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Does anyone know how the 3D effect on the Evo will compare to the 3DS?
I was playing around with the 3DS yesterday was very impressed with some of the effects. Particularly the augmented reality cards. It really makes you realize the potential 3D effects and a camera possess.... it's practically a hologram.
Yeah, the ol' lady is pretty "excited" about the potential behind the 3D camera.
What I am concerned about is the 3D quality. From the previews I saw everyone said it was spot on. However, I've heard mixed reviews in regards to the 3DS screen having a limited 'sweet spot' of view. I have not seen a 3DS yet.
Also, I am pretty sure that the 3D aspect, on the Evo, can only be viewed in landscape, and only to the left landscape at that. Dunno if that is controlled on the software end or if that is a limitation due to the screen technology. Either way, I hope it is closer to viewing a glasses-less 3D TV because those are legit.
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Yeah, the ol' lady is pretty "excited" about the potential behind the 3D camera.
What I am concerned about is the 3D quality. From the previews I saw everyone said it was spot on. However, I've heard mixed reviews in regards to the 3DS screen having a limited 'sweet spot' of view. I have not seen a 3DS yet.
Also, I am pretty sure that the 3D aspect, on the Evo, can only be viewed in landscape, and only to the left landscape at that. Dunno if that is controlled on the software end or if that is a limitation due to the screen technology. Either way, I hope it is closer to viewing a glasses-less 3D TV because those are legit.
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I went into gamestop today and messed with the 3ds a little bit.. It was actually really good. Yes there is sweet spot's notice how it's plural.. Basically right in front of it or looking from the sides.. But it's hardly noticeable for a bad spot.. I found that overall it's really good and if the EVO 3d is that way, were on a great direction!
i think the quality is much better because the resolution is qhd and the screen self is bigger than the nintendo 3ds screen and the price of the phone is higher so i aspect the overall quality is very good.
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i think the quality is much better because the resolution is qhd and the screen self is bigger than the nintendo 3ds screen and the price of the phone is higher so i aspect the overall quality is very good.
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Well price and quality aren't necessarily the same thing.
I'm not a big fan of the 3D thing. I tired 3DS in bestbuy. After 5 mins playing, I got dizzy.
Tried out the 3DS for the first time today. Almost unusable and the screen quality was similar to 3D magazine covers I saw 20 years ago - in other words, pathetically bad.
Maybe it was just my eyes, but no matter the angle I held the 3DS at, I couldn't get the 3D effect to remain constant.
I hope that the EVO 3D is FAR FAR FAR FAR more refined than this POS. I would assume so since it is a much better screen, but we'll see. The 3DS was starting to already give me a headache after about 20 seconds.
P.S., Nintendo, what the heck is with the build quality of this device? It looks like someone put it together from used parts circa 1970 in their garage. Utter fail IMHO.
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Well price and quality aren't necessarily the same thing.
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Case in point: Apple products.
mitchellvii said:
Tried out the 3DS for the first time today. Almost unusable and the screen quality was similar to 3D magazine covers I saw 20 years ago - in other words, pathetically bad.
Maybe it was just my eyes, but no matter the angle I held the 3DS at, I couldn't get the 3D effect to remain constant.
I hope that the EVO 3D is FAR FAR FAR FAR more refined than this POS. I would assume so since it is a much better screen, but we'll see. The 3DS was starting to already give me a headache after about 20 seconds.
P.S., Nintendo, what the heck is with the build quality of this device? It looks like someone put it together from used parts circa 1970 in their garage. Utter fail IMHO.
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I have a 3ds and have had no problems. No headaches I can lock into 3D no problem. I don't know what your problem was. Or is it someone hates ninty?
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Tried out the 3DS for the first time today. Almost unusable and the screen quality was similar to 3D magazine covers I saw 20 years ago - in other words, pathetically bad.
Maybe it was just my eyes, but no matter the angle I held the 3DS at, I couldn't get the 3D effect to remain constant.
I hope that the EVO 3D is FAR FAR FAR FAR more refined than this POS. I would assume so since it is a much better screen, but we'll see. The 3DS was starting to already give me a headache after about 20 seconds.
P.S., Nintendo, what the heck is with the build quality of this device? It looks like someone put it together from used parts circa 1970 in their garage. Utter fail IMHO.
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Agreed. Looks horrible.. Did you notice how long it took to up the res on the screens? And its still horrible... I just saw a game on a dsi.. and the graphics were so pix lated it was ridiculous.
I hope they change the evo3d to a slider like the 3ds, that helps with the headaches ppl get change the depth a little and its easier to focus, from what I've seen the evos just gonna be a switch, a slider would be much better
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I hope they change the evo3d to a slider like the 3ds, that helps with the headaches ppl get change the depth a little and its easier to focus, from what I've seen the evos just gonna be a switch, a slider would be much better
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From what i understand the switch on the side of the evo 3d will be for switching the camera from 2d to 3d only, and didn't have anything to do with the screen.(if some where else say other wise please post link, would love to see that)
I hope they have some sort slider (maybe in the setting some where) that does work like the slider on 3ds. I saw the 3ds at best buy and i was impressed, but different strokes for different folks.
How do u guys think the Evo 3D still pictures will compare in quality to the original Evo?
I know megapixels isn't everything, and of course I'm talking only about 2D stills, but I'm wondering if the still pictures from the 3D will be better
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They better be because the evos camera was garbage no lie
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They better be because the evos camera was garbage no lie
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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Hmm, I am sure there are MANY people that would take offense to that.How is photography any less of a profession then any other job? I would like to see you even come close to some of the pictures professionals can take. The cameras crap on it...
yeah those nokia cameras are ****ing sweet
I wonder why they didn't put dual 8mp on the back, instead of the dual 5mp it's got now?
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I wonder why they didn't put dual 8mp on the back, instead of the dual 5mp it's got now?
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Because MP have nothing to do with quality? It's how big it can be printed out, and to be honest you can't print a 3D picture, so yeah.
They did however mention that the cameras have a CMOS sensor (the sensor is what creates quality, MP have nothing to do with it) so I have extremely high hopes for this camera. If it does what I'm expecting it'll be my upgrade path most likely.
HTC usually either has hits or miss on the camera. Well just have to wait and see.
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Because MP have nothing to do with quality? It's how big it can be printed out, and to be honest you can't print a 3D picture, so yeah.
They did however mention that the cameras have a CMOS sensor (the sensor is what creates quality, MP have nothing to do with it) so I have extremely high hopes for this camera. If it does what I'm expecting it'll be my upgrade path most likely.
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Yea your right. My hd2 is only 5mp and it takes really good photos. Was just wondering why they decided with 5mp, when the evo has 8mp.
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Yea your right. My hd2 is only 5mp and it takes really good photos. Was just wondering why they decided with 5mp, when the evo has 8mp.
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Two 8mp images per 3d picture is probably why. 5mp will take enough space as it is.
That and the thing is... there really is no way currently to have a "great" 8 mp camera on a phone, with a lens/ sensor that small.
Yea the reason for 5mp instead of dual 8mp has to do with image/video file size more than likely.
As for the Evo 1 camera, is have to say its the first phone camera I even considered replacing my real camera with. I have a 12mp ~$200 Sony camera that I never use. 4x6 prints look just as good on both. The Sony handles low light better, but its not worth carrying an extra device
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i dont really care about an upgrade to the camera, as i find it is decent enough for its usability and quality
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they better work on that damned flash....while my pictures are good on the evo, at night everyone is a ghost
The new cmos sensor captures twice as much light in low light situations
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The new cmos sensor captures twice as much light in low light situations
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You got specs to back that up?
i want the camera to be noticeably better then iphone4
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its all settings, I've seen good n bad on both
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i want the camera to be noticeably better then iphone4
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its all settings, I've seen good n bad on both
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lol. In all the pictures i have seen comparing the two, the evo has been worse.
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I disagree. The Evo 1's camera is adequate and even better than my 4 year old camera. I take pictures exclusively with it now and they look pretty damn good.
Granted, I'd never spend $1500 on a freaking camera and you might be one of those "photographer" types (i put that in quotes because I don't consider that a real profession, merely a hobby that people get paid for) who believe that an 8mp cell phone camera should look like an 8mp nokia whatever-x5000. It's a cell phone, the camera is more a convenience. Considering 5 years ago, pictures with a cell phone looked like an 8-bit video games, I'd say they're making fantastic and amazing headway on itty bitty tiny mobile cameras.
On that note, since it's a year later and technology has improved, the Evo 3d really should have a better camera than an Evo 4g. Especially since the camera is a key feature in the new hardware.
From what I've seen in review videos (also taking into account that I'm not getting the full experience through a camera), the pictures have a pretty good quality, but I'd have to see them in person to accurately judge them.
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My 2cents on this:
Photography is an art, just like painting, tattoos, piercings, acting (stage and TV) and have all been around for as long as history has been written (except for the acting on TV of course). But to talk about getting paid for a hobby, lets now include sports (ALL Sports) and these are also considered "hobbies" but these people get paid more than doctors, engineers, lawyers, etc. You don't complain about them though.
About the camera, like said before....its a phone, 5MP is awesome AND IT HAS TWO. For daily use, it should/will get the job done. If your a "professional" D) then you would not even consider using the phone for your work. It's called convenience and it's why you pay $700 for a phone that can play movies, pictures, search the web, play low quality game (that can be addictive), TEXT, have a camera and flashlight with you at all times, GPS (all this on a relatively small screen) and I guess make a call.
Don't discriminate!
I'm a massive fan of the EVO and am pre-ordering the 3D immediately. That being said, the EVO 1 pictures aren't as good as the Iphones. In Outdoor, sunny situations they are excellent but indoors they suck compare to the iphone. Also, the flash handling really is garbage, I'm always trying to adjust the white balance to account for it or take my picture slightly further back etc etc. It's just ****ty and then I see my brother iPhone 4 pics using OOTB settings taking the same stupid picture of our family at the table and its way better.
I would really like to see some information stating that the CMOS sensor is 2x as good...it certainly better be!!
Another note, the iPhone 4 video is a WORLD above the EVO in lower light. It embarrassing. I brag about my phone but then can't use the video from a basketball game because its indoors and again...brothers iPhone videos look pretty good.
A side note, can't stand apple and their draconian koolaid they sell all the schmucks on
Camera Quality
I've found that when were dealing with pictures in natural lighting, the results are absolutely AMAZING, but when it comes to low light, darkness and requiring the flash, that is when the coloring was off and blurry etc. i would expect the same from the new camera just as basically every phone cam i've seen.
I really really hope the camera is better than the evo 4g Im really tired of all my friends taking perfect pictures and videos with their iphones while my evo only takes good pictures of nonmoving things in daylight and audio from video is absolutely horrible. I go to concerts all the time and have a 12k dj setup and while my iphone friends can take perfect audio and video of both, i have to wait for them to send me the vids they took. And have to get them to send me pics from all the events we go to because my camera cant handle low light or people that dont stand completely still. This will be the issue that makes or breaks it for me. Anyone know if it will be better? And carrying a "real" camera with everyday for my day to day pictures isnt an option.
Been an HTC user for years, really hoping i can continue
I'm with you there. I was at possibly the last Pink Floyd concert and all my pictures came out like ****.
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I'm with you there. I was at possibly the last Pink Floyd concert and all my pictures came out like ****.
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You lucky man! Man I would die to see Floyd, I missed him on his Pulse tour in the States
If you watch the wirefly review of the phone the guy states his wife is a professional photographer and she had a chance to use the camera on the Evo3D and said that it was her new favorite camera.
Now I don't know if she is really a professional or she just liked to take 3D pictures but it's a start.
Im mean, 3D is kinda cool, but i hope they got closer to perfecting normal pics and vid before deciding to take on 3D. But stranger things have def happened!
maybe im the only person that thinks its a huge issue, but it is my biggest issue by far, especially when so much emphasis is put on the cameras! Like the amazing 8mp camera on the evo 4g that sucks A$$$$$$$$$
I too am hoping for this. I hate that the 5 mega pixel camera on my wifes epic blows the evo 4g out of the water. It is truely a piece of ****.
I think you guys are hard on the ol 4g I've taken some real nice pics with mine..as long as its well lit .but the review shots looked great I'm excited
I think it will be okay for stills but suck anus otherwise. Well light stills that is.
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Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
How did the screen look? Some reviews say it looks like poo because of it being 3D. I think that shouldn't be the case.
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So how does the pic you took with 3D compare to Ur 4G?
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Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
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goldt said:
Was at the sprint store yesterday and they let me play with EVO 3D.
First impressions:
Feels solid, just like the EVO 4G.
Shutter button is awesome and auto focus is very fast.
Pictures and videos taken in 3D did not look 3D and kept changing under different angles.
The Green Hornet in 3D was amazing, it actually looked 3D.
I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
Finally i wanted to compare 2D pictures to my EVO and so i emailed one to myself and here it is.
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Thanks for this thread! Finally, not a thread from some POS attention whore. The pic looks great and I just may push my wife into getting a 3D as well. She was planning to get the OG EVO upgrading from a BB Curve
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I don't understand why pictures taken with the phone don't look like the preloaded movie, which makes me think that the screen itself is capable of playing 3D content its just that the camera is not a true 3D camera.
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Because the movie was captured with professional 3D equipment. The Evo 3D is true 3D, all you need are 2 cameras, just like you have 2 eyeballs on your head. The problem with having 2 fixed cameras though, is that they cannot pivot (like your eyeballs) in order to compensate for the distance between the cameras and the subject, so the 3D/depth perception will not always be that good, especially for closeups.
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Thanks for this thread! Finally, not a thread from some POS attention whore. The pic looks great and I just may push my wife into getting a 3D as well. She was planning to get the OG EVO upgrading from a BB Curve
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I agree, the pic does look quite nice ... even though I see plenty evidence of compression losses, that's not the camera's fault and can be easily fixed in the settings.
Thanks OP. I was having a hard time believing that HTC couldn't get a 5MP camera to take a decent pic.
Will be interesting to see how Vignette performs on the phone. By far, the superior camera app, because it limits compression.
The two cameras are too close together for the 3D effect to be as visible as what the movies are. Ideally they would be as far apart as both your eyes are but that's not very practical on a cell phone. The picture there looks pretty good to me though, not as good as what my DSLR can do but the lenses alone for that thing are more than that phone costs.
i'm not worried as much about the megapixel part of the camera or even the 3d portion... i just want it to be clear and the color right.
my evo 4g takes clear pictures but the colors are way off.
here's a picture of my bike taken with my EVO:
and here's what it really looks like...taken with a older Nikon point and shoot:
ps: thanks for snagging a picture with the phone though. the color looks better than my evo.... it does look grainy though.
Second picture is just about as good as the Samsung Epic 4G camera.
First picture is random (was going to look up what type of plant it was) and second picture is my friend's dock.
These look very similar to the quality of EVO 3D's camera.
samsung phone camera's do kick ass.. as a matter of fact the second pic of mine could have been taken with my old moment. too bad the rest of the samsung phone isn't as good as the camera.
this is a pic with my old Moment:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3kACqfLKhhFAPSAGYG6PNPBysbpwLdvsPkUAoJFAq4I?feat=directlink
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samsung phone camera's do kick ass.. as a matter of fact the second pic of mine could have been taken with my old moment. too bad the rest of the samsung phone isn't as good as the camera.
this is a pic with my old Moment:
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Yep, I have some amazing shots with my Vibrant
Yeah my moms epic camera is way better than my EVO.
I noticed your in a Sprint store. Anyone know when they will be up for display? I assume not until the 24th? I think I want to see the phone in person before I decide.
I honestly do think that HTC is not as good as samsung probably when it comes to writing software. I honestly do believe that software customizations that samsung makes are probably much better than HTC.
Touchwiz is much more buggy than sense imo. Samsung just uses better sensors for their cameras
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goldt said:
the camera is not a true 3D camera.
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agh i wish htc just paid samsung for their camera sensors, it would make the 3D perfect. (well close enough). Or they could take out all the 3D, and just made the battery huge
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agh i wish htc just paid samsung for their camera sensors, it would make the 3D perfect. (well close enough). Or they could take out all the 3D, and just made the battery huge
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Their sensors are good, it's their optics and post processing that hurt the pictures.
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Their sensors are good, it's their optics and post processing that hurt the pictures.
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then htc needs to stop putting 10 layers on their damned lenses and keep one good GLASS layer that’s not protrududing from the damned phone so it gets frekin scratched.
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The evo 4g has the same sensor as the iphone4 IIRC....the lense and software not so much
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Hey guys! Just wanted to post a few videos of some extremely loud events I've had the chance to attend. Any other phone (or midrange video camera) that I've ever seen has taken decent videos but the sound quality has been awful.
Anyways, here's a video of some (2D) fireworks from last night:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/upxdeIgX-DoVgpZe6qFB3g?feat=directlink
And a 3D clip from the NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Road America a few weekends ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_qnavY3ZbE
Hardly any distortion, especially for a phone! I'm super happy with it.
I'm impressed.. Gonna do the same with my phone tonight and see how it turns out.
Totally agree OP. Great firework vid!
FINALLY - Apple/iPhail have absolutely nothing to brag about. - top notch camcorder on this phone!