Im currently on KF1 stock but rooted, what happens if I update via kies when a new firmware comes out?
Will I be able to update and then lose root? What happens with my sgs2 if I install rom manager and flash clockwork? I read somewhere that they're not compatible and will cause problems so I haven't really tried. TY
Usually when you update you lose root, yes.
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I have a sgs2 and rooted it with odin oneclick... now i cant upgrade to the latest firmware.. i think it's 2.3.4 (or if there is an even newer version out now) since it's rooted, can anyone help me out how to do this upgrade (to latest firmware) the easy way so i dont loose anything on the phone.
My current kernel is 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKDD-CL161513.........
Build number gingerbread xwke2 if this info helps..
Im would be very happy if someone would be so kind and help me with this, thanks in advance for any help.
Can you not use kies? Should still be able to use it rooted.
Root has nothing to do with KIES upgrades... If KIES says "This is the latest firmware" then it is indeed the latest firmware for your country/code... 2.3.4 is not yet released officially to many countries and country codes yet...
If you flashed somewhat BETA or custom ROM you get error like "You cannot upgrade this" or something similiar to that...
I get a error failure report, and to try using kies or something else. I tried doing the upgrade on the phone directly, checking for updates and downloading and installing, but everytime i get this error failure report
My phone is unlocked, and now i flashed it with original kernel to remove that annoying ! mark in bootup, so now i dont have a unsecure kernel any longer... but even with this original kernel now i couldnt upgrade the firmware using only the phone
Is it a must to use kies ? if so i will try it, cause i have a working kies on one computer. I just thought i could do it directly on the phone under checking for updates, but that way dont work for me.
So it does not matter if my phone is rooted when i want to update my firmware to newer like 2.3.4 or newer ?
You can just grab a stock rom from the thread in original dev and flash it via odin, kg6 is a good 2.3.4 rom, kh1 and 3 are a bit unknown at the moment.
Your best bet is to flash cf root on your phone, take a nandroid backup via it, use titanium backup or equivalent for your user apps and user app data (and some system data, as shown in green in the app) and do a full wipe, flash the new stock, and restore using titanium or equivalent.
The nandroid is a snapshot of your phone at the time, which will allow you to roll back to a known good point at any time.
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No rooting wont effect kies. Try Kies first, See if indeed there is a update available to you. Like the previous poster said 2.3.4 is not available in all countries yet...
If your desperate to update you can use odin to upgrade the firmware instead..but that will wipe all data on your phone, so you will have to use Titatium Backup first. But if I were you I'd just use kies, and wait for the official update in your country.
Hmm if you can't update with KIES and you don't want to wipe then your best bet is to flash with ODIN with one of the frankenstien firmwares provided at one of the threads in the original development forum.
It did worked using kies on my computer, but it's still 2.3.3... guess it updated something minor then.
Thanks everyone for your help !
Does anyone know if i can remove the question mark in bootup and still be able to overclock the phone ?
boarne71 said:
It did worked using kies on my computer, but it's still 2.3.3... guess it updated something minor then.
Updates are as and when the provider of the phone updates the firmware .
They do not use all Samsung updates and often push them out much later .
Does anyone know if i can remove the question mark in bootup and still be able to overclock the phone
Yes via the instructions in root thread
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Or by using the USB jig .
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I know after root i can flash with the original, but that seams to remove the possibility to overclock the device but the root are still there after flashing with original.
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I know after root i can flash with the original, but that seams to remove the possibility to overclock the device but the root are still there after flashing with original.
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No you flash root then flash original wipes root .
You would be better to find an overclocking rom and work from the instructions there .
jje
It's flashing the kernel im talking about. When rooting a phone you flash the phone with a unsecure kernel, then after it's rooted you can flash it back to original kernel so the "!" mark wont show in bootup.
Now i wounder how to do that and still keep the overclocking feature, anyone know how to do that ?
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It's flashing the kernel im talking about. When rooting a phone you flash the phone with a unsecure kernel, then after it's rooted you can flash it back to original kernel so the "!" mark wont show in bootup.
Or ue the USB jig .
Now i wounder how to do that and still keep the overclocking feature, anyone know how to do that
If the overclocking features are part of the kernel then flashing original kernel replaces the kernel that has the overclocking features .
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Yes that was what o thought Thanks everyone so much for all your help!!
I guess i just have to live with this "!" mark on bootup, no big deal
Look at chainfires post number 2 on this thread to remove triangle and still keep insecure kernal here
I rooted my phone a few months back, purely for backing up purposes etc so I still have the stock firmware etc. I just checked for updates and it is saying there is a firmware update available. It downloads and goes through the install process but doesn't actually change anything, when I check for updates it informs me again that the update is there.
Is this because I have rooted my phone or is there another issue? Should I avoid installing updates when my phone is rooted? I'm not really fussed about CFW at the moment, I just like the root to have that little bit more access.
Thanks
If you install an OTA update, you will loose root.
You can check if its root or the update might not been downloaded correctly by using Kies with the USB cable.
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If you install an OTA update, you will loose root.
You can check if its root or the update might not been downloaded correctly by using Kies with the USB cable.
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Thanks,
I don't mind losing the root so much, as I guess I can just re-root it? What I'm finding strange is that the update just plain didn't do anything lol. Kernel version is the same, gingerbread version is the same and firmware version is the same.
Hey guys,
I am not new to the rooting or CWM scene but I like to double check these things with different phone models just in case as I do not want an expensive brick, especially with the S3 as I am looking to get one of these bad boys.
My question is, If I root/Install CWM will this cause issues with OTA updates or updates through Samsung Kies ? Or once an Update is installed would I simply need to re-root and install CWM again ?
I was taking a look at this thread and it bought my question to mind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488
I would for now like to stick to the Stock Roms and just want to be aware of the consequences of having Root/CWM and Updating my phone.
Cheers guys.
If you root, your device status will show as "Modified," and you won't get OTA updates.
Not a big deal as long as XDA is up and running, IMO. You'll get update here faster than you'll get them OTA anyway in nearly all cases.
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If you root, your device status will show as "Modified," and you won't get OTA updates.
Not a big deal as long as XDA is up and running, IMO. You'll get update here faster than you'll get them OTA anyway in nearly all cases.
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Ahh right, what about CWM ? As you say, even if I cannot Update OTA or through Kies I can use Odin. I guess I just need to find out about installing any updates with CWM installed, Though I should imagine nothing will happen as the stock recovery would be put back and I would simply have to install CWM again but any further info would be great
Thanks !
panzerscope said:
Ahh right, what about CWM ? As you say, even if I cannot Update OTA or through Kies I can use Odin. I guess I just need to find out about installing any updates with CWM installed, Though I should imagine nothing will happen as the stock recovery would be put back and I would simply have to install CWM again but any further info would be great
Thanks !
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If you use desktop Odin to flash, you'll lose the custom recovery and be reverted to stock recovery. You'll likely need to relfash the recovery again as well as root, unless the ROM you flash via Odin is pre-rooted.
Mobile Odin will allow you to flash the tar file and keep root, recovery, etc. 99% of the time, I use mobile Odin for stock ROMs these days.
Hello.
I am currently on Stock firmware 4.1.1, Build No. I9300XXDLJ1.
The phone is rooted and I want to upgrade to 4.1.2 without losing any data. Is this possible? I will flash Siyah after installing 4.1.2 to reobtain root but I'm a little confused as to how to update the phone without losing any of my data. Do I need to unroot first?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
update via Odin or Kies. You will lose root
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update via Odin or Kies. You will lose root
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Can I just flash the latest stock UK rom on top (via Odin) and not lose any data?
Just like he wrote, just use odin, it will work. BUT ALWAYS HAVE A BACKUP!
use rootkeeper.
hey everyone, im looking to root just to be able to run a certin app i need. If i root can i still get stock OTA updates? I really dont want to put a custom rom or unstable rom on.
Yes you'll still get ota updates but you'll most likely lose root if you take the update. You can root on the most recent update though (nk2), just upgrade via Odin and flash ne6 (stock) kernel, root with towel root, then flash back the nk2 kernel, here's instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2909352
Warrior 3000 said:
hey everyone, im looking to root just to be able to run a certin app i need. If i root can i still get stock OTA updates? I really dont want to put a custom rom or unstable rom on.
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Normally the update will download if you are rooted, but when it tries to install it errors out. But I don't have a problem with that because I'd rather watch the update for a while to see what it does and if it has any issues. Then I can odin the update when I determine it looks like there are no issues and it doesn't add any additional restrictions I don't was to live with. At that point I use mobile odin to update and keep root at the same time.