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I'm sure this has been noticed and asked prior to this post. We all read the phenomenon in these threads and posts.
Question: Does it seem like some of the best Developers are leaving and moving their work to their own or core group based sites?
Why?
just concerned since I can count more than a few who've left, for whatever reason, in the last 6 months...
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Drama I guess. I'm kinda bummed that my old og Evo is more popular for development than my 3d. I thought most would move to the new phone.
It is what it is pimpin. Some leave and some stay. Our forum went through a crazy phase of children being stupid and a little growing pain. But I think we're mostly over that.
But your question has been asked countless times. A quick search would have brought you up to speed.
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It is what it is pimpin. Some leave and some stay. Our forum went through a crazy phase of children being stupid and a little growing pain. But I think we're mostly over that.
But your question has been asked countless times. A quick search would have brought you up to speed.
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Did quick search it. Seems to me that either you are in or not. With our phone being difficult to get the basics functional, the practice of running off the guys that move development forward is slowing progress to a crawl.
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Yeah, I feel ya man. Annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I know I personally stopped participating in getting on people who harass the devs or intentionally start drama because the mods say that it's not the communities job to do that. It's theirs. But, it is what it is. I'll still be on this phone until my contract is up. Which is a long time, so most of us aren't going anywhere.
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Yeah, I feel ya man. Annoys the hell out of me sometimes. I know I personally stopped participating in getting on people who harass the devs or intentionally start drama because the mods say that it's not the communities job to do that. It's theirs. But, it is what it is. I'll still be on this phone until my contract is up. Which is a long time, so most of us aren't going anywhere.
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Oohaylima, Haha. You said it, we ain't going anywhere....
It does totally suck.
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Its nice to see I am not the only one who is feeling the same way. The saddest thing is the only people truly hurt by this are the end users like us...
My guess is when they crack the hboot 1.5 and everyone is fully rooted there will be alot more roms and devs back on track..
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My guess is when they crack the hboot 1.5 and everyone is fully rooted there will be alot more roms and devs back on track..
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You are right on the money sir!
Developers leaving or moving
And also you have to add in the new toys that just came out better none as the one x one s one v alot of them ben tyed up developing for those phone's who can blame them the one x international version is one kick ass phone i placed my order today
jslim38 said:
And also you have to add in the new toys that just came out better none as the one x one s one v alot of them ben tyed up developing for those phone's who can blame them the one x international version is one kick ass phone i placed my order today
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y u bump 2 month old thread. Just like the Ancien Regime was inappropriate for its time, this thread is inappropriate for ours. Check the all new ics leak roms nao and u will see.
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Thats beside the point and FYI I'm fully aware of all ics releases old and new how many ics leaks can you get your hands on
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Better camera/Design/ Faster prossesor bigger battery life
Or....
More Dev support earlier ICS, Smaller, thinner, no HW Problems?
..... Let The Discussion BEGIN
Not again... Please
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Lol I wanna see a educated organized discussion
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Veras1996 said:
Lol I wanna see a educated organized discussion
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Amaze
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Veras1996 said:
Lol I wanna see a educated organized discussion
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Then you are in the wrong place!
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there are multiple threads exactly like this this topic has been discussed to death.
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Not again... Please
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seansk said:
there are multiple threads exactly like this this topic has been discussed to death.
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My thoughts exactly. This is what you get though with minimal development and lack of Moderator presence
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Considering you are in the Amaze section, Everyone is biased for the amaze.
The same thing would go for the sensation forums.
You'll never get a straight answer really, everyone is biased to a certain degree.
lock it up and use the search button
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Not again... Please
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So what if its been discussed before? Forum is lacking new threads, this gives us something to talk about.
Instead of *****ing, maybe you should get involve and contribute to the thread in a positive way. Criticize all you want, but at least ad something helpful. Just my 2 sense (get it, sense ;p).
I rather repeat myself then have nothing to talk about.
Anyways I say amaze, I;ve used both phones, I do like the extra devs in the sense but amaze is a solid phone!
what happens when you pick the sensation because of early ics and then when you get it ics just comes out for the amaze? what happens: you feel dumb.
no HW problems? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. that phone felt like it was about to break everytime I took the battery cover off.
edit: do you think I should sell my amaze for the g1 because it has better development and no HW issues? hmm
I didn't see a thread like this in the first pages, so I was like w.e lemme post a new one so people could share their opinion, I'm new here so please have mercy on my soul
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F9zSlavik said:
So what if its been discussed before? Forum is lacking new threads, this gives us something to talk about.
Instead of *****ing, maybe you should get involve and contribute to the thread in a positive way. Criticize all you want, but at least ad something helpful. Just my 2 sense (get it, sense ;p).
I rather repeat myself then have nothing to talk about.
Anyways I say amaze, I;ve used both phones, I do like the extra devs in the sense but amaze is a solid phone!
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Before calling me out buddy, I did contribute... See post #4.
Second, I will birch freely because most of us are getting sick of the same ass threads every week. Join Facebook if you want a social network. If you want answers, read the first rule of xda, watch the noob video, and do a search.
Instead of calling me out, call out the mods that made the rules. BTW, that lame ass "sense" pun has also run it's course... Nobody laughs at that any more. Get an original idea and get back to me
Edit: BTW, I was 1/3 ppl expressing same thoughts... Don't single me out
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Veras1996 said:
I didn't see a thread like this in the first pages, so I was like w.e lemme post a new one so people could share their opinion, I'm new here so please have mercy on my soul
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I tried but was baited by one of your supporters. I have nothing against u, was just saying these talks have came up before. Like u said, u searched the first few pages and took a shot. That's why I gave an answer in post 4.
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F9zSlavik said:
So what if its been discussed before? Forum is lacking new threads, this gives us something to talk about.
Instead of *****ing, maybe you should get involve and contribute to the thread in a positive way. Criticize all you want, but at least ad something helpful. Just my 2 sense (get it, sense ;p).
I rather repeat myself then have nothing to talk about.
Anyways I say amaze, I;ve used both phones, I do like the extra devs in the sense but amaze is a solid phone!
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cents. /10char
F9zSlavik said:
So what if its been discussed before? Forum is lacking new threads, this gives us something to talk about.
Instead of *****ing, maybe you should get involve and contribute to the thread in a positive way. Criticize all you want, but at least ad something helpful. Just my 2 sense (get it, sense ;p).
I rather repeat myself then have nothing to talk about.
Anyways I say amaze, I;ve used both phones, I do like the extra devs in the sense but amaze is a solid phone!
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what is the point of this discussion anyways? from the looks of it, doesn't seem like the op is opening this thread for any particular reason. He doesn't even specify if he is debating on whether to buy one or the other. seems like he got what he was looking for i guess a good flame war!!! lol
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what happens when you pick the sensation because of early ics and then when you get it ics just comes out for the amaze? what happens: you feel dumb.
no HW problems? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL. that phone felt like it was about to break everytime I took the battery cover off.
edit: do you think I should sell my amaze for the g1 because it has better development and no HW issues? hmm
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ive never had problems taking the back cover off my sensation, nor did i ever feel like it was going to break, its pretty damn sturdy, definitely more so than a sgs2...
however i was super afraid that one day i may drop my amaze and the screen would shatter to ****, after all the raised screen looks cool, but leaves it more exposed and vulnerable to cracking when dropped
and no i hate using cases with any of my phones, i just don't wanna add anymore bulk to an already big phone, and with the sensation i feel like if i accidentally drop it, it'll survive just fine, just like my old mt4g
and since the sensation has been out a lot longer than the amaze, it also means you can get it for a lot cheaper, having ics a little earlier is just a little plus lol
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ive never had problems taking the back cover off my sensation, nor did i ever feel like it was going to break, its pretty damn sturdy, definitely more so than a sgs2...
however i was super afraid that one day i may drop my amaze and the screen would shatter to ****, after all the raised screen looks cool, but leaves it more exposed and vulnerable to cracking when dropped
and no i hate using cases with any of my phones, i just don't wanna add anymore bulk to an already big phone, and with the sensation i feel like if i accidentally drop it, it'll survive just fine, just like my old mt4g
and since the sensation has been out a lot longer than the amaze, it also means you can get it for a lot cheaper, having ics a little earlier is just a little plus lol
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I guess it can go both ways. the screen on the amaze feels more vulnerable and the whole body of the sensation does.
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I guess it can go both ways. the screen on the amaze feels more vulnerable and the whole body of the sensation does.
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true, each phone has its quirks, but i still think you can't go wrong with either phone imo
I have the Amaze 4G for me the design of the htc sensation is better than the amaze, internals of the amaze, and to me the sensation has better battery life(i'm using the extended anker battery). I got the amaze and haven't looked back though
I guess, since the thread in the dev section is closed, we need one here where we can discuss, ask, etc. everything regarding the matter, till they open the other one back... Just saw that they have completed testing on Rezound, Vivid, Raider, Sensation, Amaze of course, and 1 or 2 more devices. This is going to be massive!
Hope after they rocked the forum, they would occasionally give us some updates on their progress, so many people are waiting for this...
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I guess, since the thread in the dev section is closed, we need one here where we can discuss, ask, etc. everything regarding the matter, till they open the other one back... Just saw that they have completed testing on Rezound, Vivid, Raider, Sensation, Amaze of course, and 1 or 2 more devices. This is going to be massive!
Hope after they rocked the forum, they would occasionally give us some updates on their progress, so many people are waiting for this...
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Check the OP of Fuses and Globaltrons thread... That's where ALL updates will be. Really, the only update needed is "hey, s=off script works safely and is now ready for release." They have given several updates for those that want to read the thread. What else do you really want? I mean, it will be released when it's released, and until then, we don't bug the OP about it, we don't post in their thread, and we just wait patiently. Idk why that's so hard for some people. I mean damn, they had to lock the thread. Smh. It sounds like you already know about the updates, since u just posted that they're waiting on just a couple more devices to work...
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No, I posted that testing has finished for all mentioned devices + 1 or 2 more, which names I just didnt recall. Also, this thread is for people who want to comment on s-off and everything about it, dont forget that the original s-off thread was closed because people just couldnt stop posting comments despite globatron's request. Thats the whole point here.
p.s. besides, they have the same thread in Rezound's General Forum because the real one in the dev section is closed as well. i dont see a reason why cant we have one here too... its not about patience, its just a forum, dude
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No, I posted that testing has finished for all mentioned devices + 1 or 2 more, which names I just didnt recall. Also, this thread is for people who want to comment on s-off and everything about it, dont forget that the original s-off thread was closed because people just couldnt stop posting comments despite globatron's request. Thats the whole point here.
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Yeah I posted a thread like this too... It was deleted by the Mods...
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Well, if they have such threads in other forums, we should have one too, otherwise where would we discuss it? in the original s-off thread? well, some people tried and mods got pissed
What is there to discuss? S-Off will be released when they are ready, and even then, it doesn't mean much for people who aren't devs. Am I missing something here?
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What is there to discuss? S-Off will be released when they are ready, and even then, it doesn't mean much for people who aren't devs. Am I missing something here?
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So if you have nothing to discuss don't come here. Other's may wish to chat about it. That's what forums are for. Let those who want to chat about it do so here.
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So if you have nothing to discuss don't come here. Other's may wish to chat about it. That's what forums are for. Let those who want to chat about it do so here.
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+1...So much negativity on these forums
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marleyfan61 said:
So if you have nothing to discuss don't come here. Other's may wish to chat about it. That's what forums are for. Let those who want to chat about it do so here.
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Did I say I had nothing to discuss? No one answered me when I asked if I was missing something about S-Off for us non-devs, so is there actually anything to discuss? Am I not letting anyone chat about it in this thread? Last time I checked, I'm not a mod and I didn't lock down this thread.
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Did I say I had nothing to discuss? No one answered me when I asked if I was missing something about S-Off for us non-devs, so is there actually anything to discuss? Am I not letting anyone chat about it in this thread? Last time I checked, I'm not a mod and I didn't lock down this thread.
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Are you serious? Why would I even pay attention to your trolling? Perhaps people in the Rezound forum have nothing to discuss either, they just hit 340+ comments in 5 days, cuz just have some time to waste. If the original s-off thread here was opened, Im sure it wouldve had 10 extra pages after globatron's request, but if its a separate thread then "yeah, what's in there to discuss"? Well, Im not a kindergarten teacher and wont explain the same thing over and over...
Ok children, lets all take a deep breathe
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Great discussion...a discussion about whether or not to have a discussion and how to breathe.
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Great discussion...a discussion about whether or not to have a discussion and how to breathe.
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AKA "pointless *****ing" lol
but yes, s=off will be a good addition for those whom like to make there phone 100% customizable. (boot logos, hboots, radios, etc....)
So we have S-Off now. Therefore, there are no excuses not to be supported in Cyanogen minus the source code and Offical OTA of the ICS update. Am I correct? Miui, Cyanogen, and AOSP/AOKP . I hope the ball starts rolling because I'm estatic!!! Post in and tell me the truth and your opinion.
The ball has been rolling. S-Off has nothing to do with AOSP/AOKP. DMeadows and I'm sure others has been working on a Cyanogenmod port for some time now. Protekk recently joined the quest as well. Read up in the dev section
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So we have S-Off now. Therefore, there are no excuses not to be supported in Cyanogen minus the source code and Offical OTA of the ICS update. Am I correct? Miui, Cyanogen, and AOSP/AOKP . I hope the ball starts rolling because I'm estatic!!! Post in and tell me the truth and your opinion.
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s-off doesn't mean AOSP, MIUI, etc.
As stated about a thousand times before the RIL, which is what is holding us back, is not going to be any easier to get with s-off.
EDIT: Damnit, got Ninja'd
why do people keep saying that s-off gets us asop? Who started that rumor lol!
S-Off = Hboot fully unlocked.
Aosp/Aokp = RIL source needed, not S-Off.
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why do people keep saying that s-off gets us asop? Who started that rummer lol!
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*Rumor
I thought s-off installed aosp+ and the ril-amajigger.
I kid.
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Where's markus?
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Where's markus?
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He disappeared as soon as the 2 things he was complaining about not having were actually happening,coincidence? I think not
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He disappeared as soon as the 2 things he was complaining about not having were actually happening,coincidence? I think not
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pretty sure he was forced into the rezound witness protection program and is under a new assumed alias, lol
*sigh*
I think my question may have been worded incompletely/wrong. What I'm asking is, since we have S-Off, won't people like cyanogen be MORE likely to support us since you wont have to flash hboots and what have you to change roms and radios and such? I understood the whole RIL problem holding AOSP back a long time ago. I'm talking about "Official" support.
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I think my question may have been worded incompletely/wrong. What I'm asking is, since we have S-Off, won't people like cyanogen be MORE likely to support us since you wont have to flash hboots and what have you to change roms and radios and such? I understood the whole RIL problem holding AOSP back a long time ago. I'm talking about "Official" support.
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Its Def not going to hurt $50 phone and now S-OFF should bring a few developers.
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By the way... please save all the comments trying to make it seem as though I never read this forum. I do. I'm not a developer and I only understand so much of what it means to achieve things. I'm new to HTC. Motorola was much simplier to flash things, so this dev unlock and s-off stuff is all new to me. Do I get it? yes. Has it taken a while? Yes. Do I understand why the RIL is the bottleneck... only that I know whats needed to fix it is in the offical source that we don't currently have so it can have the right files and commands. So seriously, please stop the *sigh*, "We've covered this one thousand million times", "Omg not this again" comments. I'm a mature adult. I'd like to talk to some who are also.
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im sure he made a new account and is still among us
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By the way... please save all the comments trying to make it seem as though I never read this forum. I do. I'm not a developer and I only understand so much of what it means to achieve things. I'm new to HTC. Motorola was much simplier to flash things, so this dev unlock and s-off stuff is all new to me. Do I get it? yes. Has it taken a while? Yes. Do I understand why the RIL is the bottleneck... only that I know whats needed to fix it is in the offical source that we don't currently have so it can have the right files and commands. So seriously, please stop the *sigh*, "We've covered this one thousand million times", "Omg not this again" comments. I'm a mature adult. I'd like to talk to some who are also.
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what do you expect from us when someone with 8 posts, asks a question incorrectly? We can't guess what you intended to say, and we had every right to be annoyed with what you posted as your original post has been asked "about a million times."
I also take personal insult from the fact you are referring to me as immature as you tried to quote me there, when you are the one who can't even articulate a question to ask what you "claim" you intended to say.
Good day!
I don't think the s off is going to bring any devs that wouldn't have taken on the project while it was s on. Most of the devs who walked away from the rezound early on did so because early on the user base was rude, demanding, appreciative, and many were unintelligent and appreciative.
It has improved, there's a lot of really respectful and brilliant rezound users, and there's a lot of great devs among us, but as a whole, maybe due to the marketing of such nice hardware being based on "beats" there's still a lot of drama and unneeded crap being stirred up by a few bad apples.
The aosp ball started rolling last week again with protekk deciding to take on RIL, and others will also contribute to the effort.
S-off is greatly appreciated by me and a huge help to the community as a whole. But it's definitely not what was holding up AOSP in my opinion. I don't know any devs who would be asked to help out on the RIL by a friend of theirs and would say "no way I'm touching that because that phone is s on with an oem unlocked bootloader.
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Not to be pessimistic, but do you mean unappreciative?
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Seems protekk is hard at work for us according to his twitter.
Nosympathy: Please do not take it as a personal insult. I do appreciate all the devs on here and I know that there are surely some who are not mentioned anywhere on the the forum who deserve praise. My problem is that there is no reason to post if all you're going to do is put down the question. If you have a problem answering the question... just don't answer it. A non constructive answer... is no answer at all. I've read thread after thread where unknowing people ask questions about things that only people who read this forum constantly know. Is the information somewhere in the depths of this forum... yeah I'm sure its tucked away somewhere, but you know what? Sometimes its just easier to ask, so please don't take it personal, just let someone else answer if you don't want to answer it. I'm not referring to any particular person. Quite honestly, I'm tired of seeing threads where 3/4 of the posts are this nonsense bashing people about something already posted somewhere else. Isn't that what the moderators are for? Yeah. I'm not gonna sit here and get flamed for an honest question, and getting your panties in a wad because you don't like me quoting you in response to your reply that didn't help anything at all...
I do appreciate ALL whom have made even the slightest contribution to this phone. However, it doesn't make you mightier than God, nor does it give you a right to blow smoke over everyone.
As you all know I hit the game late, but even tho I think we will crack this baby in the near future I would still like to get a head start so if anyone has a unlocked 4G that they want to donate are make a deal let me know in pm... O have a loaded rom that I would like to put out bit o won't until o can test it and such... If there are any takers shoot me a message and ill get the ball rolling
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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root will come, same thing happened with the Rezound, htcdev worked at first (unofficially) then months later it was back officially.
same will happen with this phone IMO, AND S-OFF is being worked on already, the Rez took 6 months before S-OFF had interest
Newts Rez bricked from what he told me
I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
Man newt.. they must be rough on you bud.
Hope it gets better, sad to hear people are being an asshole to a good developer. I'd be happy to see you on the OG Incredible again or the Nexus!
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I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
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i didn't see anything like that, ????? i think people are getting antsy waiting for something, i'd just ignore it.who cares what they say!
I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I've been doing this along time and I know about trolls trust me, but I want whoever has the problem to speak up but they prob wont
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Can we just agree to ignore it? Drama comes in many forms.
I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I have never and will never rate a thread. Either it applies to you or it doesn't. If I have a problem with what's going on in the thread, I'll address it with the problem poster.
It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I hope someone comes through with a development phone for you... PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!! We certainly need all the help we can get! I
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It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I don't even own this phone, I'm still on a Dinc, however I just voted the thread 5 stars, does it impact the difference of you dev for this phone or getting a used phone to dev on, it probably won't or shouldn't. I also sent the email, about the bootloader, and I spoke with VZ exceutive office about the locked bootloader, is that going to make a difference to VZ on unlocking it, probably not, but I did it for the group cause, because I would like to get this phone.
Honestly, it's guys that have the time and talent like yourself and other dev's that help make these phones what they are, if you aren't interested in this device, that's your decision too but I think 99.9% of us don't have the knowledge you do on these phones, so we greatly value your work, and would like to see you and others help us out, while we try to do what we can to help out.
I don't know what happened to the REZ forum, but I've heard it was a bunch of BS Drama, that I've never seen on the Dinc forum, maybe your burnt from that experience, don't know, but I wouldn't let a thread vote sway your opinion on this group here.
thankfully newt has an Inc4 and will be up and going once root comes.
Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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dbrits said:
Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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I second that! :good:
blazingwolf said:
I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I've been here for 4 years or so, and up until this thread never bothered to notice the threads had ratings. Now that I am aware of the ratings, I will continue to ignore them.
I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
hasoon2000 said:
I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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you the man hasoon, GOOD LUCK