seriously, whoever thought this was a sensible implementation of security must be an Android-hater.

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arabbitte said:
Exactly the same here. Annoyingly, some colleagues using IPhones also sync with exchange and don't appear to have the same problem with enforced security.
I'd love to hear the responses to this thread, but in the meantime, this is all I have to offer:
Talk to your sysadmin and see if the permissions can be changed at the exchange-end
You can occasionally "switch off" exchange security in Settings - maybe in your "off-peak" times. Don't have the phone to hand, but in Settings - Security - Device administrators, delete exchange and then set your swipe security. Exchange will then stop working and will nag you with security messages when you try to access it. When you want it back, just click on the notification and rekey your PIN - exchange will "own" your phone again.
Seriously, whoever thought this was a sensible implementation of security must be an Android-hater.
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For the second option, phone will take time to decrypt and encrypt which is even more annoying if the storage is almost full. I don't know whether its the encryption/decryption or something else that spoilt my Micro SD card but strangely it got corrupted after a bit of tinkering like this and firmware change.
See if Moxier mail app (trial version) as it encrypts within the app than at a device level. If it works, worth spending money later if it works. Touchdown or other mail apps haven't worked for me so can't really comment about them. I guess they also have encryption at an app level that will address exchange server security policies. Give it a try. See what happens!

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not sure if this is what yer looking for but "juice defender" has an option to set different time out lengths for screen off and screen lock, it also an extra option to set the lock to never come on when in range of home wifi etc.
i use juice defender ultimate not sure if the "lesser" versions have this feature.

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@hari: I read somewhere that Touchdown does a similar thing, enforcing things on a application level. Actually, I think it was on the touchdown website (which seemed a little odd that they'd avertise it)..
How does Moxier Mail go with integration? I.e. is the sync'd schedule available to other applications?

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Thanks for the tips guys.
I do not really like the idea of completely disabling my work Exchange sync, I am dependent on it.
Furthermore, I don't think Moxier will do it for me as I need fully integrated calendar sync as well.
Juice Defender might do it for me actually if it lets me delay the lock engagement. I'll try it out and post back.

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Doesn't look like JuiceDefender is able to override the PIN lock timeout enforced by Exchange security, unfortunately.
Aaahh, I'd kill to have that lock time out/wifi dependent lock functionality JD offers!
Stupid Exchange security..

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Kaibosh said:
@hari: I read somewhere that Touchdown does a similar thing, enforcing things on a application level. Actually, I think it was on the touchdown website (which seemed a little odd that they'd avertise it)..
How does Moxier Mail go with integration? I.e. is the sync'd schedule available to other applications?
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Not exactly sure what you mean by "sync'd schedule available to other applications?". If I understood correctly, Moxier has calendar, contacts and tasks sync. And it appears in "Accounts and Sync" option like other synced accounts like Gmail etc. with a flexibility to chose push/pull as per time of the day.
Only downside with all these apps is (one can live with this limitation though!), they have their own inbox, calendar within the app (instead of unified inbox, calendar etc..). Anyway, as such we're used to Gmail within its own app.

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CrackaBoi said:
Doesn't look like JuiceDefender is able to override the PIN lock timeout enforced by Exchange security, unfortunately.
Aaahh, I'd kill to have that lock time out/wifi dependent lock functionality JD offers!
Stupid Exchange security..
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Did you talk to your exchange admins? This might be the easiest option.
On the subject of my 2nd suggestion: Yes, it's a kludge but it really doesn't take much to switch it on/off. I didn't have any problems as discussed above with encryption/decryption and/or filling storage; it just worked. And switching it off and on in the manner I described doesn't cause a delay.
But the best option is to talk to your admins. Show them this Dilbert if they offer resistance:
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arabbitte said:
Did you talk to your exchange admins? This might be the easiest option.
On the subject of my 2nd suggestion: Yes, it's a kludge but it really doesn't take much to switch it on/off. I didn't have any problems as discussed above with encryption/decryption and/or filling storage; it just worked. And switching it off and on in the manner I described doesn't cause a delay.
But the best option is to talk to your admins. Show them this Dilbert if they offer resistance:
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Hahaha, fantastic.
Unfortunately, talking to mu Exchange admin isn't really an option. I work for a very large consulting firm.

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CrackaBoi said:
Hahaha, fantastic.
Unfortunately, talking to mu Exchange admin isn't really an option. I work for a very large consulting firm.
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Same here..
Somewhere I also read, you can patch up your email application on the phone to disable the security..
For me thats not an viable option. I have to use Lotus Connect, which install its own version of mail application.
My Desire HD had an option of delaying the password lock based on the inactivity.
So I guess its somewhere there..

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Athar Mansoor said:
Same here..
Somewhere I also read, you can patch up your email application on the phone to disable the security..
For me thats not an viable option. I have to use Lotus Connect, which install its own version of mail application.
My Desire HD had an option of delaying the password lock based on the inactivity.
So I guess its somewhere there..
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Interesting.. What do you mean "patch up"? I use the standard emial client..

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CrackaBoi said:
Interesting.. What do you mean "patch up"? I use the standard emial client..
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look up this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117452

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Why don't we ever hear of such usability issues in the many glowing reviews that are out there? I'm not winging, but its such a PITA to have to constantly reenter a 4-digit PIN that is directly impacts on your ability to use the phone. What about driving for example? You can't get past this screen to make a call, even with a bluetooth handsfree kit.
Not clever Android. What we need (in the absence of admins who are not BOFH) is exactly what is suggested in the thread title. BTW, When I mentioned above that IOS doesn't have the problem I think that's not quite true - the difference is that it splits the 2 functions: Screen Off & "logged out". I understand you can configure the 2 values seperately.
Now if my phone had that and would stop rebooting when it felt like it, it would be perfect!

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arabbitte said:
Why don't we ever hear of such usability issues in the many glowing reviews that are out there? I'm not winging, but its such a PITA to have to constantly reenter a 4-digit PIN that is directly impacts on your ability to use the phone. What about driving for example? You can't get past this screen to make a call, even with a bluetooth handsfree kit.
Not clever Android. What we need (in the absence of admins who are not BOFH) is exactly what is suggested in the thread title. BTW, When I mentioned above that IOS doesn't have the problem I think that's not quite true - the difference is that it splits the 2 functions: Screen Off & "logged out". I understand you can configure the 2 values seperately.
Now if my phone had that and would stop rebooting when it felt like it, it would be perfect!
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I hear you bro.. Feel like tricked into buying the phone lol?

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Athar Mansoor said:
I hear you bro.. Feel like tricked into buying the phone lol?
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I don't want to start an <ANYTHING> Vs Android argument but my 4 year old HC TYTN II did the "boring"* stuff better than my SGGS2:
Office document editing - has anybody looked at Excel in Polaris? A fag-box and a blunt pencil could offer a stiff challenge.
Access to exchange data (as above)
Handsfree support for making phone calls. I'm talking voice recognition, phone security and bluetooth here.
I'm not ranting - I knew what I was doing when I bought the phone and, yes, I much prefer it to my prehistoric WM device. Having said that, I'd just wish it was a little better at some of the boring stuff above. Yes, 1080p video recording, Dual-core HD games, etc, etc are wonderfull, but probably wasted on me!
* As in business activities.

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Bumping for support - have tried numerous ROMs with no luck (Lighting, Cognition, Darky 2.0 and Oxygen), I to am forced by my company to have a 6 Digit Pin Code and gets quite frustrating.

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elite_gamer04 said:
Bumping for support - have tried numerous ROMs with no luck (Lighting, Cognition, Darky 2.0 and Oxygen), I to am forced by my company to have a 6 Digit Pin Code and gets quite frustrating.
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same phone same problem...so i did a little search and found an app called delayedlock. it is awesome...i usually dont buy apps but this is one thing my mobile cant be used without...try it it will give you what you are looking for by delaying the lock
<a click on thanks is most welcome>

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capaxdoli said:
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same phone same problem...so i did a little search and found an app called delayedlock. it is awesome...i usually dont buy apps but this is one thing my mobile cant be used without...try it it will give you what you are looking for by delaying the lock
<a click on thanks is most welcome>
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On the market page it says "DOES NOT WORK IF EXCHANGE REQUIRES A PIN!".
The Exchange-enforced security is exactly what I wanted to circumvent in the first place.
@elite_gamer04
I use the hack from this thread on my SGS2 with Litening ROM 6.1, and it works perfectly, I've used it for months.