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Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
How did the screen look? Some reviews say it looks like poo because of it being 3D. I think that shouldn't be the case.
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So how does the pic you took with 3D compare to Ur 4G?
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goldt said:
Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
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goldt said:
Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
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Thanks for this thread! Finally, not a thread from some POS attention whore. The pic looks great and I just may push my wife into getting a 3D as well. She was planning to get the OG EVO upgrading from a BB Curve
goldt said:
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
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Because the movie was captured with professional 3D equipment. The Evo 3D is true 3D, all you need are 2 cameras, just like you have 2 eyeballs on your head. The problem with having 2 fixed cameras though, is that they cannot pivot (like your eyeballs) in order to compensate for the distance between the cameras and the subject, so the 3D/depth perception will not always be that good, especially for closeups.
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Thanks for this thread! Finally, not a thread from some POS attention whore. The pic looks great and I just may push my wife into getting a 3D as well. She was planning to get the OG EVO upgrading from a BB Curve
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I agree, the pic does look quite nice ... even though I see plenty evidence of compression losses, that's not the camera's fault and can be easily fixed in the settings.
Thanks OP. I was having a hard time believing that HTC couldn't get a 5MP camera to take a decent pic.
Will be interesting to see how Vignette performs on the phone. By far, the superior camera app, because it limits compression.
The two cameras are too close together for the 3D effect to be as visible as what the movies are. Ideally they would be as far apart as both your eyes are but that's not very practical on a cell phone. The picture there looks pretty good to me though, not as good as what my DSLR can do but the lenses alone for that thing are more than that phone costs.
i'm not worried as much about the megapixel part of the camera or even the 3d portion... i just want it to be clear and the color right.
my evo 4g takes clear pictures but the colors are way off.
here's a picture of my bike taken with my EVO:
and here's what it really looks like...taken with a older Nikon point and shoot:
ps: thanks for snagging a picture with the phone though. the color looks better than my evo.... it does look grainy though.
Second picture is just about as good as the Samsung Epic 4G camera.
First picture is random (was going to look up what type of plant it was) and second picture is my friend's dock.
These look very similar to the quality of EVO 3D's camera.
samsung phone camera's do kick ass.. as a matter of fact the second pic of mine could have been taken with my old moment. too bad the rest of the samsung phone isn't as good as the camera.
this is a pic with my old Moment:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3kACqfLKhhFAPSAGYG6PNPBysbpwLdvsPkUAoJFAq4I?feat=directlink
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samsung phone camera's do kick ass.. as a matter of fact the second pic of mine could have been taken with my old moment. too bad the rest of the samsung phone isn't as good as the camera.
this is a pic with my old Moment:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3kACqfLKhhFAPSAGYG6PNPBysbpwLdvsPkUAoJFAq4I?feat=directlink
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Yep, I have some amazing shots with my Vibrant
Yeah my moms epic camera is way better than my EVO.
I noticed your in a Sprint store. Anyone know when they will be up for display? I assume not until the 24th? I think I want to see the phone in person before I decide.
I honestly do think that HTC is not as good as samsung probably when it comes to writing software. I honestly do believe that software customizations that samsung makes are probably much better than HTC.
Touchwiz is much more buggy than sense imo. Samsung just uses better sensors for their cameras
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goldt said:
the camera is not a true 3D camera.
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agh i wish htc just paid samsung for their camera sensors, it would make the 3D perfect. (well close enough). Or they could take out all the 3D, and just made the battery huge
fowenati said:
agh i wish htc just paid samsung for their camera sensors, it would make the 3D perfect. (well close enough). Or they could take out all the 3D, and just made the battery huge
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Their sensors are good, it's their optics and post processing that hurt the pictures.
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Their sensors are good, it's their optics and post processing that hurt the pictures.
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then htc needs to stop putting 10 layers on their damned lenses and keep one good GLASS layer that’s not protrududing from the damned phone so it gets frekin scratched.
/endrant
The evo 4g has the same sensor as the iphone4 IIRC....the lense and software not so much
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Since there is not yet an Evo 3D Q&A forum, I'm asking this here. I hope no one gets offended.
I know very little about 3D technology, but from what I gather, our Evo 3D will actually take two separate photos when in 3D mode and by virtue of the parallax effect, allow us to view them as a single 3D image on the phone. I get that and have no problem wrapping my head around the concept. I confused, however, about the 3D's video capture. I viewed some Evo 3D video content on Youtube and it appears to look like conventional red/blue 3D video, that is, it just appears blurry or out of focus to the naked eye. If I had a pair of those glasses they hand out at 3D movies, would the YT content look like a conventional 3D movie? I found a pair on Amazon for less than $4 shipped and if that's all it takes to view other folk's 3D content, I'll order a pair today.
Does anyone have thoughts or suggestions?
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Since there is not yet an Evo 3D Q&A forum, I'm asking this here. I hope no one gets offended.
I know very little about 3D technology, but from what I gather, our Evo 3D will actually take two separate photos when in 3D mode and by virtue of the parallax effect, allow us to view them as a single 3D image on the phone. I get that and have no problem wrapping my head around the concept. I confused, however, about the 3D's video capture. I viewed some Evo 3D video content on Youtube and it appears to look like conventional red/blue 3D video, that is, it just appears blurry or out of focus to the naked eye. If I had a pair of those glasses they hand out at 3D movies, would the YT content look like a conventional 3D movie? I found a pair on Amazon for less than $4 shipped and if that's all it takes to view other folk's 3D content, I'll order a pair today.
Does anyone have thoughts or suggestions?
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Saw it first hand. No glasses required.
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The videos actually upload to youtube as a side by side video, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi10cVU9B7U&feature=related.
If one has a 3d capable device, then the video is played back as 3d. however, if not, then the video is played back like it is above (assuming youre watching it on your 4g or laptop).
However, i have heard of people being able to use video editing software to put it into a stereoscopic red-blue type video and make it possible to use it with the 3d glasses.
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Saw it first hand. No glasses required.
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I don't mean on the device, I mean on YT.
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The videos actually upload to youtube as a side by side video, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi10cVU9B7U&feature=related.
If one has a 3d capable device, then the video is played back as 3d. however, if not, then the video is played back like it is above (assuming youre watching it on your 4g or laptop).
However, i have heard of people being able to use video editing software to put it into a stereoscopic red-blue type video and make it possible to use it with the 3d glasses.
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OK, I get it now. The clip I saw must not have been generated by the Evo 3D because it was the red-blue type. That was the primary source of my confusion.
The depth in 3d is better on the LG optimis 3d. is the a way to change the evo 3d depth to there's or to a different setting
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Please for all of us. Just go get the LG.
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liljacques said:
The depth in 3d is better on the LG optimis 3d. is the a way to change the evo 3d depth to there's or to a different setting
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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Everything he said. Also, with some 3d software, you can adjust the depth of field.
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The same 3d content viewed on both phones is going to have the exact same depth and or popout. All the screen is doing on either phone is showing two pictures, one to each eye. The same 3d source is showing the same two pictures on either phone so the 3d effect has to be the same on both.
I think you may be thinking of the camera and not the screen. The evo's cameras are farther apart and would likely make the point where objects appear to pop off the screen farther away on pics taken with the evo. However, if you view pics taken with the optimus on the evo it will have the same depth as when viewed on the optimus.
And to answer your question, you can only adjust the 3d effect in games not in any pictures or video. The games use computer generated images so the effect can be adjusted. In order to adjust the effect in pics and video you would have to photoshop the images seen by each eye which is not something the phone can do on the fly.
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Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
borgqueenx said:
Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Yes, the depth will be the same if you watch the same files on any of these devices. The screen can't change the media, only the media itself can change.
Do some reattach on how 3d stuff works and you will see what I mean.
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borgqueenx said:
Really? Or are you a fanboy of htc?
Because on youtube and on some topics here, people do say the optiumus 3d has more depth with the 3d effect.
Basicly you just said that the 3ds, evo3d and o3d all have desame depths, pop out effects...?
Maybe you can explain a bit more why people are saying the o3d has a better effect?
So if you watch a 3d movie, both the o3d, 3vo and 3ds will have desame effect, depths, pop outs ect?
You made me all confused
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Yes absolutely the evo 3d, optimus 3d, and the 3ds will have the exact same 3d effect when viewing the same source file, such as avatar 3d or any other prerecorded media.
What people are referring to when they say the optimus has more depth or the evo has more popout is the pictures and video created by the phone. Since the evo's cameras are father apart the two phones will create a different 3d effect even when taking a picture in the exact same location with both phones. This difference is due to the 3d cameras and has absolutely nothing to do with the screen.
The 3d effect simply cannot have any difference in depth when viewing the same prerecorded media. Do a little more research into how 3d works and you will understand this better.
people. i just asked desame at the optimus 3d section and this is what ive got:
You are referring to the differences in the cameras, not the screens. Optimus photos viewed on the evo will have the same depth as when they are viewed on the optimus. All these phones are doing is showing two 2d pictures on the same screen at the same time while blocking the opposite eye from seeing the other pic. The same 3d source will have the same 3d effect on both phones. The same source has the same two pics when viewed on either screen and therefore cannot have a different 3d effect.
Now if we are talking about different sources then of course the 3d effect can be different.
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Only true if one assumes that both handsets are using a parallax barrier of the same quality which works equally effective. This doesn't seem to be the case. (3d images on the O3D are supposed to be more crisp and the viewing angle is supposed to be wider as well)
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seems the optimus 3d uses another parallax barrier, so it makes the screen much better in handling 3d.
The viewing angles may well be better on the optimus but when you're in the sweet spot on the evo there is absolutely no bleed over from the other image. This can be seen be winking each eye independently. Therefore the parallax barrier isn't effecting the amount of depth in the 3d when viewed properly.
The amount of depth is determined by the source not the screen. I suspect when people say the optimus has better 3d they're either not viewing the same source on both or they're referring to viewing angles which has nothing to do with the amount of depth in the 3d effect.
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people. i just asked desame at the optimus 3d section and this is what ive got:
seems the optimus 3d uses another parallax barrier, so it makes the screen much better in handling 3d.
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How can a less crisp screen be more crisp? Hhmm
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Well thanks guys but at least with the 3ds it is possible to set the depth/power of the 3d effect. Maybe the optimus is set higher then the evo3d?
And will there be a fix so the evo3d takes better 3d photos?
It seems everyone agrees the optimus3d is better in that...
Most 3d games you can adjust it. When viewing a picture tap the picture select effects and adjust the 3d alignment to your hearts content. Make it appear far away or make it popout.
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3d games are very different than pictures and video. They are computer generated and therefore the 3d effect can be easily adjusted on the fly. I have two 3d games on my evo and both can be adjusted over quite a large range from off to a lot of depth.
Pictures and video are a different animal. On the evo you can adjust the overlay of the pictures, which is just sliding one pic to the left and the other to the right. Now this does change the amount of depth but on most pictures there is only one point where the image looks correct without the other image bleeding over. This feature is there to compensate for the evo's, cameras being unable to swivel like your eyes. The cameras can't go crosseyed like your eyes can when viewing something close to your face. Some images will get the other image bleeding over and this feature allows you to compensate til there is none.
The problem is everyone here seems to think some super quality screen on one beats the other. Lol.
Ignorant.
People don't even see 3d the same. Certain types of 3d may effect someone more or less than another.
The LG simply assist with focussing on the 3d content.
Thus the content appears smoother more in depth. When really as you adjust. The LG cleary does too.
That would help eliminate the card board effect somewhat.
I'm not a doctor. Technologist is more fitting.
Sometimes an analytical view can assist in providing a better understanding of a competitors technical advantage.
This technology will be used by all manufacturers soon.
Then Apple will pull a patent out their ass or some bull**** rebrand it and call it the new hotness your grandma wish she lived long enough to have.
Apple will get its way and we will all get the iPhone.
Of course by 5 years time Apple would of purchased Android.
Rebranded it.
Send it out in pieces.
Call it the new hotness you wish you would of lived long enough to have.
Sorry some dork shiet. But you get it. I think.
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I have great success with 3d photos, but poor luck with videos. For example, if I bring a knife towards the camera, it looks doubled, instead of 3d.
Also, recommendations for editing the 3d videos and 3d text effects.
Thanks so much.
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I agree with you the 3d video is worthless.
I had that originally until I noticed that where the camera focuses makes a difference. If focused correctly, the object coming towards you is clear. The problem is that the camera doesn't auto focus fast enough for quick moving objects.
I have taken several 3D videos and notice that the alignment of both lenses is not good. There is ghosting and crosstalk on almost every video I take, especially when looking at darker colors. Even when I hold the camera still, the right lens refocuses itself. I notice especially when I play the videos back on my
3D laptop. Is something wrong with my EVO or does it just take bad 3d videos?
Its possible your lenses are not in sync, I don't think there would be a way to fix it. How well does it play yt3d videos from the YouTube app? Are you using a screen protector? Dust/sweat/dirt on the lenses? All that can mess up 3d capturing too.
It plays 3d fine. I have Avatar 3D and it plays really well. It seems to be only the videos that I take. Here are some samples:
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I'd have it exchanged if you just got it. Don't let the store run the update and root that bad boy.