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Stand strong ladies and gentleman! That is all.
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stand strong ladies and gentleman! That is all.
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you lock we walk!
O captain my captain.
Blitzpwnage said:
Stand strong ladies and gentleman! That is all.
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I hope you're from Anonymous. I hope you take down all of HTC's servers TAKE the keys needed to unlock the bootloader.
I hope you format their servers and reinstall OSX 4. or Windows ME.
that is all.
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I hope you're from Anonymous. I hope you take down all of HTC's servers TAKE the keys needed to unlock the bootloader.
I hope you format their servers and reinstall OSX 4. or Windows ME.
that is all.
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literally lol'd at that!
I sent engadget an email to post an article talking about everything we are trying to do and everything htc is doing with the bootloader. I will continue to email other sites but would be awesome if other people could possibly be doing this as well. I know everyone is doing everything they can and maybe we will make a dent in something. Stay united everyone
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I sent engadget an email to post an article talking about everything we are trying to do and everything htc is doing with the bootloader. I will continue to email other sites but would be awesome if other people could possibly be doing this as well. I know everyone is doing everything they can and maybe we will make a dent in something. Stay united everyone
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I have smeared facebook! Emailed HTC directly.
Calling HTC the new APPLE, to me is a nut shot. I hope they cry. I'll never buy an HTC device. Ever.
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I have smeared facebook! Emailed HTC directly.
Calling HTC the new APPLE, to me is a nut shot. I hope they cry. I'll never buy an HTC device. Ever.
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This community is HUGE we are showing our strength and importance. We are XDA.
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Wouldn't be giving up on HTC yet, They claimed to be reconsidering their stance on encrypted bootloaders.
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Wouldn't be giving up on HTC yet, They claimed to be reconsidering their stance on encrypted bootloaders.
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Please. That was just a nice way of saying "shut the hell up". HTC will do as they please (Thunderbolt, Sensation, EVO 3D). It's a shame and I hope they realize their mistake when they see sales figures while I enjoy my Galaxy S2. I am sure there will be TONS of support for it considering how few developers will be messing with the EVO 3D.
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Wouldn't be giving up on HTC yet, They claimed to be reconsidering their stance on encrypted bootloaders.
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Until its released and confirmed to be unlocked, dont trust them or give in. As they are just trying to silence us to keep the majority of users from knowing about the bad press the phone is getting now.
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Until its released and confirmed to be unlocked, dont trust them or give in. As they are just trying to silence us to keep the majority of users from knowing about the bad press the phone is getting now.
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Exactly, STAY LOUD and stay staying loud. Don't forget and move on-
10 STAY LOUD
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Lol... BASIC. THAT takes me way back.
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If corporate policy = political policy, snailmail is the way to go. They really pay attention to something people took the time to physically mail. Phone calls are next, and internet is at the bottom.
No time to be lazy folks, we don't have much time to turn this around.
http://wakeuphtc.blogspot.com/
Guys, take some action. Just add your vote on the (real) petition. It's going up rapidly by the second! Cast yours NOW.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
I'm going to post this link on the other thread talking about the lockdown, too. As an HD2 owner, this is more than a slap to the face. It's a slap to the balls. And then some.
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Guys, take some action. Just add your vote on the (real) petition. It's going up rapidly by the second! Cast yours NOW.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
I'm going to post this link on the other thread talking about the lockdown, too. As an HD2 owner, this is more than a slap to the face. It's a slap to the balls. And then some.
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Another fellow hd2 owner
I hit their Facebook, an emailed them directly... keep it up guys we can do this!!!
YOU LOCK WE WALK!!!!
We got to keep hitting them hard tomm 2. Somebody should post some you tube vids too.
I know this is the EVO 3D forum so opinions will lean that way but I'm going back to Sprint from T-Mobile. Should I get the 3D or wait a month and get the Motorola Photon? Which will be the better phone?
Depends on what you are looking for. If 3 matters obviously the 3d. If you are a sense fan then the 3d as well. However I kind of like that the photon has some of the things the 3vo is missing. For one the kickstand not deal breaker but it comes in handy and an 8Mp camera with 1080p video as opposed to 5mp with 720p. Now the big draw back. The motorolla is supposed to ship with a locked bootloader. So if you like to run roms you are rolling the dice. It may or may not be unlocked at a future date. Personally I trust the 3vo to be rooted much sooner than the photon. All that said check out the Samsung Nexus II as well. Looks to be a contender.
Can anyone dispute the claim made in this article about Motorola?
http://www.nzweek.com/technology/motorola-will-unlock-bootloader-3573/
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Depends on what you are looking for. If 3 matters obviously the 3d. If you are a sense fan then the 3d as well. However I kind of like that the photon has some of the things the 3vo is missing. For one the kickstand not deal breaker but it comes in handy and an 8Mp camera with 1080p video as opposed to 5mp with 720p. Now the big draw back. The motorolla is supposed to ship with a locked bootloader. So if you like to run roms you are rolling the dice. It may or may not be unlocked at a future date. Personally I trust the 3vo to be rooted much sooner than the photon. All that said check out the Samsung Nexus II as well. Looks to be a contender.
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Can anyone dispute the claim made in this article about Motorola?
http://www.nzweek.com/technology/motorola-will-unlock-bootloader-3573/
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I'm just saying thats on the word of a dude on twitter and then it says at the end of the year and at the discrection of the carrier. Either way it is supposed to ship with a locked bootloader and you will likely be waiting a while. IMHO thats a crap shoot you may or may not get an unlocked bootloader. I wish it wasn't so I really like this phone better than the 3vo for my personal needs but what to do.
Isn't the 3vo going to be locked as well to start? I know HTC came out and said they will no longer lock bootloaders, but there seems to be no confirmation on 1.) If they will even allow the 3vo to be unlocked, and 2.) If so, when that will happen. It's all a crapshoot I guess.
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I'm just saying thats on the word of a dude on twitter and then it says at the end of the year and at the discrection of the carrier. Either way it is supposed to ship with a locked bootloader and you will likely be waiting a while. IMHO thats a crap shoot you may or may not get an unlocked bootloader. I wish it wasn't so I really like this phone better than the 3vo for my personal needs but what to do.
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another turn off from the photon is the pentile screen
Good point maximus I'm just going off past performance and HTC's official stance to disable the bootloaders. I trust them more to follow through than Motorola but alas this is all just my opinion.
It all depends on HTC I guess. There are going to be a lot of disappointed 3vo owners if they finally realize after a few weeks that the devs can't work miracles and unlock encrypted bootloaders. No custom ROMs or modifications unless HTC comes through.
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Good point maximus I'm just going off past performance and HTC's official stance to disable the bootloaders. I trust them more to follow through than Motorola but alas this is all just my opinion.
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It all depends on HTC I guess. There are going to be a lot of disappointed 3vo owners if they finally realize after a few weeks that the devs can't work miracles and unlock encrypted bootloaders. No custom ROMs or modifications unless HTC comes through.
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HTC has already confirmed the 3d will be unlocked....they specifically said the 3d so that's not a question.
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Can you provide a link? I haven't read that yet.
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HTC has already confirmed the 3d will be unlocked....they specifically said the 3d so that's not a question.
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all of the phones are locked right? doesn't it come down to being encrypted or not?
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Can you provide a link? I haven't read that yet.
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Its somewhere in this board back when HTC announced they changed their policy. The email directly from the CEO specifically said the 3d would be unlocked. Can't recall the title of the thread but there were multiple.
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That's great he said that, but will that be next month or in 6 months? No one knows really, and he may have said that at the time to calm people down who were angry over it. I'm not saying HTC is going to go back on their word, but there still is nothing set in stone in my book.
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Its somewhere in this board back when HTC announced they changed their policy. The email directly from the CEO specifically said the 3d would be unlocked. Can't recall the title of the thread but there were multiple.
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That's great he said that, but will that be next month or in 6 months? No one knows really, and he may have said that at the time to calm people down who were angry over it. I'm not saying HTC is going to go back on their word, but there still is nothing set in stone in my book.
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OK. That's your opinion. But given that the appropriate devs have the Eng bootloader in hand already, I would expect root not too long after its released....assuming no encryption. But well see I guess.
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There's going to be a massive flood of these things on eBay in about 4-6 months if they don't unencrypt it, and the "next" best thing comes along. I think part of the success of the evo4g was the development aspect of it. I just hope HTC realizes that. Could have great potential if they push an update out fairly quickly so there is an easy method to root.
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OK. That's your opinion. But given that the appropriate devs have the Eng bootloader in hand already, I would expect root not too long after its released....assuming no encryption. But well see I guess.
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There's going to be a massive flood of these things on eBay in about 4-6 months if they don't unencrypt it, and the "next" best thing comes along. I think part of the success of the evo4g was the development aspect of it. I just hope HTC realizes that. Could have great potential if they push an update out fairly quickly so there is an easy method to root.
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If it is encrypted at launch I would expect an ota update fairly quickly the next day or so to fix it. After all the bad press I doubt they will drop the ball on this issue.
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As far as the Photon being locked it will be. Now As far as that memo, There are bits and pieces missing. However it's not the 1st Motorola has said it will no longer lock the phones down. in fact every time I have seen this pop up it's been almost the exact same thing, even the "by the end of the year." But I have also read multiple times that that statements means phones coming out at the end of the year the Photon is not included in that group. I believe if you look on XDA as well as the internet you can find that to be true.
I just want to make sure I get the best phone out there and don't miss out. I sign up with Sprint on the 23rd to take advantage of the switch over deal and will get the EVO 4g . The 3D comes out the next day and I read somewhere the Photon comes out in July possibly the 21st. I don't want to use a free exchange in the 1 month time period only to be disappointed I didn't wait for the other phone
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I just want to make sure I get the best phone out there and don't miss out. I sign up with Sprint on the 23rd to take advantage of the switch over deal and will get the EVO 4g . The 3D comes out the next day and I read somewhere the Photon comes out in July possibly the 21st. I don't want to use a free exchange in the 1 month time period only to be disappointed I didn't wait for the other phone
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The cool thing about the Photon is it has HDMI out AND Micro USB port (so it can charge while playing movies (using the two cables at once). As for the EVO 3D, it has a new technology that lets HDMI charge the phone while it's plugged into the TV for HDMI out, however NO tvs out currently support this feature, so you will have to buy an adapter.
Tegra 2 CPU (Photon) is weaker than Snapdragon (EVO 3D). They're both dual core and really fast, but EVO should be superior in most situations. Motorola has stated that the bootloader is unlocked, but some rumors have it that it's still locked down tight and uncrackable (see Droid 2). This definitely makes me lean towards HTC. One more thing, HTC seems to have alot more development behind it (far more than any other manufacturer (Samsung's catching up!). To be honest, your choices should be between the GSII (Samsung within for Sprint) or the EVO 3D.
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There's going to be a massive flood of these things on eBay in about 4-6 months if they don't unencrypt it, and the "next" best thing comes along. I think part of the success of the evo4g was the development aspect of it. I just hope HTC realizes that. Could have great potential if they push an update out fairly quickly so there is an easy method to root.
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That will not have any short term impact on HTC. The amount of us that would sell would have no effect on them.
However, it's people like us that most others go to for phone advice. Once as a company loses our trust and favor the fallout regarding future phones will be exponential.
The important thing is that it will hopefully not be encrypted.
This is an excerpt from an email conversation with HTC:
"I thank you for sending an email about unlocking the boot loader mode on the new HTC EVO 3D. I understand you would like to unlock the boot loader mode on your Android device but there has been no decision about which devices will be unlocked. I would suggest that you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab."
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This is an excerpt from an email conversation with HTC:
"I thank you for sending an email about unlocking the boot loader mode on the new HTC EVO 3D. I understand you would like to unlock the boot loader mode on your Android device but there has been no decision about which devices will be unlocked. I would suggest that you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab."
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Figures. I emailed them as well, no response back yet. When I do hear from them it will probably be a generic response like the one you received.
their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
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their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
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Yes and i think it was posted on the HTC facebook page.
Just figured I would post to help make more noise about it. Noise seems to help make things happen sometimes. Other times it is just noise though.....
I had actually emailed asking for the SMART_IO.CRD file to help with some development work I didn't mention boot loaders or unlocking or rooting. Somewhat surprised at the response for their general support desk. lol
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their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
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Yep.
They have about 28 days to figure it out for me. Keep lighting up their Facebook. E-mail is good, but public exposure on places like Facebook and Twitter is the best.
They are going to F everybody over with these corporate stall tactics... I'm holding off until this ***** is unlocked.
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They are going to F everybody over with these corporate stall tactics... I'm holding off until this ***** is unlocked.
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Ditto.
And in reality, I'm leaning heavily towards the Photon or SGS2 now. The SGS2 is already unlocked, and with today's news that the Atrix was unlocked via a leaked 2.3.3 upgrade and that the official 2.3.3 upgrade will be unlocked, it sounds like the Photon will probably ship unlocked as well.
I've loved HTC, but I'm not interested in dealing with a company that's openly deceptive.
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Ditto.
And in reality, I'm leaning heavily towards the Photon or SGS2 now. The SGS2 is already unlocked, and with today's news that the Atrix was unlocked via a leaked 2.3.3 upgrade and that the official 2.3.3 upgrade will be unlocked, it sounds like the Photon will probably ship unlocked as well.
I've loved HTC, but I'm not interested in dealing with a company that's openly deceptive.
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Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
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Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
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When? Moto said a while back that they were going to stop locking all future phones to my knowledge.
Edit: NM, just found it. However, that just says it won't ship unlocked, and it's a month old. If the Atrix will be unlocked with their GB update, I would be surprised if the Photon doesn't follow suit very quickly... unless it's sprint who's actually pulling the strings here.
Is it a carrier branded device. ? It'll be locked.
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Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
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all they stated was that it wasnt unlockable/relockable, could have a xoom style bootloader for all we know.
what moto said is that they will release software that will unlock devices later in the year. As to which specific devices will get the unlock functionality, that will be the decision of the carriers.
This was one of the major reasons I said I wasn't picking up this phone on launch day. There is no guarantee this thing will ever be unlocked, regardless of what HTC said a few weeks ago. From what I gather, they never specifically stated the Evo 3D would be unlocked, just future phones. Considering the phone was already in production when they made that statement, they might not think it's worth putting the effort to unlock it at this point.
Also, I checked out the phone at my local Sprint store and wasn't impressed at all. I'll see what the SGSII or the Photon has to offer when those are released.
Keep on the assault on facebook! The second we slow down is when they decide that eventually we will forget about it and not do anything about it.
Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
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Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
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i totally agree with this..
and also i agree everyone needs to keep the Assault on the facebook page.. maybe if enough ppl sit there and ***** they will do something about it.. cause this is some serious bull****.. the CEO wasnt the only one who said something about the unlocking of the bootloaders.. but there was a post from a HTC DEV that the EVO 3D would SHIP UNLOCKED!! so this bull**** with them saying "FUTURE DEVICES" is exactly that BULL****...
I WILL BE DOING A COUNTDOWN ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE.. SEEMS LIKE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.. EVERYONE GETS ON FB ATLEAST ONCE A DAY SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY OF DOING IT..
hit their twitter page also.. @HTC.. i am.. looks like they more actively watch their twitter page.. been following them for days now and who ever is watching it replys to almost everyone!!. just a thought..
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Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
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Ask and Ye shall receive.
bit.ly/HTC-UnlockOrWeWalk
As much as I want to believe that HTC is going to come though, I am cautious through past experience. Companies move SLOW. Right hands don't talk to the Left Hands, and before you know it, we're in the same club as some of the Motto people. I don't want to be in that club!
I want a device where I am FREE to choose what I may do with it, warranty or not. Free to utilize the device to its FULL capability and NOT be bogged down by bulky code or bloatware.
For the clock, I've set some parameters.
Date: Set for the earliest of the 30 Day period starting June 21st, the day users were able to start ordering the phone. You may argue that it shouldn't start till the 22nd, but I've worked retail, I've seen some of the BS Reps try to pull with 30 day technicalities. The clock goes till 9pm, the bleeding edge of the return policy for brick and mortar stores.
Time Zone: Set for Eastern as this would be the time zone in the United States to be affected first.
people need to tweet and post on the facebook page..
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people need to tweet and post on the facebook page..
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done and done.
Came from a friend on another forum:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
The person who sent the email responded asking why other people were getting vague emails that gave no certain answer on the future of the 3vos bootloader.
This is the return reply:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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I don't see any evidence that their definition of soon matches with my definition of soon...it is a relative term, after all.
I'm going err on the side of caution, unfortunately. They have 2 weeks.
Regardless of time frame, we are all at the mercy of HTC sadly enough
The date on that link is June 17.
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stop with these threads i dont see any new information here.
if its that big of a deal return the phone so the people who are gonna keep it dont have to see these dumb threads.
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The date on that link is June 17.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I would imagine it has more to do with appeasing partners (read: Sprint) than it has to do with technical hurdles...though I'm sure there is still a redundantly redundant amount of testing involved. Most of it is probably policy and politics than anything else.
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They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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i agree make it so the person knows what they are doing
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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If teamwin does it great. However I would be very surprised if there weren't strings attached to HTC's solution and no thanks to that. If the SGS2 would be announced for a pre-September release date the 3D is going back.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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he probably knows that he was just saying it might be better if they did it that way.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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Well, in if that happens in 2 months from now you and the 3 remaining devs will have a blast I'm sure. This technology moves way too fast for delays like this. The first 30 days is a given, return period, time to root, etc...but this time we are up against heavy duty security for heavy duty securities sake.
While I do exaggerate a bit my point remains. We don't have time to wait as much as you think we do...developers want to develop, and when they put a commitment into a device, well, not being able to develop a god damned thing for that device is kinda a turn off. Few of our best ROM developers are also the low-level guys doing the heavy lifting and intense probing and testing required to attain root/s-off...there is an overlap, yes, but most of these guys just want to make a rom or work on a kernel, and that is to say nothing of the theme guys who operate as creative talent before technical talent...
This is an elaborate ecosystem of skills and talents here. If you happened to be one of us lucky ones in the EVO4G community from the beginning you should know that it was a bunch of coincidence and a pre-release root (and the happenstance of Sprint getting its first kickass superphone--now a regular event)...so don't expect that magic to sit around waiting for this phone to be opened up.
I'm not saying it can't happen, but that there were a lot of factors that went into it happening last time--just having a decent phone and a forum weren't what made it happen.
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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It's a very capable phone, I agree. But it has far more potential than it has capability...and I didn't buy this phone to only be as capable as the phone it was replacing (a heavily modded EVO4G) with the only difference that I can actually see is a resolution difference.
Sure, we knew it would come locked. I knew I'd have this decision to make. It's a very capable phone. But it is also capable of so much more...that's what I want out of it. My 4G was doing everything at least as fast and with at least as good battery life with far more flexibility...
...the only reason I am so impatient is for the reason I posted above. If it doesn't happen relatively quickly the spark will fade rapidly. I feel very comfortable in the 30-day window. But as the 30 day window closes I am not going to be the only one who sizes up this situation and has to make a decision...more important than me and you and all of the other users there are the developers. The ones who provide the value-adding goodies that we love so much...without them we just have a phone like a million other phones, excuse me, that takes 3D pictures and/or Video...the only differentiating feature really....sure, HTC didn't sell a device that was intended to do the things I want to do with it--but it could...until they made it so it couldn't specifically...artificially...
You might not get it...if that's the case, congrats, this is the phone for you. No regrets. Rock on. But for me and what I would imagine are the majority of others here that is a deal breaker.....
@daneurysm: very, very well stated. I'm with you 100%
my email exchanges...
I have purchased your mogul,evo,and now evo3d. I would like to say that I love the evo3d, its an amazing device. But, if the bootloader isnt unlocked or rooted by the time my 30 days is up, I will be returning it. I feel as though I own the device, and used my hard earned money to buy it, and like a computer I should have access to it. I understand the consumer doesn't matter at all in todays corporate run world, but this is my stance, as is many others. I bought it, I own it, it is no longer yours or sprints as I'm not leasing it, I own it, its mine. Thanks, maybe.
their reply.
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I was passing by on my way from the One X+ Forums, and I recently got confirmation from this wonderful man that my phone would be receiving the 4.2.2 update by the end of the year.. While browsing through his Twitter feed, I came across this tweet from him, which at least confirms that a plan is being worked out to release the same update for you guys. That is the same response he gave about the One X+ not too long ago, but now that has been confirmed, so I would expect a full confirmation soon for the EVO. It looks like you guys haven't been forgotten after all. :highfive:
Update 1: I contacted him directly about it, and got a slightly different and more vague response here. He won't confirm anything, but he says he is "working on it", so take it for what you will. I still believe it will receive the update, although @Fifth313ment is willing to bet $100 that it won't.
Update 2: We've got an official comment from the President of HTC USA here. It's still very vague, but it looks like we'll be hearing about a possible update plan soon.
Update 3: It's official folks! https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/386284246521769984 And it's a version newer than most were even expecting! I believe @Fifth313ment owes me a healthy chunk of money and an apology to HTC. ;D
Update 4 (11/26/13): It looks like the update is still on track for the end of the year, but a delay is not out of the question. It is in internal lab testing right now though. https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/405422654338777088
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I was passing by on my way from the One X+ Forums, and I recently got confirmation from this wonderful man that my phone would be receiving the 4.2.2 update by the end of the year.. While browsing through his Twitter feed, I came across this tweet from him, which at least confirms that a plan is being worked out to release the same update for you guys. That is the same response he gave about the One X+ not too long ago, but now that has been confirmed, so I would expect a full confirmation soon for the EVO. It looks like you guys haven't been forgotten after all. :highfive:
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I'm sorry bro the EVO LTE is not getting another update. They simply don't have the stomachs to tell us. They know this will banish users from HTC so they will not give a confirmation for as long as they can, IF EVER, hoping w simply forget about it. Also in that tweet he said he is working with the "Carriers" on a plan, but Sprint is the only carrier carrying the EVO LTE. So it's simply a canned (no pun intended) response.
Why hasn’t HTC and Sprint fixed the MMS picture bug yet? It’s been a year and a half?! WTF? Every time I send a MMS picture I get angry as I have to add another pic, then another to get a full screen pic you can see that isn’t compressed, then delete the first slide, then retype or paste (what I previously copied) and then send, rinse and repeat! FLUCK YOU HTC! I shouldn’t have to use a third party app to send picture messages or do 50+ things to get a decent picture to send! And the pictures that send when I don’t do anything are unreadable! Blurry to the point where huge text gets garbled! This is pissing me off, as I just had to send one, so this is a rant but I’m still pissed!
+1 on why I will never buy another HTC!
+2 I’ll never forgive them for the year I spent having to turn my screen on and off a million times as my proximity sensor wasn’t working (proximity bug)!
WindyCityRockr, you're a dev, will the newest EVO LTE update kill your and S-OFF app? I want to take the update but not if it kills the option to root and S-OFF. Thanks.
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On mobile, but I didn't see anything in his time line to indicate the evo LTE is getting 4.2
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I won't believe anything until it is actually released.
That said, it is still too little too late and I will be moving on from HTC.
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On mobile, but I didn't see anything in his time line to indicate the evo LTE is getting 4.2
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He directly answered a question about the Evo LTE and said they were working on it internally and with Sprint. It's vague, but it's something.
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I'm sorry bro the EVO LTE is not getting another update. They simply don't have the stomachs to tell us. They know this will banish users from HTC so they will not give a confirmation for as long as they can, IF EVER, hoping w simply forget about it. Also in that tweet he said he is working with the "Carriers" on a plan, but Sprint is the only carrier carrying the EVO LTE. So it's simply a canned (no pun intended) response.
Why hasn’t HTC and Sprint fixed the MMS picture bug yet? It’s been a year and a half?! WTF? Every time I send a MMS picture I get angry as I have to add another pic, then another to get a full screen pic you can see that isn’t compressed, then delete the first slide, then retype or paste (what I previously copied) and then send, rinse and repeat! FLUCK YOU HTC! I shouldn’t have to use a third party app to send picture messages or do 50+ things to get a decent picture to send! And the pictures that send when I don’t do anything are unreadable! Blurry to the point where huge text gets garbled! This is pissing me off, as I just had to send one, so this is a rant but I’m still pissed!
+1 on why I will never buy another HTC!
+2 I’ll never forgive them for the year I spent having to turn my screen on and off a million times as my proximity sensor wasn’t working (proximity bug)!
WindyCityRockr, you're a dev, will the newest EVO LTE update kill your and S-OFF app? I want to take the update but not if it kills the option to root and S-OFF. Thanks.
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I don't have this phone, so I can't say for sure if the update breaks root or S-OFF. Someone will have to test it first.
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On mobile, but I didn't see anything in his time line to indicate the evo LTE is getting 4.2
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I won't believe anything until it is actually released.
That said, it is still too little too late and I will be moving on from HTC.
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I understand your guy's frustrations. For the longest time, we over at the HOX+ section didn't believe that we'd get the 4.2.2 update, but we did. And now that 4.2.2 has been confirmed for the HOX and almost confirmed for the EVO, I believe that HTC won't leave you guys behind that quickly. At least not until after the 4.2.2 update.
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I don't have this phone, so I can't say for sure if the update breaks root or S-OFF. Someone will have to test it first.
I understand your guy's frustrations. For the longest time, we over at the HOX+ section didn't believe that we'd get the 4.2.2 update, but we did. And now that 4.2.2 has been confirmed for the HOX and almost confirmed for the EVO, I believe that HTC won't leave you guys behind that quickly. At least not until after the 4.2.2 update.
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Did you see my post above? I STILL can't send MMS messages without going through a huge task or another app altogether. HTC doesn't care about their customers sadly. They will leave us in the dust, I'm willing to bet $100 and start a pool if anyone is interested?! LTE still sucks on the phone as does signal strength. I used to get a better signal with my OG EVO and I have a list of other issues. But I'm stuck on my contact and there is not much I can do for now. I can tell you that I will never give HTC another dollar of my money as long as I live! WindyCityRockr keep up the good work bro!
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Just because the HOX got the update doesn't mean we will. We're not the same breed. It's like assuming that because we share so much DNA with chimps, we will be able to have chimp babies too. Not happening until it happens, which, in all likelyhood, will be never.
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I'm sorry bro the EVO LTE is not getting another update. They simply don't have the stomachs to tell us. They know this will banish users from HTC so they will not give a confirmation for as long as they can, IF EVER, hoping w simply forget about it. Also in that tweet he said he is working with the "Carriers" on a plan, but Sprint is the only carrier carrying the EVO LTE. So it's simply a canned (no pun intended) response.
Why hasn’t HTC and Sprint fixed the MMS picture bug yet? It’s been a year and a half?! WTF? Every time I send a MMS picture I get angry as I have to add another pic, then another to get a full screen pic you can see that isn’t compressed, then delete the first slide, then retype or paste (what I previously copied) and then send, rinse and repeat! FLUCK YOU HTC! I shouldn’t have to use a third party app to send picture messages or do 50+ things to get a decent picture to send! And the pictures that send when I don’t do anything are unreadable! Blurry to the point where huge text gets garbled! This is pissing me off, as I just had to send one, so this is a rant but I’m still pissed!
+1 on why I will never buy another HTC!
+2 I’ll never forgive them for the year I spent having to turn my screen on and off a million times as my proximity sensor wasn’t working (proximity bug)!
WindyCityRockr, you're a dev, will the newest EVO LTE update kill your and S-OFF app? I want to take the update but not if it kills the option to root and S-OFF. Thanks.
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It locks your bootloader but you still have s off
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3.17.651.4 rolling out now. Not much in it.
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I'm not seeing anything in your link to suggest we'll be getting 4.2.2 or sense 5. Do you have a more direct link you could share to that information?
All I see is a reply from him regarding the Evo LTE saying, "No worries, nothing confirmed yet..."
With the keyword being "nothing".
He didn't mention 4.2.2 or Sense 5, or that we would even be getting anything at all.
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I'm not seeing anything in your link to suggest we'll be getting 4.2.2 or sense 5. Do you have a more direct link you could share to that information?
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The HTC Developer who tweeted the information specifically responded to a question about Sense 5 and 4.2.2 here, stating that they are working with the carrier on a plan for the update. There's some obvious speculation here, but it confirms that there is plan being made to release the update. Whether they go through with that plan is another thing. Many people thought HTC had completely left behind the EVO, but this is proving that work is still being done towards it, however large or small it may be.
Edit: Yes, he did make that clarifying statement afterwards, but he did confirm work at one point in time. Most likely he is waiting on a specific timeline, as his response is similar to many other phones before the update was official.
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The HTC Developer who tweeted the information specifically responded to a question about Sense 5 and 4.2.2 here, stating that they are working with the carrier on a plan for the update. There's some obvious speculation here, but it confirms that there is plan being made to release the update. Whether they go through with that plan is another thing. Many people thought HTC had completely left behind the EVO, but this is proving that work is still being done towards it, however large or small it may be.
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To be honest, it just sounds like normal PR spin. This latest update doesn't exactly inspire confidence in htc's resolve to support the device if their own maintenance upgrades are using a version of android that's over a year old.
We have a handful of people here who, in their free time and without any proprietary information, can get the device working very well on the latest version of android, yet htc is unable to devote enough resource towards it to push out a proper upgrade?
If this was just a stop-gap until a larger one could be pushed out it would be one thing, but, in my opinion, the comments so far do not suggest that's the case. It sounds like he's leaving it open for interpretation in the hope that people will look upon it favorably and spread rumors that are inaccurate.
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To be honest, it just sounds like normal PR spin. This latest update doesn't exactly inspire confidence in htc's resolve to support the device if their own maintenance upgrades are using a version of android that's over a year old.
We have a handful of people here who, in their free time and without any proprietary information, can get the device working very well on the latest version of android, yet htc is unable to devote enough resource towards it to push out a proper upgrade?
If this was just a stop-gap until a larger one could be pushed out it would be one thing, but, in my opinion, the comments so far do not suggest that's the case. It sounds like he's leaving it open for interpretation in the hope that people will look upon it favorably and spread rumors that are inaccurate.
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I completely understand. I'm probably being too optimistic here with my hopes for HTC. They, and most manufacturers, have bad track records when it comes to these kinds of updates, though HTC has improved recently. Improvement unfortunately means already 1 year old software released as a new update, but it is progress towards the ultimate goal of quick Android updates. There is most likely a lot of PR going on here, but he did confirm they are working with the carriers, one of which, I'm again assuming, is Sprint, as they're working with AT&T for updates on similarly older phones, such as the One X and One X+. Yes, they are very different phones, but the One X+ was a mid-cycle phone and has a considerably smaller user base, and they are still releasing 4.2.2, so that gives me some hope for the EVO.
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The HTC Developer who tweeted the information specifically responded to a question about Sense 5 and 4.2.2 here, stating that they are working with the carrier on a plan for the update. There's some obvious speculation here, but it confirms that there is plan being made to release the update. Whether they go through with that plan is another thing. Many people thought HTC had completely left behind the EVO, but this is proving that work is still being done towards it, however large or small it may be.
Edit: Yes, he did make that clarifying statement afterwards, but he did confirm work at one point in time. Most likely he is waiting on a specific timeline, as his response is similar to many other phones before the update was official.
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To be honest, it just sounds like normal PR spin. This latest update doesn't exactly inspire confidence in htc's resolve to support the device if their own maintenance upgrades are using a version of android that's over a year old.
We have a handful of people here who, in their free time and without any proprietary information, can get the device working very well on the latest version of android, yet htc is unable to devote enough resource towards it to push out a proper upgrade?
If this was just a stop-gap until a larger one could be pushed out it would be one thing, but, in my opinion, the comments so far do not suggest that's the case. It sounds like he's leaving it open for interpretation in the hope that people will look upon it favorably and spread rumors that are inaccurate.
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xHausx I tweeted to HTC as well and you are correct, that is the normal PR spin, I got the SAME response. WindyCityRockr, do not forget all of our talented DEVs that will bring us 4.2.2 & 4.3 to our phones. They are keeping it alive!
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xHausx I tweeted to HTC as well and you are correct, that is the normal PR spin, I got the SAME response. WindyCityRockr, do not forget all of our talented DEVs that will bring us 4.2.2 & 4.3 to our phones. They are keeping it alive!
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I am by no means, at all, trying to diminish the work that the Devs have done. They are some of the most important people for maintaining a device and keeping it up to date. I'm just trying to be optimistic about HTC's prospects for the phone. There isn't very much evidence at this point, but they haven't outright denied it, which makes it more of a possibility than most people around here have made it seem.
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I was actually kinda expecting this from them. I got shat on with the Hero and was really not expecting much in the way of constant support from HTC. Especially when all you hear in the news stories is how badly they are doing as a company. I guess it's a good thing I've grown tired of Sense anyways.
Update from President of HTC USA in the OP. Again, nothing confirmed, but he did corroborate the developer's original tweet in that they are working on finalizing a plan for the update.
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Update from President of HTC USA in the OP. Again, nothing confirmed, but he did corroborate the developer's original tweet in that they are working on finalizing a plan for the update.
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Would require no plan if they were to drop support entirely. Optimistic since the one x shares the same hardware.
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Would require no plan if they were to drop support entirely. Optimistic since the one x shares the same hardware.
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IMHO, they are working on it. things could change, but the president of the company doesn't tweet that unless it is getting worked on.
who knows whose hands the update is in right now (htc or sprints) but it is likely that this device moves up in priority now that the One has 4.3.
I can't think of many devices more popular on sprint that are more popular than this other than iphone (os updates go much quicker), HTC one (already up to date), the GS3/4 (not sure where they are)>
Fingers crossed for maybe middle november.
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IMHO, they are working on it. things could change, but the president of the company doesn't tweet that unless it is getting worked on.
who knows whose hands the update is in right now (htc or sprints) but it is likely that this device moves up in priority now that the One has 4.3.
I can't think of many devices more popular on sprint that are more popular than this other than iphone (os updates go much quicker), HTC one (already up to date), the GS3/4 (not sure where they are)>
Fingers crossed for maybe middle november.
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Would be a win to beat out the gs3
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