I prefer SPB Mobile Shell 3D, but I am noticing that Sense is running concurrently. If I switch to Sense, it comes up instantly, and all the widgets are running/etc.. How can I stop this? I love Mobile Shell 3D, but if Sense is being a hog, I might have to learn to like it...
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welcome to the world of locked bootloaders
not until this thing gets rooted
edit: you can probably get adw or launcer pro but im not sure if you can actually stop sense from starting.
remove all the widgets, etc off the sense homescreens, then go into settings>accounts/sync and make sure nothing is syncing that you dont want to.
tonyh703 said:
welcome to the world of locked bootloaders
not until this thing gets rooted
edit: you can probably get adw or launcer pro but im not sure if you can actually stop sense from starting.
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Maybe I misunderstand how launchers work... on an AOSP ROM, when I load up Mobile Shell 3D, does that prevent ADW or LauncherPro from working? This experience so far makes me think of WM6.5, where stuff was just an overlay.
You can stop Sense and use a different launcher but you obviously can't remove it from your phone(yet). Infact some of the system files will still be running regardless if you stop it.
like they said, just clear out ur sense homescreens and set ur preferred launcher as default, u have enough ram so noting to worry bout as far as memory usage
if u change the default to spb then restart the phone then sense might not start up... it will show if its running in the running apps menu
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stimpyshaun said:
if u change the default to spb then restart the phone then sense might not start up... it will show if its running in the running apps menu
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Sense will still run. The phone needs the Sense framework to run even if you use launcherpro or any other launcher as the default. You'll have to wait until the phone is rooted with unlocked bootloader in order to fix this with an AOSP rom.
I'm not even referring to the Sense framework... I mean the homescreen itself... it still runs. Upon reboot, Sense homescreen appears, then SPB pops up over that... it bothers me so much that I uninstalled SPB 3D until this phone is rooted with an AOSP ROM.
read as: I'll probably just never use SPB Mobile Shell 3D ever again. Oh well.
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I'm not even referring to the Sense framework... I mean the homescreen itself... it still runs. Upon reboot, Sense homescreen appears, then SPB pops up over that... it bothers me so much that I uninstalled SPB 3D until this phone is rooted with an AOSP ROM.
read as: I'll probably just never use SPB Mobile Shell 3D ever again. Oh well.
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The Sense 3 launcher is pretty damn nice, at least you won't miss much, and will gain some nice Sense widgets.
Also, just because the Sense Launcher (Rosie) is chilling in RAM doesn't mean it's running.
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The Sense 3 launcher is pretty damn nice, at least you won't miss much, and will gain some nice Sense widgets.
Also, just because the Sense Launcher (Rosie) is chilling in RAM doesn't mean it's running.
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It's running, because if I remove default homescreen in Applications, and hit home again to go to Sense, it just pops up instantly... not like when the phone is booting, or when I chose a different homescreen on my Evo.
mbh87 said:
remove all the widgets, etc off the sense homescreens, then go into settings>accounts/sync and make sure nothing is syncing that you dont want to.
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No? Changing any of the accounts/sync options is a global change, regardless of what launcher you are using.
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It's running, because if I remove default homescreen in Applications, and hit home again to go to Sense, it just pops up instantly... not like when the phone is booting, or when I chose a different homescreen on my Evo.
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Don't all the applications on the phone pop up instantly? Could it be that the phone is just that fast? (Honest question, not trying to be a jerk)
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ScrapMaker said:
It's running, because if I remove default homescreen in Applications, and hit home again to go to Sense, it just pops up instantly... not like when the phone is booting, or when I chose a different homescreen on my Evo.
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That's because it's already loaded in RAM. Like I said, in RAM doesn't mean running.
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That's because it's already loaded in RAM. Like I said, in RAM doesn't mean running.
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Perhaps one could use a task manager of sorts to see how much CPU/RAM it is using. I'd prefer for it to not use it at all. I liked how on Windows Mobile, you could kill off the homescreen--because it was basically a widget.
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Love the new higher resolution on the 3VO, but one thing I have noticed it seems too tall for only 4 icons top to bottom, seems like it could almost handle 5 rows tall ?
Could custom Rom allow that change ?
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Not even a custom rom, Launcher-Pro ADW_Launcher etc has the ability to handle additional icon rows/cols if I remember right.
error4o4 said:
Not even a custom rom, Launcher-Pro ADW_Launcher etc has the ability to handle additional icon rows/cols if I remember right.
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correct, i love the new sense 3.0,but dumped their home launcher on first day for ADW
i now have 6 rows of icons with the 3D resolution, and 5 columns of icons (compared to the 4row 4col with sense)
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correct, i love the new sense 3.0,but dumped their home launcher on first day for ADW
i now have 6 rows of icons with the 3D resolution, and 5 columns of icons (compared to the 4row 4col with sense)
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I will have to try that. I really need more than 4x4 on this phone.
I looked up ADW launcher in the Market, all the recent comments say it force closes and freezes up a lot ?
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HOnestly I find ADW to be crap in comparison to Launcher Pro.
ADW i've always had issues with from 2 years ago even till now.
Zorachus said:
I will have to try that. I really need more than 4x4 on this phone.
I looked up ADW launcher in the Market, all the recent comments say it force closes and freezes up a lot ?
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well im using ADW EX on the 3D with no force closes
i think you're reading about the free one
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well im using ADW EX on the 3D with no force closes
i think you're reading about the free one
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Does it effect the new Sense lock screen ?
Or take up more memory slowing down the phone at all ?
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error4o4 said:
HOnestly I find ADW to be crap in comparison to Launcher Pro.
ADW i've always had issues with from 2 years ago even till now.
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curios, why you say crap?
like what advantage or things does launcher pro do that ADW cant?
Zorachus said:
Does it effect the new Sense lock screen ?
Or take up more memory slowing down the phone at all ?
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effect in what way?
the only thing is, if you choose ADW as your launcher(or probably any other launcher), when you hit the personalize button, it wont do anything. Meaning you cant change the options for lockscreen and stuff.
I dont know how much memory ADW takes up, but I see no ill effect (plus we have more memory than previous evo 4G anyway)
It doesnt slow my phone down at all (had it on evo 4G didnt slow it down either)
HOWEVER, all you have to do is change back to the sense launcher, do your changes, then set ADW back to your standard launcher. Easy
I really suggest you try it if you want to truly customize your homescreen,its literally like about 100more features to ADW than the standard sense,even with it being 3.0
When I had my Evo 4G there was something you could flash on top of a custom ROM to allow 5x4 for sense so I'm sure it'll be possible eventually.
With ADW/AWD ( always get that wrong, sorry) I had my share of problems ranging from FC's (Force Close) every so often restarting the entire launcher.
But my #1 main issue with it happened no matter what ROM i'd be using. The icon bars would randomly disappear and would not re-appear till I reboot the phone. Even when I tried to restore backups of the launcher (build in feature) it wouldnt fix it till I reboot.
Never had that with Launcher Pro, and LP seemed cleaner all in all.
Both are good dont get me wrong, but in my personal experience one certainly was better than the other.
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With ADW/AWD ( always get that wrong, sorry) I had my share of problems ranging from FC's (Force Close) every so often restarting the entire launcher.
But my #1 main issue with it happened no matter what ROM i'd be using. The icon bars would randomly disappear and would not re-appear till I reboot the phone. Even when I tried to restore backups of the launcher (build in feature) it wouldnt fix it till I reboot.
Never had that with Launcher Pro, and LP seemed cleaner all in all.
Both are good dont get me wrong, but in my personal experience one certainly was better than the other.
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I use LPP and love it, got the 5x4 setup going on. its great.
I agree HTC kinda messed that up. It's okay for most widgets but definitely too much space for apps. And multicon (my saving grace on the EVO) looks messed up...
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awenthol said:
I agree HTC kinda messed that up. It's okay for most widgets but definitely too much space for apps. And multicon (my saving grace on the EVO) looks messed up...
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Just use LPP or ADW
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I put Launcher Pro on my 3VO and I have to say, I love my phone 100 times better. I was seriously not very impressed with this phone, but now that I have more control over everything, I love it. Get it!
Good day techies. This is quite a time i have reocurring problem on my HTC Desire S with HTC Sense forceclosing/restarting (screen with HTC logo, then "Loading" ...) usually when tabbing or pressing "Home Screen". I tried clearing cache and data of HTC Sense process and in conclusion nothing helped. Installing latest updates and HTC Sense 3 didn't help for my Android 2.3.3
Haven't tried factory reset because it will probably require a lot of tinkering which i don't have time to go into so i would like to know if installing any kind of launcher such as GoLauncher, ADW Launcher EX (read it is faster than others) which are available on Google Play would fix the problem.
Thanks for responses!
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HTC Sense UI consumes a lot of resources like RAM so if you open some apps simultaneously and then press home screen, SENSE has to reload because the device is out of RAM. If you install another launcher like GO EX, you have to set it as default launcher. However HTC SENSE will continue to run in the background nevertheless...
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HTC Sense UI consumes a lot of resources like RAM so if you open some apps simultaneously and then press home screen, SENSE has to reload because the device is out of RAM. If you install another launcher like GO EX, you have to set it as default launcher. However HTC SENSE will continue to run in the background nevertheless...
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You mean 768MB of RAM my device has is not enough? And what is the use of installing additional launcher if HTC Sense is still consming RAM? What is way out of this?
Actually, when I ran Sense and used a third party launcher, HTC Sense didn't run in the background. I removed all widgets, apps, shortcuts, etc from the screen and set ADW Ex as my default home screen. My phone ran more smoothly and I never caught Sense open. It's worth a shot.
Also remember that Sense 3.0 uses more ram than earlier versions of Sense.
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Actually, when I ran Sense and used a third party launcher, HTC Sense didn't run in the background.
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Where did it run then?
plainjane said:
I removed all widgets, apps, shortcuts, etc from the screen and set ADW Ex as my default home screen. My phone ran more smoothly and I never caught Sense open. It's worth a shot.
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How do you set it as home screen?
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Also remember that Sense 3.0 uses more ram than earlier versions of Sense.
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Is there a way to downgrade to previous version of Sense?
Boris_yo said:
Where did it run then?
How do you set it as home screen?
Is there a way to downgrade to previous version of Sense?
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It didn't run at all, when I'd go into manage applications, it never showed in running apps and never had a force stop button available. When I used the Sense launcher, it showed in running apps and I could stop it from manage applications.
When you install a third party launcher, you'll be given the option to set it as the default home. Once it has installed, hit the home button. You'll be given a dialog asking which launcher you want to use. Select the set as default button & choose the new launcher. If you accidentally choose the wrong one or need to switch back, go to manage applications and find whichever you have set as default. You'll have the option to clear defaults, it's near the bottom. You can also install one of the Home Switcher apps and manage them from there.
Downgrading to a previous version of Sense would require flashing a different rom. If your device has never had anything other than Sense 3.0 then you won't have a Sense 1.0 or 2.1 rom. If the phone used to have an earlier version of Sense, then there will be roms available for it. If your stock rom is 3.0, then going to an earlier version may require going to an earlier version of Android as well. That depends on how the updates have come out.
All I'm saying is that it's worth a shot. I suggest ADW Ex, but if you don't want to pay for it without knowing if it's going to solve your problem, try the free ADW or any other launcher. If it works you can then look at other launchers. If it doesn't work and you prefer Sense, just uninstall the third party launcher or switch back to Sense.
I prefer ADW Ex over Sense as you have many more options. A lot of people like Go Launcher, but I didn't care for it. You might want to give it a shot. LauncherPro is kinda outdated and is missing features. The choice is really up to you, I just think that you might have better luck with a different launcher. Just know that you can't use the Sense widgets with anything other than Sense. If you miss the widgets, check out Android Pro Widgets (APW).
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Downgrading to a previous version of Sense would require flashing a different rom. If your device has never had anything other than Sense 3.0 then you won't have a Sense 1.0 or 2.1 rom. If the phone used to have an earlier version of Sense, then there will be roms available for it. If your stock rom is 3.0, then going to an earlier version may require going to an earlier version of Android as well. That depends on how the updates have come out.
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I have stock Android 2.3.3 that came with Sense 2.1
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Just know that you can't use the Sense widgets with anything other than Sense. If you miss the widgets, check out Android Pro Widgets (APW).
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I thought widgets are universal? You mean i will not be able to use widgets any longer should i ditch HTC Sense?
Boris_yo said:
You mean 768MB of RAM my device has is not enough? And what is the use of installing additional launcher if HTC Sense is still consming RAM? What is way out of this?
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Install GO EX LAUNCHER. Press HOME button from anywhere within the OS and it will ask you which launcher you want to go to. Select the one you want. You can also use task manager widget for Go EX LAUNCHER to clear RAM and sometimes shut down HTC SENSE LAUNCHER. HTC SENSE LAUNCHER reloads when you select it as the launcher after pressing home button...
Memory Booster?
Will Memory Booster help?
Just a quick question here, something which takes me a while when setting up a new Rom.
Is there anything which can copy your homescreens layout and then restore it after flashing a new Rom?
Titanium puts the exact apks back in the system with the same data but it'd be nice to have something to put the folders and apps back too.
Any ideas?
Based on sense roms ICS.
CHEERS.
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4Ext recovery control does. Advanced backup selecting only data and flash new rom, then restore data partition
schmeggy929 said:
4Ext recovery control does. Advanced backup selecting only data and flash new rom, then restore data partition
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How well does this work?
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How well does this work?
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I've heard doing that works well since it restores home screens, apps, and data, but can cause problems if restoring data between roms, especially between odex and deodex.
You may want to consider a different launcher like ADW EX or Apex. Both have backup and restore capabilities built in.
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4Ext recovery control does. Advanced backup selecting only data and flash new rom, then restore data partition
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My apologies, maybe I should have been more precise with what I asked, I automatically assumed that everyone would do at least a superwipe prior to flashing a new Rom, you can't report issues without it.
So to reiterate, is there a way to get your home screens back the way they were after a superwipe?, Its only as it is a pain in the arse to get it back to normal again.
but ill give that a whirl anyway,
Cheers.
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coal686 said:
You may want to consider a different launcher like ADW EX or Apex. Both have backup and restore capabilities built in.
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I only use sense. Nothing comes close.
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dladz said:
I only use sense. Nothing comes close.
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I understand the loyalty, especially on ICS. But I purchased ADW EX when it was 10 cents and have now been playing with Apex Launcher and they are smooth. If you miss the sense widgets, Android Pro Widgets (for agenda, friendstream, etc) and Beautiful Widgets (for the clock) are good substitutes.
Having said that, I currently run Sense too, so like I said, I understand your reluctance to switch.
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I understand the loyalty, especially on ICS. But I purchased ADW EX when it was 10 cents and have now been playing with Apex Launcher and they are smooth. If you miss the sense widgets, Android Pro Widgets (for agenda, friendstream, etc) and Beautiful Widgets (for the clock) are good substitutes.
Having said that, I currently run Sense too, so like I said, I understand your reluctance to switch.
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Yea I hear you there, but it isn't just the widgets its the whole feel of it, even the phone book is better, on stock all you get is a line of code which would normally link to fb.
Sense integrates everything really well, and they have come on in leaps and bounds in terms of performance.
I do sometimes make the switch to the stock look but I'm always drawn back.
Thanks tho m8
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Yea I hear you there, but it isn't just the widgets its the whole feel of it, even the phone book is better, on stock all you get is a line of code which would normally link to fb.
Sense integrates everything really well, and they have come on in leaps and bounds in terms of performance.
I do sometimes make the switch to the stock look but I'm always drawn back.
Thanks tho m8
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Not trying to convince you to change, but fyi, the launchers I mentioned still allow use of the sense apps, just not the widgets. So, the phone book, dialer, gallery, camera app, etc are still sense. They do not require you to use any stock ASOP apps.
Is there any way to disable Sense if I'm using Nova or another 3rd-party launcher? I still have Sense running in the background eating up resources even though I'm not using it... ugh.
No sir.... Best bet is to flash the somesense Rom and use a custom launcher. The only other way to do it is through an aosp Rom. Currently we have a pretty smooth cm9 in the dev section, but it doesn't have a few vital things working yet
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That sucks, but thanks very much for the info
darkfire23 said:
Is there any way to disable Sense if I'm using Nova or another 3rd-party launcher? I still have Sense running in the background eating up resources even though I'm not using it... ugh.
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You can freeze our uninstall the sense launcher along with any apps/widgets you don't use if you have a third party launcher installed. I've done this. I wouldn't go uninstalling things without knowing what it is first.
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That requires root I assume?
Yes and a lot of research as you might disable a vital component on accident and then you have to really flash a new Rom.
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That requires root I assume?
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Yes, to freeze sense and other widgets u need to root. Wish u didn't. Hate having to give up twc tv on phone and renting movies thru google play. But I guess torrents and better multitasking will make up for it...
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As stated above, you must be rooted to do this stuff, but in case you wanted to know...
I uninstalled just about every sense element I could find in TitaniumBackup and use Apex launcher in place of the stock one. Interestingly, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the stock ICS lockscreen popped up after uninstalling the sense lockscreen, so I don't have to run any 3rd party LS app. Also I have uninstalled the stock browser and clock, replacing them with the apks I pulled from CM9, mostly because I like the look and feel a little better, but also sense alarm wouldn't display on the ICS LS--CM9 alarm does. I had the CM9 message app on my LTE also, but found I was unable to send or receive MMS. I didn't really investigate too much further to try to get it working and I don't know if it is even possible. EX Dialer offers a more appealing phone app than does the sense version as far as I'm concerned.
There are ways to make your phone look differently, but as you said sense eats up the background, and I feel the CM9 apps run a little lighter. I enjoy a much better experience without the Sense stuff as it feels a little closer to AOSP now.
Good luck should you decide to try some of the suggestions, and remember, always always have a backup.
How did you remove the location icon?
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No sir.... Best bet is to flash the somesense Rom and use a custom launcher. The only other way to do it is through an aosp Rom. Currently we have a pretty smooth cm9 in the dev section, but it doesn't have a few vital things working yet
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What kind of vital things? Is it stable enought to use as a daily?
The part of sense that is still running is the 35MB shell or so of basic sense functionality throughout the whole phone.
You're not able to get rid of that, but if you use another launcher you already not loading up the launcher portion of sense. If you used the sense launcher, you'd see Sense go up to over 100MB, since the basic sense of 35 + the launcher of about 70 something will kick you over 100MB. So the fact that it still sits in the 30s shows you're not using the launcher, but Apex or Nova or whatever is probably taking up 50-70MB itself.
Right, so really no win unless you root and disable... thanks for the input all.
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Thanks for your post. I like AOSP so much better, and hadn't even thought of removing htclockscreen and also using click and browser. Gonna give it a shot. Can't wait til we get AOKP functional.
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Is there a mod that would let me just have one homescreen when using Sense as my launcher?
I know I can do it with other launchers like Launcher Pro (which I have used 99% of the time on my OG Evo). I've seen mods/tweaks that let you change the # of homescreens but the minimum I've seen is 3.
I really prefer having just one homescreen and I'd like to see that happen in Sense. I've been poking and searching around but I haven't stumbled on anything yet.
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Is there a mod that would let me just have one homescreen when using Sense as my launcher?
I know I can do it with other launchers like Launcher Pro (which I have used 99% of the time on my OG Evo). I've seen mods/tweaks that let you change the # of homescreens but the minimum I've seen is 3.
I really prefer having just one homescreen and I'd like to see that happen in Sense. I've been poking and searching around but I haven't stumbled on anything yet.
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If you press home button again from the main screen to the view with all your screens, you can hold down each and drag it up to the X and remove them.
I feel like such a noob haha. Ok down to one homescreen now, but can I disable the scrolling? It doesn't make sense (lol) to be able to scroll the screen to the same homescreen over and over.
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I feel like such a noob haha. Ok down to one homescreen now, but can I disable the scrolling? It doesn't make sense (lol) to be able to scroll the screen to the same homescreen over and over.
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Don't know how/if you can do that.
Mikeys rom has the spinning top mode removed. Isnt there an option in leedroid tweaks to disable it? Havent used sense in a long ass time so i dont remember. There should be other roms with it removed.
leedroid tweeks does not appear to have any settings like this.
What rom you using?
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What rom you using?
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MidnightRom 1.2.7
I'm actually on an Evo V with Virgin Mobile, but it's the same phone as the 3D.
It's weird that I'm even trying to do this. I WAS using LauncherPro which has always been my preferred launcher. I'm not sure if it's a problem with this rom when using LP or what, but I've noticed that frequently enough when I would return to the homescreen from an app that there would be a black bar the size of the status bar right underneath the status bar, like blank space. It would stay there until I did something like go to the app drawer and then return home.
It doesn't seem to occur when using Sense, so I'm seeing if I can tweak Sense to my liking.
Same deal for me using LP.
It hasn't been updated since March. Hopefully it hasn't been abandoned.
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Oh well it's at least good to know it's not just happening to me. I thought maybe there was something off in this rom that might be causing the problem, but looks like it could be an issue with LP if you experience it too.
Try adw. I personally recommend nova or apex though. Lp was my go to when i had a hero. Havent used lp in almost a year now.
Yeah it's a LP bug. Does it real bad if you use the google search widgit. I've tried every launcher out there, and LP is still my favorite. So, hopefully it will get an update.
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