Well, I plan to watch a lot of 3D stuff while I'm on the train and youtube isn't available. I'd like to have a compiled list of how to properly convert videos to 3D in order to be watched on the Evo, (like blu-ray rips etc.) as well as any other 3D sources that pop up such as games or apps.
If anybody has any ideas or insight, post away!
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HD MKV Scene rips play fine in the gallery, actually they are quite fantastic looking, but there is a problem with the sound. I've downloaded several other players and any of them that do play with the sound start to suffer from video lag. If anybody knows how an efficient way to re-encode the audio portion only, which should be substantially quicker than re-encoding a whole video, please share!
I downloaded the Wondershare trial program as somebody had mentioned on another forum. It is EXTREMELY simple to use. You load your video, click the device icon, select Convert to 3D, and it is the second mp4 option (side by side images). Since it was the trial version I could only convert 3 minutes of video, but I tried with HD rips of Modern Family, Family Guy, and Arrested Development. The files took about 3 min to encode and were about 175 mb for 3 min of video (from a ~600mb source mkv). I transferred them to the root dir and opened them in the gallery. You will see side by side images, but if you hit menu there is an option to play in 3D.
For the most part, it was hit or miss depending on the scene. I think the software is not just junk, but actually does what it says. The main problem comes into play where most standard television/films aren't filmed with 3D in mind, and thus do not have optimal viewing angles for depth with rear objects. Also, cameras tend to switch scenes/angles quickly so by the time you realize something is in 3D the camera has switched.. during a dialogue where the camera switches the focus between several actors in a conversation, for example. There were some scenes that really had the 3D effect as if it was completely designed that way.
I'm going to play around with it some more and see if I can come up with anything interesting. Also, encoding to 3D kept the same high quality video (god, this screen is f**king amazing) and fixed the audio problems, and I didn't touch any settings. Open, find file, convert to 3D, no settings or anything besides output folder.
Side note: HTC Sense 3.0 rocks!!! They really got it right this time! I love it so far. I changed my background to a live one which is affected by the weather. There were thunderstorms last night and when I would try to unlock the screen you'd be surfing through the clouds with a lightning affect. I thought it was pretty sweet. The whole UI seems silky smooth.
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Anyone know of a fairly automated or easy way to convert wmv or other 3d video to play in 3d on the evo? Ive been playing with handbrake and a few others without success. Vids play, but show 2 screens side-by-side. Somehow, something is missing that tells the Evo movie player to play as 3d. Ideas?
Ok nevermind! Solved my own issue. Handbrake seems to work fine. Use guide found here: http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc...fer_them_to_the_htc_evo_3d.html#comments_form
Start playing with vid player. While movie is playing, hit menu button. Option to play in 3D\2D appears. Select 3d and continue playing vid! ImDumbSometimes...
I'm curious about this myself.
So the movies you are converting, what format are they in? MKV or some other file type?
Handbrake keeps their formatting (2 videos side-by-side)?
Thanks for any help.
Faluzure said:
I'm curious about this myself.
So the movies you are converting, what format are they in? MKV or some other file type?
Handbrake keeps their formatting (2 videos side-by-side)?
Thanks for any help.
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Yes, Handbrake will keep the files in side-by-side. Following the instructions in the knowyourcell linke, you'll typically be converting a MKV into an MP4. But your Gallery app is smart enough that when you watch the video and hit settings-->3D, it'll merge the screens.
HOWEVER, I was never able to get the Handbrake solution to give me good audio. So I tried Freemake and it was very successful and a little faster I think. Here's my writeup:
****TWO PRELIMINARY NOTE: (1) Please note that this is only to be used for 3D video files that you OWN THE RIGHT TO USE. (2) This guide will be most useful to those trying to convert a .MKV file, which is a type of 3D video file that is always (in my experience) "side-by-side" (technically called HALF side-by-side or half-sbs) meaning if you were to play the file on a non-3D device it would simply show two identical videos running side by side. It's THIS kind of 3D file that I've had success with so far; I've had a harder time finding solutions with "top/bottom" (also called "over under" 3D files where one image is ABOVE the other.******
Ok, now that that's out of the way, let's get started
For Starters, You'll Need:
A) The 3D file you want to view on your HTC Evo 3D
B) A connection to the internet
C) Your HTC Evo 3D (of course )
D) Your USB cable to connect your EVO 3D to your computer (this came with the phone)
Next, Your computer will need some Video Conversion Software:
DOWNLOAD: I've heard of several different programs working, but my favorite by far has been Freemake Video Converter, which you can download on your computer by going here by clicking the green "DOWNLOAD" button in the top-right corner of the page. (Once you click the DOWNLOAD button, you'll be sent to CNET.com, a very trusted tech news and download site, so you know it's a safe place to download a file!).
Launch: Launch your freshly-downloaded Freemake Video Converter.
We're halfway done!
Find Files to Convert: Now that the program is open, click either the "+ Video" or "+DVD" button in order to browse your hard drive for the 3D movies you want to make viewable on your EVO 3D. Double click on them to add them to your queue. (Remember, these should be side-by-side 3D videos--probably with file extension .MKV)
Notice how each file you double click on simple gets added to the list (queue) in the big white middle of the program. So Freemake automatically builds a queue and will let you convert ALL your files with one click later on! However, if you just want to convert one file, find it, double click it to put it in your queue, and move on
Once you've lined up your files, go to the bottom of Freemake and click "To Android."
Click the drop-down menu under "Preset", go all the way to the bottom and click "Add Your Preset" (or just click the green plus sign)
Name your new preset "Evo 3D" or something you'll remember, then apply these settings:
- Frame size: size up to
- Width: 960
- Height: 540
-Adjustment: Original
-Video Codec: H.264
-Frame Rate: Original
-Bitrate Type: Custom
-Bitrate (Kbps): 1500
Then for audio, click the "Custom Audio" button and use these settings:
-Audio Codec: AAC
-Channels: Stereo
-Sample Rate: 48000 Hz
-Bitrate: 256
Click OK and it should save your new preset. Now choose the file path that you want to save your new files to (note: you can't change the file names of your converted files at this point). Note that this conversion will leave your original file INTACT and in their ORIGINAL place and simply make converted COPIES.
Click CONVERT and THAT'S IT! You're Done! Check the status bar, but after about 20-50 minutes a regular movie should be done.
Now that conversion is complete:
-Plug in your Evo 3D, access the SD card from your PC, and copy/paste the newly converted file onto your SD card (What most of us do is create a new folder on the SD card called "Video" and then place all our converted files here).
-Use GALLERY to watch your movies--it should find the files automatically. When watching, it will usually start by playing the file as two images side by side. Just make the video fullscreen, THEN hit the options button and choose "3D", confirm, and there you go!
**NOTE: Not all of the above steps/settings may be necessary, and there are probably some great ways to improve it...but this way should get you a pretty good, very cool 3D video on your phone! Although don't forget the end result can never be better than what you start with!**
Thanks again. After I initially replied, I found both your tutorial threads on SU & XDA.
You rock dude. I noticed Handbrake literally made my computer slow to a crawl (100% CPU on multiple cores). I read that the other software you mention actually uses the GPU, which is better IMO.
I used the settings you provided in freemake. They work but I would recommend using a higher bitrate. The Evo 3d records at 1280x720 at 5200kbps at 29fps. At 1500 they are choppy and in some areas show artifacts. You might want to up the bitrate. The difference between the resolution wasn't noticed. Also lowering the frame rate helps save some space.
what is the term for a video file with side by side video? I'm not having much luck finding any sample videos except on youtube and I wanna play with 3D more than I do lol
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what is the term for a video file with side by side video? I'm not having much luck finding any sample videos except on youtube and I wanna play with 3D more than I do lol
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Sbs or Sbs half is what I heard somewhere. Google Sbs 3d videos some will pop up
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Hey thanks for this info I know I'm reviving a zombie thread.
Two Additions
1. I just have to figure out how to swap left and right eyes.
2. The software is still "free" however they try twice to install crapware on your computer. Click advanced install and don't agree to the first EULA.
Looking for a video editor that can edit the 3d video from the evo 3d and keep it in a format that can be uploaded to YouTube.
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you need any editor that can edit h264 with aac audio within mp4 container
then export as the same, when uploading to youtube just put in the right yt3d keywords
I use Adobe Premiere for mine
The trim software that came with the 3d phone is a great addition. I've used it a lot since shooting with my EVO 3d. It helps to shrink the video's to fit on youtube without needing a wifi connection.
How exactly did you use premier to edit the video? I tried premier it always messed up the format. I think tried the new vegas with 3d support. That would mess up the file as well. tried a few other editing programs with 3d support and none of them even recognize the video as being 3d and try to make it 3d and thus why they all dont do it right.
It always shows up with two views when i try to look at it again on the device, sometimes with four.
I just want to edit together simple clips nothing too crazy.
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How exactly did you use premier to edit the video? I tried premier it always messed up the format. I think tried the new vegas with 3d support. That would mess up the file as well. tried a few other editing programs with 3d support and none of them even recognize the video as being 3d and try to make it 3d and thus why they all dont do it right.
It always shows up with two views when i try to look at it again on the device, sometimes with four.
I just want to edit together simple clips nothing too crazy.
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you don't need 3D editing software, the actual video is 1 file with them side by side, load it in to a 720p project, the video will fit in to that fine, edit as you would normally, then export as 720p too
nothing else to do, it's that simple
Magix Movie Edit Pro 17 Plus HD supports 3D video editing.
I saw this just the other day and the article was in my trash, but here is a link to the article that talks about it and a bunch of other video editors.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2365581,00.asp
ok ive done that already it wont work. The video shows up as two images on the device when I try to watch it. Im trying to edit the video to watch it on my evo 3d. Whenever I upload it to the device directly or to youtube it messes up the 3d and plays with the two pictures and sometimes four side by side.
What export setting are you using besides 720p? Are you able to watch the video on your evo 3d?
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ok ive done that already it wont work. The video shows up as two images on the device when I try to watch it. Im trying to edit the video to watch it on my evo 3d. Whenever I upload it to the device directly or to youtube it messes up the 3d and plays with the two pictures and sometimes four side by side.
What export setting are you using besides 720p? Are you able to watch the video on your evo 3d?
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when playing press menu > play in 3D
it's the only way to do it at the moment (or end the name of the file with "3D")
What are the Adobe Premiere settings that you are using to edit EVO 3D footage. My project is 1280 x 720, 29,97, 441Hz Compressed. Premiere loads the mp4 into the timeline then Premiere locks up. I am using CS4 Premiere Pro.
Try videora for android
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I use wondershare ultimate, its like $65 BUT if you know where to look its fr33.
Normally I dont indulge in things of that nature, $65 for software that will be used for me and my phone only (no uploading/sharing) is a little high.
Go ahead flame on, just remember when pointing a finger you have 3 pointing back at you
I have searched and read guides for handbrake and freemake regarding transcoding for the EVO 3D movies to play on the EVO 3d. My problem is I have tried using a couple different sbs movie files. I will get an end product of movie with video that works with no sound or I have sound with a flashing screen. Any help would be awesome. BTW I followed the guides as to all codec resolution audio etc
Where are the guides located? I've been trying to play 3D movies on it myself
+1 on interest of topic. Would love to have more 3d movies on it.
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Yeah, I know it's possible cause my movies are in stereoscopic format, made for "side by side" non-glasses viewing, but it's frustrating I can't find anywhere online how to view them on my 3VO. So I decided it was finally time to join XDA forums
I know one of y'all can help!
It's remarkably confounding: no preloaded app/player for media! (Watch doesn't count as you can only buy/rent and play from their store.) If I could just open the video player and load the 3D movie file, I'm sure it would work... I'm referring to the built-in video player that only opens [for me] when viewing a 3D video that I've recorded, opened from the Gallery... ;-/
@keen77
I used this guide to get 3D movies transcoded to my EVO 3D:
www [dot] goodandevo [dot] net/2011/06/how-to-make-your-existing-3d-videos-play-nice-with-the-htc-evo-3d.html (sorry as a XDA newb I’m not allowed to post links).
[By the way, this is a great website to stay informed on developments concerning your EVO 3D!]
I only don't recommend using Handbrake (on which the article is based) but rather Freemake Video Converter (see way down the same article). Freemake is WAY superior, both in transcoding performance (quality & speed), ease of use and user interface (which could arguably be called "beautiful"). Use the same settings as the article suggests for Handbrake (including changing the resolution to 960x540) and you should be good to go! I only used this on HD videos 1920x1080 with half side-by-side, but it works perfectly on them.
I only have a problem with the fact that some videos at my disposal have the left and right images swapped the wrong way (which off course has nothing to do with the to mentioned video convertors). Watching this is a very confusing experience!
Does someone know how you can easily swap the left and right images in (half) SBS video's? I tried StereoMovie Maker (stereo [dot] jpn [dot] org/eng/stvmkr/index.html), but it stops saving the "swapped file" halfway through the saving process... and besides that the proces involves 3 transcodings (original->avi [Freemake], avi->swapped-avi [StereoMovie Maker], avi->mp4 [Freemake]) which doesn't do the quality any good and is lengthy.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Flipping the phone over corrects the 3D in those cases.
What do you mean "corrects the 3D," and in what cases? Sorry don't follow
Go into the Themes & Apps section for the Evo 3D and loom at the posts stickied. One talks about 3D movies.
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I did one up in handbrake today. It was a 1080p side by side. I just dropped the frame down to qhd and then ran it with my normal 3vo settings. It dropped the file size down from 4.7 giggers to just over half a gig.
I have a video folder on my root that I move them info that shows up in the stock gallery app. When playing you need to hit menu and choose view in 3d.
It's a crap movie, but it was the only of the type I could find lol
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This can be a complicated subject so, please read the post before deciding to commit to an answer or response since it's so easy to just say "Well, install this app and you're golden" which - at least at this moment as I'm typing this - is an impossible situation since no such app exists (and I swear, if I could code one up I would but I have effectively nil coding/programming skills).
And this is a long post too so, please, don't crap it with the tl;dr style responses. I'm not the only person this info or a potential app could benefit, there are many many people looking for exactly what I'm asking about. Could even be some money in the project if anyone cares to potentially create such an app, given the constraints and requirements. That's all covered in the main post below, so thanks for taking the time to read even these first two paragraphs.
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Ok, the question basically is this: what is the difficulty in creating an Android-based video player - one that works obviously on Android-powered devices - that can read embedded subs of some kind, be it ASS/SUB/SRT, or even VobSub (hey, I'm just tossing it out there) streams in video files, most notably MP4 containers and yes MKV as well?
I've always been curious as to why it seems - that's it seems to be an extraordinarily difficult thing to accomplish. And just for the record, here's why I ask:
My Wife is deaf, has been since birth, and she does love watching her movies and TV shows (from our rather-too-damned-large DVD collection) but because she's deaf the process of getting videos encoded in a portable format (easy to do with HandBrake, like point-click-encode-done) but also being able to include/encode the subs (or even the CC/closed captions) into the files instead of having to go through all the trouble of locating an ASS/SUB/SRT file to accompany that video.
Now, I understand subs, captions, ASS/SUB/SRT/etc formats quite well. I've been using HandBrake and many many other video encoding tools for the better part of 2 decades now (seriously, but that means video compression and encoding of many different kinds over the years, not just HandBrake, etc - I know it hasn't been around that long, or most other tools we commonly use - I mean my experience with digital video formats), but to this day there's just nothing for Android that can read embedded subtitle streams of any kind and if anyone can say why I'd sure love to know.
I'm not asking from the perspective of "GOD DAMMIT WHY CAN'T SOMEONE DO THIS?!?!?!" so please, don't take it offensively - I'm asking because I seriously want to know what the difficulty is. I've got several "How to" types of books about Android, several beginner's books for learning how to create Android apps, etc (hit up a B&N recently with a few hundred bucks in gift certificates I had and grabbed a handful of various Android development/programming books because I believe it's a damned good OS only getting better).
I'm not saying I'll ever be the one that cracks this particular problem, of course, but if anyone can point out or give me some nugget to start with on why it seems (again with the seems thing) to be so damned tough to do. If there was just one video player out there - and right now my hands down favorite is MX Video Player, free on the Market, and pretty awesome overall - that could read subs embedded in MP4/MKV containers I swear, I'd physically stand up from this chair and jump for joy, I kid you not.
But anyway... I've been doing the typical (and only method I'm aware of) process of ripping a DVD to the hard drive, encoding to a format my devices can handle (I chose a somewhat future proof resolution of 800 pixels wide (I own an HTC HD2 so that's native, and the vertical resolution is dependent on the video aspect ratio, with AAC audio, using h.264 encoding for the video stream) and embed the subs inside the container (my container of choice for the HD2 is MP4), but of course nothing can ever read the subs.
Which means that another step is required: the long somewhat tedious task of using a tool like DVDSubEdit to "rip" the sub images and then do OCR on them which is pretty much never ever even close to being accurate, which means more time spent fixing up all the booboos in the OCR text, then saving THAT file as an SRT and then being able to have MX Video Player or most any other Android video player be able to play the video file and read the SRT to display those subs.
*phew* It's a chore just typing the process out too.
So... does anyone have an answer, or a specific reason as to why Android video players can't do this? Is there a limitation in Android itself that stops any video players from reading additional streams inside video containers other than the audio and video streams only? That's my guess, that there's some kind of limitation on what the video player is allowed to access, but I am 100% guesstimating on that one - I'm quite positive I'm wrong so, you're free to point out that yes, I'm wrong if you like.
But, it sure would be nice considering I can create near-perfect files for portable devices including the HD2, any Android tablet, the Nook Color, etc etc with fantastic image quality, great audio quality, and embedded subs taken directly from the source material itself... it just seems - yes, I said it again, sorry - like there's no hope.
"Help me, XDA... you're my only hope..."
Ok, it's corny, sue me.
But if anyone cares to chime in, or has some advice that is useful and constructive and not just tell me go install yet another Android video player that doesn't actually do what I'm attempting to do, I'm liste--- errr... reading.
Thanks for your time, and if you read this far, I salute you. Have fun, always...
Hello, I honestly don't know why Android can't read embedded subs (such as ASS/SRT in MKV) but I see you're used to encode/decode/recode stuff: now, why don't you HARDCODE subs into the video? I know it takes some time, but you'd have subs "engraved" into video stream and therefore only one audio and one video stream to decode. Hope I made myself clear.
That's easy, and yes I can do that with HandBrake or straight x264 CLI work, but... I'm not deaf, my Wife is.
Sometimes I actually do like using the subtitles or captions, depending on the movie and the amount of noise/etc in a given scene (the captions make it easier to comprehend what the characters are saying, obviously), but I personally don't leave them enable intentionally so... that's why I'd like to embed them (or use files that I've already created for my Wife that are for use on the PC and can be played on the HD2 or whatever device we happen to get) so that I can enable them - or she can - as required and I can disable them so they're not "in the way" when I'm watching something just by myself.
Hope that's clear...
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How can I play a 3d video in mx player pro Or any application that can play video with translation
You don't.
You can, but not every 3D video will work with it. The trick is choosing HW and not SW decoder.
I worked for me with a few 3D video's but not the ones I converted myself in Handbrake.
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You can, but not every 3D video will work with it. The trick is choosing HW and not SW decoder.
I worked for me with a few 3D video's but not the ones I converted myself in Handbrake.
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I've tried out handbrake before but I could never get it working. Freemake is a really good free video converter, and it has a bunch of settings, including the ability to save presets (and there's specific options for android, iphone, youtube, etc...)
but back on topic, why would you need to play 3D videos with an aftermarket video player anyway? I've never had a problem with the stock video player, and I've watched Tron, Avatar, and Inception all in 3D (DVD rips from discs I own ) Edit: I get it now, I didn't see you said for translation purposes before. Sorry, I haven't even tried watching 3D video in another video player.
Unrelated note, Inception 3D was the biggest waste of time. Don't bother getting it in 3D if you want to watch it, it's a pointless feature for that movie.
Because an aftermarket player is better. It got features the stock player doesn't have, like it will remember where you left when you stop watching.
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Unrelated note, Inception 3D was the biggest waste of time. Don't bother getting it in 3D if you want to watch it, it's a pointless feature for that movie.
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Got to agree with that, Inception in 3d wasn't all that, you find yourself scanning the screen looking for the best 3d bit instead of just being wowed by the movie, which isn't half bad.
Avatar, The Smurfs (believe it or not), The final destination (good effect's poor movie), are all decent for 3D, but not too many others, an i'm going from a 47inch LED 3DTV not my phone.