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At the moment I am unable to save apps to my SD card, is this possible without rooting the phone?
Anyone know if it will be possible when htc release 2.1?
Also, does copying the apps to the sd card speed up your phone? anyone with custom ROMS, how much internal memory do you have free when running average amount of apps, ?
If i dont restart my phone it hovers around 80mb and starts to lag,
akhtar1817 said:
Hi
To start please dont ask me to use the search function
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Why not? The answers are there!
At the moment I am unable to save apps to my SD card, is this possible without rooting the phone?
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No
Anyone know if it will be possible when htc release 2.1?
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No - Apps2SD isn't currently an official part of Android, and whilst I expect it to come eventually it, it isn't there yet.
Also, does copying the apps to the sd card speed up your phone?
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No - chances are the flash memory on your phone is quite a bit faster than your SD card. If anything, it may actually make it slower.
Regards,
Dave
dave, i have to disagree... on most points.
akhtar1817 said:
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agree with dave, the answers are there.
akhtar1817 said:
At the moment I am unable to save apps to my SD card, is this possible without rooting the phone?
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depends on what you mean by "rooting the phone", but you don't need root access to your rom for apps2sd.
akhtar1817 said:
Anyone know if it will be possible when htc release 2.1?
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it can be implemented the same way as it is now. it was never available in an official update, and probably never will.
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Also, does copying the apps to the sd card speed up your phone?
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probably not. if there is any change at all it might be slower, as the sdcard is probably slower than the internal flash. whether this is measurable and/or noticable, no idea.
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anyone with custom ROMS, how much internal memory do you have free when running average amount of apps, ?
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ram or internal storage? storage about 80mb free, don't care about ram. this is a linux system, free ram is wasted ram. windows (mobile) bull**** doesn't count here.
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If i dont restart my phone it hovers around 80mb and starts to lag,
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so you are probably talking about ram. try to figure out the reason for the lagging.
thank you both for your replys, so what can I do to speed up the phone, do these custom ROMS, like modaco actually run faster,
I watched a video of a comparison between modaco and the stock ROM, and the stock ROM seemed to work quicker which kinda put me of modaco but I have also read rave reviews about modaco, your thoughts ?
Atrix is my first Android phone. Went from 3 generations of iPhones, to Samsung Focus(WP7, POS), and now atrix. I have to admit, android is the way to go if you're a tech/gadget enthusiast.
Ive got my Atrix rooted, enabled free tethering/wifi hotspot. Got Titanium etc.
The question is: What other great apps/utilities are out there that can only be used on rooted devices? Keep in mind I'm brand new to android OS so I really don't have a good grasp on what's out there and useful. I went through the root process(however easy), and now I want to take advantage of it. Any advice is much appreciated.
Same here, I rooted my Atrix but I have no idea what to do lol
From where to get apps and how to add them to my device
Same boat
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Go to the Market and download Titanium Backup and Ad-Free. Two good apps that need root to run.
I'd also get a cache cleaner. Most of the good ones require root.
Set cpu, rom manager, to name a few... May be more relevant with future development
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ChongoDroid said:
Set cpu, rom manager, to name a few... May be more relevant with future development
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whoa wait a min, setcpu ?
u sure ?
lsxrx7 said:
whoa wait a min, setcpu ?
u sure ?
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You wont be able to OC anything though...
titanium back up, adfree android, spare parts to name a few
lsxrx7 said:
whoa wait a min, setcpu ?
u sure ?
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I don't think Tegra 2s are supported by setcpu yet are they?
thunderpack said:
I don't think Tegra 2s are supported by setcpu yet are they?
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No, others have said it just FC's when you open it.
How about Root Explorer, AdFree (for sure, absolutely necessary to me now!) and TiBu (which you mentioned)... Those are the big ones for me right now.
DarkSi08 said:
No, others have said it just FC's when you open it.
How about Root Explorer, AdFree (for sure, absolutely necessary to me now!) and TiBu (which you mentioned)... Those are the big ones for me right now.
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I don't use the first or second, but I believe Titanium Backup is fully supported. I don't think anyone has gotten shootMe to work (I think it has to do with the screens resolution for some people, but for whatever reason that's the only application I've found that won't recognize my root even after it asks for, and is granted permission)
Thanks for all the replys guys. Spare Parts and Root Explorer seem to be pretty handy, along with TiBu.
One question though: Someone mentioned getting a good cache cleaner. Will the "Clean up the Dalvik cache..." function in TiBu Pro do that same thing as a normal cache cleaner? I have no idea what the Dalvik cache is.
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Thanks for all the replys guys. Spare Parts and Root Explorer seem to be pretty handy, along with TiBu.
One question though: Someone mentioned getting a good cache cleaner. Will the "Clean up the Dalvik cache..." function in TiBu Pro do that same thing as a normal cache cleaner? I have no idea what the Dalvik cache is.
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re: dalvik cache: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/76110-what-dalvik-cache.html has some good answers
Cache cleaner I mentioned was just for other cache (mostly app/browser etc.). Probably doesn't matter as much on the atrix considering the power, but on the lesser phones I came from, there was a nice speed boost when you regularly cleared those caches, and most cache cleaners require root.
holtenc said:
Atrix is my first Android phone. Went from 3 generations of iPhones, to Samsung Focus(WP7, POS), and now atrix. I have to admit, android is the way to go if you're a tech/gadget enthusiast.
Ive got my Atrix rooted, enabled free tethering/wifi hotspot. Got Titanium etc.
The question is: What other great apps/utilities are out there that can only be used on rooted devices? Keep in mind I'm brand new to android OS so I really don't have a good grasp on what's out there and useful. I went through the root process(however easy), and now I want to take advantage of it. Any advice is much appreciated.
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I keep hearing about the rooting, but cant find the link on which program or hwo to do it.
Thanks
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re: dalvik cache: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/76110-what-dalvik-cache.html has some good answers
Cache cleaner I mentioned was just for other cache (mostly app/browser etc.). Probably doesn't matter as much on the atrix considering the power, but on the lesser phones I came from, there was a nice speed boost when you regularly cleared those caches, and most cache cleaners require root.
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Thanks for the info
alkatz said:
I keep hearing about the rooting, but cant find the link on which program or hwo to do it.
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960336
that is my question? This may be the first device I'm not in a rush to root With no cwm to do nandroid backups, or install any custom roms. At least I dont think cwm is available yet. What other benefits does rooting have right now? Does it increase battery life? Doubt it.
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that is my question? This may be the first device I'm not in a rush to root With no cwm to do nandroid backups, or install any custom roms. At least I dont think cwm is available yet. What other benefits does rooting have right now? Does it increase battery life? Doubt it.
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I did it to use Titanium to restore my apps. And to freeze uninstall bloat like tethering manager. My kids need internet on their crApple ipods when we're away from wifi.
Routing brings a lot of benefits and only one con: you void the warranty.
Basically the freedom root brings is unlimited:
You can fully customize your device to your liking. That includes boot animation, icons, status bar etc. it allows you to uninstall any app (even system apps) so it boosts up your battery and performance of the device.
But with great power comes great reasonability so you gotta be careful not to mess up your device.
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Mostly right now it's just for overclocking to compensate for some the lag a lot of users are seeing as well as enable root applications such as Root Explorer to remove system apps as well as Chainfire 3d. Plus, it's just pushing the community forward (at a rapid pace I might add). You've gotta have a root available or else there's no reason for CWM.
In addition, it's just supporting the community. Da_G worked incredibly hard and was simply amazing at making the root process available so quick. Whether you root or not is up to you and I'm not saying you can only support the community by rooting, but we should all show the devs respect and thanks for the great work they are already doing.
Ok I dont need to do that at the moment. I'm trying not to restore all my apps as they were way too many and most I didnt even use. I'm trying to start fresh with apps and only install the ones I use one by one to preserve battery life. Tethering, no need yet.
urbanshadow said:
Routing brings a lot of benefits and only one con: you void the warranty.
Basically the freedom root brings is unlimited:
You can fully customize your device to your liking. That includes boot animation, icons, status bar etc. it allows you to uninstall any app (even system apps) so it boosts up your battery and performance of the device.
But with great power comes great reasonability so you gotta be careful not to mess up your device.
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inconceivable said:
Mostly right now it's just for overclocking to compensate for some the lag a lot of users are seeing as well as enable root applications such as Root Explorer to remove system apps as well as Chainfire 3d. Plus, it's just pushing the community forward (at a rapid pace I might add). You've gotta have a root available or else there's no reason for CWM.
In addition, it's just supporting the community. Da_G worked incredibly hard and was simply amazing at making the root process available so quick. Whether you root or not is up to you and I'm not saying you can only support the community by rooting, but we should all show the devs respect and thanks for the great work they are already doing.
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I hear you guys, but at the moment I'm enjoying the device with no need to root. I dont experience this lag others complain about. Its really working rather nice for me. I'm familiar with rooting and as the dev threads start getting busier and have more things to try I will root but as for right now I just dont see the need and thats weird for me. I usually root right away device out the box before anything.
Only thing that may get to me in the long run is the inconsistent screen issues we all are facing, and battery life as time goes on.
I don't think anyone here is trying to convince you to root. Do it or not, doesn't impact any one of us.
Certain things I cannot easily live without -- Tethering being one of them so it was a no brainer for me. Plus I have been tracking data usage and you would be amazed at how many AT&T pre-installed bloatware apps just use data randomly. These apps I might ad I have never so much as opened one time, so being able to freeze them is also one of the main reasons I rooted.
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Certain things I cannot easily live without -- Tethering being one of them so it was a no brainer for me. Plus I have been tracking data usage and you would be amazed at how many AT&T pre-installed bloatware apps just use data randomly. These apps I might ad I have never so much as opened one time, so being able to freeze them is also one of the main reasons I rooted.
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How exactly do you do this? Track these apps and get precise data usage? And this may be a reason to root and freeze.
adblock .
I rooted to use TiBu to restore my apps and freeze a bunch of bloatware. I've notice that it seems to move a lot faster now without all the crap bogging it down.
That could just be the placebo effect though
s1mpd1ddy said:
I rooted to use TiBu to restore my apps and freeze a bunch of bloatware. I've notice that it seems to move a lot faster now without all the crap bogging it down.
That could just be the placebo effect though
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I actually like that TiBu can freeze apps but what I dont like is that when I've tried to reinstall apps before that you have to install each one, one by one. It'll keep popping up with the option to install each one, and I'm talking about 100+ apps. Kind of a PIA. Is this because its the free version or is it the same with the paid version?
SysAdmNj said:
I actually like that TiBu can freeze apps but what I dont like is that when I've tried to reinstall apps before that you have to install each one, one by one. It'll keep popping up with the option to install each one, and I'm talking about 100+ apps. Kind of a PIA. Is this because its the free version or is it the same with the paid version?
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If you pony up and pay for it, you don't have to do this one by one. Purchasing TiBu Pro will be the best investment you can make for your phone. Seriously.
MyBackup Root is FREE and it backs up and restores apps one-click fast with no problems and it's FREE.
Did I mention it's FREE?
The names showing up in the Developer Forum are unbelievable!! So many good things to come with this phone. You are going to root eventually, why not enjoy the benefits now
jpeg42 said:
If you pony up and pay for it, you don't have to do this one by one. Purchasing TiBu Pro will be the best investment you can make for your phone. Seriously.
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I'm buying tonight.
orangekid said:
MyBackup Root is FREE and it backs up and restores apps one-click fast with no problems and it's FREE.
Did I mention it's FREE?
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Yes but it doesnt freeze pesky apps.
jpeg42 said:
The names showing up in the Developer Forum are unbelievable!! So many good things to come with this phone. You are going to root eventually, why not enjoy the benefits now
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I'm rooting tonight
-uninstalling bloat
-ad blocker
-increasing sd cache size to 4mb
-overclocking
-wifi tethering
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Maroon Mushroom said:
-uninstalling bloat
-ad blocker
-increasing sd cache size to 4mb
-overclocking
-wifi tethering
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What program do we need to use to increase the sd cache size?
I want to know the same, I think its sd booster.
And not sure why alot of people like ad blocker. I dont find the ads bothering much. Unless you guys are talking about pop ups which I've yet to experience.
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What program do we need to use to increase the sd cache size?
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Hey Maroon Mushroom, if you are browsing, can you please answer? Or anyone else have an answer? Thanks!!
Howzit guys,
I have a HTC Aria the AT&T version. I've rooted my phone and all the jazz. I'm interested in putting this ROM on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588599
What I want to know is how much internal space will be available once the ROM is installed. I currently an running Froyo/w HTC Sense and there just isn't enough internal storage space on the phone.
Regards
There's much more space in non HTC Sense roms I think. If I remember correctly, there's about 118mb free at the start.
Also, you can use S2E to move your dalvik cache to the sd card which will give you an additional 50-100mb depending on your apps.
Where can I get S2E?
You can find s2e on the Google Play store. It uses a partition on your sd card. To create the partition you can use a function in the Rom Manager app, which should have come with the ROM you installed. If not, its also on the Play store. You can also create the partition with Clockwork recovery. It will completely wipe your sd card, so make sure you have a backup of stuff you want to save. The ROM Manager method is a little easier.
Once the partition is setup, s2e will give you the option of loading cache and program files to the sd card partition. When you have it load program files, it automatically loads all existing and new downloaded programs to the sd partition. Even those that usually don't provide that option. In fact, DON'T SET "MOVE TO SD" FOR INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. While it sounds a little counter-intuitive, it will actually defeat the s2e function. The sd partition actually becomes an extension of your phone's memory. Its a very clever program for phones with limited memory.
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I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
ZorAxe said:
I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
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Well, we assumed you were switching to CyanogenMod. That's why we recommended that app.
It only works on CM. Sorry if I confused you.
Me to. In your first post you said you were going to load CM 9.
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ZorAxe said:
I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
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If you are concerned about free space, I'd advise you to install Cyanogenmod and then use S2E. If configured correctly, it will give you as much space for apps as you are willing to dedicate on your SD card. Preferably do that only with a reasonably fast SD card (class 2 is probably too slow).
Sorry if I caused confusion there. Out of all the ROM available for HTC Aria, which do you guys rate as the best and which are you currently using?
I don't wanna go through all the effort of installing and backing-up and it turns out I put a bad ROM on my phone.
I would recommend this ROM by WinSuk. I think it is the most up-to-date CM9 / ICS ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451906
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ZorAxe said:
Sorry if I caused confusion there. Out of all the ROM available for HTC Aria, which do you guys rate as the best and which are you currently using?
I don't wanna go through all the effort of installing and backing-up and it turns out I put a bad ROM on my phone.
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I would recommend CM7.2. even though it's not as up to date as ICS, it's very stable, and no bugs as far as I can tell.
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable&device=liberty
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I use Cy 7.2 before and it is really great, I just couldn't get used to the keyboard, but I'm really considering going back because internal space is becoming an issue.
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I use Cy 7.2 before and it is really great, I just couldn't get used to the keyboard, but I'm really considering going back because internal space is becoming an issue.
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I use Swype for the keyboard. You should try it out.
Are you using S2E? if not, I really recommend you use it. Just follow yar2's small tutorial he gave you.
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I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I used to be a Sense guy too, but with all the customizations CM7.2 had to offer, I just couldn't go back. Although, the battery life is a little bit of an issue(Not too much though).
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I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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Not trying to advertise or anything here (okay maybe ), but in case you haven't looked at the CM9 thread in awhile, everything works on the camera except video (which used to work, which is strange), and a separate app can be used to take it if needed.
There's also a 2.3 based sense ROM around here somewhere ("Gingersense" I think), but I don't remember if everything works on it..
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There's also a 2.3 based sense ROM around here somewhere ("Gingersense" I think), but I don't remember if everything works on it..
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【ROM】liberty_sense3.5_Bliss_Beta2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S "ZY Modded" RC3.1 [Gingersense 2.3.3]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S 3.5 "ZY MODDED"(Port of HTX Zero WS):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568366
Liberty S(GingerSense 2.3.3) 4th of July BBQ Special: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151921
I think this is most of them. which one where you referring to?
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Not trying to advertise or anything here (okay maybe ), but in case you haven't looked at the CM9 thread in awhile, everything works on the camera except video (which used to work, which is strange), and a separate app can be used to take it if needed.
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So what doesn't work, then? FM radio? Watching videos on Youtube?
Also - none of those "Gingersense" ROMs were worth much, as Bluetooth and other functionality would either crash the phone or not work at all. Never a true working phone option...
aster190 said:
【ROM】liberty_sense3.5_Bliss_Beta2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S "ZY Modded" RC3.1 [Gingersense 2.3.3]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S 3.5 "ZY MODDED"(Port of HTX Zero WS):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568366
Liberty S(GingerSense 2.3.3) 4th of July BBQ Special: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151921
I think this is most of them. which one where you referring to?
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Not sure now... I think I tried at least one awhile ago.. didn't keep it for very long though
gfinockio said:
So what doesn't work, then? FM radio? Watching videos on Youtube?
Also - none of those "Gingersense" ROMs were worth much, as Bluetooth and other functionality would either crash the phone or not work at all. Never a true working phone option...
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Everything not working is listed in the thread. Pretty much only one major thing remains - videos use a software decoder instead of hardware, and if videos are too big (say, bigger then the screen's resolution) they play slow. So HQ on YouTube is mostly unwatchable, but LQ plays fine
There's also a bug/memory leak in the decoder, and if it goes too long the system will run out of memory & reboot (this bug is fixed in Jellybean/CM10 though)
FM radio works with Spirit FM
I should note that battery life probably won't be as good though (kind of expected with all the new stuff I think)
You can always try it and revert back if you don't like it
I read through the thread - it sounds more like a testing ROM than an everyday ROM still, at least for how I would use it.
I might take the leap to CM7.2 again though, and hope I can manage the battery better.
Ok so I really need to put a new ROM on now cause my phones internal storage is so low I can't even open my Gallery anymore. I've been looking at CM7 or CM9 but there's so many different version on each, how do I know which is the most stable for everyday use?
This is something I'm wondering for some time now:
I still love my Evo 3D and do not feel at all like replacing it, but in comparison to newer models there are two big problems:
1. The limited amount of internal space is forcing me to delete apps from time to time, although I move them quite regularly to the SD card (I'm not sure why, but if I have too many apps installed they cannot be updated anymore)
2. The phone gets very slow if I don't clean the cache regularly. I assume that this is due to the small internal storage, too.
So basically my idea was that maybe if I buy a very fast 64GB micro-SD and somehow manage to boot from it, the OS would have mor than enough space. Is it realistic to assume that my problems would be solved this way? Or isn't it worth the try? Or do you maybe have another solution?
I've been working on rom2sd and data2sd. I use v6 Turbo charger scripts keeps from slowing down.
Data partiton is small, compared to current phones
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jcfunk said:
I've been working on rom2sd and data2sd. I use v6 Turbo charger scripts keeps from slowing down.
Data partiton is small, compared to current phones
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Thank you for your answer. You seem to have a good point. Unfortunatly I don't know how you got data2sd to work. Do you maybe have a link for me?
I'm working on it, did work yet had security errors