Hello Atrix Owners,
I am thinking about getting an Atrix 4G tomorrow and I am currently using a Samsung Captivate. My question is for anyone who had an unlimited data plan and got the Atrix. Did AT&T make you switch from the unlimited plan when you got the phone?
Also, anyone who had a captivate and went to the atrix... would you say it was worth it?
I've owned a captivate. More that we have an unlocked bootloader, the only thing a captivate has on the atrix is a samoled screen.
I never looked back once I got this device. The hktw firmware feels so fast compared to the cappy's laggy touch wiz. Plus we can actually get a GPS lock.
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Also, anyone who had a captivate and went to the atrix... would you say it was worth it?
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Atrix > Captivate
It is worth it.
provoked said:
Hello Atrix Owners,
I am thinking about getting an Atrix 4G tomorrow and I am currently using a Samsung Captivate. My question is for anyone who had an unlimited data plan and got the Atrix. Did AT&T make you switch from the unlimited plan when you got the phone?
Also, anyone who had a captivate and went to the atrix... would you say it was worth it?
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call them and ask them to grandfather your data plan.
Get it now. And its only 1 cent from amazon its the best time.
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Get it now. And its only 1 cent from amazon its the best time.
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I wish I could do that... Too bad I am an existing user w/ unlimited data so... There is no way I would start over, but still at $100 + upgrade fee... it isn't bad.
no i had a captivate too and switched to atrix along with my brother. we both kept our plans and switch youll be really happy you did. the captivate was super buggy.
Make sure to tell them to retain your unlimited plan. My AT&T store here automatically dropped me to the 2GB plan. I checked when I got home online, saw this, then went through a long call before they could get a manager on the phone who could authorize putting me back on unlimited..............AFTER the rep told me it was not possible.
CaelanT said:
Make sure to tell them to retain your unlimited plan. My AT&T store here automatically dropped me to the 2GB plan. I checked when I got home online, saw this, then went through a long call before they could get a manager on the phone who could authorize putting me back on unlimited..............AFTER the rep told me it was not possible.
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I've had to go along with my family and friends whenever they need to upgrade. I can't tell you how many times I've seen AT&T associates try and drop friends and family to the 2GB without warning them.
When I went to get my Atrix they tried to tell me I couldn't switch my iPhone data over.
Go into the store and just makes sure you tell them you want to stay on the unlimited plan. After they get you all setup check your account right there in the store to make sure. You can keep your unlimited plan but sometimes they will try to switch you.
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joust to back up what many have said, I went from an iPhone unlimited to an unlimited 4g data plan when I got my Atrix, so they can do it in store, do not let them talk you into anything else. if they say they can't go to another store or something.
p.s. you wil be glad you did, I can hardy wait to see what this puppy can do now that it can be unlocked.
So ifu buy a 2g off ebay will it let me choose an unlimited plan and transfer it over to my atrix even though I've already upgraded to my atrix?
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If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
bfrank said:
If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
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You won't need a new SIM if you buy it off contract All they give you is the new phone
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If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
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you can buy off contract (out right), but if your $20 data plan is not for a smart phone. The system will automaticlly put you on the 2g data plan and you will lose your unlimited. Now if your $20 unlimited data is for a smart phone i would make sure that when you purchase the phone, talk to the rep and make sure that they still have you on the unlimited plan...there are way around this...hope this helps...
Currently using it on a Fuse on 3G
So the big issue is $20 per month plus ~$600 for the phone = unlimited data (2 years = $1080)
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$25 per month plus ~$150 for the phone = 2gig per month (2 years = $750)
Currently using less then 2gig per month but thats with the Fuse....struggling with what to do but I guess we need to see real prices first.
if your on a smartphone unlimited plan, you are locked in for unlimited data on any smart phone... you have tol let the rep know that you have unlimited data when you get the atrix...
I have the vibrant on a at&t unlimited plan that's non smartphone. Will I be detected & upgraded with the atrix 4g?
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
Just curious, why haven't they detected my vibrant?
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Because the Vibrant isn't one of the phones AT&T issues.
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
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This isn't the case. At least, it wasn't when I quit Radioshack a year ago.
All people on AT&T that had the original $20 unlimited data are entitled to it, for as long as they want. You just have to tell them you had it. They can check your plan to see if you previously had it, and if you did, will be able to keep it.
Although, AT&T royally ****ed me when I quit Radioshack(They cancelled my Employee Plan, and I lost all my benefits, they then went ahead and told me they have no record of me ever being a *customer,* so I wasn't entitled to the older plans.)
Again, this was a year ago; They might have changed things since then. I would call and ask.
Realistically, though, 2gb on a phone isn't the easiest thing to cap out.. Especially when the phone has built in Wi-Fi.
I am very interested the atrix and would luv to rid myself of the vibrant. I am going strickly american.
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This isn't the case. At least, it wasn't when I quit Radioshack a year ago.
All people on AT&T that had the original $20 unlimited data are entitled to it, for as long as they want. You just have to tell them you had it. They can check your plan to see if you previously had it, and if you did, will be able to keep it.
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Right, if you had an old data plan you can keep it. But AT&T categorizes some plans as "non-smartphone" plans, and if you get an AT&T smartphone they will notify you that they are switching you to a smartphone plan. I know multiple people that had this happen to them, starting around November.
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I have the vibrant on a at&t unlimited plan that's non smartphone. Will I be detected & upgraded with the atrix 4g?
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Yes because the AT&T system will automatically add a smart phone data plan. There is no way around it. Trust me
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
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Correct.
I still have my unlimited data plan from my first Tilt... used it for my Tilt 2.. and I plan on getting the Atrix 4G.
I assume I'm safe as long as I tell/remind/make sure with them, correct?
I'm on a non-smartphone unlimited data on my milestone due to AT&T not recognizing the phone.
My thought process is to get a Bell version Atrix if they are the same hardware as the AT&T and flash AT&T's firmware when it becomes available. That way AT&T can't recognize the IMEI and make me get the higher data plan. I'm currently on $10 unlimited data since i have the unlimited text.
Anything wrong with this thought process? Just curious. Thanks!
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Yes because the AT&T system will automatically add a smart phone data plan. There is no way around it. Trust me
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Nope, you're incorrect.
If Atrix has a new simcard format, and will force u to get a new simcard, then perhaps.
If standard old sim works with Atrix, you will NOT be upgraded/changed.
This topic was around for a long time, and I'm tired of seeing this. I've been using my simcard for about 5 years now, coming from HTC Kaiser to TouchPro to TouchPro2 to NexusOne to Captivate. Same 1 simcard. Same $20/unlim data.
In fact, I called AT&T (about a different issue) and decided to ask them outright about this policy. They specifically told me that they will not change your account to a more expensive data plan by themselves, unless you ask them to. So I asked (off the record) whether it's ok that I keep the same simcard and using same data plan (i use up around 2-6GB per month data) as I sell/buy my phones off contract. They said they don't care, unless they want me to change it, they won't.
So, 5-6 years with AT&T and 5 (soon to be 6) phones I changed tell me you're wrong.
My advice: sell your N1/captivate/g2/whatever, add $100/$200, get Atrix off contract, plop in the old simcard, never tell AT&T about it, and live happy.
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Nope, you're incorrect.
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There's a ton of evidence to the contrary, including my own experience. I bought an N1 outright and signed up for AT&T service. At the suggestion of a friend, I went into the corp store with an unlocked feature phone so I could sign up for the $15 unlimited data plan. I did, swapped SIMs, and in less than a day I got a text saying I had been switched to the 2 GB DataPro plan.
AT&T does IMEI scans, and if they are pretty good at telling which phones are smartphones. It's not 100% perfect, but pretty good.
That being said, there should be no reason that you need a new SIM for the Atrix unless you have a REALLY old pre-3G SIM. But, don't count on being able to keep a non-smartphone data plan.
stoli412 said:
There's a ton of evidence to the contrary, including my own experience. I bought an N1 outright and signed up for AT&T service. At the suggestion of a friend, I went into the corp store with an unlocked feature phone so I could sign up for the $15 unlimited data plan.
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Big difference being that you actually tried to go and get this grandfather $15/mo unlimited plan, which is no longer available. I got this plan many years ago, before iPhone, and just kept renewing my contract on the same terms, which AT&T was happy about. A year ago they already started doing away with unlimited plans, yet they gladly renewed my contract with unlimited data, even though I used the contract extension subsidy to get a new TouchPro2 from them, right from their store.
So maybe the moral here is that if you have the old plan with unlimited data - u can just keep extending it every 2 years without trouble. Cannot do that for new contracts.
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But, don't count on being able to keep a non-smartphone data plan.
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Oh, I've counted on that for last 5 or so years, and don't see why I can't in the future =)
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Big difference being that you actually tried to go and get this grandfather $15/mo unlimited plan, which is no longer available.
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Maybe we have our wires crossed here. Data Unlimited for non-smartphones is still very much available and is $15/month. But if you try to use it with a smartphone, 95% of the time they're going to automatically switch you to a DataPro plan for smartphones once they do an IMEI scan. This is exactly what happened with me. I signed up with a dumbphone, and within a day of switching my SIM to my N1 I got a text saying I had been switched.
Now if you are grandfathered into the old unlimited smartphone data plan, the absolutely you should have no trouble keeping it when swapping SIMs.
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I'm on a non-smartphone unlimited data on my milestone due to AT&T not recognizing the phone.
My thought process is to get a Bell version Atrix if they are the same hardware as the AT&T and flash AT&T's firmware when it becomes available. That way AT&T can't recognize the IMEI and make me get the higher data plan. I'm currently on $10 unlimited data since i have the unlimited text.
Anything wrong with this thought process? Just curious. Thanks!
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I plan on doing the same thing! Just got to make sure you get it unlocked some way or another! thats really the only thing you have to worry about...
I currently have the iPhone on unlimited data. I want to get the Atrix off contract and basically switch the SIMM card into the Atrix (I know I need a converter from the micro-simm to normal SIIM). However, I was wondering if anyone knew if that would mess with my contract and getting my unlimited data on my Atrix? Can ATT see that I hate their new data plans and cut me off? Any help?
I don't think you will have any problem at all. As long as you are paying for unlimited data, AT&T could care less what device you have.
Plus, it has been confirmed that if you have unlimited data, you will not lose it just because you buy the Atrix.
I just preordered my Atrix and to get the extra 100$ off (which lowers the cost to 199) I actually had to change my iPhone Unlimited plan to a normal smartphone unlimited plan. If I kept my plan the same the phone kept costing me 299$. Odd but it worked out in the end.
Yes. You can keep your unlimited data.
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I am also going from iphone4 to Atrix, does anyone know the best way to sync with Outlook using Atrix/Android?
Thanks!
I think the unlimited data on I phone is different from unlimited data for other devices, no? Like how it its with blackberry?
To sync with out look I believe you sync it with your google account
Shouldn't be a problem.
I bought the iPhone 4 through upgrade when it came out. It came with the micro sim and automatically deactivate my old sim. With an adapter I could use that micro sim in my HTC Desire and got onto the internet without any problem (had to enter AT&T's APN, but that is not needed for the Atrix since it's an AT&T device).
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I think the unlimited data on I phone is different from unlimited data for other devices, no? Like how it its with blackberry?
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It doesn't seem to be. I've had two different android phones but my data plan still says iPhone unlimited, it hasn't caused any problems.
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I would switch if only the android marketplace had better games... =/
Not sure if i'm willing to give up Battleheart.. it's just too good.
dwellsva said:
I currently have the iPhone on unlimited data. I want to get the Atrix off contract and basically switch the SIMM card into the Atrix (I know I need a converter from the micro-simm to normal SIIM). However, I was wondering if anyone knew if that would mess with my contract and getting my unlimited data on my Atrix? Can ATT see that I hate their new data plans and cut me off? Any help?
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Just walk into an AT&T store and request a replacement SIM card. They do it free of charge and it takes like 5 minutes. They won't take away your unlimited data plan anyway.
If I get the $10 unlimited media net plan on my SG2, all I have to say is that I'm now using a dumb phone (like a RAZR) and that's it?
Will they not catch on eventually like they did with my iPhone? Or if they can't catch on yet, if the SGS2 gets released in the U.S, will AT&T then have the phone in the database, and be able to switch plans?
I'm worried about losing my $30 unlimited smart phone plan right now. Thanks
I have a Galaxy S I9000M and I've been fine for 8 months.
I would assume the same with Galaxy S II but I don't know for sure. Hopefully you can find someone to verify.
A little research would have gave you your answer but here you go.
Att will never see the unlocked(uk) version of the sgs2 or anyother unlocked(overseas) in there database. Ive been running tmobile and overseas phones for 4 years now. Never had an issue and never will. 99.99% people dont even know what this phone is. You will never see change to your att account with any unlocked phone.
Iphone, some nexus 1s and very small % of dell streaks would give you problems with data. Hit the thanks if it helped you out.
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If I get the $10 unlimited media net plan on my SG2, all I have to say is that I'm now using a dumb phone (like a RAZR) and that's it?
Will they not catch on eventually like they did with my iPhone? Or if they can't catch on yet, if the SGS2 gets released in the U.S, will AT&T then have the phone in the database, and be able to switch plans?
I'm worried about losing my $30 unlimited smart phone plan right now. Thanks
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No one can get you a definite answer since no one knows what AT&T will do next for sure. But I've been using non-AT&T phone on their media net plan for yrs without issue. If they add GS II to their database, then I will just sell it and move to the next phone.
With the X10a from Rogers, people were fine on AT&T for months. But then AT&T got their own X10 and bumped everyone to the pricey plans.
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Yep, It can become a crap shoot when AT&T picks up a device. I made it years before they finally nabbed my on the N1, back to medianet now. While they have been claiming for years that they are going to crack down on unlocked phones they have have put very little effort into it and even then only with phones that they themselves picked up and the N1.
For the risk adverse note that they can add any device to their database as the numbers are in the public domain for all devices. This means they can sweep the network for any device. Not saying that they would, only that they could should they choose.
Realistically they have showed almost zero effort to find and adjust billing on unlocked phones and there is little to lose by switching to medianet since if you do end up getting caught all that happens is they automatically move you to smartphone. The only thing that would give me pause was having a grandfathered uncapped smartphone. Go to medianet and that is gone forever and even if it doesnt matter now it could loom large later. I do not believe I would risk losing that myself, not for this handset but because I might really wish I had it later.
I agree. On four of my lines I have non ATT phones with medianet but I have one with unlimited grandfathered and I want to keep it that way (I'm really hoping it carries over to LTE)
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A little research would have gave you your answer but here you go.
Att will never see the unlocked(uk) version of the sgs2 or anyother unlocked(overseas) in there database. Ive been running tmobile and overseas phones for 4 years now. Never had an issue and never will. 99.99% people dont even know what this phone is. You will never see change to your att account with any unlocked phone.
Iphone, some nexus 1s and very small % of dell streaks would give you problems with data. Hit the thanks if it helped you out.
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I was wondering if you or anyone else has gone over 3gb of data a month on the media net plan? I talked to a buddy that manages 2 different at&t stores and he told me they definitely know I am using a gs2 when I put the sim card in and if I use over 3gb of data they'll say something but they won't say anything if you stay under 3gb. Does this correlate with your experience?
ive searched all throughout--- and im finding conflicting results--
1.can i use a tmo branded vibrant on 9.99 tzones?
2. if not.. if i unlock it will it work?
last thing-- what r the all the apns i can try-- the epc one worked for a couple of hours on stock-- then i rooted and rommed it and it stopped working..
thanks again.
Since you are using a Vibrant (T-mobile), they (T-mobile) have the IMEI of your phone, which will register as a smartphone in their network. It will work for a couple of hours but eventually (usually less than a day) you will be blocked because the grandfathered t-zones plan were not meant for smartphones. Now if you use a captivate (AT&T), T-mobile does not have that models IMEI so you might get by with that (but only at 2g speeds).
So unlocking it wont make a difference?
I did that for years on a Palm Treo (at $2.99!) but upgraded to the "smartphone" package when I got my vibrant. TOTALLY WORTH IT. Sneaking data through T-zones was slow as molasses. If you can do it, pay for the data. A phone like this is meant to have a full data plan.
And I think T-Mobile can tell whatever phone you are using. They always knew I was on a Palm. Not the specific model, but a Treo. I was talking to a sales guy one time and he told me they know when people are using jailbroken iPhones. He said they always lied about it too. In that particular store they didn't care because you were paying T-Mobile instead of AT&T. But they could tell.
ok its settled it-- it cant b done--
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now what would yall suggest i do?
sell it -- use the money toward an upgrade (thinkin sensation)
0r trade it-- for a nexus one? -- keep usin it wit tzones?
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Dude even if you get a nexus one eventually they're gonna swtich your data. Just buy the data plan and use it as is. Getting around it wont get you far.
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the thing is if i update to the 20 dollar loyalty data i get locked in for another 2 years-- so i have an upgrade on the table that i wanna use before then.
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was actually running trigger when the net stopped workin
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anyone?
Get a Windows phone 7.5. They work great on the T-zones plan.
Quick question do we keep our unlimited grandfather internet when upgrading to this phone? ??? Currently have atrix with unlimited, would be awesome when I get my note tomorrow that I keep it
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Quick question do we keep our unlimited grandfather internet when upgrading to this phone? ??? Currently have atrix with unlimited, would be awesome when I get my note tomorrow that I keep it
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Quick answer is yes you will. Just be sure you make it clear you have unlimited and that you want it carried over. Seems some people let the phone jockeys move them to a lesser plan. They almost always try.
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Quick answer is yes you will. Just be sure you make it clear you have unlimited and that you want it carried over. Seems some people let the phone jockeys move them to a lesser plan. They almost always try.
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Make sure you go to the att store and ask them. Last month they try to switch me over to the 2gb pro plan without telling me. They try to tell me you can't get it back. I told them imma cancel my service with y'all then. Five minutes later I had it again
Make sure they make your new unlimited plan an LTE unlimited plan too... I went to the ATT store yesterday and found out I had no internet on my phone... was a simple mistake and only took a minute to fix.
Now let me say that they told me that my old data plan was note compatible with this phone when called to activate. She was waiting to hear back from her manager about me not switchin off current grandfathers plan when she enabled the sim in the note and disconnected the sim in my SGS2 so we were disconnected. I called back and talked to someone else and he said i was on a $30/month Unlmtd Lte plan. Going in store today to talk with someone seeing as there's no Lte here in MN.
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Now let me say that they told me that my old data plan was note compatible with this phone when called to activate. She was waiting to hear back from her manager about me not switchin off current grandfathers plan when she enabled the sim in the note and disconnected the sim in my SGS2 so we were disconnected. I called back and talked to someone else and he said i was on a $30/month Unlmtd Lte plan. Going in store today to talk with someone seeing as there's no Lte here in MN.
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I don't have LTE in my area either. But I had to be on an LTE data plan (granfathered unlimited or not) to get any internet access at all.