[Q] Help! I want to go back to stock - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I rooted my phone a few months ago and have been having uses and want to go back to stock. How do I do that? I have been trying to research it but having difficulty. please help.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782204

i tried that link and half the link there dont work so i can download anything. please help.

If you want to go back to stock...click the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044474 use the DL09 download in Odin and make sure you put that in the PDA part.
That will take you back to stock. If you want to go further with it...you can always upgrade the phone via Verizon...I have used DL09 to take me back to stock and then I used the EA28 update as well (which you can use also) then update from the EA28 via Verizon. It works everytime.
If that don't work...try it again but add the PIT file (just search for atlas.pit) if you can't find it let me know and I'll link to it.

Or you can look at the sticky at the top of this forum. Here's the link in case you're on mobile. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053567
Basically, you Odin to some version of stock. DL09 and DI01 are the most common. Once there, just use OTA to bring you up to current.
This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908451 has links to both Odin and DL09 and instructions on how to use them.
Once you've booted into DL09, press the menu button, then choose Settings, then About Phone, then System Updates, then Check New. Apply any updates VZW offers and then check for more. Keep doing that until there aren't any left.

Wait, you say you rooted your phone. Did you just root it or did you install a ROM? If all you did is root your phone, then you're already on stock. In that case you just need to unroot, which is a much simpler process.

Sorry it took me so long to get back to ya, I installed a rom to root my phone. I went all the way back to DL09, then I applied the EA28 update from Adryn thread, then from there I just kept updating through Verizon until there was nothing left...then I put Clockwork 3.x.x on it, then I installed UKB 2.0 and it rooted automatically.
Hope that helps you. You will only make it to the ED04 update, then from there if you want it stock just leave it be, or install UKB 2.0 w/either pbj kernal or otb.
drnihili said:
Wait, you say you rooted your phone. Did you just root it or did you install a ROM? If all you did is root your phone, then you're already on stock. In that case you just need to unroot, which is a much simpler process.
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I think we have a miscommunication. I was speaking to the OP, wherever he may be.

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Have 1.5 > OTA 2.1? You can still Root. (NOT for Leakers)

For anyone who's NOT on a LEAKED version of 2.1, you can still Root.
We have verified that the PB00IMG.zip goes through its checking process, and asks to update. It looks very much like the Root PB00IMG.zip IS able to be flashed over any phones that went from 1.5 to OTA 2.1.
So anyone who's holding back on going from 1.5 to OTA 2.1, for fear that they wont' be able to root, let your fears disappear.
Special thanks to ssgtob1 from AndroidForums.com who bravely tested booting up in HBOOT with the Root PB00IMG.zip on his SD card.
Thank you for your help, and anyone who DIDN'T leak, we STILL have you covered for Root. Go ahead and follow any set of normal directions for 1.5 to root, and you should be all set to Root your phone.
FOR LEAKERS: Some exploits are still being explored. I hope something comes to fruition. You will know as soon as anyone knows. I promise.
Thanks,
Paul
Peed on yet again leaking sucks. All I know is patience is a virtue I will forever remember to have after this phone. Guess im going to update to v3 leak from v1 since cannot update.
edgeupgx said:
Peed on yet again leaking sucks. All I know is patience is a virtue I will forever remember to have after this phone. Guess im going to update to v3 leak from v1 since cannot update.
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Maybe you should continue to be patient with v1?.....
So, Ive updated to the OTA and did not have root on my 1.5 when I updated. Are you saying that even though I have done this that I can still root? If so, which tutorial/directions should I follow?
Don't worry, two things have been confirmed.
First the OTA will not work with the leaked ROMs installed.
Second, the OTA is exactly the same as the 2.1 leak v3.
This was confirmed on Android-forum by someone that took the time to compare every single file and CRC the binaries. The only difference was that the leaked ROMs use a different bootloader to install as they did and the actual OS and apps are exactly the same so if you got leak v3 you got the OTA.
The OTA won't install because you are already running it. The only down side is you still cannot root, but otherwise you have as good or better than the OTA.
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So far, I have not come across a cooked ROM for root that does not have bugs or that functions as well as the OTA (which also has a few bugs). I'm hoping that the development will continue or even increase so we will have better ROMs soon.
xtremeskier97 said:
So, Ive updated to the OTA and did not have root on my 1.5 when I updated. Are you saying that even though I have done this that I can still root? If so, which tutorial/directions should I follow?
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The exact directions, as if you were 1.5. You have a few options. If you have Windows, an easy way to go about it is this:\
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
The manual method does, literally, the EXACT same thing, it's just a teeny bit more technical, but you learn a lot about your phone in the process (that you wouldn't have learned using the Eris Master Application). If you're pretty technical (or using Mac OSX or Unix or Linux) then I would use the following tutorial (except, if you have Unix/Linux, you don't have to worry about drivers, and it's "./adb" instead of "adb" when you're running commands).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
Good luck!
DigitalMD said:
So far, I have not come across a cooked ROM for root that does not have bugs or that functions as well as the OTA (which also has a few bugs). I'm hoping that the development will continue or even increase so we will have better ROMs soon.
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I must vouch for Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 being as bugless as the OTA, in my experience. This guy's been cooking ROMs for all kinds of phones for YEARS, and knows what he's doing. 100% clean, looks like stock, and is a lot faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
Root after 2.1 OTA upgrade from 1.5
OK,
Let me get this straight and understand it crystal clear. Are you saying that an Eris with 1.5 without root can get the 2.1 OTA upgrade and later get root? Has anyone done this? Hoping it's true as I just got the OTA and installed it based on this thread. BTW, 2.1 .......NICE!
Bill
bczygan said:
OK,
Let me get this straight and understand it crystal clear. Are you saying that an Eris with 1.5 without root can get the 2.1 OTA upgrade and later get root? Has anyone done this?
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Yes it is possible, and yes it has been done. I believe if you got the 2.1 OTA from a stock 1.5, the documented root method will work fine.
If you got 2.1 from any of the three leaks, you are stuck without root.
(Someone correct me if I'm wrong though! )
Add on question about rooting the OTA 2.1
I amn in the process of trying to root from the 2.1 OTA. Am I correct in thinking that following the walkthrough, that I will be replacing the OTA with another ROM which is functionally the same, but not the same exact one? Can I later redo the OTA from a file? Will this eliminate root?
Bill
bczygan said:
I amn in the process of trying to root from the 2.1 OTA. Am I correct in thinking that following the walkthrough, that I will be replacing the OTA with another ROM which is functionally the same, but not the same exact one? Can I later redo the OTA from a file? Will this eliminate root?
Bill
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Following the walkthrough OR using the Eris Master Application (if you have Windows) will work JUST fine. (even though those things say you NEED 1.5, that's not exactly true, because OTA 2.1 works as well).
Once you Root, put a Recovery on there, then flash a nice ROM from Recovery, you will flash a ROM (like Ivan's Eris_Official_1.0) that has AT LEAST the exact same functionality as the OTA.
Later, if you want, you can follow the method documented on http://www.androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/ in the All Things Root section, and click on AcidBath's thread, stickied at the top (then scroll about one page down) for DOWNGRADING from Root 2.1 back to Stock 1.5 (yes it is possible), then follow the tutorial for applying the MANUAL OTA update.
This will take you back from Rooted 2.1 back to OTA 2.1, if you should so choose (though I can't think of a good reason why you'd do that).
Once you have root, and you're using things like WiFi tether and so on, I'm guessing you won't go back. But the option IS available. And yes, if you go back to 1.5 then manual OTA, you will lose root, but you can GET IT BACK the same way you're getting it right now.
pkopalek - Very good info.
I'd just like to add that I manual upgraded from 1.5 to OTA 2.1 and hated it,
and found it possible to go from OTA 2.1 back down to 1.5..and I found the
process to be much easier than the manual OTA install.
I'd like to root now but after reading your instructions, (android forums site is
down right now), I'm still confused.
Root after 2.1 OTA upgrade from 1.5
I did the root last night. Took a while, but everything worked good. I now have recovery and can try other ROMS. Not quite sure yet how to access root or use su. But I love the wireless tethering. Using it right now. Used to use a wired tether program but this is better. I did lose all my apps and settings, but will rebuild it all. I don't think I'll use the OTA again. Love having root. Thanks to all who make this possible.
Bill
BlazeD OnE said:
pkopalek - Very good info.
I'd just like to add that I manual upgraded from 1.5 to OTA 2.1 and hated it,
and found it possible to go from OTA 2.1 back down to 1.5..and I found the
process to be much easier than the manual OTA install.
I'd like to root now but after reading your instructions, (android forums site is
down right now), I'm still confused.
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Rooting, you just follow the directions for Rooting a 1.5 phone. If you're on the OTA, that's fine, if you're on 1.5, that's fine. The directions are 100% exactly the same.
The link I posted above was for DOWNGRADING from Root 2.1 to normal 1.5. Ignore that. Here's where you want to be:
The Eris Master App works GREAT if you have Windows:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
Or do the normal manual Rooting method (it's exactly the same thing, just the App does the commands for you, or you do it yourself -- this is the method that I use, every time):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647707
I suggest Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 for a ROM, instead of 0.8t2 or whatever is suggested in that thread (that thread is kind of old).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
bczygan said:
I did the root last night. Took a while, but everything worked good. I now have recovery and can try other ROMS. Not quite sure yet how to access root or use su. But I love the wireless tethering. Using it right now. Used to use a wired tether program but this is better. I did lose all my apps and settings, but will rebuild it all. I don't think I'll use the OTA again. Love having root. Thanks to all who make this possible.
Bill
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I recommend Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 for you too. Download and put it on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652044
Boot your phone into recovery, do Backup/Restore > nand backup (to back up your phone) then go back to main menu (volume down), Wipe > Wipe factory/data reset, wipe Dalvik Cache (both), back to main menu (volume down), Flash Zip from SD Card, flash Ivan's Eris_Official.
You'll be doing great.
ALSO:
anyone who's rooting and flashing these ROMs should also be flashing the latest Radio that comes with the OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6469408&postcount=113
yeah i rooted from the OTA and it worked fine it just took a bit longer than it should've because i had some trouble doing it on a mac but i figured it out eventually.
just follow the instructions and you should be fine *only if you are the 2.1 OTA or 1.5*
Hi! I'm on 2.1 OTA, and my droid Eris has never been modified in any way at a software or hardware level. I am running HBOOT 1.47.0000. Whenever I use the PB00IMG.ZIP (of which I have checked the MD5 sums) and reboot into the bootloader screen (The one with "HBOOT" and searches for images) I always get "No Image or wrong image!" and am never presented with the option of "push activate" as a result. Any tips? Yes, the PB00IMG.ZIP is in the root of the SD card. I can't really think that I'm doing anything wrong, as I've read the instructions a billion times, and checked every site with instructions, to see if there was any variation in methods.
Any input or tips (other than "don't root your phone" ) would be greatly appreciated!
It Works!!!
I gave up root for the OTA...never again. I'll 2nd (3rd, 4th, etc) if you are on the OTA you can get root. Thank God...so glad to be back. ;-)
Ok so I have what might be a very elementary question. And I apologize in advance if this is not the right thread or just generally a dumb question.
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to rooting from 2.1 OTA vs. 1.5? Also is there any real difference between my phone rooted from 1.5 and my wife's phone rooted from 2.1?
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Monkeypuppet said:
Ok so I have what might be a very elementary question. And I apologize in advance if this is not the right thread or just generally a dumb question.
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to rooting from 2.1 OTA vs. 1.5? Also is there any real difference between my phone rooted from 1.5 and my wife's phone rooted from 2.1?
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As far as I understand it, after rooting, you will have both of the phones on 2.1 rooted.

ROOT, Recovery and Update < LOOK here FIRST

This is going to be simply a collection of links with important points...Please read ALL directions and comments carefully...as no one is responsible for any damage to your phone.
NOTE 1: IF YOU ARE UNROOTED AND ALREADY UPDATED WITH OTA, YOU CAN STILL USE THE PROCESSES BELOW TO ROOT AND FLASH RECOVERY.
>> Rooting Samsung Fascinate
>> Flashing Clockwork Recovery
NOTE 2: IF YOU ARE ROOTED AND WANT TO KEEP ROOT, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO POST A ROOTED UPDATE.
If something went wrong and you did not have recovery installed, use Odin to restore system to stock >> Odin Restore files to get you to stock
If something went wrong, but you are still able to get into clockwork recovery >> Stock Nandroid Image
NOTE 3: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, HAVE LAGFIX AND APPS REMOVED, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. YOU WILL RUN INTO ISSUES. YOU NEED TO COMPLETELY GO BACK TO STOCK, THEN UPDATE. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT.
If you want to stop the OTA update notification, use this file which provides simple edits...but be careful as it may make further updates more difficult >> SCH-I500.DI01 Update
UPDATED:
OTA Update with Root and Busybox >> DH12 to DI01 update with root and busybox
Please post corrections and I will update the OP...I see too many people messing up their devices. Just want to help.
My path.
1) Stock with root mentioned in this dev section
2)restored CW backup
3)used CW to install the update mentioned in this thread.
No problems so far.
After reading this thread again I went to stock and stock kernel. Rooted and gold again.
I think that CPU Scale app causes the Fascinate to shut down, so if you use it and getting them.... remove the app or let me know if you fixed.
Thanks!!!
Now, here is something I didn't try yet. I am still stock (not rooted), ran the OTA...and with all people having issues, I am scared to root. I want to try but I think I will wait and see if anyone else does this.
tats_06 said:
This is going to be simply a collection of links with important points...
>> Rooting Samsung Fascinate
>> Flashing Clockwork Recovery
NOTE 1: IF YOU ARE ROOTED AND WANT TO KEEP ROOT, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO POST A ROOTED UPDATE.
If something went wrong and you did not have recovery installed, use Odin to restore system to stock >> Odin Restore files to get you to stock
If something went wrong, but you are still able to get into clockwork recovery >> Stock Nandroid Image
NOTE 2: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, HAVE LAGFIX AND APPS REMOVED, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. YOU WILL RUN INTO ISSUES. YOU NEED TO COMPLETELY GO BACK TO STOCK, THEN UPDATE. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT.
If you don't care about root and want to install the OTA update manually >> SCH-I500.DI01 Update
Please post corrections and I will update the OP...I see too many people messing up their devices. Just want to help.
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I thought the post about doing the OTA manually would allow you to keep root, seeing that it's a stripped down version.
Let me clarify that. If that's the case, I can update the OP.
Restored, updated and Rerooted
All is well. No problems so far.
Guys, pay attention to that update file. It is only updating modem.bin, and then updating your version number so you don't get nagged for an update. There are many more patches/updates in this fix than just modem.bin, and by doing only modem.bin you make it a bit more difficult on yourself to update down the road.
If that's all you want, go ahead and use it, but in no way did JT intend for this to get distributed as "this is what you should use if you have root" update.
Read before using, that's all I ask.
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Guys, pay attention to that update file. It is only updating modem.bin, and then updating your version number so you don't get nagged for an update. There are many more patches/updates in this fix than just modem.bin, and by doing only modem.bin you make it a bit more difficult on yourself to update down the road.
If that's all you want, go ahead and use it, but in no way did JT intend for this to get distributed as "this is what you should use if you have root" update.
Read before using, that's all I ask.
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Thanks for heads up...first post updated.
Bump.... Back to top till this gets stickied!
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Bump.... Back to top till this gets stickied!
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Thanks! I just reported it too to request for sticky.
Just thought I would menetion that phone is auto updating the software once it is downloaded to phone at night I woke up this morning and just reposed at work when I went to use wireless tether it wouldn't work looked at my phone and realized it had been auto updated time to go back to stock and reroot
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azalvarez03 said:
Just thought I would menetion that phone is auto updating the software once it is downloaded to phone at night I woke up this morning and just reposed at work when I went to use wireless tether it wouldn't work looked at my phone and realized it had been auto updated time to go back to stock and reroot
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Do you have to go back to stock first before rooting? Or can you just run the root OVER the update? Thanks.
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Do you have to go back to stock first before rooting? Or can you just run the root OVER the update? Thanks.
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I don't think the update blocks root. you should be able to install the OTA as long as your not rooted, then once it is installed go ahead and root your device.
Ok...looks like root went thru...working on cwm recovery now.
OK, recovery installed successfully...running a backup right now.
Should I test restoring? Or should I assume I am safe?
Rooting after OTA update.
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
lukaro said:
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
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If you have CWM installed, you always have root via adb, which means you can get your root apps working.
If you're not running CWM, I don't know. Someone who's tried rage.bin post-update could tell you.
lukaro said:
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
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Yes you can root after update, I did it fine, but had to attempt it twice, the first try it hung, so had to do a battery pull, and then the second time it worked fine.
Nothing in the update seems worth it to return to stock (I've removed so many stock apps already.)
I'm having the Force Close loop issue. My CWR seems to be missing, as all I can access is Android system recovery <2e> with the options of:
reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
Using the Odin method didn't work for me, on multiple tries. My SD card appears to be wiped clean and I can't enter debug mode.
Is there anything short of a miracle that I can do to fix my phone? I've seen a few posts with people saying they had similar problems as mine, but there was never and explanation of how or if they fixed there phone.
Thanks in advance

Note no longer rooted after ICS update

Got my Note the day that the local ATT store had it in stock. Rooted it the next day with Odin with no problems. I updated to the official ICS this morning but now its no longer rooted. I am sure there is a simple fix, and mabye I have become delerious in my frantic search for a solution, but everything I have tried thus far has not worked. Obviously I was probably supposed to return to stock before updating. Any lamens termed help would be appreciated. This is the third phone I have rooted, but I dont keep up with this stuff after I get them rooted.
Thanks in advance!
Root it the same way you did before. First you need to install clockwork through odin. Then install SU through CWM.
Unless I missed a step, Odin gave me the "Fail" indicator.
You are not mixing up the CWM tar and the Superuser zip are you?

[Q] Update from 4.3 to 4.4.2? root removed. Backup actually backed up?

Hello. I have done quite a bit of searching, just can't find a similar enough post to tag on some questions. Sorry if this has been asked...but I did look over a month of posts, and google searching.
I have a Note 3 from September, rooted in October...not sure how I got it done...but I jumped the gun and unrooted it with SU thinking I would be able to OTA to 4.4.2. Nope!
So, I am stuck on 4.3.
My big question is how can I get to 4.4.2 with OUT starting over on the phone.
I guess this is a backup question. I have some settings turned on that indicate that a back up is going somewhere, but I can't confirm, and I don't know what all is backed up.
Pictures are backed up, but I would hate to lose them. They are on SD card anyway...so I realize I could take the card out, but something I read suggested I might lose even the micro-simm card contents. Not sure how that would be possible.
But what about things like Quick Notes, and S Note, and Contacts, and all of my apps that I have installed, and settings for those apps.
When I rooted back in October, it worked with out disrupting anything.
How can I get that to happen now WITH an upgrade to 4.4.2 AND getting it rerooted?
If I can't upgrade with out wiping it clean, I am probably going to stay put. So, then what is the best way to root to get "Wifi Tether Router" back working...as it is the only thing I need the phone rooted for.
Finally, what is the difference between NC5 and NC5D. I saw a recent post of somebody else asking it...but none of the replies gave an answer.
Thanks for any feedback.
I don't know if this will help, but you can give it a try. First, you might want to consider that you are where most of us are trying to get back to ( i.e. 4.3 with no KNOX !!! ). Ok, I would go to Samsung Firmware, and download the latest version of 4.4.2 NC5 to your PC. I would backup that copy of 4.3 on your device to your sdcard then if have an ext sdcard copy it there, or copy that backup to your pc. Most of your Pics and data should be in that backup, that you can copy back later with a file explorer like Root Explorer. Now do a factory wipe. Then take the NC5 zip you got from sammie and extract it to a file on your desktop this will change it to a .tar file. Find a copy of Odin v1.85 don't use the 3.09 version on the Samsung website if possible. Cool, reboot your device into download mode, start odin, plug in your device to your PC. Now, load that extracted file on your desktop into PDA odin, and click start. It will take minute to read Md5 then start installing. You will lose root and recovery !!! Your new bootloader will have KNOX 0x0. So, you will have to start over with the root process, but isn't that half the FUN !!! Chainfires v1.94 supersu will root NC5. As for the difference between NC5 and NC5D, It is my understanding they are the same. The D stands for a version of NC5 that was used by Samsung employees ( i.e. programmers and developers ) in the development of NC5. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Lokerd, I see you have read my response. Great!!! I would add the you can root 4.4.2 NC5 several ways. As I said above Chainfires v1.94 SuperSu, and One click autoroot, and Towelroot for 4.4.2. All should root your device without tripping KNOX. However, as soon as you flash a new custom recovery like TWRP or Philz CWM ( my favorite ) it will trip KNOX. If you are out of warranty no biggie, besides you need a custom recovery if you want to get back to your 4.3 backup. ( By the way remember you need the same recovery (i.e. TWRP or CWM ) that you made the 4.3 backup with, now on NC5 just a newer version. This will make it easier to recover the 4.3 backup later. They say the most popular recoveries will recover each others backups, but that is rarely the case.
jimzweb1 said:
First, you might want to consider that you are where most of us are trying to get back to ( i.e. 4.3 with no KNOX !!! ).
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Thanks for taking the time to reply! And to reply with such a nice well though out steps.
So...I should NOT being trying to upgrade? I can do that...just reroot and be done with this. I really don't want to risk having to lose info I have put on the phone, etc. A few new features is not going to be worth it. But, reading about improved 4g and wifi performance. Wifi calling is not important to me. But it would be nice to have the camera on the lock screen...but I bet I could find something that would do that the rooted phone I had.
So, let me ask this. If I do not care about KNOX, is the process you outlined above any easier?
Thanks!
Drew
lokerd said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply! And to reply with such a nice well though out steps.
So...I should NOT being trying to upgrade? I can do that...just reroot and be done with this. I really don't want to risk having to lose info I have put on the phone, etc. A few new features is not going to be worth it. But, reading about improved 4g and wifi performance. Wifi calling is not important to me. But it would be nice to have the camera on the lock screen...but I bet I could find something that would do that the rooted phone I had.
So, let me ask this. If I do not care about KNOX, is the process you outlined above any easier?
Thanks!
Drew
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Well, if you are out of warranty, and you don't care about KNOX go ahead and upgrade. But, consider this: One, so where clear the only reason for the 4.3 backup is to get to your pics and data at a later time. Here is a link about trying to go back http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630514 Once you install 4.4.2 NC5 ( this will include a new kernel, bootloader, baseband, and OS ) you CANNOT go to back to 4.3. If you try to install the 4.3 backup after you have upgraded to NC5 you will soft brick your phone. Then, there's KNOX what is KNOX, KNOX is security software written by the NSA for Samsung. Now I'm not saying its spyware, but Samsung is !!! You can go to Samsung's website and all the info about KNOX you need is there.
To answer your last question, no. You have to go through all the motions.
If it was me, knowing what I know now. I would stay at 4.3, install an engineering bootloader (read up on bootloaders they are not forgiving if you mess up ) then try to upgrade basebands. Here is a link for NAB engineering bootloader which should be 4.3, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655674 Here is the link for a NC5 baseband, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701837 I believe this will improve your 4G lte.
Last, what I'm running. I run Note 3 "Sprint" 4.4.2 NC5 ( no choice bought the device new with that OS, voided my warranty the second day I owned it ). Rooted with Philz CWM recovery ( hltespr v 6.12.9 ) KNOX disabled and removed. I definitely like 4.4.2 NC5 a lot better than 4.3 my daughters Note 3 had 4.3 before I upgraded to 4.4.2 and rooted it. Here is my XDA website http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770729 so if you do upgrade this is a good place to start.
Ok. Sorry for more noob questions.
Ok, the only thing I want to ensure is that I don't lose things like S Note, Action Memo, Contacts, Pictures, apps installed. I just don't want to redo everything. Basically, I just want to upgrade the operating system and have everything up and running like it was...just new OS. Is that possible? I understand what you are saying about not being able to use the back up. I guess I just don't understand if I can upgrade this phone with out having to start back over with everything.
I am not out of warranty (purchased October 2013), but I don't see that it would be a problem. I normally don't break or drop my phone...although I did drop it and picked up a nick a few weeks ago. It was unusual circumstances. Point is...I guess I will worry about warranty issues if that comes up. On the other hand, the home button is a getting a little finicky, so I avoid it...using swipe down, and a notification toggle to go to Home whenever possible.
I don't understand the difference between bootloader vs. flashing vs. upgrading basebands vs. rooting as opposed to those other things. it doesn't help that there are multiple ways to do each of the above.
I think I am in over myhead.
Can you help me figure out what I had done before...as it was working pretty good. I Rooted it to get root access, but not sure how I did it. It was easy, and it didn't erase anything. I think I simply used Odin. Attached is a screenshot of a folder of stuff that I might have used. Can you tell what root method I used?
I think I am just going to go back to what I had...and still with 4.3. I actually looked at my wife's identical phone that is on 4.4.2 and other than wifi calling, I don't see the camera on lock screen, so I don't really think I should be messing with stuff I can't wrap my mind around trying to get to 4.4.2.
lokerd said:
Ok. Sorry for more noob questions.
Ok, the only thing I want to ensure is that I don't lose things like S Note, Action Memo, Contacts, Pictures, apps installed. I just don't want to redo everything. Basically, I just want to upgrade the operating system and have everything up and running like it was...just new OS. Is that possible? I understand what you are saying about not being able to use the back up. I guess I just don't understand if I can upgrade this phone with out having to start back over with everything.
I am not out of warranty (purchased October 2013), but I don't see that it would be a problem. I normally don't break or drop my phone...although I did drop it and picked up a nick a few weeks ago. It was unusual circumstances. Point is...I guess I will worry about warranty issues if that comes up. On the other hand, the home button is a getting a little finicky, so I avoid it...using swipe down, and a notification toggle to go to Home whenever possible.
I don't understand the difference between bootloader vs. flashing vs. upgrading basebands vs. rooting as opposed to those other things. it doesn't help that there are multiple ways to do each of the above.
I think I am in over myhead.
Can you help me figure out what I had done before...as it was working pretty good. I Rooted it to get root access, but not sure how I did it. It was easy, and it didn't erase anything. I think I simply used Odin. Attached is a screenshot of a folder of stuff that I might have used. Can you tell what root method I used?
I think I am just going to go back to what I had...and still with 4.3. I actually looked at my wife's identical phone that is on 4.4.2 and other than wifi calling, I don't see the camera on lock screen, so I don't really think I should be messing with stuff I can't wrap my mind around trying to get to 4.4.2.
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Cool, your version of 4.3 should be NAB and no KNOX. If this is the case then you should be able to root, and return back to stock, if you have say a hardware issue with your device and have to return it under warranty. So, according to your last post image on 10/24/2013 you used CF Autoroot, if you want to read up here is the link to that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Now to get to the latest version of CF Autoroot you need to go to ChainFires ( CF ) repository here is the link http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ just find the model of your phone and click on File to download. Put that file on your desktop, now go to your android downloads copy and paste Odin v1.85 to your desktop. Click on Odin extract, and open it, now click on PDA a box will open, now select desktop and click on CF Auotroot. It should come up in Odin next to PDA. Now boot your device into download mode, then connect to your PC. In the upper left hand box will light up COMM: with some number in green, blue, or yellow doesn't matter just telling you that a connection was made. Now click start on the bottom of Odin, sit back and watch the magic!
When it says pass your done. Now reboot your phone if doesn't do it by itself go to your app drawer and see if SuperSu is there. To install the Recovery just follow the same steps just substitute the recovery .tar file in place of CF Autroot. I see you have ChainFires v1.65 SuperSu the latest version is v2.01 here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053. If you use CF Autoroot it will probably install the latest version of SuperSu automatically.
I see on 10/25/2013 you downloaded CWM recovery for hltespr ( sprint ) here is the link for Philz CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596001 the latest version for sprint is 6.12.9 I don't use his unified all in one recovery version, I use the sprint version, but the choice is yours. :fingers-crossed:
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Cool, your version of 4.3 should be NAB and no KNOX.
Odin v1.85 to your desktop.
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Thanks for the continued help. Just about ready to reroot the thing.
So, you mention using 1.85...is that only because that is what I have? The latest CF-Auto-Root came with 3.07 but I had already downloaded 3.09 a couple of days ago trying to figure stuff out. I also saw a warning about using the latest Odin...but I think it applied to trying to do the Kindle Fire, which I determined was 3.3 and not able to be rooted with out a special cable, which I have ordered.
Anyway, does it matter if I use the 3.07 that came with the latest version of CF-A-R? Should I use 3.09? Or def stick with 1.85.
EDIT #5: I end up using 1.85 and the original Root, then the new ROOT. So, does it matter that I used the Root from October vs the newest one or older Odin vs. newer? I have it up now, so it is just a matter of tryingt o figure this out.
BTW, I thought I had bricked my phone...went back and read YOUR instruction again, and got it restarted. The instructions on the main CF-A-R thread do not make it very clear.
Thanks a bundle!
Great !!! It doesn't matter which version of Odin you use, as long as it gets the job done. As for CF Autoroot, after your done rooting and boot the device back up. It my take awhile but you will automatically be asked update your apps, and SuperSu will update binarys at that time.

[Q] Help: Back to Stock After Debloating NC5

Hello all,
I have an S4 running NC5 and I have used TowelRoot to get root. I have deleted pretty much all of the apps on the Safe to Remove list in the general forum. I now want to accept the new OTA Update that was released two days ago in hopes of it fixing my SMS not sending issue.
I am not looking to keep root or rom in the future, life is too busy for that anymore, I just want the new OTA and a totally bloated stock unrooted ROM.
How can I restore these deleted apps? Please tell me there is a way. I know there will be a few guys wanting to say "Shoulda froze them" lol but I figured there would be a way to restore them.
Thanks to any and all responses
E.
OK, download Odin 3.07 or above, and also download the i545 nc5 factory.tar file. Put the nc5.tar in the PDA/AP slot, and put your s4 into download mode by holding down+home+power when its off. Then click start once Odin finds the s4 and let it do its thing. When its done, go through the setup like when you got the phone and just take the ota. Should be stock with the latest ota. Hope I helped, reply if you have a question
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OK, download Odin 3.07 or above, and also download the i545 nc5 factory.tar file. Put the nc5.tar in the PDA/AP slot, and put your s4 into download mode by holding down+home+power when its off. Then click start once Odin finds the s4 and let it do its thing. When its done, go through the setup like when you got the phone and just take the ota. Should be stock with the latest ota. Hope I helped, reply if you have a question
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Worked like a charm. Now im on NG6, and my phone is running smoothly. Thank you very much!
Glad I was able to help you! I've had to use Odin so many times, it isn't funny.

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