The 3d images and videos on my phone doesnt really work all the time. The two images dont really line up properly. It seems like the phone is having convergence issues or something. The images look somewhat 3D but there is a lot of double images and ghosting. Nothing like when I got it out of the box. The 3d effect was perfect. Sometimes a hard reset will tame it, even tried a factory reset but the problem keeps coming back. Does anyone else have this issue?
i too have this issue.
My hypothesis, is that it cant or didnt auto focus correctly
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Also i have the "out of box" software. these OTAs might have fixed some 3D rendering software
craig.pulliam said:
The 3d images and videos on my phone doesnt really work all the time. The two images dont really line up properly. It seems like the phone is having convergence issues or something. The images look somewhat 3D but there is a lot of double images and ghosting. Nothing like when I got it out of the box. The 3d effect was perfect. Sometimes a hard reset will tame it, even tried a factory reset but the problem keeps coming back. Does anyone else have this issue?
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i went to a baseball game yesterday and took some pics... i seriously have to cross my eyes to see a solid picture. it seems the 3D camera works well for pics between 3 to 50ft away, anything farther seems to strain your eyes when trying to focus. The players were doubled (with lots of space between them) and focusing before taking the pic isn't that accurate(even in 2D), the samsung galaxy s has much MUCH better focus abilities. Took a pic of the city skyline and it wasn't as crisp as i thought it would be
i hope software updates in the future improve this (ie the camera from the new mytouch)
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i went to a baseball game yesterday and took some pics... i seriously have to cross my eyes to see a solid picture. it seems the 3D camera works well for pics between 3 to 50ft away, anything farther seems to strain your eyes when trying to focus. The players were doubled (with lots of space between them) and focusing before taking the pic isn't that accurate(even in 2D), the samsung galaxy s has much MUCH better focus abilities. Took a pic of the city skyline and it wasn't as crisp as i thought it would be
i hope software updates in the future improve this (ie the camera from the new mytouch)
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Thanks for that. And yeah its software, like you said, so they could easily bump up some goods
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I have all the OTA updates. It's a real problem and I think more people have it than realize. But as long as its a software issue I can hold off on trading it in. My handset is perfect as far as build, so if its not fixed in a few weeks I'll just exchange it as defective.
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Another symptom is that 3D pictures in the gallery don't work in portrait. It just shows the two pictures interlaced together with no 3D effect at all.
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You can adjust the image after you take it. Use the magic wand and align 3d image. Pretty simple.
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I've seen a video on youtube that looked like you describe, but it seemed to be a fluke, most of the other things looked as I'd expect.
Our cameras are fixed and can't adjust for different distances like our eyes can so the 3d effect will be lost of trying to capture somethin far away....
As far as 3d in portrait it works but it wasn't meant to be seen that way
Bussin Caps n 3D
I've notice this also but I call it a bad take on a picture. Just like it was stated above the camera might not have focused correctly. Usually another take does it. And I've noticed that looking at 3D content doesn't strain my eyes like before because I trained my eyes for this this type of media. Now I could see a 3D pic in an instant.
My ''xDU4L C0R3 SH00T3Rx'' shot you down in 3D!
Nah its not a bad take and pictures are being taken properly. I know this because after a hard reset everything shows up fine for a minute or two before reverting back. (3d effect in landscape but not spaced properly so lots of ghosting and double images, no 3d effect AT ALL in portrait just shows two interlaced photos.) I know the 3d isn't optimal in portrait but its not working for me, period.
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Someone who has the device, please verify. I have not seen a conclusive answer to if it can show 3d in portrait or not. Most say no, some say yes. Someone with the phone can test this quickly.
If it doesn't show 3d in portrait, what does it do when trying to view a 3d photo in portrait?
Thanks.
EDIT: several users confirm below that the screen does indeed show 3d in the portrait orientation, albeit with mixed results.
Do bot have the device but I can assure that you cannot. Parralax barrier can only do one orientation.
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Someone who has the device, please verify. I have not seen a conclusive answer to if it can show 3d in portrait or not. Most say no, some say yes. Someone with the phone can test this quickly.
If it doesn't show 3d in portrait, what does it do when trying to view a 3d photo in portrait?
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Taking a portrait picture would be pointless for 3D since the cameras would be on top of eachother and the file itself wouldn't work in portrait.
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Do bot have the device but I can assure that you cannot. Parralax barrier can only do one orientation.
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huh?
i have the phone and you can see 3D in portrait
not that well, but it does it
rotate it to landscape and simply looks better
I'm not asking about taking a picture, only viewing it. And I only ask about a photo cause it's easy and direct yes or no. What I really want to know is if the screen can show 3d in portrait. I've assumed that it cannot. But xHausx thought it could as well as GSM Arena said it could.
I know the theories. Just want someone with the phone to do this one test to prove it.
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huh?
i have the phone and you can see 3D in portrait
not that well, but it does it
rotate it to landscape and simply looks better
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So the screen definitely shows 3d in portrait?
Sweetness.
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So the screen definitely shows 3d in portrait?
Sweetness.
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actually its not that bad in portrait,for some reason it takes a bit longer for my eyes to register the 3D lol
but after a minute it'll look fine in portrait,but of course the pic is smaller
when u landscape it, it goes full screen and then its easier to see
But if defiinately shows in portrait. I havent taken any pics yets, im using the 15 standard 3d pics that came with the phone
I have the device, and while it does show a 3d picture in portrait mode, it is not in 3d, its eschewed and weird. when you turn it to landscape the photo becomes 3d.
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I have the device, and while it does show a 3d picture in portrait mode, it is not in 3d, its eschewed and weird. when you turn it to landscape the photo becomes 3d.
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i thought that at first,but i stared at it longer, its DEFINATELY in 3D in portrait, i have 20/20 vision
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for some reason it takes a bit longer for my eyes to register the 3D
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That's likely because your brain is going through the motions of imagining that both of your eyes are stacked on top of eachother...seriously. It is physically impossible to have an actual 3D viewing experience in portrait...perhaps your brain is interpreting it and getting some depth information out of it...kinda...but it is not intended to be viewed that way.
...though I do think think an orientation agnostic parallax barrier technology could be developed and made relatively inexpensive eventually. I know nothing about the parallax barrier technology, though as a high end specialty screen printer in a former life I'm very familiar with lenticular printing and I imagine it's the same idea...I also imagine that the barrier is a black-n-white LCD type technology oriented at angles....and I don't see why they couldn't have multiple angles...though that would probably add thickness....but once the resolution of the screen gets high enough it would probably not be too noticeable....
...or I'm way the fnck off...
I like saywhat's take on the matter!
Others please confirm. I'm getting geeked for 3d ui possibilities now
We should just rename this entire General forum to "Confirmation Bias Central" until everyone gets the damned phone in their hands...christ.
I too thought that paralax barriers only worked in one orientation, but the portrait orientation definitely looks 3d. 3d UI sounds sweet, I would suggest a default UI orientation of landscape - I know I almost always have my phone in landscape anyway
ps - I am on my EVO 3d right now.
Sorry daneurysm, but yes, I am using the forum to ask a question to those who have a device already. I'm just not sure Jesus cares enough about this for you to drag Him into it.
I think that's 2 who say definitely parallax 3d works in portrait. One or two more confirm and I'll change the op title maybe. HTC is stupid for not explaining this clearly.
Its taking my eyes forever to adjust to the 3D effects.... lmao
R.I.P corneas
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Sorry daneurysm, but yes, I am using the forum to ask a question to those who have a device already. I'm just not sure Jesus cares enough about this for you to drag Him into it.
I think that's 2 who say definitely parallax 3d works in portrait. One or two more confirm and I'll change the op title maybe. HTC is stupid for not explaining this clearly.
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Amen to that, lol.
HTC was not clear at all and I have heard conflicting theories from all across the board...though I am suspicious that HTC not commenting directly on it would suggest that they don't want to say it can't be in 3D for 90% of the things you use your phone for.
I don't see it being impossible, in fact quite the opposite as I explained above...though I figure we would have heard about this specifically if it was "3D however you hold it" technology.
I hope it is 3D all the way around, but, logic is pointing in the opposite direction....don't underestimate your brain's ability to overestimate it's input stimuli, it's fascinatingly good at 'filling in the details', especially visually.
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i have 20/20 vision
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For now.
Maybe it does 3d in portrait with 2 parallax barriers and switches between them. And perhaps they didn't advertise it because portrait 3d is even more eye straining? Idk, but it's cool if it can do it.
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Maybe it does 3d in portrait with 2 parallax barriers and switches between them. And perhaps they didn't advertise it because portrait 3d is even more eye straining? Idk, but it's cool if it can do it.
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I don't see how or why that would be impossible to do...and like I said before (and I should google it...maybe later...not now) I know nothing of this technology, but I imagine it's like old black-n-white LCD technology with each strip at an angle...or two, one on each side for alternating lines....but perhaps they could do a matrix and trigger it like a dot-matrix LCD, one for horizontal and one for vertical depending on orientation....though that also changes the angles...I wonder if the supposedly limited viewing angle has something to do with this in any way.
...don't concern me, I look at my phone dead-on...like everybody...and I don't treat it like a home theater either...
The 2D -> 3D button is only for the camera, right? Is it going to be possible to completely turn off the 3D effect? I'm sure the novelty will wear off and I'd rather the battery life.
OK, maybe i have bad eyes, and according to the optometrist i do Anyway, point being, i seem to have absolutely no trouble seeing the 3d effect and i can see it from, not a wide angle range, but i dont have to be in the "magical" spot. Even all the photos and videos i took look great. Far better than the ones that came on the phone as samples. Lastly, the 3d content on youtube was awesome and very easily viewed to me. I am one to get motion sick easily and for some reason, i have no issues with this device. Like i said, maybe iim the exception, but i'm 110% satisfied with the device and the "gimmic" 3d
Yeah I think the 3d mode is pretty good. All though at extreme angles it will mess with your eyes.
I agree, 3d is very easy to see for me. It looks amazing too
I thought the same thing.
I played with a ds3d and hated it. Knowing that this phone had similar tech made me question its quality and ease on my eyes.
Well i can say now that the 3d is very good! Just got done watching green Hornet 3d and my eyes feel fine. I did fine myself loosing the 3d at times but I think that's cause I was looking at it for so long.
Pictures are a little harder to tune in and are harsher on the eyes, but the 3d affect is amazing! This phone is definitely a win in my book.
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bothers the heck out of my eyes, I find it too bothersome to hold it in the correct spot.
now...I think its cool for short recordings and pics, but theres no way im watching a whole 3d movie on it.
had to take aspirin after about 8 minutes of green hornet.
or maybe its just cause I think that movie stinks
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bothers the heck out of my eyes, I find it too bothersome to hold it in the correct spot.
now...I think its cool for short recordings and pics, but theres no way im watching a whole 3d movie on it.
had to take aspirin after about 8 minutes of green hornet.
or maybe its just cause I think that movie stinks
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Agreed, Worst Seth Rogan film ever. Hurts my eyes too.
Now the 3D effect, is bad ass! Yes you have to have it at the correct angle but with a Kickstand case, no problemo.
Last time I got my eyes checked, about 3 years ago, I had 20/15 vision so I would say that my sight is pretty good. The 3D effect is good but I find, at least for me, that the window is extremely narrow. It really has to be in the prefect position, otherwise it's nauseating.
I find it amazing. U just have to hold it still
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Had no idea it would be this good
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I find it amazing. U just have to hold it still
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I must admit the 3D is much better than I expected, especially after reading the early reviews. I'm fortunate in that I haven't had the eye fatigue or headaches reported by some. But as far as the 3D effect it is very good, even the pictures I've taken; and practice makes perfect. As mentioned above, holding the phone still in important.
The YouTube videos are awesome. I upgraded from the 4G to the 3D for the new processor and Sense 3.0; 3D was really not much of interest yet that is all I've been playing with since I got the phone yesterday.
At a price of $199 after rebates, why would anyone in there right mind complain about a feature you do not have to use anyway. It is amazing that this thing has 3d along with all of it's other top specs of any device and still came in at the price point it did.
The only thing they might have done different if they did not add the 3d in would have been to up the camera to 8mp but even then, it would probably be the same camera we have now but just shoot larger pictures so who cares.
I also bet all the people who screamed gimmick are starring at there phone right now trying to find anything in 3d to view.......
Although right now, I am starring at my phone fighting with myself if I should push the button to upgrade my software or wait to see if they root the non-updated software!
Anyway, 3d is a win on this device! Don't know how much better they could have made it and cannot understand how any reviewer can complain about the way it was implemented.....
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I agree, 3d is very easy to see for me. It looks amazing too
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I have amazing vision according to my doctor but the 3d hurts my eyes. I also have to be holding it just the right distance away to see it. Too close and it looks 2d.
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I watched the entire Green Hornet movie in 3D last night and I experienced no eye strain or headaches at all. I never took a break to even pause it: just watched it all the way through. In fact, about 10 minutes into the movie my eyes adjusted to the whole 3D thing and it seemed perfectly natural to watch it that way: not a gimmick. I really enjoyed it and the 3D effect is nearly as good as the plasma/LCD 3D TV's with the active shutter glasses.
Only thing that felt a little strain is my neck because I watched the whole thing while lying on my stomach in the bed, pillow under my chin, with the phone propped up against the headboard. Man I wish they hadn't deleted the kickstand on this phone because I really like the gel case I'm using: don't want to buy a case with a kickstand.
So I'm just curious, am I the only one who has no problem with the 3D (no eye strain)? Are others having problems?
Mike
Just curious...how far away from your face did you prop your 3vo? Do you wear glasses? If so, are you nearsighted, farsighted and do your glasses correct for astigmatism?
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i get a headache almost instantly from the 3D >< :-(
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i get a headache almost instantly from the 3D >< :-(
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I guess 3d isn't for some people. I sat at the sprint store and watched a bunch of youtube videos and had no problems with headaches or eye strain.
I have a Sony Bravia 55” 3DTV with about 10 movies on Blu Ray in 3D (one of them being The Green Hornet) and have never had any problems having my eyes adjust or with headaches from the 3D. In fact I don’t think I’ve even had a headache period in the past 10 years or so, if not longer. I also have an HP Envy 3D Laptop. I’m extremely nearsighted and need to wear prescription glasses 24/7. I don’t have any problems with the Evo 3D either. I love 3D technology, it’s definitely no gimmick.
No headaches for me with 3D. I watched Green Hornet without issues.
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I have a Sony Bravia 55” 3DTV with about 10 movies on Blu Ray in 3D (one of them being The Green Hornet) and have never had any problems having my eyes adjust or with headaches from the 3D. In fact I don’t think I’ve even had a headache period in the past 10 years or so, if not longer. I also have an HP Envy 3D Laptop. I’m extremely nearsighted and need to wear prescription glasses 24/7. I don’t have any problems with the Evo 3D either. I love 3D technology, it’s definitely no gimmick.
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But I'm guessing the TV and laptop still require glasses right? If so that would be why, it doesn't put the same strain on your eyes as no glasses 3d.
I have played spiderman 3d for about an hour and a half to two hours, no ill effects except I didn't get laid during that stretch of 3vo gaming...
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No issues for me lol if your old maybe have isssues but not the younger crowd.
Yea I got a headache from playing N.O.V.A 3D after five min...looks good tho...I have 20/20
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No issues for me lol if your old maybe have isssues but not the younger crowd.
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25 with 20/20 doubt thats the issue.
It's not how well you perceive objects at a given distance. So if you're 20/20 20/15, that's not the issue. The issue stems from one eye being more dominant than the other. There are several test online that will help you determine where the issue is.
Nah except for that ridiculous Spiderman game I've been good to go. I've been watching downloaded movies all day without a problem. My gf can't look at the screen for more than 30 seconds without looking like she has an aneurism though so I guess it's kind of subjective. Hopefully you'll get used to it soon enough
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Just curious...how far away from your face did you prop your 3vo? Do you wear glasses? If so, are you nearsighted, farsighted and do your glasses correct for astigmatism?
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The phone was about 10-12 inches from my face. I don't wear glasses but I do have slight astigmatism that I have glasses for but I rarely wear them. The glasses make things sharper but they're just not worth wearing as the difference isn't huge. I'm 44 (thanks to those of you who thought I was "young").
Mike
Well I'm probably older than most in here and I am good to go now. I must admit the first night with the phone watching some of those YouTube vids my eyes were goofy as hell! Yesterday was better. Today...well, it just looks natural. I don't think it's an age thing, lol. Definitely needs a kick-stand, they screwed the pooch on that one!
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Just curious...how far away from your face did you prop your 3vo? Do you wear glasses? If so, are you nearsighted, farsighted and do your glasses correct for astigmatism?
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Nearsighted with astigmatism and wear contacts. No issues here.
For me, it seems that the switching between 2D and 3D is what gives me a headache. Watching the Green Hornet 3D doesn't give me any eye strains. But when I go through the included 3D pictures, I get strains from the constant switching between 2D and 3D.
I can't see it
Don't own the Evo yet, but after viewing a friend's unit I discovered that I ~can't~ see any 3d effect at all, either in the Green Hornet, or in photo view/camera mode (and yes it was in 3d). All I can see is two separate images that flip back and forth like a hologram when I tilt the phone. Tried every distance between 8" and full arm's length (I'm far-sighted so 8" i can't focus).. I don't know whether my eyes are the wrong distance apart or if its because I'm severely right-eye dominant... Sad day because I was planning to buy this phone, but the screen drives me totally nutz in 3d and gives me a headache in normal/2d mode too.
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Don't own the Evo yet, but after viewing a friend's unit I discovered that I ~can't~ see any 3d effect at all, either in the Green Hornet, or in photo view/camera mode (and yes it was in 3d). All I can see is two separate images that flip back and forth like a hologram when I tilt the phone. Tried every distance between 8" and full arm's length (I'm far-sighted so 8" i can't focus).. I don't know whether my eyes are the wrong distance apart or if its because I'm severely right-eye dominant... Sad day because I was planning to buy this phone, but the screen drives me totally nutz in 3d and gives me a headache in normal/2d mode too.
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LOL some folks that have a eye problem such as they are far sited or have to use one eye to read and the other to drive don't know what the condition is called can't ever see 3D no depth perception.
No issues here, nearsighted and wear contacts. I've always loved those images that you have to really look at to see though, so maybe that makes a difference
Anyone notice that on youtubes 3d videos sometimes you need to look at the screen at a slight angle because if you look at it straight on the 3d will be inverse? This is only for some videos, I'm wondering if there is a reason for this, left and right images swapped or something.
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Someone said that viewing it with the bottom of the phone to your left accounts for that....
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The side by side encoding is reversed from the way the evo 3d screen handles it. The YouTube app really needs an update to give us options to address this. The website version of YouTube lets you click the 3d option on the player and change things like swapping the side by side, switching to anaglyph, etc.
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Something still tells me, that it has more to do with the user taking the video's, and as i have noticed when they take pic's, seems everyone is really different. I have seen a good bit of really great video's on youtube that xda member's have taken, then some not so great, so i don't think personally it's youtube, same goes for still pics have seem some amazing stills, even the one's i have taken turned out clear and crisp looking 3D.
Has anyone else experienced when taking a 3D pic and you lock your phone and then unlock, the weather animation is in "3D mode" although it does not pop out or nothing due to it being just a single 2D image looks like if we unlock this puppy (by unlock i mean S off) we may be able to create a 3D lock screen I dont care to make an entire rom in 3D but the lockscreen in 3D would be nice. Anyone willing to look into this with me?
45 min battery life.
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45 min battery life.
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Lol
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I wouldn't say 45 minutes. 1.5 hours, however....
That would be cool. And the idea has been through around a few times. But yeah, battery would be pretty bad. Also, the parallax barrier isn't arrange to do portrait properly I don't think. Im pretty sure its aligned to only do landscape. If you notice when you view a 3d pic in portrait your viewing angle is like 2degrees and it still doesn't look quite right.
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That would be cool. And the idea has been through around a few times. But yeah, battery would be pretty bad. Also, the parallax barrier isn't arrange to do portrait properly I don't think. Im pretty sure its aligned to only do landscape. If you notice when you view a 3d pic in portrait your viewing angle is like 2degrees and it still doesn't look quite right.
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Right. It would technically work, but it would look like crap. I don't think its worth the effort. Maybe a launcher that turns into 3D when viewed in landscape mode? Or a toggle to turn the display from 2D to 3D. Hopefully all this will be possible if the devs here can unlock the bootloader.
I would love to have it 3D, like in the commercials. I feel like I got short changed when I turn on my phone and the home screen isn't jumping out at me. Now that would shut up the iphone geeks.
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Right. It would technically work, but it would look like crap. I don't think its worth the effort. Maybe a launcher that turns into 3D when viewed in landscape mode? Or a toggle to turn the display from 2D to 3D. Hopefully all this will be possible if the devs here can unlock the bootloader.
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Hey, now there is a thought. a mod that would use the 2D-3D switch on the phone that is dedicated to just the camera, hack that so it turns 3D on once the phone goes into landscape mode. You know, like what everyone thought the 3D switch was for in the first place! hack it up and name it "the ORIGINAL 3D switch" or something.
Also, something I have been thinking about (which isn't possible I don't think but, it SHOULD have been something incorporated.)
the phones have a tilt sensor. why wasn't the parallax barrier linked to that in some way, so whenever the phone is tilted from it's centered calibration, the PB would adjust in real time to the new position. voila!, good bye narrow 3D viewing angle.
Sounds interesting but the barrier is a physical thing more than it is software or am I wrong
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Sounds interesting but the barrier is a physical thing more than it is software or am I wrong
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most definitely is a physical thing, which is why it wouldn't really be possible now that the phone is released. cool idea none the less.
I had this happen to me and everything in the launcher had 3d-ish effect to it even the app drawer. It was pretty neat but eventually it went away.
Looking at the screen while in the sun you can actually see the parallax barrier..... What I saw was a uniform grid
So technically the only reason 3d couldn't function properly in portrait would be because of the lack of real estate to trick your eyes..
Bussin Caps n 3D
The grid was like 10x5
Bussin Caps n 3D