Changing to my appreciation/donation fund. I know I'm new here, and want to contribute where I can. That being said I want to contribute to the Developer(s) that get the phone root for us. In appreciation.
I know I could wait for HTC (if they) unlock it. But let's face it, we want it now and who knows if/when HTC will come through.
Again this is to express appreciation to the dev's. And duce this will buy you a few gallons of haagen dazs
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w9sig said:
I know I'm new here, and want to contribute where I can. That being said I want to contribute to the Developer(s) that get the phone root for us. In appreciation.
I know I could wait for HTC (if they) unlock it. But let's face it, we want it now and who knows if/when HTC will come through.
Again this is to express appreciation to the dev's. And duce this will buy you a few gallons of haagen dazs
If I'm out of line here then a mod can delete this, otherwise I'll start by and will keep a tally updated:
w9sig - 25.00
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thats great that u wanna help.....more the merrier.......head over to HAUS's thread....that where all the BIG DEVs are trying to bust this out.....thats where everyone is heading to chip in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100
All of the "BIG DEVS" ....heh
Anyways, Bounties always help drive developers to root things faster, Sounds cool to me.
1: Wrong section (this itself isn't development)
2: Bounties suck. Give someone a few bucks for helping you out if they're working on it. Don't hold money over their heads and tell them they can only have it if they drop their lives to give the public something that they're working on in their spare time.
Personally I think bounties just tend to start fights about who contributed what... hard to pay a bounty when 3 or 5 or 10 people contributed.
That said... I won't stop you from trying...
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1: Wrong section (this itself isn't development)
2: Bounties suck. Give someone a few bucks for helping you out if they're working on it. Don't hold money over their heads and tell them they can only have it if they drop their lives to give the public something that they're working on in their spare time.
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No they don't we don't expect them to "drop there lives" its just a bounty to raise money for the devs to show our appreciation and to reaffirm that all their hardwork will pat off besides rooting the evo out me down for five bucks
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Yeah big or small, doesn't matter to me. Since I'm such a newb, I don't know who is who.
Glad to see some think it's a good idea.
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All of the "BIG DEVS" ....heh
Anyways, Bounties always help drive developers to root things faster, Sounds cool to me.
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Did you get a 3d?
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Personally I think bounties just tend to start fights about who contributed what... hard to pay a bounty when 3 or 5 or 10 people contributed.
That said... I won't stop you from trying...
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Good point, ill just donate to those who I feel contributed the most I've read the whole wip s off thread so well see
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Haus isn't for bounties.. figured i'd relay his message since he's off doing better things
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Naw, no bounties please. They tend to make some people want to hoard information and are counterproductive
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Ok, I'll call it my appreciation fund. Thanks saw that.
0_o
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All of the "BIG DEVS" ....heh
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Did you get a E3D? I'd love to see you developing again. I'm not too sure what you've been up to recently since I've had my N1 but I remember you from back in the G1 days. Big ups!
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No they don't we don't expect them to "drop there lives" its just a bounty to raise money for the devs to show our appreciation and to reaffirm that all their hardwork will pat off besides rooting the evo out me down for five bucks
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My reasoning is the same as what Haus said. If you offer a bounty, people stop sharing information and try to get it done first and quickest because they know that only the person that gives the answer will get the money.
Example:
If I were to offer $500 to the first person to answer 50 specific questions... Do you think anyone would answer a post that said "Hey what's the answer to number 7?" Everyone would want to keep to themselves and not help anyone else.
Obviously this is different, but that's a more extreme idea to get the point out there.
If you feel like someone is working hard, or has worked hard... Donate a few dollars to them to give them something for their time. I really don't like the idea of bounties because it then puts pressure on people to keep going and ignore other things, as only one person will get the big bounty (if people actually even pay what they said they would).
Holy... I think I just saw Stericson. This phone is bringing people from everywhere!
BANG! from my shooter...
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My reasoning is the same as what Haus said. If you offer a bounty, people stop sharing information and try to get it done first and quickest because they know that only the person that gives the answer will get the money.
Example:
If I were to offer $500 to the first person to answer 50 specific questions... Do you think anyone would answer a post that said "Hey what's the answer to number 7?" Everyone would want to keep to themselves and not help anyone else.
Obviously this is different, but that's a more extreme idea to get the point out there.
If you feel like someone is working hard, or has worked hard... Donate a few dollars to them to give them something for their time. I really don't like the idea of bounties because it then puts pressure on people to keep going and ignore other things, as only one person will get the big bounty (if people actually even pay what they said they would).
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fair enough, you got me lol down with this fund
Of course I'm not opposed to giving some loot to those that deserve it though. I need to talk to the wife to decide how much I can give up to Haus (and probably others, he isn't the only one I've taken notice of) for his work. I'm sure we'll get root soon, so I'm not worried about forking over some money now to let him know I appreciate the hard work.
I'm pretty sure we didn't need a bounty for this phone to get rooted.
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I'm pretty sure we didn't need a bounty for this phone to get rooted.
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Nope, just the encryption key or for HTC to get on it.
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I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making a bomb kernel for our Phones once we get root! Because we will get root eventually! Anywhozle please state your donation and stay true to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Price: $469.99 (AMAZON PRICE i've been told)
Donations (6/30/11): $200 (WOW IN 2 DAYS, Gr8 guys Keep it coming!!!!!)
CLICK HERE TO DONATE AND CHECK GOAL STATUS TOO
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Since We are ROOTED NOW donate what you can, ANything Helps!!!! ))))
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I've edited a previous post of mine on the first page, but I'm going to repost it here as well in case anyone misses it.
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Since this thread has apparently been relocated, and the issues I raised with the original approach the OP took have been fixed, I can confirm that any donations going through the chipin link in the original posters post are indeed being directed at me for the purposes of raising funds to acquire an Evo 3D.
If the community sees fit to buy me the phone, I will be happy to develop for it, but I will not promise unrealistic miracles.
I can't promise that you'll suddenly win the lottery, or have better luck in life.
I can promise that any android device I own will get development time from me (yes that includes kernel development).
You should not feel obligated in any way to participate. The fact is, even if I don't get the phone, there is inevitably going to be a strong development community behind this phone. A good portion of teamwin have the phone, and given the strong sales it's a safe bet that there will be many other developers as well. Any participation in the OP fundraiser should be considered completely voluntary; I will not solicit anyone in this regard.
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I really am trying to figure out if this is violation of the rules of XDA. I see what you are trying to do, but others may not.
Also I believe this shouldn't be here either, but we'll leave those who have power to decide. Be prepared for people who are going to be rude.
Good luck!
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I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making bomb kernels for our fones once we get root! cuz we will get root! lol but anywhozle plz state ur donation and stay tru to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Start your Donations!!!! ))))
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Seriously? Need to stop and remove this garbage
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Language butchery is an art.
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Language butchery is an art.
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Language butchery is A art.
DDiaz007 said:
I really am trying to figure out if this is violation of the rules of XDA. I see what you are trying to do, but others may not.
Also I believe this shouldn't be here either, but we'll leave those who have power to decide. Be prepared for people who are going to be rude.
Good luck!
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I hope not, totally not tryin to break any rules or rub the wrong way, just trying to help, so mods if need be please remove thread. I'm sooooo not trying to start any trouble.
no head hurts after reading that
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I wanted to help net get a 3d so he can work on making a bomb kernel for our Phones once we get root! Because we will get root eventually! Anywhozle please state your donation and stay true to it, anything will help.... he said himself he will try to work on it. When I asked if he wanted the help in getting the fone, he modestly replied:
netarchy: "ticklemepinks, that's a loaded question heh, I won't turn it down, but I'm not going to solicit people about it either. if I get the phone, I'll work on it is about all I will say in that regard"
Start your Donations!!!! ))))
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It's nice what your doing but I think the link should come down. We all know how to send him donations. I have sent in many in the past to other developers.
I would like to do the same for Mik but we can't have a post for every dev. Im sure you see why they don't want us to post things like this.
Good luck with your mission..
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EDIT: Since this thread has apparently been relocated, and the issues I raised with the original approach the OP took have been fixed, I can confirm that any donations going through the chipin link in the original posters post are indeed being directed at me for the purposes of raising funds to acquire an Evo 3D.
I will be happy to develop for it, but I will not promise unrealistic miracles.
I can't promise that you'll suddenly win the lottery, or have better luck in life.
I can promise that if I'm able to get the phone, it will get kernel development efforts from me.
You should not feel obligated in any way to participate. The fact is, even if I don't get the phone, there is inevitably going to be a strong development community behind this phone. A good portion of teamwin have the phone, and given the strong sales it's a safe bet that there will be many other developers as well. Any participation in the OP fundraiser should be considered completely voluntary; I will not solicit anyone in this regard.
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Ok, if you want to do some kind of fundraiser type thing to get me a phone to work on, I won't turn it down (I'm no fool!), but you should do something with a defined goal and visible progress, not a post with my direct donation link.
The way you've got this at the moment does not look particularly good; there's no way for anyone to know what the total raised is, etc.
Also, this is probably in the wrong forum.
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Netarchy do you even want the 3D?
If you do then awesome and can't wait.
Why $549? you can get them new for $450 off CL or from me or from ebay so why $549?
What's with all the hate for this idea?
Net is one of my favorite developers and I can only WISH he would join the 3D family.
And how is this against the rules? This is done in every other phone section.. whats wrong with being here??
This forum is getting duller by the post.
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Netarchy do you even want the 3D?
If you do then awesome and can't wait.
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It'd be a fun phone to work on sure ;D If I were a rich man I'd prolly own most of the phones from all the carriers.
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What's with all the hate for this idea?
Net is one of my favorite developers and I can only WISH he would join the 3D family.
And how is this against the rules? This is done in every other phone section.. whats wrong with being here??
This forum is getting duller by the post.
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I do not care if they do this i just see no reason to raise $549.00 when you can get the same thing for $400 to $450 elsewhere.
The op just did it wrong i think is why many are upset because no way to track how much and my reason why $549? that is sprints over priced price not what you can get them for.
Id use 1 of my upgrades and sell it for $425 bingo saved 100$ already.See what i mean by the op? he just did it wrong is all.
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Why $549? you can get them new for $450 off CL or from me or from ebay so why $549?
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I just took the retail price off sprint.com cuz net is a verizon customer and not sprint, but if it's found somewhere cheaper great!!!! but Idk if we will raise funds soon enuff to get a CL or Ebay Evo 3D, so that was my reasoning
This thread should be removed. Where are the evo 3d moderators?? The development section has a lot of garbage in it
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I just took the retail price off sprint.com cuz net is a verizon customer and not sprint, but if it's found somewhere cheaper great!!!! but Idk if we will raise funds soon enuff to get a CL or Ebay Evo 3D, so that was my reasoning
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Isn't netarchy on tmob with a nexus s?
I admit that I groaned when I saw this thread but I have to say that I applaud the idea. Maybe a better method could be suggested? I have no idea what that is though. I know this has been done in the past but, to be honest, I've never paid much attention to "donation" threads.
I would be happy to donate $$ to get netarchy this phone. Not just to get him to root it, but for all he's given to this community!
sent my $5. i know it isnt much, but every lil bit helps
wait would he be coming over from Verizon? sprint gives 125 for jumping carriers and the 3VO is only 200 on new plans...they might even buy his old/other phone from him....im not sure if they will from another carrier but they bought my evo 4g back from me for 150. Phone only cost me 50 bucks.
ok, since we bombarded them over the source releases, I think in all decentcy we should return to say thanks. It's easy to picket and raise hell, so we should at least go clap our hands, they could of easily given us the big finger.
What is it i'm thanking them for again?
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ok, since we bombarded them over the source releases, I think in all decentcy we should return to say thanks. It's easy to picket and raise hell, so we should at least go clap our hands, they could of easily given us the big finger.
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At first I read this and agreed 100%. Then as I gave it more thought I realized that would be like a teacher thanking their student for doing their homework or you thanking your mechanic for fixing your car...that's what they are supposed to do...legally required to do (lets not start that whole 'GPL wiggle room' meme again)...and they did it late.
I'm glad they did, I'm not sure if the facebook assault had anything to do with it, but I'm not sure they deserve a thank you for doing what they are required to do.
Just checked and my phone still says no updates available.
Done!
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Just checked and my phone still says no updates available.
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Apparently you don't know what 'Source' is...
This doesn't mean they have an update for you to download, it means that they released a copy of their kernel.
They only release the source because they are required too not because we asked them. If that was the case well you know the story.
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Done!
Apparently you don't know what 'Source' is...
This doesn't mean they have an update for you to download, it means that they released a copy of their kernel.
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Apparently not, na just didn't read all the words.. still
Not only that, they released the wrong kernel source. They f'ed up
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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Agreed!
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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I build ROMs and Skins and can't even get people to hit a simple "Thanks" button so you don't have to preach to me about it. Not that you are your just making a statement. I have no problem giving thanks, but I never *****ed about the source in the first place. I only *****ed about the other thing.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Back down there sparky...I believe I phrased my reply to indicate that I was indeed on the fence with the idea. I'm not laboring over my decision but I want to give it thought. The kernel source is subject to the rules of the GPL. They paid nothing for it and only have to abide by the rules of the license. One of those rules is that the source code must be made available (within a certain amount of time? I keep hearing 30 days but I'm not so sure).
I guess I just used poor analogies. You don't thank someone for not robbing your house...do you?
That said, in the name of fairness (and human decency...towards a corporation that has already demonstrated a desire to screw us as much as we will allow?) I'm still considering my stance.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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zone23 said:
I build ROMs and Skins and can't even get people to hit a simple "Thanks" button so you don't have to preach to me about it. Not that you are your just making a statement. I have no problem giving thanks, but I never *****ed about the source in the first place. I only *****ed about the other thing.
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I appreciate all the work that is done here, and I'm sorry that I cant contribute to that work. I wasn't calling out everybody here, most people didnt hit their page, but those of us that did, I felt a simple thanks would be good in the long term future. You know, maybe the evo3, instead of them being like **** those guys that spammed us last year and never came back, they may be like, hey lets get them the goods again, all the thanks looked good on our fb page. Social networking has given us power, much more than the old 800 number, simply because all complaints and gratitudes are in the public view of the world. Plus as a species thats struggling, again, simple decentcy is refreshing, and whats wrong with that?
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Back down there sparky...I believe I phrased my reply to indicate that I was indeed on the fence with the idea. I'm not laboring over my decision but I want to give it thought. The kernel source is subject to the rules of the GPL. They paid nothing for it and only have to abide by the rules of the license. One of those rules is that the source code must be made available (within a certain amount of time? I keep hearing 30 days but I'm not so sure).
I guess I just used poor analogies. You don't thank someone for not robbing your house...do you?
That said, in the name of fairness (and human decency...towards a corporation that has already demonstrated a desire to screw us as much as we will allow?) I'm still considering my stance.
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I appreciate all the work that is done here, and I'm sorry that I cant contribute to that work. I wasn't calling out everybody here, most people didnt hit their page, but those of us that did, I felt a simple thanks would be good in the long term future. You know, maybe the evo3, instead of them being like **** those guys that spammed us last year and never came back, they may be like, hey lets get them the goods again, all the thanks looked good on our fb page. Social networking has given us power, much more than the old 800 number, simply because all complaints and gratitudes are in the public view of the world. Plus as a species thats struggling, again, simple decentcy is refreshing, and whats wrong with that?
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When I first read the post I didn't read all the words like I said. I missed the part about the source code.
People just aren't as appreciative as they used to be. Thats what I think mostly America has become. I do get enough thanks for what I do and thats why I keep doing it. I know people like it even though they don't always show it.
I actually talked to HTC this morning and the first words out of my mouth were that I love their phones and what they do.
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That's pretty compelling...in the short run. In the long run I would hope that you are proven correct and it's certainly worth a shot. If they don't learn from this, well, we can always attack them again.
I think I just might give them a thanks. All of that positive PR would surely help convince them to do the same in the future.
Well I stopped by their Facebook to say thanks as soon as they posted it. I hit them up in a polite way every day asking for it, so I felt that I wanted to thank them for doing it in a timely matter. Other companies and phones take much longer. Now, if I still had my OG EVO, I would not have thanked them for releasing today. I mean when did the GB update for the OG EVO come out? And they are just releasing it today? This is my opinion, not that anyone asked for it.
Apparently, I haven't posted enough to post to the development thread. Bummer. I wanted to thank Albert for his so easy to use thread on rooting my new Nook tablet. I made a donation, but then I got to worrying that I'm a cheap bastard, and didn't give enough.
So, my question is, what's generally considered a reasonable donation as a thank you to a developer?
Three dollar bill, y'all
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A donation is just that. It doesn't have to be any certain amount. I think the payee is happy to get anything. It's just basically a way to say "hey thanks for doing something productive that I use(d)"
Myself personally, I have received between 5-25 dollars previously. I normally spend about 5 when I donate.
Never feel like you didn't donate enough. I think 99% of the devs are happy you thought to donate anything.
Cheers.
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A donation is just that. It doesn't have to be any certain amount. I think the payee is happy to get anything. It's just basically a way to say "hey thanks for doing something productive that I use(d)"
Myself personally, I have received between 5-25 dollars previously. I normally spend about 5 when I donate.
Never feel like you didn't donate enough. I think 99% of the devs are happy you thought to donate anything.
Cheers.
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I dont think just useing the thanks button was enough. This was an awesome post.
I wanted to make sure Celtic had enough in donations to take his wife to a really nice restaurant, as I understand it she wasnt happy about how much time he spent the first two weeks of Development. So, I gave a bit less than $10 USD, figure they can go to just about any burger king in the UK for that much.
I agree. A thank you is always nice, but these people are working their collective tails off, and should be rewarded in a more tangible way!
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I agree. A thank you is always nice, but these people are working their collective tails off, and should be rewarded in a more tangible way!
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Indeed. However, times are tough all around. I try to donate at least a few bucks a couple of times a month. (paydays specifically) But there are so many awesome devs, it's hard to figure out who to donate to. I mean, at this point, fattire should at least have every flavor of nook device, considering all the work he has put into all of them. Bauwks, for obvious reasons. Indirect, Celtic, Gonce...all of them.
Hell for that matter, Steve Kondik should be able to retire.
Who is the culprit here? Someone must have said something. Man up and apologize to him immediately. He's one of the best themers/ modders on this site and it will be so sad without him. Please everyone, show your support for this great guy who has been making mods for us since day one. Show some damn appreciation and thank him. Send a donation if you can.
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im not sure what his deal is? i haven't seen anybody post anything but thanks to him for his work. the last thing this community needs is to loose talented devs. maybe this has something to do with lack of donations perhaps?
Who is Mike D??
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Who is Mike D??
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check the theme section.
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Who is Mike D??
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Only one of the best modders this site had. Aside from good ole andybones too of course. It's a sad shame that Mike won't be modding for us. A damn shame
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my theory is that it's not an individual or a few but the community. everyone was ranting and raving and showing impatience for his upcoming themes. when the time came to release he was underwhelmed from the thanks/donations afterwards. I could be wrong but that's my guess
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my theory is that it's not an individual or a few but the community. everyone was ranting and raving and showing impatience for his upcoming themes. when the time came to release he was underwhelmed from the thanks/donations afterwards. I could be wrong but that's my guess
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id agree with this but there's nothing wrong about people being anxious to get his new theme either.
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id agree with this but there's nothing wrong about people being anxious to get his new theme either.
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I agree but it must have been the end results. just hope it's not about appreciation. he already started to purge files and links. that's a possible bad sign to encourage others to look elsewhere. sure hope not because the rez is a great device
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I agree but it must have been the end results. just hope it's not about appreciation. he already started to purge files and links. that's a possible bad sign to encourage others to look elsewhere. sure hope not because the rez is a great device
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as ive said we didn't need to loose any devs. xda is still pretty busy for the rezound. look at rootzwiki, no one posts there.
Well that sucks.
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I think he specifically said in his mods thread that it had nothing to do with lack of thanks/appreciation.
Mike D's themes were legit. Seeing what he was able to do has pushed me into learning how to theme roms
IM sure he will be back one day...
He is just working more hours... If he got more donations for his work I am sure he could cut back on his hours.
But no one ever donates to the guy!
scrosler said:
IM sure he will be back one day...
He is just working more hours... If he got more donations for his work I am sure he could cut back on his hours.
But no one ever donates to the guy!
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Well donations are optional plus times are tough. I know ive thanked the guy plenty. Hope he comes back one day.
perhaps I'll start doing small things in his place. I'm not good enough to do total themes but I can certainly decompile/recompile,edit png colors and switch font color hex codes in the xmls
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Well donations are optional plus times are tough. I know ive thanked the guy plenty. Hope he comes back one day.
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Sure, they are optional, but people start getting demanding and the money helps put up with the idiots. I think the enjoyment starts to go away.
I always donate to those whose work I consistently use. But then I also buy apps.
There's a reason why devs want to dev for iphone even though there are more android phones out there. Android users tend to be cheapskates who would rather steal an app than pay for it.
cant blame the community . this one is the same as others. i know someone who was working on bamf rezound in the beginning said hed stop cause of the "community" and he did . we're not THAT bad, but quitting cause of that is kinda lame- though i do understand in away .
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Sure, they are optional, but people start getting demanding and the money helps put up with the idiots. I think the enjoyment starts to go away.
I always donate to those whose work I consistently use.
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Yes you do, thank you!
And yes the second part of that statement tends to be true. Users forget that Dev's are people with real lives and real responsibilities and that Android Dev'ing, for the most, of us is just a hobby like collecting Stamps or baseball cards. They seem to think that because we make cool things we are some giant company with the resources of many when in fact we are only one person trying to bring some fun to your device. But anyways.. You know that already and I am grateful for your support!
I don't know about the iPhone thing though. I couldn't deal with it if I had to. I love Android. Never really liked Apple. Hahaha
-Scott
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Yes you do, thank you!
And yes the second part of that statement tends to be true. Users forget that Dev's are people with real lives and real responsibilities and that Android Dev'ing, for the most, of us is just a hobby like collecting Stamps or baseball cards. They seem to think that because we make cool things we are some giant company with the resources of many when in fact we are only one person trying to bring some fun to your device. But anyways.. You know that already and I am grateful for your support!
I don't know about the iPhone thing though. I couldn't deal with it if I had to. I love Android. Never really liked Apple. Hahaha
-Scott
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honestly, I would still be on wp7 if verizon had one with lte and a bigger screen. Really enjoyed my hd7. Spent more time using my phone. Tinkering with it is fun, but didn't miss it jumping from winmo to wp7. Used to build my own roms back then, but haven't had the time to really dive into what makes android tick.
Ok I'll fess up. It was silverxbv2 who did it.
Hahaha
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I've seen these in other parts of the community...
Given the recent events, I believe the creed going forward should be "show some love".
While I don't feel it's limited to just devs, as members make XDA go in circles also, I do think the devs here need to know they're loved.
That said, I'd like to start by saying thanks to JoelZ, DMeadows, Scott, Con and a non-dev, dev, Marine.
I'm sure I'm forgetting someone but these are the guys that come to mind first...
I have made it a point in my XDA history not to post unless it's necessary or I'm trying to be informative. I generally stay on-topic etc so count this as an exception, lol.
Anyways, guys, you've all been so helpful to me, on a personal level. I've pm'ed a couple of you on various things and you've always been quick and genuinely helpful in your responses and that is awesome.
It's because of you I will be hanging onto my rezound for awhile, as you've made a few months not having CM a little less painful with all of your hard work, friendliness and enthusiasm.
I encourage other users to post their feelings, remarks, comments to their favorite dev(s) and be let them hear how awesome-sauce they are.
Thanks again
Sincerely,
This Guy
To My Fellow Devs!
ATTENTION:
lllboredlll - Confirmation number: 26842307SM800591Y
newtoroot - Confirmation number: 3CX930251A7310703
scrosler - Confirmation number: 6D2900849M833534X
JoelZ9614 - Confirmation number: 4M802412FA196464C
con247 - Confirmation number: 1VF984498F355111E
NilsP - Confirmation number: 85H06658602955846
who_mike_d - Confirmation number: 6XS8202351620744L
chingy51o - Confirmation number: 8P54219799070904M
This is my personal thanks to all the Developers on here. Without you, we wouldn't have the great things we do now. I want you to be reminded that your hard work doesn't go unrecognized, and hopefully you can continue to deal with us, the people, and still provide us with awesome products. If you read this, hit thanks.
Edit: There are so many others who deserve thanks and appreciation. For example, andybones is one of them, who is always helping out those in need. Also, people like us, who like to help others as well, and keep our patience intact when times get tough.
Special Note: Protekk, I'm sorry for the ones who drove you away from the Rezound community. I didn't pay attention to any sort of progress you had going, but I'm sure it was great since you have done a lot as a developer. I doubt you'll ever read this, but if you did, just know a lot of members feel bad as to what happened. Leave your legacy, Protekk.
Don't forget Newt, his ril fix was impressive. Thanks to everyone that helps folks around here. We have a lot of folks new to Modding in this forum. Lets be patient and help one another so we can all get more from and enjoy our device.
One thing I notice is that a Dev will get 20 posts of people praising them for their work, clicking the thanks button, and then one person out of that 20 says something dumb or is unappreciative and that is the one that gets the attention, and the Dev getting irritated about it. I sucks that there are a few unappreciative people out there, but I think the Devs need to weigh that against the huge majority of appreciative and thankful people.
The devs here do great, amazing work and deserve all the thanks they get.
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One thing I notice is that a Dev will get 20 posts of people praising them for their work, clicking the thanks button, and then one person out of that 20 says something dumb or is unappreciative and that is the one that gets the attention, and the Dev getting irritated about it. I sucks that there are a few unappreciative people out there, but I think the Devs need to weigh that against the huge majority of appreciative and thankful people.
The devs here do great, amazing work and deserve all the thanks they get.
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This, exactly.
It's not the community that's bad, it's one or two individuals.
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ATTENTION:
lllboredlll
newtoroot
scrosler
JoelZ9614
con247
NilsP
who_mike_d
chingy51o
This is my personal thanks to all the Developers on here. Without you, we wouldn't have the great things we do now. I want you to be reminded that your hard work doesn't go unrecognized, and hopefully you can continue to deal with us, the people, and still provide us with awesome products. If you read this, hit thanks.
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All of these guys are absolutely amazing at what they do. Thanks for the hard work. I appreciate all you guys do to make my phone better.
dont forget about the lurkers like myself. I don't say much, but i always hit thanks on a helpful post or anything i D/L. I don't say very much at all but I would like to thank all of the people out there who make this phone way awesomer than it already is. I'm not gonna drop names, but if youve contributed even in a small way, THANKS! (yes i just used the word awesomer)
I just wanted to bump this to the top so it is easily seen. I have modded multiple devices, and can say that the rezound has been the one with the longest learning curve. Our forum is junked up because we, as a community, have allowed it to happen. Instead of one newb learning, and posting a definitive guide on how to do some of the stuff, or a simple walk thru explanation, we have twice the threads. Before anyone jumps on me to do it, or that is why we need to search, XDA search sucks. I don't know enough to do this. I am still confused about the multiple hboots, and would want someone who knows their stuff, so would you. If you look at our stickies, they are all old. I have been on forums where all of the important info is in the top 2 stickies. Hell, Fattire helped the nook color forum learn how to build cm9 from source. (should check it out, that thread is amazing)So Veterans attacking newbs has got to stop. Newbs attacking Vets, and Dev's has got to stop. Attacking Marcus has got to stop. If we tried helping people instead of wasting all of our time holding them down, we would evolve as a community. I am not harassing, or blaming anyone. Thank you to all of those that blaze the trail ahead of us. Thank you to Nils, Joel,Bored, Newt, DMeadows, Protekk, paulie vicious, Con, and everybody else that has contributed to the Rezound. I may post here again to bump it up because this is one of the most important threads in general.
Edit: also want to thank all of the kernel developers, themers, and newbs.
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One thing I notice is that a Dev will get 20 posts of people praising them for their work, clicking the thanks button, and then one person out of that 20 says something dumb or is unappreciative and that is the one that gets the attention, and the Dev getting irritated about it. I sucks that there are a few unappreciative people out there, but I think the Devs need to weigh that against the huge majority of appreciative and thankful people.
The devs here do great, amazing work and deserve all the thanks they get.
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Cosign
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Thirded.
Andybones!!!!
Just saw your post in the other thread... that sucks, please don't be a stranger, you helped me a lot too... one of 2 XDA people I've ever bothered to Gtalk with, thanks for all you've done sir
Another bump. I have mostly been quiet unless I thought my contributions could help. I think the devs generally get the thanks they deserve, but not always.
Thanks, Scott, Con, antp, graymonkey44, NilsP, Newt, and SO many more. Don't let the negative get to you. There are SO many people here who never post a word who appreciate your work.
And to those of you who take it as your personal responsibility to jump on or flame noobs or anyone, just chill, ok?
I believe we can all be civil to one another and still have fun and teach/learn.
Thanks again to everyone who puts their time in and makes this a better place.
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I'm a big fan of many of the Devs here. Some I met in the Incredible forums. All of them are brilliant at what they do. Joel, Newt, bored, Nils, you guys are my personal favorites.
Some devs here are more humble and down-to-earth than others. Some are total head cases! LOL!
Nils is a prime example of a Dev who does amazing work, but doesn't make a spectacle of himself by obnoxiously tooting his own horn. But you can tell by his legion of loyal ROM flashers that his work is top shelf. He is very patient, helpful, and probably the best of the bunch when it comes to troubleshooting and technical support. Obviously, I'm a big fan. He's a class act.
Some folks here can't resist telling us over and over about how great they are, and it can get a little tedious. If your work is good, your 'thanks' meter, positive feedback, and donation balance should reflect that and be ego boost enough. Let the masses tell you how good you are. It'll carry more weight.
If we all tried a little harder to keep it classy and respect each other, this place might attract devs instead of running them off.
Thanks,
BBEgo
A whole lotta thanks son!
I do appreciate all of the Devs for putting real life things on hold to provide us those dope roms on their own time and dime. Words cannot express how grateful we should all be that these guys/gals put up a lot of their time and knowledge for us.
The least we can do is give a "Thanks" and search the Dev thread BEFORE you ask a question because 9/10 it has already been address/answered. Do not make your first post in a thread "When's the next update" or "Can you fix this" or "Why doesn't this work". If we were to do the simple things like that the Devs would be much happier.
Lastly, I would also like to point out there are many of us users who also spend quite a bit of time on this forum to help other users with the bit of knowledge they have. I think those guys/gals also deserve a shout out as well because they also do help make things a slight bit easier for the real deal Developers.
Just sayin
Favor
When I was young, when someone did something for you that they didn't HAVE to do, that was called a "favor". And the one lesson that I learned early in life is that you don't question a favor - you accept it. You say thank you. And just because you got one favor, don't assume you are going to get another one. You aren't "entitled" to anything as the result of a favor, nor does the person that did the favor HAVE to keep doing favors for you. He or she deserves your gratitude, if not a good deal more.
As far as I'm concerned these Devs, Themers, Contributors, Helpers, etc., are doing us, the Users, Flashers, Lurkers, etc., a FAVOR. Accept the favor, thank the person doing the favor, but don't question the favor.
Just sayin'......
Don't mean to be that guy but why didn't you include protekk.I appreciate his efforts and his willingness to come and help.I love all the devs and commitment just don't think we should leave out protekk
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Thanks to all of Developers and Themers here. Your work makes this stuff fun!
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Don't mean to be that guy but why didn't you include protekk.I appreciate his efforts and his willingness to come and help.I love all the devs and commitment just don't think we should leave out protekk
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you should explore other threads. the thought of a particular dev being aactive is up in the air right now
dyetheskin said:
you should explore other threads. the thought of a particular dev being aactive is up in the air right now
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i have read i just feel like he should not go unnoticed. to each is own. either way i think we all can agree we love each dev for the rezound
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i have read i just feel like he should not go unnoticed. to each is own. either way i think we all can agree we love each dev for the rezound
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I agree, although people may take it as a negative. We should stay positive for Protekk and hope maybe he really will give us the RIL.