As you know our phone uses the Adreno 220 in the Snapdragon 3 processor. Here are the real benchmarks not that quadrant crap.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/2
May favorite link below has several true test and compares all dual core chips:
http://www.droidgamers.com/index.ph...1661-dual-core-beasts-the-decision-to-buy-one
Also its the same chip though it say 1.5ghz don't know why htc lowered it but once we get root I'm sure we will clock it right back up.
Nice. Everyone keep kissing Tegras ass like it's king of the hill. It's nice to see some benches and a good article.
Thanks.
That's written by me, Also i am getting Evo 3D In first weeks of july
Love the second article. Really shows what power lays under to hood in this phone. I have been saying all along that this phone is possibly the most powerful phone out....but everyone else always says yes but look at SGSII quadrant!
For quadrant to be trusted it needs a mayor overhaul. And benchmarks are dor the e-penis bragging. Its all about RL performance. Anyways those results looks promising for us!.
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'faster' at this point it the development of the mobile gpu space is kind of a weird statement.
I'm waiting to see who cleans up in mobile gaming, because historically Microsoft has been the company that figured it out (directx). Dx allowed ATI/NVIDIA to have pretty deep systematic differences in execution strategy, but with the same end calculus.
Wouldnt be surprised if it ends the same way honestly. Google needs to roid out their gaming APIs so game devs don't have to spend more of their time in multi-device debug mode.
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I found it interesting that the iPhone 3GS beat out the iPhone 4. Not sure if the testing is all that accurate. But I don't need stats and benchmarks to tell me that my EVO 3D is faster than the G2x or the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (after owning both).
I think HTC reduced the chip speed in favor of battery life.
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This is very helpful. I even saved the bookmark in case I have to shove it down somebody throat for future flamming! ;-)
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
Iphone4's score was due to the retina display. You know how some people claim that the display should not effect the score of the device in benchmarks, hen concerning the 3vo? Well the iphone4 seems to demonstrate otherwise. We all know that the iphone4 is an impressive gaming device.
What is vsync? I noticed there are 2 different results with it on and off.
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What is vsync? I noticed there are 2 different results with it on and off.
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I can't tell you exactly what it is but it's definitely GPU related. I've heard it many times about video games. Supposedly, if a game is not vsynced properly, it causes screen tear during the game. That's as much as I know
V SYNC (vertical sync) limits the framerate to match the display, so if your display will only do 60fps it will limit it to that
Good read. http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=928593
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But I don't need stats and benchmarks to tell me that my EVO 3D is faster than the G2x
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Well the g2x was fast. Is fast. But that's because of vanilla.
But I agree the EVO3D is wayyyyy better.
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Iphone4's score was due to the retina display. You know how some people claim that the display should not effect the score of the device in benchmarks, hen concerning the 3vo? Well the iphone4 seems to demonstrate otherwise. We all know that the iphone4 is an impressive gaming device.
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Yeah, I forgot about the iPhone 4's screen resolution. I have the iPad 2 and I am amazed buy it's gaming capabilities. I tried many Droid tabs but my $500 seemed happiest with the iPad 2. But phone wise I'll keep my EVO 3D. My favorite phone since the razr days - never knew why people were so EVO crazy until now.
Smartphone lineage:
Palm Treo (win & palm), HTC Tytn, Nokia n95, iPhone, G1, iPhone 3g, iPhone 3GS, mytouch 3G, mytouch 4G, Galaxy Vibrant, HTC hd2, G2, g2x, MOTO defy, EVO 3D.
I'm sure I have forgotten a few.
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I saw a YouTube video where the galaxy s 2 scored almost 3100 but of course touch wiz is pretty much aosp. The quadrant test was against the sensation and it scored about a 2000 but I'm sure thats because of sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6sPTcFpAc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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That's written by me, Also i am getting Evo 3D In first weeks of july
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Thats awesome news, you did some great work with the hd2. I used your unofficial build as my daily. You going to dev with the e3d?
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Almost every benchmark will favor one chip or the other. None of them are truly unbiased.
As far as the performance of this phone vs my previous ns4g and epic. I'm not disapointed. I rarely if ever encounter any lag on anything in the UI, and everything opens in a snap. I can't complain at all with any UI element performance.
Most games I get to run perform at least as well as my hummingbird powered phones, However I do have issues with random games crashing and not working. Sure, the GPU is more powerful, but if it wont play 1/2 the games then the power is wasted.
I want to clarify that I really enjoy this phone, and the gpu issue is one I will be able to just deal with.
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Almost every benchmark will favor one chip or the other. None of them are truly unbiased.
As far as the performance of this phone vs my previous ns4g and epic. I'm not disapointed. I rarely if ever encounter any lag on anything in the UI, and everything opens in a snap. I can't complain at all with any UI element performance.
Most games I get to run perform at least as well as my hummingbird powered phones, However I do have issues with random games crashing and not working. Sure, the GPU is more powerful, but if it wont play 1/2 the games then the power is wasted.
I want to clarify that I really enjoy this phone, and the gpu issue is one I will be able to just deal with.
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It's not the gpu its the Unity Engine. Check out these links. If you notice also no games lag just a random crash. It's a new gpu sometimes these things happen has nothing to do with its power.
http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/94...ation-Battleheart-Trial-Extreme-and-Samurai-2
http://androidforums.com/android-games/364036-unity3d-games-dont-work-adreno-220-a.html
Btw several dev told me Unity is working on it. I was also the one to figure out it was there engine. Most developers use it to do a quick iPhone to android port but they have to pay Unity of course but it makes relatively painless for them to port. But if something goes wrong with the Engine on a device pretty much every game will be affected and developer can't do anything about it because Unity did all the real work so they can't fix the coding.
Forgot... We have same chips as Sensation right?
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Forgot... We have same chips as Sensation right?
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Yeah that's right.
Related
Hey I figured after all the negative commentary about the 3vo I would take a drive over to t mo and take a spin on the newly launched sensation..the sibling of the 3d..I for one was impressed..the screen looked great..the camera was very nice and one thing I noticed was it as buttery smooth.. scrolling was great..it loaded sites quickly and I enjoyed the new "thinner" form factor..for those who are wondering I do believe its worth an upgrade..I didn't like my phone as much after playing with it..so i know its a different phone but turn the evos 3d off and you basically have a sensation with more RAM and diff camera..don't let the negative reviews throw u off...I think its funny how reviewers are like "its a relatively powerful phone" what? Name a phone on the us market that's more powerful..guess what the gs2 isn't here yet and I think when it does drop it won't be the holy grail everyone thinks..
Stay strong evo lovers.. / rant
Check the new android central hands-on. He says the Evo 3d is a lot smoother than the sensation. Also he said after using the 3d he went back to use the sensation and was disappointed at the sensation's performance compared to the 3d
That would be great! See I dunno why all the negative reviews...being slammed for an extra feature (3d) shouldn't make reviewers act like its less than an echo
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That would be great! See I dunno why all the negative reviews...being slammed for an extra feature (3d) shouldn't make reviewers act like its less than an echo
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I see these reviews like I see Movie Reviews, they are not the users and I could care less about what they think. I can't count the number of movies I have enjoyed that got bad reviews.
Man all these bad reviewers are trying to protect the beloved iCrap. They won't even acknowledge iCloud and the notification feature in iOS 5 are Android ripoffs, fack them!
I played with the sesenation and it was awasome if the 3d is faster then its going to be crazy
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well part of the problem that we will see with reviews of this device are going to be because of the 3d.. you either like 3d or you dont.. almost every negative comment that i have read has just been about the 3d portion.. so like it has been said it will basically be like with movies, just because 1 reviewer doesnt like 3d they are going to rate it like crap..
i personally am not into this device for the 3d, i have been waiting on a dual-core.. the 3d will be fun to play with potentially and dev for eventually..
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Man all these bad reviewers are trying to protect the beloved iCrap. They won't even acknowledge iCloud and the notification feature in iOS 5 are Android ripoffs, fack them!
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People keep saying this, but why did the SGS2 get such high reviews if thats the case? Its time for folks to realize that not everything negative that was said about the phone is "hate." The screen and viewing angles definitely looked terrible compared to the GS2 as well as the web browsing and the pics. 3 out of the 5 reviewers complained about the call quality/volume. I mean is all of this a "coincidence?"
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People keep saying this, but why did the SGS2 get such high reviews if thats the case? Its time for folks to realize that not everything negative that was said about the phone is "hate." The screen and viewing angles definitely looked terrible compared to the GS2 as well as the web browsing and the pics. 3 out of the 5 reviewers complained about the call quality/volume. I mean is all of this a "coincidence?"
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Speaking of which, here is a good comparison of the Sensation and the SGS2, a very real world comparison. Warning, its very long.
http://www.smartphonegurus.com/forums/topic/13554-mega-review-htc-sensation-v-samsung-galaxy-sii/
The only negatives the phone is receiving is those that pertain to the 3D screen which, as most of us know, can be disabled. I think they are bashing it just because its first, and will be judging its performance for myself on the 24th.
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Speaking of which, here is a good comparison of the Sensation and the SGS2, a very real world comparison. Warning, its very long.
http://www.smartphonegurus.com/forums/topic/13554-mega-review-htc-sensation-v-samsung-galaxy-sii/
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Thanks for that link as well
thanks for that link and that review was most excellent. I think this gives us a window into the Evo 3d's abilities and performance. Got mine pre-ordered and ready to go.
God I love my Evo and will hate to see it go but her big sister is sexier....lol
My roommate just got his Sensation yesterday. Nice handset! I don't like the rounded off shape of it though, but overall seems pretty nice. I was a little surprised on the lag it sometimes has just flicking around Sense. 1080p video recording on it is quite nice and the playback of what you recorded is awesome looking. I can't wait for my 3D, and I can't wait for the first opportunity to strip it of Sense as well. Even 3.0 doesn't attract me at all. AOSP all the way.
so the Sensation can record 1080p 2d but the Evo3d can't? yeah I think there will be an update that will let the evo3d record 1080p video
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so the Sensation can record 1080p 2d but the Evo3d can't? yeah I think there will be an update that will let the evo3d record 1080p video
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Agreed, it would be silly not to include it at some point lol
Lag when browsing, waiting on everything to load, pinch to zoom is not smooth but choppy, hitting a text field requires me to wait 2 seconds before the keyboard comes up...
i need to wait bloody everywhere?
is there something that can fix this?
i already installed a faster rom and im rooted.
and besides the complaints about the gps, my gps is instant. no need to wait here luckily. also no complains about the 3d screen or whatever hardware.
the battery could be alot better though.
Probably the rom(s) you're using.
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Why don't u get another phone?
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No lag here. Flash a Custom ROM. I didnt have lag running stock unrooted with sense either..
+1... No lag here.
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Lag when browsing, waiting on everything to load, pinch to zoom is not smooth but choppy, hitting a text field requires me to wait 2 seconds before the keyboard comes up...
i need to wait bloody everywhere?
is there something that can fix this?
i already installed a faster rom and im rooted.
and besides the complaints about the gps, my gps is instant. no need to wait here luckily. also no complains about the 3d screen or whatever hardware.
the battery could be alot better though.
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you must have something bogging your phone down. Ive never had any of those problems. Theres never any lag on this thing. The scrolling could be smoother of course, but thats one of the trade-offs having a phone with sense on it
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Why don't u get another phone?
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nothing will ever beat my iphone 4. i already seen that.
but i want something besides my iphone 4. i love the 3d capabilities of the evo 3d.
Maybe il wait for a senseless rom...i love sense but i HATE waiting.
on my iphone 4 everything's smooth. no lag anywhere, no waiting anywhere.
And no im not a fanboy of apple, im a fanboy of the best phone. and even with its lower specs i have the feeling my iphone 4 runs a 4ghz dual core compared with my evo 3d
to bad there are only 2 roms available for the evo 3d gsm
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nothing will ever beat my iphone 4. i already seen that.
but i want something besides my iphone 4. i love the 3d capabilities of the evo 3d.
Maybe il wait for a senseless rom...i love sense but i HATE waiting.
on my iphone 4 everything's smooth. no lag anywhere, no waiting anywhere.
And no im not a fanboy of apple, im a fanboy of the best phone. and even with its lower specs i have the feeling my iphone 4 runs a 4ghz dual core compared with my evo 3d
to bad there are only 2 roms available for the evo 3d gsm
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iOS is just a simpler and more clean operating system. My EVO 3D is also laggy, disappointing for a dual core processor. I usually tether and use my iPod touch which surprisingly runs faster and smoother than my EVO 3D. And yes I am running custom ROM's and overclocked and nothing is more laggy than web browsing, even on WiFi. Scrolling is so choppy... I am not a fanboy of either operating system. I like things about both OS and both need things improved on, but for now iOS just seems to run better in terms of CPU optimization.
Why dont you use your iPad to mop up your leaking vaj its leaked all over this damn page. On a more serious note you obviously are
A) a Trollolololololo
B) a Retard
C) a Retard with a defective evo 3d
D) a Retard who installed retarded bs apps with ****ty coding eating up resources
E) all of the above
PS your iPad can also be used to clean up your face after Steve BlowJobs is done with you.
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Why dont you use your iPad to mop up your leaking vaj its leaked all over this damn page. On a more serious note you obviously are
A) a Trollolololololo
B) a Retard
C) a Retard with a defective evo 3d
D) a Retard who installed retarded bs apps with ****ty coding eating up resources
E) all of the above
PS your iPad can also be used to clean up your face after Steve BlowJobs is done with you.
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LMFAO!!!
10char
Im pretty sure a EVO 3D has more things going on in it that any iphone, hence it not being "super fast". I just think you should know how to troubleshoot your phone at least if you are gonna have a Android. And are you getting the laggyness after a fresh ROM flash? Or are you throwing about 1231231423 apps in there and expecting it to not slow down? Give us more input so we can help you
Why do people get so offended why they point out a possible flaw with their phone and suggest an alternative? Isn't that how great things are created? Some people act like you just smacked their first born child in the face. Get over yourselves, its a phone. Most people that talk bad about iOS usually have never used any apple product and are just jumping on the Android v Apple bandwagon. I love Android, and I also love Apple. I am not a close-minded idiot that can't think for his own so I decide to be on one side of the fence on this whole apple v android issue. Again, I love android, but apple has figured out how to make more, with less power and in my personal opinion, is still slightly superior.
yea people get real butt hurt. but i dont bother commenting about that.
this article explains it pretty good
http://arstechnica.com/science/news...f-favorite-brands-as-threat-to-self-image.ars
No what we are telling you is that we are all running an Evo 3d and do not have the described lag. If you apply LOGIC you should not have lag either unless something is different i.e. your teeny brain. Your iPhone will get better reception if you drop it in a toilet preferably one with a fresh double S in it.
The galaxy nexus is getting a very old powervr sgx 540 gpu, all htc's phones cant run a decent game smoothly, not to mention motorola's phones.
Nvidia is not really serios about it's gpu's, i feel that even the kal-el is going to be a failure.
Not to mention qualcomm or any other chip manufacturers.
what really bothers me is that if i want the most recent gaming i have to buy an apple device, iphone/ipad and im really not going to trade android for ios.
the powervr 543mp2 outclassed every gpu and will be better than the upcoming gpus.
And just before a new and better gpu is released, apple will build the a6 architecture including a new powervr chip with better graphics for at least a year.
Can anybody explain this situation?
Doesn't bother me one bit, the GPU could go to better use eg rendering the launcher and aiding with video playback, but as for gaming I couldn't care less, have my PSP and PC for that.
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Bro.. galaxy nexus using powervr540 with 384mhz clock! Normal device using 200mhz. If you overclock your graphic, the max it can go is 240mhz.
HTC normally using Qualcomm with adreno gpu. That's why it is slow. A galaxy nexus s using arm (optimize for battery with full speed) and powervr.
If a developer develop a game only for superhigh end devices, I don't think he will gain income. No one is going to play the super high end game that only applicable in dual core device.
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thats not true, most developers will develope it for the ipad and then port it over to android, while it still stuttering as hell, or decrease the quality of the textures.
its true that the powervr540 is now clocked at 380mhz but you forgot that it has so much more pixels to render, so its actually the same thing.
i still cant understand why i dont get to choose to have the best gpu with android, why is only apple buying the best gpus in the market? are the other manufacturers stupid or they just want us to replace our phones faster?
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just to prove my thoughts about the galaxy nexus:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....Samsung GT-i9100 Galaxy S2&D4=Apple iPhone 4S
I suppose apple are lucky they,ve only 1 os to push out to the 3 items, and apple are just 1 company, is it maybe the gpu makers respect apple more, as for android, u hav so many phones, so many companies, so maybe that amounts to less quality, i own a htc desire and a asus tf, the games i hav on my transformer are amazing, so if its not running to its full capacity, then im scared to think how much better it could be, tho didnt they say ics will take advantage of the gpu.
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umm doesnt Samsung make Apples chips?
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umm doesnt Samsung make Apples chips?
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Yes, and Apple was stupid enough to try to sue them.
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Yes, and Apple was stupid enough to try to sue them.
Posted or Swyped from either my SGS or Optimus T
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I swear the Captivates GPU is one of the most powerful ones out there.! i love it
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I suppose apple are lucky they,ve only 1 os to push out to the 3 items, and apple are just 1 company, is it maybe the gpu makers respect apple more, as for android, u hav so many phones, so many companies, so maybe that amounts to less quality, i own a htc desire and a asus tf, the games i hav on my transformer are amazing, so if its not running to its full capacity, then im scared to think how much better it could be, tho didnt they say ics will take advantage of the gpu.
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"If it's not running to ots full capacity"?
Its not getting 1/3 of what the ipad 2 gets, not only with fps, but with the quality of the texures and more.
I see that you've never seen a game running on the ipad.
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"If it's not running to ots full capacity"?
Its not getting 1/3 of what the ipad 2 gets, not only with fps, but with the quality of the texures and more.
I see that you've never seen a game running on the ipad.
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You should go back to apple if you are interested in it. What iPhone can play = what we can play.
What ipad can play = what we can play.
But what we can play, ipad can't play. We can play playstation game on android, but apple can't.
And pure Google phone is different from dirty Google phone. You should find out more on pure Google phone that FULLY optimize for ICS or Google Rom
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Your right and i dont want too either, i love android and dont want to pay over the odds just for a silly apple logo, my days off being cool are over, i,d much rather pay 500 less for something that does as just a good job, forget apple, android is grounfbreaking and kicking apples ass, and they dont like it
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Not true Motorola have plenty of android powerful with powervrchip .Droid 1, 530 Droid 2, Droid x and droid 2 global. All 3 had 535 same as iphone 4. Droid 3 which was first arm 9 and powervr chip @540. Droid x2 and atrix runs tegra 2. It depends on your taste. Samsung only have galaxy s and galaxy s2 as it gaming phone.
Droid 1 was the first gaming device and powervrchip 530/arm8 on android to compete with the iphone in 2009. First to be overclock to 1ghz speed in feb 2010 and first 1.4ghz speed in July 2010. Beside Nexus One having 1ghz speed as default. Fyi my htc g2 doesnt lag on gaming i think sense ui, make the lag on the os. As my phone near pure google.
Dont forget Sony have its Xperia Play run adreno 205 like on my htc g2 , phone with adreno will as fast as manufacture or you mod want it to be.
Wow,in 2011 there were only crap gpus compared to today's mali t604 and powervr SGX 544mp3...
Android gaming evolved incredibly fast past year.
According to Gizmodo in their HTC One X review, the phone had issues playing 3D games. They specifically mentioned Temple Run, and the phone not picking up certain inputs due to the CPU being overloaded or something. Sounds iffy to me, so I'm seeing if anyone is able to replicate this kind of thing with the LTEVO, thanks!
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According to Gizmodo in their HTC One X review, the phone had issues playing 3D games. They specifically mentioned Temple Run, and the phone not picking up certain inputs due to the CPU being overloaded or something. Sounds iffy to me, so I'm seeing if anyone is able to replicate this kind of thing with the LTEVO, thanks!
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When playing Temple Run, I notice an occasional blip where it hesitates for just a moment. Enough to make you smash into a tree though if you're not careful. Doesn't happen often thought, and I can't find a pattern of when it happens.
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Playing Stair Dismount on mine there is a lot of slowdown
Def not bc of lack of power I'm sure they just need to be optimized for the EVO..
If you think about it, there are only three Android phones with HD screens on the market right now. Most games are probably not yet optimized for that resolution as well. Even Apple doesn't have HD screens in their phones yet. Handset HD rendering is a rather novel feature.
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Both dead space and mass effect (EA)
fc on my phone after intro splash screens.
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I remember when I bought the OG Evo, it seemed to everyone like it was underperforming in the game department. People said it would be fixed with updates and it didn't work because of this or that, but eventually we just realized the hardware wasn't up to snuff. I don't want to make the same mistake with my next purchase, so how bad is it really? Are there any high-end games that run perfectly? How does shadowgun play?
I've played all those games on my 3d ..and they played great..so with a greatly improved CPU and a oc-d gpu its def not hardware ...the s4 is top notch..and ur not go.na have too choice since almost all high end phones coming to the US will utilize the s4
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I've played all those games on my 3d ..and they played great..so with a greatly improved CPU and a oc-d gpu its def not hardware ...the s4 is top notch..and ur not go.na have too choice since almost all high end phones coming to the US will utilize the s4
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I agree but something is wrong I am having small issues with many games that ran fine on the 3d and OG. For instance just downloaded Nba Jam tonight and it studders and lags the whole time un playable. This game was running pretty good on my EVO last week.
So I agree it is not the hardware but something needs fixed. Sounds like the HD screen issue may be to blame
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I'm.having similar issues mostly with sound etc..but it will be fixed..eventually
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So I agree it is not the hardware but something needs fixed. Sounds like the HD screen issue may be to blame
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Any mention of this in the GNexus or Rezound forums?
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Any mention of this in the GNexus or Rezound forums?
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I will go check it out. I am not saying that it is the issue but someone mentioned it and it sounds possible that these may not be optimized for our screen yet I know when qhd was first hitting the market some apps had trouble with it. It has to be something though because there is no way this hardware cannot run apps that ran fine on my OG it just doesn't add up.
Any one get Demolition Inc working on this thing yet?
Shadowrun plays nice and smooth no issues with that game.
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Possible Fix
I don't have the 4g LTE yet I am a current 3D owner. Am trying to decide between GNex and LTEvo but that's another topic...
From what I've read somewhere else (can't quote where from) the fix was to bump your minimum cpu speeds up a notch and will probably fix most/all your lag. Use Antutu or other choice program (rooted only of course) and bump your min clock speed up one or two spots and I bet you don't run into issues.
If this doesn't work then ignore...thanks!
Shadowrun plays really smooth, and I'm amazed with the graphics. Looks sweet!
I was hoping this phone would game better than my gnex but so far it's not doing what I had hoped for. GTA3 has awful audio quality and I have to turn the settings down to low and lower res and other settings to get it to play lag free. I don't think it's any better than my gnex was. I am hoping the game needs an update.
Well I'm disappointed that a lot of the best looking 3D games do not work.
Not Working:
All Gameloft games EXCEPT Order & Chaos (but it still crashes some)
Even the brand new N.O.V.A. 3 doesn't work
Mass Effect Infiltrator
Dead Space
Field Runners
Working:
GTA III
Shadowgun
Minecraft
Deer Hunter Reloaded
Galaxy on Fire 2
Gentlemen, the phone has not even officially been launched yet.
Once game devs figure it out the games will run fine on our hardware. It is fact that our phones are more powerful than the 3D or the Gnex so it just needs to be optimized. On top of that, imagine how our phones will fly on a nice aosp Rom...
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I just wanted to get some input about what everyone thinks about the 3rd party development concerning these two phones. I currently have, and still love, my original Evo 4g. I have it rooted with CM7 installed.
I'm on Sprint, and I love being able to use the free wifi hotspot built into CM7 without paying a ton of money to sprint. I like having emulators and playing all my old favorite games on the TV.
The difference in the screens doesn't bother me much, but I figured the extra power of the GS3 would be very beneficial with the way I use the phone. On the other hand, I've heard custom mods and development aren't near as good with the GS3.
So the main question:
Should I go for the raw power of the GS3, or the more modding and developer friendly LTEVo? I really don't want to lose my free wifi hotspot... I use it all the time and I'm not sure if I can get it with the GS3.
The free hot spot you can get when you root with any phone, so that's a non issue.
My understanding is the phones are about the same, the galaxy has more RAM it seems, but the processor is about the same. You should consider build.quality. do you like how the EVO looks and feels or the Sammy? I don't like the plastic feel of the Samsung phones myself. It's a personal choice.
Also the front buttons on the galaxy are ugly, and u like dedicated camera button on the EVO. And kickstand.
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You said a bunch of nothing. Also what makes you think the GS3 has more "raw power"? They both have the same chip.
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Sg3 had more RAM
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More RAM doesn't equate to more power lol
My main reason for moving to HTC (from Samsung Epic 4G) is OEM support. Samsung could care less about upgrading phone's they've already sold. You can bet your mortgage on the Evo getting Jelly Bean before the Galaxy S III, and I'm sure we're talking a difference in months.
tjkrz said:
My main reason for moving to HTC (from Samsung Epic 4G) is OEM support. Samsung could care less about upgrading phone's they've already sold. You can bet your mortgage on the Evo getting Jelly Bean before the Galaxy S III, and I'm sure we're talking a difference in months.
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I'm thinking the same but usually upgrades are a pain cause so many differences and carriers, I think sprint got the best track record with upgrades but maybe is because they don't have so many phones as Verizon and att, plus this time around the device is the same @ll over the us carriers so it should be easier, I'm getting the gs3 on tmobile since I already have tmobile but I'm keeping my EVO and wait for lte and the only thing that I hate about my EVO 3g doesn't cut it sometimes, when the evo came out I had not problems with 3g and that's all I used cause 4G will kill battery quick, to the op they both are great phones I think you should try the gs3 and if you prefer sense too much(even tho you said you like cm7) then get evo lte, btw development on the gs3 will be probably better then evo only because is the same phone in all major us carriers so all those developers will make roms for each on carrier and just changed radios and what not for the other carrier so it will be amazing and that was what Myn was talking about when he choose to get the GS3
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I laugh at anyone who chooses the Galaxy S3 because it has twice as much RAM as the Evo LTE. RAM wasn't a bottleneck in the 3D so why would it be an issue in the LTE? It was hardly a problem with the 4G. Phones simply don't utilize all that RAM. Adding more won't change anything.
Your decision should come down to maybe a handful of things. Probably the biggest knock against the Evo LTE is the battery. You have the freedom to access the S3's battery whenever you please without having to remove screws. For some people, that's a dealbreaker and they would shell out for the S3. Likewise, others would prefer the dedicated camera button.
At the end of the day, the decision is yours. I'm not really sure if I ever see myself buying a phone not made by HTC. Their products are simply amazing. I don't have anything against Samsung, it's just I love the three flagship Evos I have owned. I haven't found a reason to abandon them.
I think the question that has been asked has not yet been answered. Which phone will have more custom roms available. Or, maybe more importantly which will get a fully functional Cyanogen mod or other popular rom first?
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Im running cm9 on my Evo Lte now it's almost perfect no video camera yet. I think the SG 3 already has official cm support because Samsung already released source, HTC hasn't yet. Im pretty sure once source comes out the evo will get official support too. So to me it's which phone you like better, they're so close spec wise.
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ibleedbloo said:
I think the question that has been asked has not yet been answered. Which phone will have more custom roms available. Or, maybe more importantly which will get a fully functional Cyanogen mod or other popular rom first?
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This was the main part of question, and it hasn't really gotten much input. (Except from jgalan14, who brought up a good point)
shook187 said:
You said a bunch of nothing. Also what makes you think the GS3 has more "raw power"? They both have the same chip.
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stellar said:
More RAM doesn't equate to more power lol
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chessmyantidrug said:
I laugh at anyone who chooses the Galaxy S3 because it has twice as much RAM as the Evo LTE. RAM wasn't a bottleneck in the 3D so why would it be an issue in the LTE? It was hardly a problem with the 4G. Phones simply don't utilize all that RAM. Adding more won't change anything.
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Actually I do consider more ram more power. It's not technically processing power, but if something makes it run faster, then I consider it giving it more power. Not technically correct, but it's still faster.
And no, that much more ram is not an issue when just using the phone to make calls and surf the web, or even play games from the market. But I already stated that one of the biggest things I use it for is playing on emulators. Well more ram IS needed for the later gen console emulators to run smoothly, especially when mirroring to the TV. My original 4g didn't run alot of N64 games smoothly when on the TV. You may laugh at me choosing the GS3 for more ram, but obviously you don't know anything about computer hardware if you actually paid attention to the post and still came to that conclusion.
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I think the GS3 is going to be the better choice. The removable battery and more RAM are pretty big selling points. Not to mention the battery life on the GS3 is way better also. I'm not particularly concerned about it "feeling cheap" and I don't mind not having a camera button. I think the GS3 has some cooler camera features anyways. I will miss the kickstand though. Jgalan14 brought up a good point, hopefully the GS3 will get decent mods as well, if not I guess I can deal with it as long as I just get the free wifi hotspot from rooting. Especially since the main reason I modded was because of the Bluetooth issues keeping you from connecting Wiimotes to the Evo 4g; modding isn't necessary to connect Bluetooth controllers to the GS3. (Even tho CM7 has been awesome, so I may use Cyanogen mods again on the GS3)
Mainly, I think the GS3 will be much better at running emulators.
Now I'm just going to have to go buy one of those stupid proprietary MHL cables... that's my one big complaint about the GS3.
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
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I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
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Lol that's a kick I'm the nuts, 2gb of ram!! AMD a small print disclaimer saying 1gb is to run touchwiz smoothly lol screw SG3
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nkchri2 said:
This was the main part of question, and it hasn't really gotten much input. (Except from jgalan14, who brought up a good point)
Actually I do consider more ram more power. It's not technically processing power, but if something makes it run faster, then I consider it giving it more power. Not technically correct, but it's still faster.
And no, that much more ram is not an issue when just using the phone to make calls and surf the web, or even play games from the market. But I already stated that one of the biggest things I use it for is playing on emulators. Well more ram IS needed for the later gen console emulators to run smoothly, especially when mirroring to the TV. My original 4g didn't run alot of N64 games smoothly when on the TV. You may laugh at me choosing the GS3 for more ram, but obviously you don't know anything about computer hardware if you actually paid attention to the post and still came to that conclusion.
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I think the GS3 is going to be the better choice. The removable battery and more RAM are pretty big selling points. Not to mention the battery life on the GS3 is way better also. I'm not particularly concerned about it "feeling cheap" and I don't mind not having a camera button. I think the GS3 has some cooler camera features anyways. I will miss the kickstand though. Jgalan14 brought up a good point, hopefully the GS3 will get decent mods as well, if not I guess I can deal with it as long as I just get the free wifi hotspot from rooting. Especially since the main reason I modded was because of the Bluetooth issues keeping you from connecting Wiimotes to the Evo 4g; modding isn't necessary to connect Bluetooth controllers to the GS3. (Even tho CM7 has been awesome, so I may use Cyanogen mods again on the GS3)
Mainly, I think the GS3 will be much better at running emulators.
Now I'm just going to have to go buy one of those stupid proprietary MHL cables... that's my one big complaint about the GS3.
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Hold your horses here...
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of these "more RAM=1337 ph0ne" comments that are parroted endlessly everywhere. No Android phone has ever had 2GB of RAM before... The bottom line is that its benefits remain to be seen. From what we do know, it really shouldn't help at all (given the way Android utilizes RAM). Maybe with Android 5 or 6 (lol) down the line? Who knows.
What I do know for sure right now is that RAM it will precisely 0 effect on its emulator performance. That all comes down to developer optimization for particular chipsets. At the level Android phone emulators are currently operating (not to mention the basic systems they're emulating), RAM is the last thing that will help. Now a future PS2 emulator might be a different story, although the S4 is not nearly powerful enough to run it at anywhere near acceptable levels.
Battery life "way better" on the S3? Can I have some of what you are smoking sir? The only difference is a 100mah battery in its favor. Every review I've read so far has stated that it has, at most, equal battery life to the EVO/ATT One X. Removable battery is a nice plus though.
IMO the big difference to consider between these two phones is software, plain and simple.
How is 100mAh significantly more battery? Not to mention gsmarena battery test had the EVO at 45, the int gs3 at 43
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regalpimpin said:
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
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I wasn't trying to directly compare... I was just stated that for reference. As far as the extra ram being used up by touchwiz, then that just means there is one more huge reason to keep using Cyanogen like I am now. Goodbye touchwiz, hello extra 1Gb RAM!! Even if current emulators and apps can't take full advantage of the extra RAM, I think it still does make it more future proof than the LTEvo. And even if you can't unlock the other 1GB from touchwiz, it still will make the phone faster and less laggy with dedicated RAM for the UI.
As far as the benchmarks, I'm not really sure where you got that information. A link would be nice = D
I'm not a dead set fan of either phone. I have thoroughly enjoyed my original Evo. I just want to pick the better phone for how I want to use it. So far, I haven't seen anything to sway my choice towards the LTEvo. The better/removable battery and the extra RAM are pretty big.
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So far from this post and more research, this is what I've found.
Evo 4g LTE:
- Looks like the rear facing camera is better
- Better display
- It's not all plastic
- Kickstand!
- Hardware camera button
- Doesn't rely on proprietary accessories (a la S3 MHL cable)
- Beats audio
Galaxy S3
- Extra RAM (even if it is dedicated to Touchwiz, that is just a big chunk less of the original 1GB being used for the UI, which means more free RAM)
- Same phone across all carriers, hopefully leading to more/easier 3rd party development
- More camera functions (continuous shooting / best shot)
- Removable battery
- Longer lasting battery
- 32 Gb option available
- .6 MP larger front facing camera
- Better multitasking than the LTEvo (no reloading)
- S-Voice
@nkchri2. Are you sure you understand that 1.5gb of ram sitting around doing nothing on your phone will be just as useful as 200mb or ram sitting around on your phone doing nothing? The extra ram, whether it be 100mb or 8gb's, does the exact same thing. It is just sitting there. Now if you feel you will have 100 apps open at the same time then maybe you will see the benefit. If ram even matters at all at this point, it certainly doesn't matter to the degree at which you are giving it right now
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Battery life "way better" on the S3? Can I have some of what you are smoking sir? The only difference is a 100mah battery in its favor. Every review I've read so far has stated that it has, at most, equal battery life to the EVO/ATT One X. Removable battery is a nice plus though.
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sinfiery said:
How is 100mAh significantly more battery? Not to mention gsmarena battery test had the EVO at 45, the int gs3 at 43
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I missed the two post concerning my comments on the battery life. The S3 having a way better battery was the wrong way of putting it I guess. Yes, it's only 100mAh more, so it has a 5% larger battery. I guess the point is the S3 must be much easier on its battery. You mentioned gsmarena...
gsmarena(dot)com
/compare.php3?idPhone1=4804&idPhone2=4665
(Forum wont let me post links yet... so I had to list it that way)
This compares the two phones and lists the S3 having 2 hours and 30 minutes longer talk time the the LTEvo. I have seen a few other websites also showing a clear advantage in the battery life with video and surfing as well, I just can't find that link and gsmarena just lists talk time numbers. If I do I'll repost.
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@nkchri2. Are you sure you understand that 1.5gb of ram sitting around doing nothing on your phone will be just as useful as 200mb or ram sitting around on your phone doing nothing? The extra ram, whether it be 100mb or 8gb's, does the exact same thing. It is just sitting there. Now if you feel you will have 100 apps open at the same time then maybe you will see the benefit. If ram even matters at all at this point, it certainly doesn't matter to the degree at which you are giving it right now
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Even if it doesn't.. does it hurt to have it? Everyone just keeps posting about how the extras the GS3 has "doesn't matter". I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I posted in this forum to get information ABOUT the LTEvo, but seems like most people are just LTEvo fans that want to flame the GS3, not really comparing. Okay, well like I said, I'm not dead set on getting either, but if that stuff doesn't matter...
What does the LTEvo have to offer that the GS3 doesn't that would make me want it instead?
I made a list in a previous post but I still think I'm leaning more towards the GS3, but if anyone has something I'm missing on the LTEvo I'd love to hear it.
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Even if it doesn't.. does it hurt to have it? Everyone just keeps posting about how the extras the GS3 has "doesn't matter". I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I posted in this forum to get information ABOUT the LTEvo, but seems like most people are just LTEvo fans that want to flame the GS3, not really comparing. Okay, well like I said, I'm not dead set on getting either, but if that stuff doesn't matter...
What does the LTEvo have to offer that the GS3 doesn't that would make me want it instead?
I made a list in a previous post but I still think I'm leaning more towards the GS3, but if anyone has something I'm missing on the LTEvo I'd love to hear it.
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Dude you are in the EVOLTE forum, we are all users and fans of this phone. What do you expect? Ofcourse we will lean towards the evo more. Both are good phones, but honestly we like the evo way more otherwise we wouldnt have bought it and actively discuss and praise it. Stop trolling with the gs3 is better crap.