Just a quick question here, something which takes me a while when setting up a new Rom.
Is there anything which can copy your homescreens layout and then restore it after flashing a new Rom?
Titanium puts the exact apks back in the system with the same data but it'd be nice to have something to put the folders and apps back too.
Any ideas?
Based on sense roms ICS.
CHEERS.
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4Ext recovery control does. Advanced backup selecting only data and flash new rom, then restore data partition
schmeggy929 said:
4Ext recovery control does. Advanced backup selecting only data and flash new rom, then restore data partition
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How well does this work?
abdeviation said:
How well does this work?
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I've heard doing that works well since it restores home screens, apps, and data, but can cause problems if restoring data between roms, especially between odex and deodex.
You may want to consider a different launcher like ADW EX or Apex. Both have backup and restore capabilities built in.
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4Ext recovery control does. Advanced backup selecting only data and flash new rom, then restore data partition
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My apologies, maybe I should have been more precise with what I asked, I automatically assumed that everyone would do at least a superwipe prior to flashing a new Rom, you can't report issues without it.
So to reiterate, is there a way to get your home screens back the way they were after a superwipe?, Its only as it is a pain in the arse to get it back to normal again.
but ill give that a whirl anyway,
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coal686 said:
You may want to consider a different launcher like ADW EX or Apex. Both have backup and restore capabilities built in.
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I only use sense. Nothing comes close.
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dladz said:
I only use sense. Nothing comes close.
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I understand the loyalty, especially on ICS. But I purchased ADW EX when it was 10 cents and have now been playing with Apex Launcher and they are smooth. If you miss the sense widgets, Android Pro Widgets (for agenda, friendstream, etc) and Beautiful Widgets (for the clock) are good substitutes.
Having said that, I currently run Sense too, so like I said, I understand your reluctance to switch.
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I understand the loyalty, especially on ICS. But I purchased ADW EX when it was 10 cents and have now been playing with Apex Launcher and they are smooth. If you miss the sense widgets, Android Pro Widgets (for agenda, friendstream, etc) and Beautiful Widgets (for the clock) are good substitutes.
Having said that, I currently run Sense too, so like I said, I understand your reluctance to switch.
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Yea I hear you there, but it isn't just the widgets its the whole feel of it, even the phone book is better, on stock all you get is a line of code which would normally link to fb.
Sense integrates everything really well, and they have come on in leaps and bounds in terms of performance.
I do sometimes make the switch to the stock look but I'm always drawn back.
Thanks tho m8
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dladz said:
Yea I hear you there, but it isn't just the widgets its the whole feel of it, even the phone book is better, on stock all you get is a line of code which would normally link to fb.
Sense integrates everything really well, and they have come on in leaps and bounds in terms of performance.
I do sometimes make the switch to the stock look but I'm always drawn back.
Thanks tho m8
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Not trying to convince you to change, but fyi, the launchers I mentioned still allow use of the sense apps, just not the widgets. So, the phone book, dialer, gallery, camera app, etc are still sense. They do not require you to use any stock ASOP apps.
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I prefer SPB Mobile Shell 3D, but I am noticing that Sense is running concurrently. If I switch to Sense, it comes up instantly, and all the widgets are running/etc.. How can I stop this? I love Mobile Shell 3D, but if Sense is being a hog, I might have to learn to like it...
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welcome to the world of locked bootloaders
not until this thing gets rooted
edit: you can probably get adw or launcer pro but im not sure if you can actually stop sense from starting.
remove all the widgets, etc off the sense homescreens, then go into settings>accounts/sync and make sure nothing is syncing that you dont want to.
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welcome to the world of locked bootloaders
not until this thing gets rooted
edit: you can probably get adw or launcer pro but im not sure if you can actually stop sense from starting.
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Maybe I misunderstand how launchers work... on an AOSP ROM, when I load up Mobile Shell 3D, does that prevent ADW or LauncherPro from working? This experience so far makes me think of WM6.5, where stuff was just an overlay.
You can stop Sense and use a different launcher but you obviously can't remove it from your phone(yet). Infact some of the system files will still be running regardless if you stop it.
like they said, just clear out ur sense homescreens and set ur preferred launcher as default, u have enough ram so noting to worry bout as far as memory usage
if u change the default to spb then restart the phone then sense might not start up... it will show if its running in the running apps menu
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if u change the default to spb then restart the phone then sense might not start up... it will show if its running in the running apps menu
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Sense will still run. The phone needs the Sense framework to run even if you use launcherpro or any other launcher as the default. You'll have to wait until the phone is rooted with unlocked bootloader in order to fix this with an AOSP rom.
I'm not even referring to the Sense framework... I mean the homescreen itself... it still runs. Upon reboot, Sense homescreen appears, then SPB pops up over that... it bothers me so much that I uninstalled SPB 3D until this phone is rooted with an AOSP ROM.
read as: I'll probably just never use SPB Mobile Shell 3D ever again. Oh well.
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I'm not even referring to the Sense framework... I mean the homescreen itself... it still runs. Upon reboot, Sense homescreen appears, then SPB pops up over that... it bothers me so much that I uninstalled SPB 3D until this phone is rooted with an AOSP ROM.
read as: I'll probably just never use SPB Mobile Shell 3D ever again. Oh well.
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The Sense 3 launcher is pretty damn nice, at least you won't miss much, and will gain some nice Sense widgets.
Also, just because the Sense Launcher (Rosie) is chilling in RAM doesn't mean it's running.
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The Sense 3 launcher is pretty damn nice, at least you won't miss much, and will gain some nice Sense widgets.
Also, just because the Sense Launcher (Rosie) is chilling in RAM doesn't mean it's running.
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It's running, because if I remove default homescreen in Applications, and hit home again to go to Sense, it just pops up instantly... not like when the phone is booting, or when I chose a different homescreen on my Evo.
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remove all the widgets, etc off the sense homescreens, then go into settings>accounts/sync and make sure nothing is syncing that you dont want to.
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No? Changing any of the accounts/sync options is a global change, regardless of what launcher you are using.
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It's running, because if I remove default homescreen in Applications, and hit home again to go to Sense, it just pops up instantly... not like when the phone is booting, or when I chose a different homescreen on my Evo.
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Don't all the applications on the phone pop up instantly? Could it be that the phone is just that fast? (Honest question, not trying to be a jerk)
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It's running, because if I remove default homescreen in Applications, and hit home again to go to Sense, it just pops up instantly... not like when the phone is booting, or when I chose a different homescreen on my Evo.
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That's because it's already loaded in RAM. Like I said, in RAM doesn't mean running.
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That's because it's already loaded in RAM. Like I said, in RAM doesn't mean running.
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Perhaps one could use a task manager of sorts to see how much CPU/RAM it is using. I'd prefer for it to not use it at all. I liked how on Windows Mobile, you could kill off the homescreen--because it was basically a widget.
Love the new higher resolution on the 3VO, but one thing I have noticed it seems too tall for only 4 icons top to bottom, seems like it could almost handle 5 rows tall ?
Could custom Rom allow that change ?
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Not even a custom rom, Launcher-Pro ADW_Launcher etc has the ability to handle additional icon rows/cols if I remember right.
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Not even a custom rom, Launcher-Pro ADW_Launcher etc has the ability to handle additional icon rows/cols if I remember right.
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correct, i love the new sense 3.0,but dumped their home launcher on first day for ADW
i now have 6 rows of icons with the 3D resolution, and 5 columns of icons (compared to the 4row 4col with sense)
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correct, i love the new sense 3.0,but dumped their home launcher on first day for ADW
i now have 6 rows of icons with the 3D resolution, and 5 columns of icons (compared to the 4row 4col with sense)
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I will have to try that. I really need more than 4x4 on this phone.
I looked up ADW launcher in the Market, all the recent comments say it force closes and freezes up a lot ?
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HOnestly I find ADW to be crap in comparison to Launcher Pro.
ADW i've always had issues with from 2 years ago even till now.
Zorachus said:
I will have to try that. I really need more than 4x4 on this phone.
I looked up ADW launcher in the Market, all the recent comments say it force closes and freezes up a lot ?
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well im using ADW EX on the 3D with no force closes
i think you're reading about the free one
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well im using ADW EX on the 3D with no force closes
i think you're reading about the free one
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Does it effect the new Sense lock screen ?
Or take up more memory slowing down the phone at all ?
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HOnestly I find ADW to be crap in comparison to Launcher Pro.
ADW i've always had issues with from 2 years ago even till now.
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curios, why you say crap?
like what advantage or things does launcher pro do that ADW cant?
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Does it effect the new Sense lock screen ?
Or take up more memory slowing down the phone at all ?
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effect in what way?
the only thing is, if you choose ADW as your launcher(or probably any other launcher), when you hit the personalize button, it wont do anything. Meaning you cant change the options for lockscreen and stuff.
I dont know how much memory ADW takes up, but I see no ill effect (plus we have more memory than previous evo 4G anyway)
It doesnt slow my phone down at all (had it on evo 4G didnt slow it down either)
HOWEVER, all you have to do is change back to the sense launcher, do your changes, then set ADW back to your standard launcher. Easy
I really suggest you try it if you want to truly customize your homescreen,its literally like about 100more features to ADW than the standard sense,even with it being 3.0
When I had my Evo 4G there was something you could flash on top of a custom ROM to allow 5x4 for sense so I'm sure it'll be possible eventually.
With ADW/AWD ( always get that wrong, sorry) I had my share of problems ranging from FC's (Force Close) every so often restarting the entire launcher.
But my #1 main issue with it happened no matter what ROM i'd be using. The icon bars would randomly disappear and would not re-appear till I reboot the phone. Even when I tried to restore backups of the launcher (build in feature) it wouldnt fix it till I reboot.
Never had that with Launcher Pro, and LP seemed cleaner all in all.
Both are good dont get me wrong, but in my personal experience one certainly was better than the other.
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With ADW/AWD ( always get that wrong, sorry) I had my share of problems ranging from FC's (Force Close) every so often restarting the entire launcher.
But my #1 main issue with it happened no matter what ROM i'd be using. The icon bars would randomly disappear and would not re-appear till I reboot the phone. Even when I tried to restore backups of the launcher (build in feature) it wouldnt fix it till I reboot.
Never had that with Launcher Pro, and LP seemed cleaner all in all.
Both are good dont get me wrong, but in my personal experience one certainly was better than the other.
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I use LPP and love it, got the 5x4 setup going on. its great.
I agree HTC kinda messed that up. It's okay for most widgets but definitely too much space for apps. And multicon (my saving grace on the EVO) looks messed up...
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awenthol said:
I agree HTC kinda messed that up. It's okay for most widgets but definitely too much space for apps. And multicon (my saving grace on the EVO) looks messed up...
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Just use LPP or ADW
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I put Launcher Pro on my 3VO and I have to say, I love my phone 100 times better. I was seriously not very impressed with this phone, but now that I have more control over everything, I love it. Get it!
Is there any way to disable Sense if I'm using Nova or another 3rd-party launcher? I still have Sense running in the background eating up resources even though I'm not using it... ugh.
No sir.... Best bet is to flash the somesense Rom and use a custom launcher. The only other way to do it is through an aosp Rom. Currently we have a pretty smooth cm9 in the dev section, but it doesn't have a few vital things working yet
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That sucks, but thanks very much for the info
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Is there any way to disable Sense if I'm using Nova or another 3rd-party launcher? I still have Sense running in the background eating up resources even though I'm not using it... ugh.
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You can freeze our uninstall the sense launcher along with any apps/widgets you don't use if you have a third party launcher installed. I've done this. I wouldn't go uninstalling things without knowing what it is first.
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That requires root I assume?
Yes and a lot of research as you might disable a vital component on accident and then you have to really flash a new Rom.
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That requires root I assume?
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Yes, to freeze sense and other widgets u need to root. Wish u didn't. Hate having to give up twc tv on phone and renting movies thru google play. But I guess torrents and better multitasking will make up for it...
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As stated above, you must be rooted to do this stuff, but in case you wanted to know...
I uninstalled just about every sense element I could find in TitaniumBackup and use Apex launcher in place of the stock one. Interestingly, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the stock ICS lockscreen popped up after uninstalling the sense lockscreen, so I don't have to run any 3rd party LS app. Also I have uninstalled the stock browser and clock, replacing them with the apks I pulled from CM9, mostly because I like the look and feel a little better, but also sense alarm wouldn't display on the ICS LS--CM9 alarm does. I had the CM9 message app on my LTE also, but found I was unable to send or receive MMS. I didn't really investigate too much further to try to get it working and I don't know if it is even possible. EX Dialer offers a more appealing phone app than does the sense version as far as I'm concerned.
There are ways to make your phone look differently, but as you said sense eats up the background, and I feel the CM9 apps run a little lighter. I enjoy a much better experience without the Sense stuff as it feels a little closer to AOSP now.
Good luck should you decide to try some of the suggestions, and remember, always always have a backup.
How did you remove the location icon?
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No sir.... Best bet is to flash the somesense Rom and use a custom launcher. The only other way to do it is through an aosp Rom. Currently we have a pretty smooth cm9 in the dev section, but it doesn't have a few vital things working yet
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What kind of vital things? Is it stable enought to use as a daily?
The part of sense that is still running is the 35MB shell or so of basic sense functionality throughout the whole phone.
You're not able to get rid of that, but if you use another launcher you already not loading up the launcher portion of sense. If you used the sense launcher, you'd see Sense go up to over 100MB, since the basic sense of 35 + the launcher of about 70 something will kick you over 100MB. So the fact that it still sits in the 30s shows you're not using the launcher, but Apex or Nova or whatever is probably taking up 50-70MB itself.
Right, so really no win unless you root and disable... thanks for the input all.
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Thanks for your post. I like AOSP so much better, and hadn't even thought of removing htclockscreen and also using click and browser. Gonna give it a shot. Can't wait til we get AOKP functional.
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Anyway to remove a widget without selecting it in Sense?
I'm using MeanROM v24 (So far I like it! Good Job Guys!) I added the Google Calendar widget. Then changed to size to take up the entire screen and HTC Sense crashed.
So now every time I try and go back to Sense it crashes while loading the screen. I'm assuming it is the widget I just added that is causing the crash. Is there a way to remove the widget without doing a reset?
You can try removing the widget's app with Titanium Backup then reinstalling without data. Should fix it.
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Try clearing the data on the HTC sense app. Go to Settings, Apps, All, HTC sense and clear data. You will have to reset your widgets, but that's better than a wipe.
On a side note, I read from somewhere else that due to the 4x5 Rosie tweak that Mikey incorporated, setting a widget to fill screen in sense will do that. The above procedure I gave was the way the person fixed it if I remember right.
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Thanks!
coal686 said:
Try clearing the data on the HTC sense app. Go to Settings, Apps, All, HTC sense and clear data.
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That did the trick.
There are two HTC Sense apps. Clearing the data from the second one (with widgets for the icon) did the trick.
Thanks for the help!
UserDave: How were you able to get into settings before sense crashed? I've been trying to help others with this and they say they cannot get into settings before sense crashes.
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Easy. From the lockscreen pick a quick launch app. Then pull down the status bar and switch to the quick settings. Then pick settings. Then apps. Good luck!
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Try clearing the data on the HTC sense app. Go to Settings, Apps, All, HTC sense and clear data. You will have to reset your widgets, but that's better than a wipe.
On a side note, I read from somewhere else that due to the 4x5 Rosie tweak that Mikey incorporated, setting a widget to fill screen in sense will do that. The above procedure I gave was the way the person fixed it if I remember right.
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So is having a full screen widget like GMail not possible in this ROM? I was getting the same Sense force close loop after I tried to add and enlarge the GMail widget. Happened two times.
clankfu said:
So is having a full screen widget like GMail not possible in this ROM? I was getting the same Sense force close loop after I tried to add and enlarge the GMail widget. Happened two times.
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Some widgets seem to show full screen by default (like the Sense widget for the calendar agenda), but I would not resize past 4x4. You could use the extra row for something else (like quick settings on each home screen or something).
clankfu said:
So is having a full screen widget like GMail not possible in this ROM? I was getting the same Sense force close loop after I tried to add and enlarge the GMail widget. Happened two times.
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it might be a bug in that Rom , full screen gmail widget on sense works fine for me on coolexe's Rom .
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it might be a bug in that Rom , full screen gmail widget on sense works fine for me on coolexe's Rom .
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Yea, I guess so. I'm thinking about giving ZR3DX a go. My biggest gripe with MeanRom so far is slow wifi and data. Not sure if it's because of the ROM or something else.
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Yea, I guess so. I'm thinking about giving ZR3DX a go. My biggest gripe with MeanRom so far is slow wifi and data. Not sure if it's because of the ROM or something else.
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I'm on zr3dx at the moment and have no slowness on Wi-Fi or 4g. On 3g it is slow sometimes, but Sprint 3g is sometimes slow. Plus, I took the latest prl which seems to be causing issues.
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it might be a bug in that Rom , full screen gmail widget on sense works fine for me on coolexe's Rom .
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Does coolexe's Rom have the 4x5 Rosie? I didn't think it did. By the way, zr3dx does not have the 4x5 tweak so that is not an issue. I thought I would miss it, but with Leedroid Tweaks built-in, I don't.
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coal686 said:
I'm on zr3dx at the moment and have no slowness on Wi-Fi or 4g. On 3g it is slow sometimes, but Sprint 3g is sometimes slow. Plus, I took the latest prl which seems to be causing issues.
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Are you on 21090? My data speeds have been awful since that update.
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Are you on 21090? My data speeds have been awful since that update.
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Yes, but it had been so long since I updated my prl that my data speeds were awful before the update too. That's why I took the update. I did read somewhere that with all the network changes, Sprint will be updating prls often, so maybe the next one will fix things soon.
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Yes, but it had been so long since I updated my prl that my data speeds were awful before the update too. That's why I took the update. I did read somewhere that with all the network changes, Sprint will be updating prls often, so maybe the next one will fix things soon.
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21089 was really good for me. I was getting 1-1.5 mbps down on 3G. Now, I'm happy if I break 200 kbps and I constantly see the "1X" above my data icon.
So I'm loving this One, but some of the stock apps I'm not liking (primarily MMS, mail, browser, keyboard, launcher)
I've installed Nova, Chrome, Swiftkey, chomp, and gmail, which are doing a great job of replacing and I've nearly got the phone in a good place.
My problem is that the Sense lockscreen still shows the stock apps, including indicators for new text messages i've already read via chomp. Now that I'm using Nova Launcher, I can't figure out how to modify the sense lockscreen to change the apps that are at the base there.
Almost all of this is being done because while I like blinkfeed enough, I already use Flipboard and don't want that as my initial screen and it seems like Sense isn't going to allow us to have a more traditional homescreen with blinkfeed to the left or right. I'm also not a huge fan of swapping between modes of blinkfeed+icons and traditional home screen.
I'm posting this here in T-mo General looking for advice because flashing another ROM isn't an option for me. My understanding is that flashing a ROM will lose the wifi calling capability, and that is really important for me. What would you guys do?
You should only lose wifi calling if you flash a AOSP based ROM. I understand that you want to "de-sense" you're phone so an AOSP ROM would be your best bet.
This phone is brand new so development is still slow right now but I bet you should start seeing some Sense-based ROM's without all the Sense bloat start popping up soon
In regards to your lockscreen issue, have you looked into using a lockscreen replacement like WidgetLocker?
Did you replace the icons in the dock on Rosie (Sense launcher).
I'm still using the Sense launcher and my lockscreen shows what I have on my dock.
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You should only lose wifi calling if you flash a AOSP based ROM. I understand that you want to "de-sense" you're phone so an AOSP ROM would be your best bet.
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Won't you potentially also lose some camera and other specialized functionality relative to the hardware?
That is correct. You will just have stock android camera without Zoe and all that jazz
I usually always go AOSP but I really like the camera features here. Gonna be a tough call
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My understanding is that flashing a ROM will lose the wifi calling capability, and that is really important for me. What would you guys do?
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You will lose wifi calling if you flash a non-tmobile rom, like one of the M7 HTC One roms or an AT&T rom.
elterible said:
That is correct. You will just have stock android camera without Zoe and all that jazz
I usually always go AOSP but I really like the camera features here. Gonna be a tough call
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Is it possible to flash the camera apk? is there a camera apk or is it part of sense itself?
I'm gonna take an educated guess based on my experience with Samsung. Usually custom camera apps are deeply integrated in custom android versions (sense, tw, etc). You can pull the apk and may even get it to install but my guess is that it will FC
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If you look in the AT&T sub forum of the One, there is a ahpla of CM10.1 which means that CM10.1 is being worked on right now for the One. I am sure it will work with all HTC Ones once it is done. I would give it a month or two and we should be pretty good off. It is still really early in the game.