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If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
bfrank said:
If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
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You won't need a new SIM if you buy it off contract All they give you is the new phone
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If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
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you can buy off contract (out right), but if your $20 data plan is not for a smart phone. The system will automaticlly put you on the 2g data plan and you will lose your unlimited. Now if your $20 unlimited data is for a smart phone i would make sure that when you purchase the phone, talk to the rep and make sure that they still have you on the unlimited plan...there are way around this...hope this helps...
Currently using it on a Fuse on 3G
So the big issue is $20 per month plus ~$600 for the phone = unlimited data (2 years = $1080)
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$25 per month plus ~$150 for the phone = 2gig per month (2 years = $750)
Currently using less then 2gig per month but thats with the Fuse....struggling with what to do but I guess we need to see real prices first.
if your on a smartphone unlimited plan, you are locked in for unlimited data on any smart phone... you have tol let the rep know that you have unlimited data when you get the atrix...
I have the vibrant on a at&t unlimited plan that's non smartphone. Will I be detected & upgraded with the atrix 4g?
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
Just curious, why haven't they detected my vibrant?
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Because the Vibrant isn't one of the phones AT&T issues.
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
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This isn't the case. At least, it wasn't when I quit Radioshack a year ago.
All people on AT&T that had the original $20 unlimited data are entitled to it, for as long as they want. You just have to tell them you had it. They can check your plan to see if you previously had it, and if you did, will be able to keep it.
Although, AT&T royally ****ed me when I quit Radioshack(They cancelled my Employee Plan, and I lost all my benefits, they then went ahead and told me they have no record of me ever being a *customer,* so I wasn't entitled to the older plans.)
Again, this was a year ago; They might have changed things since then. I would call and ask.
Realistically, though, 2gb on a phone isn't the easiest thing to cap out.. Especially when the phone has built in Wi-Fi.
I am very interested the atrix and would luv to rid myself of the vibrant. I am going strickly american.
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Milkshakes00 said:
This isn't the case. At least, it wasn't when I quit Radioshack a year ago.
All people on AT&T that had the original $20 unlimited data are entitled to it, for as long as they want. You just have to tell them you had it. They can check your plan to see if you previously had it, and if you did, will be able to keep it.
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Right, if you had an old data plan you can keep it. But AT&T categorizes some plans as "non-smartphone" plans, and if you get an AT&T smartphone they will notify you that they are switching you to a smartphone plan. I know multiple people that had this happen to them, starting around November.
smeadow said:
I have the vibrant on a at&t unlimited plan that's non smartphone. Will I be detected & upgraded with the atrix 4g?
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Yes because the AT&T system will automatically add a smart phone data plan. There is no way around it. Trust me
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
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Correct.
I still have my unlimited data plan from my first Tilt... used it for my Tilt 2.. and I plan on getting the Atrix 4G.
I assume I'm safe as long as I tell/remind/make sure with them, correct?
I'm on a non-smartphone unlimited data on my milestone due to AT&T not recognizing the phone.
My thought process is to get a Bell version Atrix if they are the same hardware as the AT&T and flash AT&T's firmware when it becomes available. That way AT&T can't recognize the IMEI and make me get the higher data plan. I'm currently on $10 unlimited data since i have the unlimited text.
Anything wrong with this thought process? Just curious. Thanks!
AllTheWay said:
Yes because the AT&T system will automatically add a smart phone data plan. There is no way around it. Trust me
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Nope, you're incorrect.
If Atrix has a new simcard format, and will force u to get a new simcard, then perhaps.
If standard old sim works with Atrix, you will NOT be upgraded/changed.
This topic was around for a long time, and I'm tired of seeing this. I've been using my simcard for about 5 years now, coming from HTC Kaiser to TouchPro to TouchPro2 to NexusOne to Captivate. Same 1 simcard. Same $20/unlim data.
In fact, I called AT&T (about a different issue) and decided to ask them outright about this policy. They specifically told me that they will not change your account to a more expensive data plan by themselves, unless you ask them to. So I asked (off the record) whether it's ok that I keep the same simcard and using same data plan (i use up around 2-6GB per month data) as I sell/buy my phones off contract. They said they don't care, unless they want me to change it, they won't.
So, 5-6 years with AT&T and 5 (soon to be 6) phones I changed tell me you're wrong.
My advice: sell your N1/captivate/g2/whatever, add $100/$200, get Atrix off contract, plop in the old simcard, never tell AT&T about it, and live happy.
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Nope, you're incorrect.
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There's a ton of evidence to the contrary, including my own experience. I bought an N1 outright and signed up for AT&T service. At the suggestion of a friend, I went into the corp store with an unlocked feature phone so I could sign up for the $15 unlimited data plan. I did, swapped SIMs, and in less than a day I got a text saying I had been switched to the 2 GB DataPro plan.
AT&T does IMEI scans, and if they are pretty good at telling which phones are smartphones. It's not 100% perfect, but pretty good.
That being said, there should be no reason that you need a new SIM for the Atrix unless you have a REALLY old pre-3G SIM. But, don't count on being able to keep a non-smartphone data plan.
stoli412 said:
There's a ton of evidence to the contrary, including my own experience. I bought an N1 outright and signed up for AT&T service. At the suggestion of a friend, I went into the corp store with an unlocked feature phone so I could sign up for the $15 unlimited data plan.
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Big difference being that you actually tried to go and get this grandfather $15/mo unlimited plan, which is no longer available. I got this plan many years ago, before iPhone, and just kept renewing my contract on the same terms, which AT&T was happy about. A year ago they already started doing away with unlimited plans, yet they gladly renewed my contract with unlimited data, even though I used the contract extension subsidy to get a new TouchPro2 from them, right from their store.
So maybe the moral here is that if you have the old plan with unlimited data - u can just keep extending it every 2 years without trouble. Cannot do that for new contracts.
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But, don't count on being able to keep a non-smartphone data plan.
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Oh, I've counted on that for last 5 or so years, and don't see why I can't in the future =)
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Big difference being that you actually tried to go and get this grandfather $15/mo unlimited plan, which is no longer available.
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Maybe we have our wires crossed here. Data Unlimited for non-smartphones is still very much available and is $15/month. But if you try to use it with a smartphone, 95% of the time they're going to automatically switch you to a DataPro plan for smartphones once they do an IMEI scan. This is exactly what happened with me. I signed up with a dumbphone, and within a day of switching my SIM to my N1 I got a text saying I had been switched.
Now if you are grandfathered into the old unlimited smartphone data plan, the absolutely you should have no trouble keeping it when swapping SIMs.
xryousukex said:
I'm on a non-smartphone unlimited data on my milestone due to AT&T not recognizing the phone.
My thought process is to get a Bell version Atrix if they are the same hardware as the AT&T and flash AT&T's firmware when it becomes available. That way AT&T can't recognize the IMEI and make me get the higher data plan. I'm currently on $10 unlimited data since i have the unlimited text.
Anything wrong with this thought process? Just curious. Thanks!
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I plan on doing the same thing! Just got to make sure you get it unlocked some way or another! thats really the only thing you have to worry about...
Hello Atrix Owners,
I am thinking about getting an Atrix 4G tomorrow and I am currently using a Samsung Captivate. My question is for anyone who had an unlimited data plan and got the Atrix. Did AT&T make you switch from the unlimited plan when you got the phone?
Also, anyone who had a captivate and went to the atrix... would you say it was worth it?
I've owned a captivate. More that we have an unlocked bootloader, the only thing a captivate has on the atrix is a samoled screen.
I never looked back once I got this device. The hktw firmware feels so fast compared to the cappy's laggy touch wiz. Plus we can actually get a GPS lock.
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Also, anyone who had a captivate and went to the atrix... would you say it was worth it?
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Atrix > Captivate
It is worth it.
provoked said:
Hello Atrix Owners,
I am thinking about getting an Atrix 4G tomorrow and I am currently using a Samsung Captivate. My question is for anyone who had an unlimited data plan and got the Atrix. Did AT&T make you switch from the unlimited plan when you got the phone?
Also, anyone who had a captivate and went to the atrix... would you say it was worth it?
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call them and ask them to grandfather your data plan.
Get it now. And its only 1 cent from amazon its the best time.
lsxrx7 said:
Get it now. And its only 1 cent from amazon its the best time.
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I wish I could do that... Too bad I am an existing user w/ unlimited data so... There is no way I would start over, but still at $100 + upgrade fee... it isn't bad.
no i had a captivate too and switched to atrix along with my brother. we both kept our plans and switch youll be really happy you did. the captivate was super buggy.
Make sure to tell them to retain your unlimited plan. My AT&T store here automatically dropped me to the 2GB plan. I checked when I got home online, saw this, then went through a long call before they could get a manager on the phone who could authorize putting me back on unlimited..............AFTER the rep told me it was not possible.
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Make sure to tell them to retain your unlimited plan. My AT&T store here automatically dropped me to the 2GB plan. I checked when I got home online, saw this, then went through a long call before they could get a manager on the phone who could authorize putting me back on unlimited..............AFTER the rep told me it was not possible.
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I've had to go along with my family and friends whenever they need to upgrade. I can't tell you how many times I've seen AT&T associates try and drop friends and family to the 2GB without warning them.
When I went to get my Atrix they tried to tell me I couldn't switch my iPhone data over.
Go into the store and just makes sure you tell them you want to stay on the unlimited plan. After they get you all setup check your account right there in the store to make sure. You can keep your unlimited plan but sometimes they will try to switch you.
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Atrix!!!!!!!!!!!!11
joust to back up what many have said, I went from an iPhone unlimited to an unlimited 4g data plan when I got my Atrix, so they can do it in store, do not let them talk you into anything else. if they say they can't go to another store or something.
p.s. you wil be glad you did, I can hardy wait to see what this puppy can do now that it can be unlocked.
So ifu buy a 2g off ebay will it let me choose an unlimited plan and transfer it over to my atrix even though I've already upgraded to my atrix?
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i kept my unlimited iphone plan when i upgraded to the Galaxy S 2 i777 through walmart on Oct 5th...
one thing is at&t keeps bugging me with text saying "AT&T Free Msg: Did you know an eligible data plan us required for your 4G Smartphone? Pls Call 611 to select a plan and establish you 4G data connection today"
is anyone else getting this? Its annoying, they send it weekly almost, anyway to get it to stop?
Was the unlimited iphone plan different than their normal unlimited plan? Because I kept my unlimited and I haven't received any messages from them.
Adelaide. said:
Was the unlimited iphone plan different than their normal unlimited plan? Because I kept my unlimited and I haven't received any messages from them.
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i dont think, im using the standard iPhone grandfathered plan ive always had...
I have grandfathered unlimited data plan ($30/month) but that does not mean unlimited *text* (SMS), I switched from iphone to ASGS2, I did not get any alert from at&t though I bought it in store not online, just walk in at&t store ( corporate one) and NOT franchise store and check with them.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
i kept my unlimited iphone plan when i upgraded to the Galaxy S 2 i777 through walmart on Oct 5th...
one thing is at&t keeps bugging me with text saying "AT&T Free Msg: Did you know an eligible data plan us required for your 4G Smartphone? Pls Call 611 to select a plan and establish you 4G data connection today"
is anyone else getting this? Its annoying, they send it weekly almost, anyway to get it to stop?
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Simple way to get it to stop - get yourself on the HSPA+ plan. Do it in an AT&T store, most third-party stores and the phone service people don't know how to "grandfather" an unlimited 3G plan to an unlimited HSPA+ plan.
Yeah of course, the sms is different. Im afraid if i go in the store they will force me into a limited plan...
Yeah the 3G unlimited plan and Faux G unlimited plan show up differently on your bill. You are still able to keep unlimited and the $30 price. Att just needs to provision it different on your line. Either hit up a att store or call 611. They can fix it and stop nagging you.
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
Yeah of course, the sms is different. Im afraid if i go in the store they will force me into a limited plan...
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Even if they do try to force you into a limited plan, cause enough of a disturbance and they'll give in. ;-)
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slifer315 said:
Even if they do try to force you into a limited plan, cause enough of a disturbance and they'll give in. ;-)
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They won't do this. Just tell them you're grandfathered in, but your phone is nagging you about being on the wrong plan. They'll fix it.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Yeah of course, the sms is different. Im afraid if i go in the store they will force me into a limited plan...
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Huh? What the hell does sms have to do with your data plan?
I kept my old "200 for $5" SMS plan with no problems.
When I got my Infuse, I didn't even have to ask about getting grandfathered, the guy outright said, "don't worry, you'll keep your unlimited data".
1. Obtain iPhone 2G (original)
2. Factory wipe/reset.
3. Download latest iTunes from Apple.com
4. Put SIM from GSII in iPhone 2G.
5. Plug iPhone in to PC, go through entire activation process.
6. Put SIM card back in to GSII. Dial *3828# and make sure your plan reflects the newly activated Unlimited feature.
7. Wait a few hours until you receive the text from AT&T letting you know to call them @ 611 and change to a "smartphone plan".
8. Tell AT&T CSR you want to keep your unlimited iPhone plan.
9. Done.
What?
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WTF does this mean?
I think he means you buy an iPhone (original one that didn't have 3g) and get at&t to put on the $20 unlimited plan and then having them switch the service to the new phone and carry over the unlimited plan
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Nick281051 said:
I think he means you buy an iPhone (original one that didn't have 3g) and get at&t to put on the $20 unlimited plan and then having them switch the service to the new phone and carry over the unlimited plan
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Yup this is how I got my unlimited data plan.
Its amazing how many people still don't know of this trick.
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steps exactly?
This worked for me like 4 or 5 months ago
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lorijuan1024 said:
This worked for me like 4 or 5 months ago
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thats great
can you explain what you did
I have the unlimited plan already, but from what I understand its really easy.
You pop your SIM into a iPhone 2G (edge only, first Gen iPhone), plug into iTunes, iTunes says "Hey, you need unlimited data to use this phone, want me to add for you?", click yes, activate phone, enjoy. Pop the SIM back into your SGS II, call att to ask why data won't work, they provision the correct data type, but still unlimited.
I have heard that if you had a iPhone in the past on that number it won't work, but I don't know for sure. Here the iPhone 2Gs still sell for $100+ for this reason, even if they have cracked screens, as long as they power on it will work.
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quarlow said:
I have the unlimited plan already, but from what I understand its really easy.
You pop your SIM into a iPhone 2G (edge only, first Gen iPhone), plug into iTunes, iTunes says "Hey, you need unlimited data to use this phone, want me to add for you?", click yes, activate phone, enjoy. Pop the SIM back into your SGS II, call att to ask why data won't work, they provision the correct data type, but still unlimited.
I have heard that if you had a iPhone in the past on that number it won't work, but I don't know for sure. Here the iPhone 2Gs still sell for $100+ for this reason, even if they have cracked screens, as long as they power on it will work.
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that sucks..i've been an iPhone loyalist until 2 months ago...i don't think i'm paying 100+ for something that MIGHT work
Can you do it instantly, like swap the sim within 1 hour and call AT&T? or should you leave the sim in the iPhone for like 2-5 days and then switch back to your SGSII? I have the original iPhone laying around at my house and always wanted to try this trick but scared to.
runtohell121 said:
Can you do it instantly, like swap the sim within 1 hour and call AT&T? or should you leave the sim in the iPhone for like 2-5 days and then switch back to your SGSII? I have the original iPhone laying around at my house and always wanted to try this trick but scared to.
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You should give it a shot and report back. What data plan do you have now? If you don't already have the unlimited data the worse they could do is say "no" and put you back on whatever you have now.
mmtrago said:
that sucks..i've been an iPhone loyalist until 2 months ago...i don't think i'm paying 100+ for something that MIGHT work
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Locally here people also rent them out for $20 to activate the unlimited data, then give back.
The only time I have heard it not work is if you currently have an iPhone with the tiered plans.
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it still works. follow these steps...some users are renting their iphones 2Gs out. this is also how i got my unlimited back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698
I called att within three hours of the sim swap.
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runtohell121 said:
Can you do it instantly, like swap the sim within 1 hour and call AT&T? or should you leave the sim in the iPhone for like 2-5 days and then switch back to your SGSII? I have the original iPhone laying around at my house and always wanted to try this trick but scared to.
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When I did the iPhone 2G trick a few months ago, I called AT&T too soon to "upgrade" from my iPhone to my Inspire 4G. Immediately after activating the iPhone in iTunes I called-in and the rep said I already had the 2GB plan and no upgrade is needed. I told her I have the iPhone and would really love to keep the unlimited data. She caught on and said "oh, I see what you're trying to do..." She recommended I wait for their system to update and try back, she didn't see the recently activated iPhone w/ unlimited data yet.
I checked AT&T.com over and over and within a couple hours my account showed I had the iPhone 2G with Unlimited Data. After seeing this I called back, said I want to upgrade to my Inspire. I was "grandfathered" with unlimited 4G without any issues. I'm lucky the first rep I got was so cool and didn't try to shut me down!
Overall, it took about 2 hours to switch to the iPhone and switch back.
Ugh ... just need to find an iphone 2g now.
You can 'buy' this service on Ebay if you don't mind giving out some personal info. Just search Ebay for 'ATT unlimited'. My buddy did this for like $30 about a month ago. The Ebay dude activated unlimited on his line with an old iPhone, then my friend just went to an ATT store and said he wanted to activate his GS2 (with SIM removed) on his line, keeping his 'unlimited' of course. They gave him a new SIM and he was out the door.
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How much do you pay for unlimited data anyway?
So I got my One yesterday and got the new SIM card provisioned. I woke up this morning with a text message saying my device needs an LTE data plan and to call customer service. I don't need LTE and sure don't want to give up my unlimited data for $20 a month. After adding a MediaNet APN everything has been working fine. So are AT&T just being their normal typical self and trying to get me to upgrade when I don't need to?
What phone are you coming from? If it wasn't an lte phone the message is prolly just them saying you need to be on the lte unlimited plan. Same thing happened when I switched my wife from an iPhone to my old one x. You'll be able to keep your unlimited
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Bladerunner1825us said:
What phone are you coming from? If it wasn't an lte phone the message is prolly just them saying you need to be on the lte unlimited plan. Same thing happened when I switched my wife from an iPhone to my old one x. You'll be able to keep your unlimited
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Coming from an Inspire 4G. I wasn't aware they had an unlimited LTE plan?
Medianet only works on nonsmartphone/phone that att doesn't recognize. In this case, they probably know you are using smartphone and probably will change it to one of those regular data plan
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Coming from an Inspire 4G. I wasn't aware they had an unlimited LTE plan?
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Well... it's "Unlimited" meaning that you get 5 Gigs of full speed data and then when you reach that cap, you get throttled back.
There are ways to work around the throttling though.
You're not provisioned on AT&T's end to have LTE yet. I had the same problem going from my S2 to the S3 last year in June. It took like 5 minutes to fix. Just make absolutely certain that they put you on the Unlimited LTE plan. If I had not checked mine after they did it, I wouldn't have caught that they put me on 5 Gig plan instead of my unlimited plan.
Thanks for the info guys. I have been on this data plan going back to the original Samsung Blackjack. Have used it with the BJ, BJII as well as Inspire 4G. I know the plan works on my phone. If they give me any grief about changing data plans I will post my trip report here. Hopefully it was just a canned message they send out to scare people into giving up their unlimited data :good:
longdongsilver said:
Thanks for the info guys. I have been on this data plan going back to the original Samsung Blackjack. Have used it with the BJ, BJII as well as Inspire 4G. I know the plan works on my phone. If they give me any grief about changing data plans I will post my trip report here. Hopefully it was just a canned message they send out to scare people into giving up their unlimited data :good:
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Never, ever give it up. AT&T has not changed their grandfather policy yet. If they try to kick you off, raise hell and threaten to take your business elsewhere. (as a threat.)
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Never, ever give it up. AT&T has not changed their grandfather policy yet. If they try to kick you off, raise hell and threaten to take your business elsewhere. (as a threat.)
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If you are already on unlimited they should be able to bump you up to the correct plan without loosing the unlimited. I think... dont quote me.
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If you are already on unlimited they should be able to bump you up to the correct plan without loosing the unlimited. I think... dont quote me.
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This is true.
OP, don't let them push you around. Stick to your guns and make sure you hold on to your unlimited data.
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This is true.
OP, don't let them push you around. Stick to your guns and make sure you hold on to your unlimited data.
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I said dont quote!
AT&T's system should actually automatically bump you to the appropriate plan after a few days. They certainly don't offer MediaNet anymore, and neither do they offer a compatible "unlimited data" plan to transition you over to. In order for you to keep any kind of unlimited plan at this point, you need to have had the $30 unlimited data plan that was offered after the MediaNet plan was no longer offered. Even the $30 "unlimited data" plan is not really unlimited as it is throttled after 5GB.
I'm surprised they didn't catch you when you got your Inspire 4G. But, that was also a 3G phone that had a plan compatible with those previous phones you listed.
LTE phones have special plans (not really special but has a different name), which is why you are getting that text message. Watch your account/bill. It'll switch you over automatically if you don't do it manually first.