With all the new head units that are "iphone like interface", who is going to be the first to hack android for these devices? Possibly someone will get smart and create a nice head unit with Android, but I don't think it's likely.
I saw an Android one on the web yesterday. Over $700 and it was Chinese text. Sorry but I don't know the url.
Carputers are common and easy these days and off the shelf orderable... Google "Carputer MP3" and with the recent addition of tablets we can do better than any OEM Setup with a little effort... a majority of stuff available is suuuper capable too
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There a lot of View 4G user like myself. Please Create a View 4G Section.
I agree
I agree with OP. Please at least put a separate section withing the Flyer section. You know like you did with the Nexus 4G? Thank you for all you do XDA...
Please, a subforum for View specific issues.
Please. I own a flyer and would get soooo pissed when a view owner would say they got netflix from the market on their "flyer"
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Yup, view forum please...
Here here! Bring on a new View forum!
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I only agree with the OP if he means a separate subforum within the main "Flyer" forum. There is very little difference between the Flyer and View. A separate subforum for one or the other (Flyer/View) for model-specific issues would be okay. But otherwise, it fractures and dilutes the information way too much. This is how it was for the G2 and Desire Z (separate forums). If somebody found a solution for something on the G2 (that also worked on the Z), the information would take days (or maybe even weeks) to spread on the Z forum. And even then, often people would just lazily say "look in the G2 forum", and you'd have to go searching around for it. It was actually a big improvement IMO when they eventually merged the G2 and Z forums into one.
Another example, was when I was on the Tilt 2/Touch Pro 2. Things went just fine with the Tilt2 being on the same forum as the TP2. People were just good about stating which model they had. Better yet, just put your tablet model in your signature, and you never have to worry about mentioning it in your post. There are way more differences between the GSM TP2 and the CDMA one, then there are between the View and the Flyer. And all they did for the TP2 was add a subforum for CDMA-model specific issues.
For that matter, there are probably as many (if not more) differences between the WiFi-only Flyer, and the one with 3G/4G. Are we going to make a whole new forum for them, too? Don't think that's a good idea.
If people can't even get the tablet model (Flyer/View) right when they are posting, that's their own stupidity, and there is no cure for that.
^^I agree. A subforum would be more appropriate in this case.
I also agree that the View should have its own subforum in the Flyer section.
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Agreed, however
I think a separate subforum would be nice, but I think us Flyer owners would rather not lose our View toting brothers to another area of the forums!
Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
I am disagree because what is the big difference?
And I am sure that no newbie knows this difference and ask only View specific questions in this subforum and only there. We will have still View questions in the general part and non-View questions in the View subforum only because the owner has a view.
What we need is a simple approach to mention always the Flyer type - like this is organized in many other device forums here.
I think just posting something simple as [view] or [flyer] in the title of a rom or something else your posting that is device specific.
I would like a new View forum too, because it will get even more confusing if people don't completely describe their devices, and everybody says it will work, but on what device? I hope XDA will make a new forum.
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Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
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I know I already posted on this subject, but I totally agree that it would be great to see a View General sub forum in the Flyer General section and a View Development sub forum of the Flyer Development section.
As someone relatively new to concepts like S-off and rooting, it would be nice to have a place to post quedtions and get device specific answers.
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Now that we have S-Off and we can expect development to begin, I think any future confusion when ROM development starts hitting in here can be avoided by having a couple of sub-forums. VIEW General and VIEW Development at least. Just my $0.02
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Its not rocket science, the dev should just say in the ROM description whether its for the View, Flyer, or both. If the OP doesn't say, then you ask, and either the the dev, or somebody else answers. This is how it works for every other device that I've owned.
From past experience, ROMs tend to work on all versions of a device, more so than not. If ROM Development subforum gets split up for the 2 variants, will the ROM dev be expected to post to both, if it works on both? If they don't, people will be stuck browsing both Development subforums, looking for ROMs which are compatible for their version.
Also remember the non-US 3G enabled tablet is called the flyer. I am currently running a rom for the view on my flyer, and other then the annoyance of the "missing" sim card it works fine.
IMO Simply stating View/3G or WiFi Only in the title of the rom should be more than enough. So far every fix for the flyer also works for the view. Separation is un-needed and potentially disruptive. Standardize the ROM labeling and we are golden.
Add another view owner to the /agree list for a subsection for us.
i think the forum should stay the way it is, users should be posting with the right device though it wouldnt hurt XDA devs to put HTC Flyer aka HTC Express (Sprint Evo 4g View) aka Flyer 3g aka Flyer Wifi
if people making threads cant post the correct device they shouldnt be making threads or trying to mod their devices
I did a forum search and surprisingly didn't see anything come up for this. At any rate, someone ported libpurple over to android but it lacks a gui, and probably needs a bit of polish.
I don't have enough posts to link to the project page but if you google pidroid it's the first result that pops up, some guy at university of waterloo in canada did the libpurple port, with the files available to download.
Maybe someone here could pick up the project and make an app out of it? I know myself and alot of others I know that use pidgin would love an android port, specifically for the OTR stuff.
1up: i would love pidgin on android
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i would like to see this as well
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i would like to see this as well
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Just wondering how futuristic pursuing development opportunity in android market.
I am currently low level software developer, dealing with software that interfaces directly with hardware. But I want to move away from it. Recently I started doing lot of android development using eclipse. I am eventually interested in doing something related as a career. I am wondering if anyone in this forum does android development as solely for passion or as a career.
Any contribution would be helpful.
getting signed up by a MNC would be good
It is all about ideas. If you have the right idea for a "must have" app you can pretty much write your own ticket. It should be universal enough to have global appeal and cover several generations. If I had the knowledge I'd write something that checks for what leaves the phone/tablet when there are no activities, where it goes and if it can be stopped. Not suggesting that people are paranoid, but the growing dependence on these devices means that people will be more and more concerned about their privacy.
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Oke guys, spread the word if you see it.
But i think its wise to start using prefixes [View] and [Flyer] in general section.
Since we dont have a separated Q&A.
So [Q][View] and [Q][Flyer] in General section will do.
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Wilco. Thanks!
Thanks for getting this done Whiskey. Hat's off to you for the hard work
why not have our own forum?
Their hardware might be similar but the software, which is what the forum provides, is not compatible with one another, so why not a completely separate forum.
Similar to how the TMobile LG G2x and LG Optimus 2x are extremely similar but still have their own forum. I understand if the View development section was dead, but we are actually pretty lively, especially since HC got released
Who can we address this too? Im sure all my fellow Viewers agree and fell the same way
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why not have our own forum?
Their hardware might be similar but the software, which is what the forum provides, is not compatible with one another, so why not a completely separate forum.
Similar to how the TMobile LG G2x and LG Optimus 2x are extremely similar but still have their own forum. I understand if the View development section was dead, but we are actually pretty lively, especially since HC got released
Who can we address this too? Im sure all my fellow Viewers agree and fell the same way
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Well you can send a pm to svetius, but time will tell. In the mean time we have at least a seperate Development section. I will also flag it to svetius. If we have a lot of requests it might be possible
I second, How about Flyer/View for General, Accessories, etc... Development as is as it allows cross development visibility
Against.
I have several reasons for this.
1. They are no more separate devices that and Evo 3D devices or the Xoom models. Themes, accessories, applications are pretyy much universally interchangeable.
2. There is an established inter-connected community who share information.
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That is only a part of what the site provides, granted it may be the part you are interested in but some are simply interested in knowing about themes, applications, accessories or just talking to other people with the same device. Why fragment the information?
To give a current personal example, if the view had a completely separate forum I wouldn't have done anything at all when the view HC update arrived because I simply would not have known about it.
So you dont own a view butvare still able to dev for it somehow?
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Pretty rare case I must say. Most if not all other devs only support devices they own and can test with.
Lucky for us they are merged so you could write up these guides
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I second globatron's sentiments. Before I bought a few Views, I had been browsing around the BB Flyer in store and reading up on the forum here as much as I could before making an informed purchase. If it wasn't for the information I learned searching through the sections before they divided, that the View and GSM/Wifi Flyer were evidently triplet brothers, I would not have made my purchases or gained the knowledge through the information given so far between all devices.
Segregating them from the start might have been smart move to reduce newbie errors, but on the other hand it also induces a 'forgotten twin' effect for the power users and developers.
Sort of like the Desire HD and Inspire 4G, they're both nearly same yet different sections are given for both, I feel it's probably tedious for those communities because they have to switch back and forth between both sections to keep up for new development and stay on top of the game.
Too much segregation might cause more harm than good, for reaching new features, (I wouldn't have known about capacitive buttons on HC Flyer) while in the end when it just takes a simple reading comprehension and disclaimer to make sure someone don't flash/follow the wrong material.
Despite what I said, I do think the entire top level Flyer forum should be renamed Flyer/View and the General, Themes&Apps and Accessories forums likewise to reflect this twin/triplet effect.
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Despite what I said, I do think the entire top level Flyer forum should be renamed Flyer/View and the General, Themes&Apps and Accessories forums likewise to reflect this twin/triplet effect.
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this would be a simple/good solution, who do we beg or bribe to get the change?
Glad to see View has it owns section now after that fire sell.
Forum update: We got Flyer/View Forum renamed with sub-forums also, thx to Svetius for setting it up for me. We don't need a forum specific to The View, this will do well as development continues to grow then Flyer and View will receive their own sub-forums.
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I am putting together a presentation on the iOS and Android platforms as part of an educational lecture series I'm going to start doing here in the next few months. The main goal is to educate people on how to use their new smartphone and or educate them on which platform suits them best.
Right now I'm looking for more material to mull over. . . Show me what you've got!
Not sure why type of info you're looking for exactly. Here's a few links you might want to read to get started:
http://www.android.com/about/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
http://developer.android.com/index.html
Well as almost everything you can take a base on wikipedia and their owners page and from there the fastest way would be to google every feature separated and search or make a comparision table (ive seen lots of them online) and comparing them with images from both devices an iPhone and for example a Galaxy S2 or a Galaxy Nexus or an HTC Rezound or your favorite and here are some of the pages you should look:
Android:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
http://www.android.com/about/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-review/
http://www.google.com/phone/#manufacturer=all&category=all&carrier=all&country=all&reset_filters=1
iOS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS
http://www.apple.com/iphone/ios/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/ios-5-review/
Both:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_operating_system#Mobile_OS_comparison
http://www.pcworld.com/zoom?id=208491&page=1&zoomIdx=1
That are the basics but if you want to make a real presentation you should include Windows Phone 7
Thanks guys, I'll check this stuff out! How I've gotten most of my stuff so far is Reddit and Google, this should help flush out some more of the presentation quite nicely.
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That are the basics but if you want to make a real presentation you should include Windows Phone 7
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Only problem with that is that I'm working solely with devices that I already have experience with, things that I've actually used. I have NO experience with Windows 7 devices. Considering that their market share has decreased, from 2.7% to 1.5% in the last few months, I don't see much of a reason to prioritize the inclusion of the Windows 7 platform. Depending on how things go the next few weeks, I may try to include RIM (BlackBerry). . . but the two main contenders are iOS and Android, mainly because of their vast market share and my experience with them.
Keep em comin guys!
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For your purpose i would recommend articles about android vs ios.
There's a good one on geek.com called "Android vs. iOS vs. Windows Phone 7". You'll have to search it on google because i cant post urls sorry.