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This is in the general section, so I think I'm safe posting this, heh.
I'm going to start by saying this: I love my E3D. I left TMo before getting the Sensation to come back to Sprint for the Evo 3D. Locked bootloader or no, broken promises or no, this is the BADDEST device I've ever had my hands on!
That being said, yes, I'm more than a tad honked off @ HTC for tossing us BS/No answers for the bootloader unlocking issue, and have sent my emails to them in kind. I've been watching the Facebook/Twitter/Official Web sites since these shenanigans started, and what I see shocks me... People literally THREATENING HTC with things ranging from something as severe as hacking the company, to as minor as just returning their phones.
The worst I see though, are the threats to go with the Galaxy S2.
How quickly some forget the crap that Samsung was party to in regards to the Moment, the Epic/Vibrant/Captivate/Fascinate, and the Intercept. Did we all just blank out that time in our collective consciousness, the crap that was packaged as a Samsung device? How terrible they performed? How they kept promising phantom updates that would not show up at all or materialize, brick phones, then be pulled off the market? How they liked to fall apart and not work? The only Samsung device worth its salt, that I can see, is the Nexus S - and that's mostly because it was pure Google software.
Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage, but I've not once had ANY issue with my HTC devices from WM6 to Android - but I've had nothing but a terrible history with Sammy, and I know I'm not the only one.
So... IJS. My 2 cents on the whole issue - I hope it was coherent enough to make Sense (lolz)... pain killers for the back are a b****.
Edit: I just read the post with the HTC response that they WILL unlock the bootloader, so that's at least a step in the right direction..
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
I'm hoping every thread on the 1st page of the Evo 3d general forums is filled with complaining about bootloader's. Seems to be the trend.
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Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
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That did crack me up.
The complaining got them to step up and commit to unlock in the first place. That HTC page is going to be a warzone until they start systematically issuing the OTAs that will unlock these devices we paid for.
...and so far as the threats of buying Samsung, while I agree with you (except that the NexusS is somehow any better...same weak radios, my main concern), consumers should 'vote with their wallet' more often. Then companies might be a little more cautious about trying bull**** like this. Even if they provide a technically better product if it is not provided on terms you agree with (locked) or worse yet the company lies to you about future functionality...well...vote with your wallet. That's a language they'll understand.
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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I completely agree with you, and I stay away from everything Sammy usually, so I didn't fully realize how close the devices are hardware-wise.
I'm digging my 3d capability, and I think I've almost got it dialed-in.
All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Ive had SGS2 for two weeks. 3D actually is faster to me. Consistantly.
But camera? Nope. Not really close unfortunately.
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All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Really? Well I'm no camera expert. In the lab, which is all flourescent lighting....EVO 3d did spectacular.
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Hi, Evos!
Coming from a Galaxy S2 (verdict: terrible) I now own a HTC Sensation, which I am very happy with - I think it is a truly great phone, I even like the stock software (although I prefer ADW Launcher EX to Sense), and especially love the form factor and ergonomics of the phone. Battery life is pretty "sensational" as well (with HTC Sense-sync disabled, but everything else, like push-mail or IM clients, as-is).
Unfortunately, I seem to have bad luck as my phones display has gotten defective - my merchant would either allow me to replace the phone or get a full refund. Choosing the refund would allow me to wait for the HTC Evo 3D GSM-release, which is very soon.
So my questions are: How is day-to-day with the Evo 3D? Judging from the pictures, I am a bit worried about the phone feeling bulky compared to the Sensation (which has a much more round contour). What are the expectations for the developer-scene? The Evo 3D seems to have more interested programmers behind it than the Sensation.
I would love to hear your impressions! I am especially interested in hearing opinions of XDA users who own both phones, or have had access to both phones. Thanks!
i have not played with the Sensation but I was surprised at how the phone feels in my hand, which is very nice. It has good weight but doesn't feel bulky. I came from the HeroC and was a little worried going from one that was small to one that was so big. But I have barely even noticed. As for day to day usage, I think it works great. I haven't had battery problems unless i sit and play some big game for a couple of hours.
It's great, size wise: the EVO 3D is chunkier (The version Europe will get could be thinner, our CDMA powered phones tend to be thinker, also battery life on your EVO will be better than ours & your Sensation, as it packs a bigger battery. The Sensation feels better in the hand but the EVO 3D isn't uncomfortable at all, its better in the hand than the EVO 4G was.
We have fewer hardware issues & our software issues were addressed fast, it could be HTC or Sprint, I'm not sure but updates have been pretty swift.
Again this could vary with the EUR EVO 3D.
The Developer scene is good, some minor things may be interchangeable now but once the bootloaders come loose, ROMs won't be interchangable with this section.
Thats not to say you won't get great development when it lands. Its a waiting game as it stands.
You'll like the dedicated camera button, bigger battery, the 3D, the Extra ram & the slightly better processor.
Vondafone should be the 1st to get it I think. An unlocked one should come later if you're gonna stay on Austria Telecom.
I so far love it. Feels good in my hand very solid feel. the haptic touch is very tight and screen is responsive to everything.
What was the downfalls of the Galaxy 2 since most sites are trying to say its a step up from the EVO 3d/Sensation.
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Hi, Evos!
Coming from a Galaxy S2 (verdict: terrible) I now own a HTC Sensation, which I am very happy with - I think it is a truly great phone, I even like the stock software (although I prefer ADW Launcher EX to Sense), and especially love the form factor and ergonomics of the phone. Battery life is pretty "sensational" as well (with HTC Sense-sync disabled, but everything else, like push-mail or IM clients, as-is).
Unfortunately, I seem to have bad luck as my phones display has gotten defective - my merchant would either allow me to replace the phone or get a full refund. Choosing the refund would allow me to wait for the HTC Evo 3D GSM-release, which is very soon.
So my questions are: How is day-to-day with the Evo 3D? Judging from the pictures, I am a bit worried about the phone feeling bulky compared to the Sensation (which has a much more round contour). What are the expectations for the developer-scene? The Evo 3D seems to have more interested programmers behind it than the Sensation.
I would love to hear your impressions! I am especially interested in hearing opinions of XDA users who own both phones, or have had access to both phones. Thanks!
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If you don't mind me asking (and not to stir the topic off course), why did you rate the SGS2 as terrible? I would appreciate the feedback.
I currently own the evo 3d, it is a great phone. Feels great, runs FAST, and the battery life is great for myself. You can't go wrong with it. The extra ram compared to the sensation is nice as well.
Thanks for all your responses so far, I really appreciate the feedback! I am strongly considering waiting for the Evo 3D, I think I may be able to bear the Nexus One for a few more weeks - it seems so tiny now
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What was the downfalls of the Galaxy 2 since most sites are trying to say its a step up from the EVO 3d/Sensation.
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If you don't mind me asking (and not to stir the topic off course), why did you rate the SGS2 as terrible? I would appreciate the feedback.
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I think the Samsung Galaxy S2 has quite a few very significant downfalls/design problems. While in theory a great phone (fast, very thin design) these did push my decision to buying a Sensation:
low display resolution: 800x480 is no longer enough for me - fonts get much crisper and more readable with qHD, websites display a much larger area, list views are better. The Sensations/Evo 3Ds higher resolution makes all the difference, improves the quality by a lot.
extreme colour banding: The S2s display shows an extreme amount of colour banding, apparent in almost all applications. Better black levels aren't worth such atrocious colour reproduction.
uncomfortable ergonomics: Yes, the design is very slim, but that comes at a price: The thin edges make the phone pretty uncomfortable to hold, long calls are awkward due to the sharp upper edge, very close to the speaker. The hand-feeling is very off, compared to the cushy Sensation.
TouchWiz is absolutely terrible: What Samsung did to Android is extremely sad - their launcher apes the iPhones launcher, including all of its faults (no sorting of apps by alphabet, unelegant). The TouchWiz stock-android-replacements (calendar, email, music) are all of atrocious quality, including glaring bugs or featuring terrible usability.
I cannot speak to the GS2, but coming from the Epic to the EVO 3D, I have a thought.
It seems that samsung makes some really great hardware, but their software/support is minimal at best.
HTC in comparison seems to have much stronger support in terms of apps, widgets, and just overall Android enhancement. Not only was touch wiz anemic as far as features go, but it seemed to lock out any other customization.
For example, i couldn't find any sort of lock screen app/widget/customization that would replace the stock locker. instead, it sorta came either before or after the samsung lock. The Epic just seemed hard to tweak/customize, and they offered no worthwhile widgets or apps of their own. Stock Clock? Weather Clock? The froyo update finally allowed some sort of location-aware weather, but that was barely functional at best.
It also appeared that, while samsung, on the surface, had the better hardware, the OS and apps did not seem to take proper advantage of the better CPU/GPU setup. Now, I did try the leaked gingerbread, and it was a significant improvement. However, there were stability issues that kept me away. Plus, i had no faith that the Epic would continue to get support and upgrades. I think that Samsung/Sprint would rather push the new hardware rather than risk cannibalizing new sales by upgrading previous products.
So, overall, samsung/sprint have left me very skeptical of any future purchases, not because of quality or hardware, but because of the policies and behavior of the manufacturer.
By the way, while this appears to be off topic, I should mention that I currently have an EVO 3D, which makes the epic look like an unpolished toy at best. And I think the Epic is great, but totally mismanaged/underutilized.
Well I think the gs2 is a nice phone.
However I both chose and love my EVO3d because...
I started android day 1 with g1. It was a work horse. Everything worked.
Eventually I went to the Samsung Vibrant. The damn phone had a great screen. But never worked right.
It never got updates. Took forever.
Moved on to the g2x. It had potential. But my phone would heat up to the point I had to take it out of my pocket. Once in a meeting and luckily my boss was willing to hear me out and felt it. She just said damn. You need to get exchanged.
My wife could not get hers to switch from data to WiFi . No matter the amount of resets. Ever.
Tmobile sent refurbished phones. The phones were 18 days owned. they tried to replace brand new 18 days owned purchased full out phones with refurbs.
We left to Sprint and got the EVO3d.
Mine is all love and good. Hers has a signal issue. Hers has to be returned.
We have issues. We went through wirefly. They need 250 to return a phone. Then they refund. We can't afford that. 4 kids.
So I'm worried wirefly just sold me a defective phone and I won't be able to get a working EVO
Sprint says hers has never connected right to the network. It doesn't stay connected.
It's a defective unit.
If it wasn't for that we would be as satisfied as we were with our g1's.
The phone is great.
I've played a plenty with the sensation. Pretty much the same. But when you power up the sensation its smooth for a little. The you open the internet. Or xda. It keeps that running in the background cache.
Then you see that jittery effect.
The EVO3d does not suffer the jitter type problem. Ever. It is just smooth.
Honest.
3d movies. Wow.
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Another Galaxy negative: As someone who always carries a spare battery and therefore exchanges it regularly (when needed), the flimsy SGS2 back cover was pretty unnerving to me - especially combined with the much worse battery life I experienced with that phone, compared to the Sensations pretty excellent runtime.
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Vodafone should be the 1st to get it I think. An unlocked one should come later if you're gonna stay on Austria Telecom.
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I am not all that exalted about HTCs decision to have a one-month Vodafone/A1/Swisscom exclusivity period before the unlocked release. But I will probably wait the wait for the SIM-free option.
I am eligible to upgrade my phone and I will just like to know if I should upgrade to the Evo 3d or stay with my Evo 4G.I know is a dumb question but I just want to know what you guys think.thanks
What will you use it for? If just phone calls and or flashing roms...then no...evo been around for awhile and works good. If you need to flash you have tons of customs roms. The evo still holds itself well among phones. But, it you want a kick ass phone that is now not really mod able but will be soon...or desire faster, better and IMO opinion...a really good phone..then yes. I bought the phone for cash...I did not have a upgrade coming until november...when I bought..I knew there was no flash able roms yet..and was not really usable with titanium or root explorer...now that is not the case but I really miss flashing. I have no regrets..the 3d feature is a nice feature..and battery life on this phone is much better than my OG evo. Currently loving the better screen also.
Better screen, faster processor, more RAM, better everything. Once the bootloader is unlocked this phone will explode with ROMs. If you are eligible and have the money, there should be no question.
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Go play with one, if it excites you buy it. Never buy anything that doesn't excite you.
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I'm Going To Agree With Everything Said Already, But Add One More Thing. Look At The 3D Aspect As An ADD-ON. I Think The Reason The Review's For This Phone Are Lower Than Expected Is Because The Reviewers Thought That 3D Was All The Phone Had To Offer.
This Phone Is A Lot More Than Just 3D, And When We Get S-Off, This Phone Will Be The Best.
There is a lot that I don't like about this phone but i still have a problem getting rid of it. If it were me I'd hold off till more bugs vet worked out and the hardware becomes better. I'm on my 3rd 3d and each one has had different problems. The current one has screen lock up.
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Ive had 3 3Ds as well (one I exchanged for another) I did have a problem with one but the other 2 work perfectly. I think the 3D is a truly awesome phone in every way including the 3D part of it. The only thing I dont like is that the screen isnt as wide as the 4G. I know its cause the aspect ratio is 16:9 and the resolution is higher but I miss it. I still would trade it for a 3D in a second.
It depends on what your looking for and how long you want to wait. Personally I love the 3vo. But Sprint is getting some other high end phones (photon, within aka gsII, possibly a nexus in November...) and your og EVO will easily last till those phones come out. I couldn't wait any longer cuz I love the latest and greatest so I got the 3vo
stay with the evo 4g wait for a better phone to come out I hate my 3d data speeds suck I when back to my evo 4g and data is great again
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It depends on what your looking for and how long you want to wait. Personally I love the 3vo. But Sprint is getting some other high end phones (photon, within aka gsII, possibly a nexus in November...) and your og EVO will easily last till those phones come out. I couldn't wait any longer cuz I love the latest and greatest so I got the 3vo
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Seriously..wait for a crappy motorola(which is bootloader locked, and never will be unlocked) or a even more crappy samsung product..get real he asked about EVOs..And to the OP..def get the 3d..dude above said it perfect..3d is an addon..the phone is a beast spec wise!!
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Seriously..wait for a crappy motorola(which is bootloader locked, and never will be unlocked) or a even more crappy samsung product..get real he asked about EVOs..And to the OP..def get the 3d..dude above said it perfect..3d is an addon..the phone is a beast spec wise!!
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Just because you don't personally like Motorola or Samsung doesn't mean they aren't good products... I like HTC best but other manufacturers do have advantages in certain aspects. And he never specifics about just evos. Although I did re read his post and it doesnt ask about upgrading later. All I'm saying is theres no need to flame I was just trying to be helpful like everyone else here.
Coming from an EVO myself I like this one a lot, I miss the kickstannd but I do like it that is a bit longer and less wide easier to hold on the hand, we don't have roms but they are some themes a lot good ones too so you don't need to depend on HTC for them zone23 came from the EVO as well, teamwin, I haven't seen any other developers tho, battery life is better RAM helps a lot duel core is nice but i don't think is use completely with OS and we're pretty sure we getting ice cream update, HTC sense if you like it on the EVO you will love it here , sure myn, ava and xxxvirusxxx and other developers has done a great job with synergy but having out the box works amazing , I sold my EVO with extras for 160$ ( broken digitizer ) and I pay like 56$ with tac more and I'm happy not missing root to much cause there is a lot cuztomization on the stock sense hope the helps
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Honestly
I think the 3vo is a better overall phone. Honestly I was able to sell the EVO stock for $250 so I actually made money off the upgrade. But the 3vo is in my opinion faster and a better phone. If you can deal with not being able to root it yet, which for some is a dealbreaker then its a no brainer in my opinion
3VO has a higher resolution and much faster processor. Right now you can Oc'd to 1.8 if you want too. It's amazing. And you still have the customization of adw ex. I came from EVO og and was flashing roms all the time. This just works so fast and well out of the box. The speed and resolution are what's really keeping me with the 3VO. I don't think I can do a lower res like gs2 ever again.
Hi folks,
I'm hoping to pick your brains for advice and info on the Evo 3D.
I'm an ex HTC Desire owner and HTC Sense fan, after selling my desire I bought a sim free Incredible S, but after trying 3 different handsets all 3 were returned due to signal loss on the O2 network.
I'm now looking for my next phone (sim free non contract) and I'm struggling to settle on a good one! I thought I was set on the standard HTC Sensation, but after seeing numerous mentions of 'dust under screen', poor battery life, death grip etc, I have to say that I've just about given up on it.
The other phone on my list is the Samsung Galaxy S II, however it's not going to have HTC Sense and I'm not a great fan of Touchwiz. I've also just seen mention of a screen burn type problem which is a bit of a concern. The other specs look quite good for the phone though.
This evening I stumbled on the Evo 3D forum! The phone looks quite nice, it has Sense, it has 3D features which don't really interest me. I also spotted a couple of familiar names in the rom dev section, LeeDroid and Baadnewz .... I thought you guys had Sensations?
So after all that waffle, what I'm really after are your opinions on the Evo 3D, what would you say are the pros and cons, what should I be aware of?
Would you still recommend the Evo 3D, given what you know now from your own experience?
Thanks very much!
I got the EVO3D mainly because I wanted to get the Sensation but I read a review that said ther EVO3D was very similar - so I went for it.
I'm happy so far - I feel as though I have an upgraded Desire HD in all aspects. The phone is probably not as fast as the SGSII, and doesn't have an 8mp/1080p camera, but other than that it seems pretty solid so far.
How's the battery life with yours?
The battery life is roughly 50% better than with the DesireHD. It lasts me through the day with no issues.
I'd wager it'd last 1.5 days in most scenarios
Any advice from other Evo owners?
I came from the EVO 4G. The 3D is faster, has more storage, and better battery life. I would recommend using a good ROM (like Warm 2.3 when its final) and maybe playing with some Kernels to get even better battery life. The 3D features are pretty useless to me personally.
A have seen at least two XDA posters in the Mynion threads talk about getting the GSII and then deciding to go back to HTC with the 3D. If you plan on using stock roms, Samsung's TouchWhiz (or whatever they call it) is far inferior to the work HTC has done with the Sense UI. I hate Samsung's proprietary UI stuff. If you plan to flash custom ROMs anyway, this isnt as much of an issue. I also feel like HTC is quicker/better about getting updates out timely and supporting aging devices. Samsung "has been" notoriously bad enough this.
Sensation been great for me but every device is different so base your purchase on what works for you. Every phone has a batch of bad phones so get insurance and get a phone there all the same at the end of the day. And like he said it so many kernals out there that
fit your needs that you'll be happy with anyone I those phones.
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Just to clarify, does the Evo have the antenna as part of the back cover like the Sensation and Incredible S do?
Any death grip problems? Any screen issues, i.e dust getting under it?
Thanks again.
I came from the Evo 4g and have seen a night and day difference in the battery life. I can go the whole day with no issues. I also have rooted it and currently have Virus' Eternity 1.4.2 rom and stock kernel. The speeds are decent with the stock kernel and the battery life is good which is the main reason I haven't switched kernels yet. I recommend the 3d. I like the capability of watching 3d movies on my phone since I'm on the go most of the time it gives me the ability to watch 3d movies on a plane or where ever else I might be.
i too came from an evo, but i absolutely love the 3vo! at first i thought 3d was just a gimick, but it makes this phone a true show piece! processor is a nice lil upgrade to 1.2 which is plenty enough. plus....you can't beat the development on it! good luck!
Hi there. i have used both sensation and evo 3d
These 2 are both good phone, but, i liked the evo 3d much more for
1- the grip is far better from the sensation which have a nice design,but, not so comfortable to hold ( a bit slippery ) while in sensation you will feel much comfortable grip.
2- the response speed with sensation is beautiful and faster that the sensation.
3- the 3D screen is really nice. try downloading some videos and see for yourself. I personally liked it for videos and photos.
4- battery is good. It lasts a day without any problem with fair usage and data on.
I would vote for the evo 3d no dought. it is a very good device
Thanks
What do the Evo owners think to the still and video camera comparisons shown in the link below, would you say it's a fair representation? The Evo camera doesn't look so good in the review.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d_vs_htc_sensation_4g_head_to_head-review-626.php
The Sensation camera is a bit better of course, but, i did not see that the evo camera is not good.
i like the quality which i am getting from the camera. it is pretty good unless you want a unprofessional pic, then you will need a pro camera.
in summery the shots you get is pretty good since it is a phone cam not a pro cam.
I liked the clarity and colors
still it is a personal preference in the end and that was my opinion
I hope i was hepfull
I'm seeing conflicting information regarding the 2D video recording, some info states that the Evo records at 30fps, but I've also seen 24fps mentioned. Can anyome confirm either as being correct?
I know I am actually IN the 3D forums lol so it might be biased but I just would like an honest opinion on it. Plus I know a lot of people here were from the 4G forums so they have a better comparison.
I have an opportunity to basically get a free 3D and I can either give my g/f my Evo 4G or give her the 3D. The 4G community on XDA is fantastic and booming right now with ICS and all things Sense 3.0 and 3.5. The phone itself is a beast for being so old too.
How is the community here as far as being on the pulse of new stuff and ICS ect...? I like having options for flashing that are stable and updated. I also didn't really see a solid WIP project for ICS unless I just missed it. I assumed something of that nature would be on the 1st page with the new discovery of hardware acceleration.
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The EVO 3D is better than the EVO 4G in virtually every single way, except for the development. It is quite slow and nothing compared to the 4G. The 4G is also older and has matured more as a phone, so I would expect its development community to be better.
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The EVO 3D is better than the EVO 4G in virtually every single way, except for the development. It is quite slow and nothing compared to the 4G. The 4G is also older and has matured more as a phone, so I would expect its development community to be better.
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i second what freeza says. to tell you the truth, im a little dissapointed with the development of the evo 3d, at least as far as AOSP roms go. i feel like we have plenty of sense roms though, so if thats your thing, then great. I was a former cm7 user though and we still don't even have a beta of CM7 and havnt had an update since like october for cm7.
The phone itself is great, I am not completely upset about development because the e3d handles sense with ease. It is much more smooth and fast then my evo 4g ever was even with cm7 and over clocking.
to be clear. i do suggest you take the 3d, it is definitely a better phone. heres why
-better camera - yes less mp, but the flash works 100x better and it just wor3ks better. plus the camera hardware button is awesome. o ya, too. lol
-faster, smoother
-higher resolution screen.
-i think it feel better in you hand. personal preference i guess though.
The only real complaint I have about the 3D is the camera button. I actually prefer having a physical button, but it looks and feels tacked-on like an afterthought -- it should've been more like the volume buttons in shape and height. Otherwise, it's got a great feel to it, not as heavy-feeling as the 4G, but not cheap-feeling like some Samsung phones. The 3D camera is a gimmick that you'll soon get over, so thank goodness it's a great phone in every other respect.
I use CleanROM on mine after using Deck's AOSP on my 4G, and I don't notice any slowdown. I prefer HTC's calendar, dialer, contacts, and clock apps, so I was glad to be able to go back to Sense again (I use LP as my launcher though).
If the EVO 4G had a dual core processor I would say stick with it. While both screens are 4.3" the EVO 4G screen appears larger because of the 16:9 ratio used on the EVO 3D.
The EVO 3D screen also appears dropped down in the phone and not as flush with the bezel. You do get a better resolution on the 3D but HTC needs to step up the quality and colors of their screens to stay competitive.
I found the camera button to be a waste on the 3D as you had to push down so hard for it to take a pic that you would end up moving the whole camera. The pictures are def. better on the 3D but the camera still has a long ways to go to catch up to the competition.
Bottom line, knowing that quad core devices are around the corner, you will def. want to go with the dual core phone so you do not get left to far behind in the dirt...
Well, I now on the 3D. Only problem is it's hboot 1.5 so it seems I have a bit of reading to do to get some custom goodness going.
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@hockey4life the AOSP has really been stepped up over there btw. Most of it is obviously Cyanogen based but the custom Roms are solid and nice. MIUI is pretty popular and solid as well. ICS just today is in Preview 3 with hardware acceleration and for what it is is pretty stable as well.
When the 3D hardware becomes obsolete the value of the device will plummet, and the development will completely cease, I would predict. Where as the 4g will hold its resale value, and development might actually continue after the 3D dies. Also, the 3D will never have the size and speed of development that the 4g does and will.
The hardware is clearly superior though, and will still remain relevant after new devices come.
Your all leaving out the fact that the speaker on the 3D is terrible! Evo 4G's wasn't spectacular to begin with, but it puts the 3D's to shame!
Itt: ooh look at me, I have an amazing phone and all I do is hate on it
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I predict in June of next year, you're going to see a dramatic drop in the number of Evo 4G users ...
z50king said:
Itt: ooh look at me, I have an amazing phone and all I do is hate on it
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What the hell man? The freaking title even says HONEST opinion. The only way to answer his question with the least amount of bias is to include the pros AND cons of the device. You would never see a review online that doesn't include the high and low points, so why should this thread be any different? So you believe your device is great, but the thread asked for opinions, and that is what he got.
Hey, some people get a phone and hate it but are stuck with it. Lord knows i have gotten the "next best thing" and had to sit on it awhile so definitely good to get both sides.
I'm just shy of 24 hours into it and am enjoying it. I saw a lot of good points about the EVO 4G development and the 3D development. One thing I will say about the 3D that i am liking is that it is native Sense 3.0 and it runs SOOO smooth. 4G dev right now is hot but it's all beta and hacked 3.0/3.5 and ICS, no 4G no fully functioning camera, sms past 160 ect... The devs are absolutely amazing for what they do but compared to what I am seeing 3.0 should be running like it's like putting on that shirt you like that just quite doesn't fit anymore.
Don't flame me for this but it still is my opinion that this is a gimmick phone, 3D just wasn't very well thought out. I was literally over it about the 2nd picture lol. It's unfortunate that the 3D aspect is what prevents the devs from really digging in and blowing this thing up because dual core, EVO, and HTC all just equal greatness.
Ah well, thank you guys for the ups and downs, please if there is anything else I should know post up. I have been doing some non stop reading so far. Currently I am already HTC Unlocked and running Vipers Rom. I'm still learning about my limitations with hboot 1.5 but it seems to be just a few extra steps. I'll probably run this rom for a bit, any decent kernels out there? I'm not ready for the OC or undervolting yet but would like a decent kernel. My 4G was undervolted(is that a word lol) but this is a different beast.
All in all it was a free phone so I can't beat that with a stick.
blizzard1017 said:
Hey, some people get a phone and hate it but are stuck with it. Lord knows i have gotten the "next best thing" and had to sit on it awhile so definitely good to get both sides.
I'm just shy of 24 hours into it and am enjoying it. I saw a lot of good points about the EVO 4G development and the 3D development. One thing I will say about the 3D that i am liking is that it is native Sense 3.0 and it runs SOOO smooth. 4G dev right now is hot but it's all beta and hacked 3.0/3.5 and ICS, no 4G no fully functioning camera, sms past 160 ect... The devs are absolutely amazing for what they do but compared to what I am seeing 3.0 should be running like it's like putting on that shirt you like that just quite doesn't fit anymore.
Don't flame me for this but it still is my opinion that this is a gimmick phone, 3D just wasn't very well thought out. I was literally over it about the 2nd picture lol. It's unfortunate that the 3D aspect is what prevents the devs from really digging in and blowing this thing up because dual core, EVO, and HTC all just equal greatness.
Ah well, thank you guys for the ups and downs, please if there is anything else I should know post up. I have been doing some non stop reading so far. Currently I am already HTC Unlocked and running Vipers Rom. I'm still learning about my limitations with hboot 1.5 but it seems to be just a few extra steps. I'll probably run this rom for a bit, any decent kernels out there? I'm not ready for the OC or undervolting yet but would like a decent kernel. My 4G was undervolted(is that a word lol) but this is a different beast.
All in all it was a free phone so I can't beat that with a stick.
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its not really the 3d thats holding it back at all really. the only problem with the 3d is that feature will just be omitted on any roms that aren't built off the stock rom (like cm7 or sense 3.5, but i think they just figured out 3d on 3.5.). the chipset, or the low popularity of the chipset is holding it back. I dont believe there our any stable cm7 releases on our chipset family.
also want to add, none of the modded roms even feel as fast as the stock rom; therefore, since the phone is free, i dont see any reason not to upgrade. I kinda forgot about the whole hboot issue, i know they have some workarounds but i have the old one so i have never dealt with it.
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also want to add, none of the modded roms even feel as fast as the stock rom;
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Orly?
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Speaker is quiet. Overall I like the phone. I came from an epic 4g, and this community has 10x the development. I like the rom's and options everyone is putting out. I like the qhd screen and the dual core. The 3d is cool to show off to people. I think 3d takes better pictures than 2d as far as lighting goes. It runs very smooth stock, and that was the biggest reason I got it. Flipped the screen, it started the carousel thing, extremely smooth, and I bought it.
I forgot to mention. I got a free evo 4g a few weeks before the 3d, and I think the 3d is 5x better. It was a solid decision in my book getting the 3d.
Evo 3D taking it to Redline V2!
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Orly?
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i mean none of the modded evo 4g roms feel as fast as the stock evo 3d rom. i should have clarified.
hockey4life0099 said:
i mean none of the modded evo 4g roms feel as fast as the stock evo 3d rom. i should have clarified.
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Oh ok. I was like, Oh no, the system will fail if Hockey is tripping balls
hockey4life0099 said:
i mean none of the modded evo 4g roms feel as fast as the stock evo 3d rom. i should have clarified.
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Yea they weren't designed for the 4g. Hell native sense is still 1.0. The 2.1 rooms are dam smooth but when you have that 3.0 goodness why settle.
I like my choice so far. About the 3d holding it back, I'm clearly going on stuff I have read. I have seen both sides of the fence on that.
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freeza said:
The EVO 3D is better than the EVO 4G in virtually every single way, except for the development. It is quite slow and nothing compared to the 4G. The 4G is also older and has matured more as a phone, so I would expect its development community to be better.
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Exactly. This phone bores me.
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blizzard1017 said:
Yea they weren't designed for the 4g. Hell native sense is still 1.0. The 2.1 rooms are dam smooth but when you have that 3.0 goodness why settle.
I like my choice so far. About the 3d holding it back, I'm clearly going on stuff I have read. I have seen both sides of the fence on that.
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I can accurately tell you with confidence why the evo 3D development and popularity isn't there. You are right, the 3D is just a gimmick. Until glasses free 3D technology hits HD resolution, vibrant color depth, doesn't hurt people's eyes, and more devices can display 3D it will just be a feature that is nearly irrelevant, not a selling point. So, if you take away the 3D you are left with a phone that has hardware that is not at all revolutionary. Don't get me wrong, it performs well, but none of the technical specs were "never before seen".
Now, the 4g was revolutionary when it came out. First Android device device with 4g, in the world. Hdmi, 8mp camera, 1ghz snap dragon processor. All those features made the thing real popular. The number of people that own the device is therefore much higher. The hardware isn't the best out anymore but still very well preforming for current software trends.