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Hello!
Is there anyway I can manage my tasks better?
I tried those Advanced Task Managers, Task Killers, Memory Optimizers...
I got HTC Evo 3D and all the time I'm having only 200mb of free memory?
All the time application start by themselfes :/
and is there any suggestion for battery?
I'm using JuiceDefender?
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You don't need one.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Don't do it!!! No matter what people in real life say.
Are you thinking what I'm thinking Pinky?
chefdave12118 said:
Don't do it!!! No matter what people in real life say.
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This man is right. On Android 2.1, task killers were actually beneficial. Ever since Froyo, Android has done a much better job of memory management. Task killers are NOT needed.
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When you go into Settings->Applications, there is a check box for "Start Automatically". "Auto launch task manager after device startup".
What is that? What happens if you don't check it?
aypanthony said:
Related question....
When you go into Settings->Applications, there is a check box for "Start Automatically". "Auto launch task manager after device startup".
What is that? What happens if you don't check it?
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HTC has its own built in Task Manager on Sense 3.0. I'm guessing if you don't check it, it just let's Android do its thing on its own.
SolsticeZero said:
HTC has its own built in Task Manager on Sense 3.0. I'm guessing if you don't check it, it just let's Android do its thing on its own.
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So do most people leave it checked or unchecked? Just curious. I would rather let Android manage RAM.
aypanthony said:
So do most people leave it checked or unchecked? Just curious. I would rather let Android manage RAM.
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Now I'm not 100% sure, but I think unchecking it would make it just not load when you boot up the phone. I'm not sure there's a way to 100% remove it. But, then again, I'm not a dev, so I could be wrong.
I leave it unchecked, but you can remove the apk (task manager). That's the one that comes up in you notification bar.
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Wanting to use "Advanced Task Killer" app instead of rooting: Good or Bad idea?
Hi folks,
Since I've decided not to root my phone, I need an alternative.
I noticed the "Advanced Task Killer" app and wondered if this helps to stop bloatware.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thank you kindly,
stefnuts
stefnuts said:
Hi folks,
Since I've decided not to root my phone, I need an alternative.
I noticed the "Advanced Task Killer" app and wondered if this helps to stop bloatware.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thank you kindly,
stefnuts
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definitely not, i think
@stratax,
Thanks man.......Darn it!
Well, maybe with ICS coming out for the Amaze 4G, app/task management will be better??!
Who knows?
Thanks again
I currently use advanced task killer. Is anything wrong with it?
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stefnuts said:
Hi folks,
Since I've decided not to root my phone, I need an alternative.
I noticed the "Advanced Task Killer" app and wondered if this helps to stop bloatware.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Thank you kindly,
stefnuts
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Once you kill it the program will restart itself. No matter what every time you kill it, it will restart. which will cause your phone to lag and use more battery than the phone would if everything was running. The way the android operating system is designed is to have every program running in the background. How ever the program isn't actually running. Using task killers can do more harm than good when it comes to things like bloatware. It can cause and has caused my phone crash. Id just use Titanium backup to get rid of what you can. Overall I'd just use the task manager installed in the amaze because I stopped using a task killer and i get better performance as well as the same battery life ect.
I've always stayed away from using task killers unless I'm really desperate to free up some RAM... In general, I always just freeze whatever apps I don't want running at all (eg. bloatware, stock messing app, Sense if I'm using a third party launcher, etc) and never had any noticeable issues with not having enough free RAM
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Once you kill it the program will restart itself. No matter what every time you kill it, it will restart. which will cause your phone to lag and use more battery than the phone would if everything was running. The way the android operating system is designed is to have every program running in the background. How ever the program isn't actually running. Using task killers can do more harm than good when it comes to things like bloatware. It can cause and has caused my phone crash. Id just use Titanium backup to get rid of what you can. Overall I'd just use the task manager installed in the amaze because I stopped using a task killer and i get better performance as well as the same battery life ect.
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exactly my thoughts you said it perfectly.
Well that makes sense to me, ill be getting rid of it and seeing how long my battery lasts
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cndctrdj said:
Well that makes sense to me, ill be getting rid of it and seeing how long my battery lasts
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Have you tried V6 Supercharger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
juice defender
Most kernel devs (people who really know how stuff like this are handled) will tell you to stay away from task killers.
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juice defender
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The problem with Juice Defender is that most of the power saving settings can be achieved without the app, and the screen off/data off feature sucks for people like me who use and rely heavily on messaging apps. I use Kik and GTalk heavily and even setting the data sync at 5 minute increments is still annoying.
If you don't use your phone this way, then I would definitely recommend juice defender.
MORE SMOOTHNESS, MORE SPEED, LESS LAGS
you don't have to use Task Killer!
Try This: RAM Manager PRO OR RAM Manager FREE
The thread is here
My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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My built in task killer is being super aggressive recently. When I first had the phone, pressing the "Clear RAM" closed around 5-10 applications and left me with ~350-400MB of used RAM. I installed system tuner pro (which is now uninstalled), but ever since I had installed it, my task killer is now closing 20+ applications, and my used RAM is getting down to 200-250MB. I can never get it down to "0 applications closed" anymore and the lowest I got was "3 applications closed" over and over again.
Normally, I wouldn't really care so much, but what I'm getting annoyed with is that doing that seems to disable NoLED and I suspect it's messing with SetCPU. SetCPU shows 702/192 on the widget, which is what I had it set to, but if I open SetCPU, I see 1836/192 at the top, but the scrollers are still 702/192. Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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Did you set System Tuner Pro back to default before uninstalling?
How would i do that? I just reinstalled it and i dont see any options like that...
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Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
khaytsus said:
Seriously, how many times do people have to reiterate that task killers are NOT NEEDED?
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he's talking about the built in one
The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
lowspeed said:
The built in one doesn't auto kill. Or does it ?!
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No, it doesn't.
My problem is that the stock task manger kills my alarm clock & battery widget. Which I really need....
Ever since I have swtiched to Advanced Task Manger and I honestly love it over the stock one. I even set it to auto kill when I turn off the screen.
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he's talking about the built in one
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I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
khaytsus said:
I read the OP. My statement stands. Auto, built-in, or third party, task killers are more harm than good.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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And yet still remain necessary for malfunctioning apps or those that stay running even when you back out of them and consume way too many resources, harming your battery life. C:Geo is my example. It doesn't always shut down properly and likes to drain my battery when I'm not using it unless I force quit it.
Another good example: Voxer likes to get "stuck" almost constantly. Only way to fix it is by force quitting and starting it up again.
While I agree that users shutting down apps constantly with a task manager to clear RAM does more harm than good, they still have their purpose and are a handy thing to have on any phone OS.
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So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
FlukiestEmperor said:
So the answer to OP is then to stop hitting the "Clear Ram" button.
Honestly, What is the point of a phone having this much ram, if you aren't going to let apps use it?
When you hit the home button, what android does is save the current state of that app and lays it to rest in the ram. When you go back to that app, it will pull it from the ram and bring it back from that state.
The app is not running in the background unless it's intended too.
So johnus is right. If an app gets stuck, or it is using your cpu and there is no real way to close it, that's what an app killer is really meant for.
Case closed now?
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
jjc5891 said:
So I notice an issue with the task manager and you're basically suggesting I ignore it by not using very function I want to use?? That makes no sense and offers no solution to the problem whatsoever. I understand the concept of RAM and how it's used; I'm not new to this. The answer to my question is NOT to simply not use it
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Some people just think their logic is law and their needs are the same as everybody. I use task manager for several things. Many that the previous poster mentioned and others. I'm sorry open but I can offer no assistance as I've never wandered past the stock task manager. But I will follow this thread as I am interested in the functions you mentioned.
lowspeed said:
Well it is... Samsung goofed up by not letting you select items to ignore.
Just use something else if you must.
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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Well samsung goofed up with the black crush issue also, but that doesn't mean I should stop using youtube, netflix or viewing black photos on my phone. With that kind of logic, lets just tell every to just stop using their phones because bugs are always going to exist everywhere, but there's no reason to fix it, because no one will ever use an app that's not perfect...right?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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How about this... Instead of complaining here. Call samsung?
What do you want people to do ?
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If you're not going to help, then don't bother posting. Not everyone likes to ignore problems
Seeing as this is a developers forum, how about we all work together and find an actual solution to the problem, instead of these mickey mouse suggestions?
Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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Is there any way to prevent the phone from killing the browser?
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I am wondering this as well this phone just closes down all kinds of apps. I know android closes apps when it needs the space but this phones is constantly closing my apps I want to keep open.
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Having a really tough time here. I can switch from xda app to browser and back to xda and I have to scroll back to the EVO LTE forums. Annoying. I do hope a custom Rom can fix this. If this is my phone for the next two years as the EVO 4G was, then I need it to multitask.
On a side note, in settings> developer settings, what advantages does selecting At most 4 processes have over Standard limit? I wonder what the standard limit is. Though, from using either, I see no noticeable improvement over multitasking.
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Yeah, the multitasking is garbage. Screens re-fresh when you switch to them, losing your place or any work you've done. Quite annoying.
Does changing that to no limit help with it? You may have some apps auto starting and trying to push everything else out of memory. Also be sure that the "don't keep activities" box is not checked
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Does changing that to no limit help with it? You may have some apps auto starting and trying to push everything else out of memory. Also be sure that the "don't keep activities" box is not checked
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With 1gb of RAM, it shouln't matter.
As far as app/RAM management, I don't see a difference from EVO 4G with 512mb Oops did i say that o_o
I had a thread here about the problems multitasking. It was especially annoying with moving files in dropbox to the sd card. If you left the app it stopped exporting.
If you are rooted (and why wouldn't you be?) Someone in that thread was nice enough to share this, which hasn't solved all the problems but has helped significantly. I can now dropbox export and even play some games. It isn't perfect, but it is better. Plus I figure it is only a matter of time until the devs fix it for us anyway
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I had a thread here about the problems multitasking. It was especially annoying with moving files in dropbox to the sd card. If you left the app it stopped exporting.
If you are rooted (and why wouldn't you be?) Someone in that thread was nice enough to share this, which hasn't solved all the problems but has helped significantly. I can now dropbox export and even play some games. It isn't perfect, but it is better. Plus I figure it is only a matter of time until the devs fix it for us anyway
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Glad to know that helped you out lol
Yes, the multitasking is terrible on this phone. Nearly every app refreshes even if I leave it for only a few seconds.
Edit: as someone suggested in the linked thread above, I used Rom Toolbox Pro and set the auto memory manager preset to "mild." multitasking already seems so much better!
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Yes, the multitasking is terrible on this phone. Nearly every app refreshes even if I leave it for only a few seconds.
Edit: as someone suggested in the linked thread above, I used Rom Toolbox Pro and set the auto memory manager preset to "mild." multitasking already seems so much better!
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I have also been going nuts about this. I'm going to try this memory manager trick and will let you guys know how it works.
CM9 helps. Unfortunately as long as HTC says everything is working fine, this is probably our only real option.
At least it's working amazingly well.
I was wondering if I modified the Limit background processes setting (which is found under "settings > developer options", would it help or hurt anything? I am not sure how the different options may effect the regular performance/battery of the phone. Any insight would be great, thanks!
I limit mine to 4 cause I don't like having so many apps open. It seems that after a while or reboot it goes back to the default though.
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I limit mine to 4 cause I don't like having so many apps open. It seems that after a while or reboot it goes back to the default though.
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Yeah I do the same, but wondering if I I set it to 0 if that would cause any issues. I know when I clear RAM sometimes it would close up to 10+ or more and I'm confused as to why it had that many since I usually close everything and exit. Basically, I'm not sure what essential things may be running that this setting would effect?
No matter how many processes or apps you think you close by doing stock memory clean, they will come back shortly. The only way to make sure they stay innactive is to disabled them at start-up, just like in Windows or any Linux version. You choose which ones u want at start-up. I use Rom Toolbox by JRummy for that. You can easily control many things with that app. As for which ones are essential or not, it totally depends on what u do with the phone (ur personal use). Try and see what depends on what when u close things. That's the only way)) we all walk through that at some point!
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...good luck! Any questions, please ask, been dealing with android ever since it began)
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One more thing, don't be afraid shutting down apps at start-up, if something starts malfunctioning, u can always turn it back on.
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Also have autorun manager , Turning off the receivers.
Not an expert but similar to what he described.. I have not try his app
Did work for me,
Example:
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