I really really hope the camera is better than the evo 4g Im really tired of all my friends taking perfect pictures and videos with their iphones while my evo only takes good pictures of nonmoving things in daylight and audio from video is absolutely horrible. I go to concerts all the time and have a 12k dj setup and while my iphone friends can take perfect audio and video of both, i have to wait for them to send me the vids they took. And have to get them to send me pics from all the events we go to because my camera cant handle low light or people that dont stand completely still. This will be the issue that makes or breaks it for me. Anyone know if it will be better? And carrying a "real" camera with everyday for my day to day pictures isnt an option.
Been an HTC user for years, really hoping i can continue
I'm with you there. I was at possibly the last Pink Floyd concert and all my pictures came out like ****.
Zabalba said:
I'm with you there. I was at possibly the last Pink Floyd concert and all my pictures came out like ****.
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You lucky man! Man I would die to see Floyd, I missed him on his Pulse tour in the States
If you watch the wirefly review of the phone the guy states his wife is a professional photographer and she had a chance to use the camera on the Evo3D and said that it was her new favorite camera.
Now I don't know if she is really a professional or she just liked to take 3D pictures but it's a start.
Im mean, 3D is kinda cool, but i hope they got closer to perfecting normal pics and vid before deciding to take on 3D. But stranger things have def happened!
maybe im the only person that thinks its a huge issue, but it is my biggest issue by far, especially when so much emphasis is put on the cameras! Like the amazing 8mp camera on the evo 4g that sucks A$$$$$$$$$
I too am hoping for this. I hate that the 5 mega pixel camera on my wifes epic blows the evo 4g out of the water. It is truely a piece of ****.
I think you guys are hard on the ol 4g I've taken some real nice pics with mine..as long as its well lit .but the review shots looked great I'm excited
I think it will be okay for stills but suck anus otherwise. Well light stills that is.
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I have had the Photon for a couple of weeks now. It is rooted and I mostly love it. However, I think the camera is substandard......or mine is defective? When in camera mode and I'm just looking at the video on the screen (viewfinder), there is a lot of video noise, especially around the edges. The resultant picture is "grainy" looking. Is this normal? Is there an app that can help clean this up? I want to love this thing completely, but the camera is not even close to the quality of my old Epic. I'm beginning to wonder if I should trade it for the new SII, but I hate to.....
Really? I thought it was pretty good compared to my evo 4G and 3D.
meh, i'm not as impressed as i was days ago. i did some 720 and 1080 tests; 720 looks like kinda crappy on the pc and pixelates easily, and 1080 looks better...720 is nice because it's 60fps, though. (actually, this is what i was told..and 720 looks smoother....buuuuuut in windows, ti still says my 720 videos are 30fps?! wtf? any ideas anyone?)
recorded some guitar videos; the video looks good, but the audio is GOD AWFUL. it encodes at 128kbps; that's absolte ****. i set the videos to mono, so maybe that has something to do with it, but idk.
either way, there's random clicks and pops and the frequency of the audio continuously changes, making it sounds like complete ass and there being no consistant guitar tone in it.
then again, this is just a phone that can also make videos, so who am i to complain? lol
720p guitar:
http://youtu.be/FiJodPE8ZYQ
1080p guitar:
http://youtu.be/5IMRlQ6Bx2s
720p outside with dog:
http://youtu.be/T2rr3k-MqjE
720p outside with dog 2:
http://youtu.be/nE1xw7YY0mI
slowmo 720 (which i think is pretty sweet):
http://youtu.be/1kyJkxzri70
1080p outside:
http://youtu.be/zfeeC574R5Q
JUST video quality, 1080p, not a lot of light (audio in these comes from my guitarport USB interface)
http://youtu.be/Nf-OB0y9B3E
http://youtu.be/WLwzK_QKuSA
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11/21 Vids (i have a feeling this mic just can't handle lows well, so when certain low freqs hit, something is messing up and making that squink noise. i guess my drums aren't hitting that low of a freq that my bass cab (which is four 15 inch speakers) and my guitar cab (four 12 inch speakers) are apparently throwing out.)
1080p Drums: (sound clipped a bit, but don't notice the squink noise)
http://youtu.be/Dl29M4jlyvE
1080p Bass: (lower freqs mess it up)
http://youtu.be/OYiG4NyONoQ
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added 11/24, still has pops and freq changes
blues rock improv:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56I1hBjecpc
panama (sloppy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn2M8vpTHqQ
honestly, the quality of the audio is really starting to piss me off. 128kbps is NOT ENOUGH for a camera to encode audio, damnit! time to continue with my open ticket to HTC about their ****ty audio.
overall, the audio is INCREDIBLY disappointing. why do they make high quality video, with such ****ty audio? i guess they figure the public doesn't know the difference between 128kbps and 320, which is kind of lame. oh well. guess i'll continue to use my crappy $40 kodak waterproof 720p camera for guitar vids lol
i propose that somehow, app devs or regular devs, we should all look into making the audio record at a higher quality. for example, built in voice memo records at like 96kbps..which is awful. tape recorder, a free app, can record up to 320mbps, which is MUCH better. there's gotta be a way to change that in the built in camera app, or maybe a new app that utilizies 1080p video and can record at a higher bitrate!
the problem with the pixelation is the intense hand movements with the guitar are too much for the phone not to mention the awesomeness of the sound being produced by the guitar is also too much for the phone to handle.
i have not checked out the other videos(just the guitar ones) so no comment on those.
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hahahahaha now THAT'S a response i can live with
when you watch the 720p outside dog videos, you'll notice some colors seem to "lump" together and pixelate.
did you hear how it sounds like there's a phasing effect on the guitar videos' audio? sounds like it's phasing in and out of diff frequencies. i wonder, maybe this built in mic just can't handle loud volumes..but at the same time, that amp wasn't THAT loud :\
Your phone isn't meant to replace a high end video camera, lol. I have a ContourGPS race camera that I used all the time. The 720p was capable of 60fps and a wider angle than 1080p so I almost never used 1080p.
I forgot I had the mic sensors turned down, so if you actually want to watch the video put the volume up lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM2iPxNem0k
damn i think they came out pretty good. I havent check out the video cam yet...sweet dog too....I rescued a Lab/Rhodesian RidgeBack last year...
And don't even try recording on a high volume environment like a club. Sound really bad. Distorted. NOKIA n9 and iPhone 4 even wp7 sound from videos way way better quality. Every htc phone I owned sound from videos its been crap
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yeah, it's because the mic's are too sensitive and they record at suhc a low bitrate. my amp wasn't that loud, and there's serious frequency issues, it's like constantly readjusting to the frequency, even though my guitar tone/freq isn't changing.
etiher way i don't expect it to replace high end, but i do expect it to replace low end. my kodak is a cheap 40 dollar 720p crappy little camera, which records much better audio, but ****ty video...if you watch a few of my videos on there, i've done them with that camera, and you can hear how the audio is exponentially better, even though it's still crap.
in a phone where AUDIO IS THE SELLING POINT, why teh F would HTC screw this up so damn bad for the video camera? that's what pisses me off.
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Your phone isn't meant to replace a high end video camera, lol. I have a ContourGPS race camera that I used all the time. The 720p was capable of 60fps and a wider angle than 1080p so I almost never used 1080p.
I forgot I had the mic sensors turned down, so if you actually want to watch the video put the volume up lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM2iPxNem0k
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that's awesome dude. stang?
Yep, 04 Cobra, just traded it 3 weeks ago, I blew out all my control arm bushings that day, it was too hot to race on the setup I had. That was my 3rd heat, which is why you see me lose the rear end on the 2nd lap around turn 11.
But, even the mics on that camera suck ass. They positioned them on the front of the body, so exterior videos sound like **** without the sensor turned way down. I wouldn't expect a phone to be any better than a camera that is made specifically for high wind high volume sports.
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Wind examples....... disgusting
http://contour.com/stories/3rd-run
http://contour.com/stories/run-3--2
Nice, i knew a chick who had an 04 mystichrome cobra.
Yeah, Idk man. Thers gotta be a way to get better audio quality on this thing haha
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Only thing I can think is what you should already know being a musician! Fabricate some sort of insulating piece that can cover the mic. I just realized this phone doesn't have noise cancelling mics. The X2 had 3 mics.
wait, it doesn't? i thought it had 2 mics too?
AtLemacks said:
Your phone isn't meant to replace a high end video camera, lol. I have a ContourGPS race camera that I used all the time. The 720p was capable of 60fps and a wider angle than 1080p so I almost never used 1080p.
I forgot I had the mic sensors turned down, so if you actually want to watch the video put the volume up lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM2iPxNem0k
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"Granny shifting, not double-clutching like you should"
hahahahaaha ok vin diesel
lol, was my first time ever on a road course and had no instructor to tell me what was up, I had only ever Auto-x and Drag raced prior... But I wasn't RPM matching, and that the issue initially, the bushings were all shot by that heat, there was no coming back for it. Double clutching is unnecessary.
added a couple more videos to OP; these ones are just video quality...turned sound off, and synced up with sound i recorded on my PC throuhg my usb guitar port. synced them together, so the audio/video sync isn't perfect
Dude, you are good as ****! lol I am JUST learning how to play. Bought my girl a guitar for Christmas too.
haha thanks man, i've been playing for like 11 years now lol..
what kinda gear do you have? what kind did ya get her?
know what else i noticed?
slow mo feature randomly just freezes up for a second and then starts again..i thought it was just how the video was on the phone, but nope, it's even on youtube...watch, you'll see what i mean. it's going along..just freezes for a sec or two..then starts again. ugh.
Just an Epiphone Special-II GT. I got her a Fender Acoustic, she is more serious about learning than I am lol.
I am trying the slow mo feature right now, I wonder if maybe it is the SD card Read/Write speed?
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Mine skipped on me too in 720p.
Incase anyone is interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la9pyLSI0jM
It looks great, I really like the capability of zooming while recording and close up AF. total file size was 90MB.
audio is amazing, no wind noise or anything.
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audio is amazing, no wind noise or anything.
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Yeah I just noticed now that you told me, all static noise is cut off. Sounds like i'm in a sound proofed room minus the birds chirping lol.
which could be credited to the top mic which filters out noise. very cool indeed.
Yeah i did a vid last night of my little one rolling around on floor squealing. Played back video (audio was amazing crisp) and all of a sudden i heard the birds from outside the open door chirping. Just amazing how far our flip phones have come!
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The zoom in feature is awesome!
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I made a short video yesterday while driving to pick up my son from day care. The noise cancellation is incredible - I barely hear any engine noise. You can also kinda see the image stabilization at work when I had my hand resting on top of the steering wheel while holding the phone. The bumps aren't quite as jarring as they seem like they should be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKU6yDbINE
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I made a short video yesterday while driving to pick up my son from day care. The noise cancellation is incredible - I barely hear any engine noise. You can also kinda see the image stabilization at work when I had my hand resting on top of the steering wheel while holding the phone. The bumps aren't quite as jarring as they seem like they should be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKU6yDbINE
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Very nice demo...the road looks smoother than it "felt" as I almost fell asleep to the gentle rocking and background music. Pretty impressed so far, hopefully get a call tonight about a pending cancellation of a preorder, next on the list.
Post any videos you've made with the phone! i'm currently working on some..i tend to do guitar videos on my youtube.
sadly, i'm not a fan of the G2 video camera.. it seems like it doesn't look as HD as it should to me. i just did a guitar video in my room..yes it's dark out, but i had my ceiling light and another lamp on, but even then everything looked really soft and blurry and nothing focused well..on top of the fact that anything white is completely overblown so you have to drop the exposure down like crazy. all in all, i'd say the GS4 recorded better videos.
especially bc the G2 does that constant focusing crap that the rezound did..where it's like, pulsating for some reason. weird.
post your videos!
here's the videos i did..i'm not happy with them whatsoever. the audio is bad, the constant focusing is terrible.
used audio focus on this..absolutley no difference lol i focused it on the amp, but yeah, i don't see any difference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0SvRXoumHQ&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVDibA2u-7M&feature=youtu.be
this one sounds worse with more garbling..also, i did this one at 60fps, but youtube won't show it obv
tip for 60fps: the FPS drops really low when in low light situations..so don't expect 60fps in low light! you have to be in ample lighting for it to work correctly!