Perplexed by this. What would account for it? - HTC EVO 3D

I know its been mentioned before that the Evo 4G is faster on 3G downloading data than Evo 3D.
It seemed that way to me but I wanted to test it out.
Went to Sprint store and simultaneously downloaded at least 30 sites on 3G.
Sure enough...4G was faster in all but 1!!! (Maybe 3 ties)...all others 4G usually significantly faster. (Check it out).
Same tower. Same saturation. Same proximity.
Bugs the crap outta me!
Interestingly, 3D was WAY faster on the Speedtest...like 12-1300kbps to 300/400 for the 4G. (Did this one 3-4 times).
Just really curious as to what might account for this...
(Btw..already have (just the http) proxies changed).

Is it possible that the screen resolution has something to do with this?
Most of my games dont fill up the screen but I know that they have to update the app inorder to optimize for the phone.

Could be the radios. Keep in mind that the 4G has updated radios that are fine tuned over time. The 3D hasn't had its radios updated as much.

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Is it possible that the screen Resolution has something to do with this?
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Nope
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DDiaz007 said:
Could be the radios. Keep in mind that the 4G has updated radios that are fine tuned over time. The 3D hasn't had its radios updated as much.
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That's my only hope...
...though I am suspicious of HTC trying to stay low on the phone-radiation-list...and I'm sure battery life also plays into it.
Screw that, I'm used to beating this battery dead and recharging, give me a checkbox for 'high performance extra radiation plox'

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Poor GPS performance

The GPS in my 3D is very weak. Even outside it does not lock well and the accuracy is poor. I tried using GPS Status app and re-initializing the data, which helped a little, but it is still poor. My EVO 4G locks almost immediaty under the same conditions. Any ideas?
I also have this issue, but it's not everywhere. The first week I got it, I was using the GPS in Detroit, and if the phone wasn't right by the windshield, GPS signal would be lost and it would have a tough time acquiring my location again until I put it up past the steering wheel, and even then, it had the little radius circle showing where I "approximately" was. I was really frustrated with that because it defeats the whole purpose of having GPS in a phone. My OG EVO never had this problem.
I tried it again around where I live in SW Michigan and it was perfectly fine in my lap. No radius, just a dead on lock. Not sure why it was having issues in Detroit.
I just tried it again. EVO 4G = immediate lock. 3D = no lock. It sees some sats, but after 1 min, no lock. WTF?
Same here I keep losing signal and searching forgps.. god its pissing me off .feels like I'm using an iPhone on ATT
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red man said:
Same here I keep losing signal and searching forgps.. god its pissing me off .feels like I'm using an iPhone on ATT
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LOL
Time for us to buy iPads I guess.
And I got a xoon guess ipads and iphones.
It upsets me that they put out somany devices yet they can't seem to fix any problems .
Speaker vol sucks
Gps sucks
Music playback sucks
4G sucks
No unlock bootrom
Battery life gotten better
Screen is alright (no retna display)
The phone is a downgrade from my EVO if it wasn't for the battery life I would have returned it
My main reason behind an android device is Gps and tether . If none of them work properly I might as well buy a iPhone it has better app support
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red man said:
And I got a xoon guess ipads and iphones.
It upsets me that they put out somany devices yet they can't seem to fix any problems .
Speaker vol sucks
Gps sucks
Music playback sucks
4G sucks
No unlock bootrom
Battery life gotten better
Screen is alright (no retna display)
The phone is a downgrade from my EVO if it wasn't for the battery life I would have returned it
My main reason behind an android device is Gps and tether . If none of them work properly I might as well buy a iPhone it has better app support
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GPS works fine for me.
What about music playback sucks? I haven't noticed any issues.
Bootloader will be unlocked and this isn't really something that needs fixed.
Do you know what resolution the screen would have to be to be >300 ppi? Problem is: HTC doesn't make a 1080x720 4.3" screen, in fact, no one does. Not yet at least. Take your pick: 4.3" or 300+ ppi
Not sure how its a downgrade.
If its so bad then why don't you get an iPhone? You can tether with a jailbroken iPhone and there are plenty of apps to provide turn by turn GPS navigation. Sounds like thats what you really want, so you should stop wasting your time with a phone that in your eyes is not good enough and go get one.
Bc I'm tired of feeding into apples gimmics . But HTC could spend a little more time working out issues with the device . Like I said the reason I'm keeoind the device is my EVO was best to death the battery lasts me the whole day and the processor is faster .. but if the iPhone was on sprint i would probably get it no way in hell I'm paying 100+ for my phone bill
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Oh and the GPS does suck !!!!!! It loses signal all the time
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For me it locked in under 10 seconds ( first time using GPS using GPS Status in my Car ) and accuracy was 5m. So its way faster than my N1 and way way way way faster than my Vibrant / Galaxy S
GPS on the 3vo is significantly worse than the 4G. The 3vo is slower to lock, significantly less accurate, and looses lock fairly often. It works better in Google Maps than other location apps, but is still relatively poor.
I brought the 3vo and 4G on a bike ride, and used Endomondo to track my ride. The 3vo was significantly less accurate than the 4G that was right next to it.
I hope they can fix the GPS issue (along with bluetooth connectivity, overheating, camera issues & radio issues I have experienced) in an update.
bigdaddie said:
The GPS in my 3D is very weak. Even outside it does not lock well and the accuracy is poor. I tried using GPS Status app and re-initializing the data, which helped a little, but it is still poor. My EVO 4G locks almost immediaty under the same conditions. Any ideas?
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The GPS in your 3D is not 'very weak'...lol.
Google Maps is still trying to 'drive your bus', (so to speak), I'd bet.
This is a 3 step process; at least it was for me:
1) Delete Data from Google Maps apk.
2) NOW, you can use the GPS status trick.
3) Most important: You MUST update your profile. I just made sure my prl was correct at this moment before doing so.
reboot, enjoy.
It may take a bit for the profile update to 'catch', but I know that my GPS locks pretty much immediately now....This will solve any 'my 3g signal sucks, now' issues you may have as well.
Lmk if this helped.
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Battery uses WAAAAAAAAAAY to much?

How the heck is it possible that while screen-off, my battery usage is between -401 and -495 mA? Is this normal? GSM version btw.
I had an android HD2, it uses average of -3mA
I know this sounds stupid, but have you installed any apps? HTC has said most battery drain issues are due to "bad" apps. Maybe do a nandroid, wipe data, and perform the same test from a stock clean ROM?
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A little ofd topic, but where tha heck u got the gsm version of the E3D??? Ive been dying to know!!!
-De Pü3rTøRr0 Puñetaaaaa!!
I got the gsm evo 3d here from Rogers 3 days ago. Battery was fine for the first two days. And now the battery is at 55% in 3 hours while it was I'm my pocket and not used for anything at all!!! Does not make sense.
Lol sounds like bad batteries or need to set a screen off profile.on set cpu
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Oh I think u guys aren't rooted yet right?
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Can't root GSM yet
sure you can
go to www.revolutionary.io
download it and bam enjoy
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sure you can
go to www.revolutionary.io
download it and bam enjoy
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Not for Rogers EVO yet....
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OP uses WA¹°Y too many vowels and caps for an OP. ;-)
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Might be an obvious question but do you have a Live Wallpaper enabled?
check your battery use in the settings. That'll help narrow what the cause is. Also keep an eye on your signal strength. Switching between roaming an not roaming takes a toll on the battery. Weaker signals also mean the phone is working harder to keep the signal. You can also go to Applications -> running services to see if anything instslled is keeping the phone awake.
Can you guys post some currentwidget readings of yourself?
Cause the lowest I get is 161, and my HD2 got to 3 or 4 most of the time..
Delano.888 said:
Can you guys post some currentwidget readings of yourself?
Cause the lowest I get is 161, and my HD2 got to 3 or 4 most of the time..
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Same here......i miss my hd2...=[
R.I.P. HD2 hello EVO 3D!!
Download CPU Spy from the market and see if your phone is able to go into DEEP SLEEP. if not, then remove 1 app/widget at a time till it does, voila, you found the rogue app!
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Can you guys post some currentwidget readings of yourself?
Cause the lowest I get is 161, and my HD2 got to 3 or 4 most of the time..
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Same exact problem here. My HD2 would use anywhere from 2-6 ma on idle with the screen off. This was running a non-sense ROM of course (CM7 or Vanilla 2.3).
My 3VO is still stock and it idles at anywhere from 40 to 300+ ma. It makes no sense. My HD2 got far better battery life with a much smaller battery.
I think once we get rid of stupid ass sense and get a clean AOSP/CM7 build, things will be much nicer.
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check your battery use in the settings. That'll help narrow what the cause is.
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This is where I'd also recommend you start
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This is where I'd also recommend you start
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That's all "normal" if you can call it that. Display taking up the most, but still in standby the readings are very high, but I guess sense does this seeing as more people have this problem..
battery help
are the battery watcher app/widgets good or bad ? im losing battery every min .. phone is rooted and .. the rom that i have people are saying there getting 10.5 hours .. wtf i want 10.5
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That's all "normal" if you can call it that. Display taking up the most, but still in standby the readings are very high, but I guess sense does this seeing as more people have this problem..
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Practically, how much is your battery life dropping? Example: 100% to 60% in 2 hours? And what was the phone used for in that duration.
For example, If I charge my CDMA EVO 3D to 100% at 9pm and unplug it and leave it idle overnight, it goes from 100% to 98% by 7am. So, on idle, it drops 2% in 10 hours.

low gps signal?

ive noticed i my gps signal constantly drops out while navigating and the only way to get it back, is to hold it in the dash with absolutly nothing blocking it overhead. With my OG evo, i did not have any issues whatsoever, always a strong signal. does anyone else have this problem? im considering replacing it, unless its just a software issue that may be fixed in the next firmware update.
Same issue here.
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Everyone's issue?
I want to love this phone but it seems im going to return it soon one i get it and get the optimus3d.
I do not want problems with any hardware or antenna.
I have some ideas. In /system/etc/gps.conf there are some lines that look like if changed would help. I changed the intermediate accuracy level to 100, and where it said disable.agps.in.wimax I changed that to false. It may also benefit to change the allowance if intermediate position to zero. And old hack we used to use was to add the line QOS_ACCURACY=16, but I think that's the same value hack as the one I just mentioned. Feel free to try these. I don't use gps much, so my modifications may go unnoticed. Ymmv
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I have some ideas. In /system/etc/gps.conf there are some lines that look like if changed would help. I changed the intermediate accuracy level to 100, and where it said disable.agps.in.wimax I changed that to false. It may also benefit to change the allowance if intermediate position to zero. And old hack we used to use was to add the line QOS_ACCURACY=16, but I think that's the same value hack as the one I just mentioned. Feel free to try these. I don't use gps much, so my modifications may go unnoticed. Ymmv
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I would love someone to try this out...i get my evo3d tuesday...if the gps cant be fixed im getting the optimus 3d...i do not like crap hardware. First i only expected to get a **** speaker with **** quality and low volume, but if the gps is also ****, then meh...the o3d doesnt have issueses at all.
borgqueenx said:
I would love someone to try this out...i get my evo3d tuesday...if the gps cant be fixed im getting the optimus 3d...i do not like crap hardware. First i only expected to get a **** speaker with **** quality and low volume, but if the gps is also ****, then meh...the o3d doesnt have issueses at all.
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Waaahhh. How in the living hell do you know that an UNRELEASED device has "no GPS issues" - for real. Also, have fun with the awesome monthly premium you'll get for AT&T and their awesome network If you can develop a little patience, I would tell you HTC has awesome build quality, and the dev support for this phone is great, so GPS will get better. Maybe not by tuesday, but sometime.
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Waaahhh. How in the living hell do you know that an UNRELEASED device has "no GPS issues" - for real. Also, have fun with the awesome monthly premium you'll get for AT&T and their awesome network If you can develop a little patience, I would tell you HTC has awesome build quality, and the dev support for this phone is great, so GPS will get better. Maybe not by tuesday, but sometime.
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I live in the netherlands where its already released and im getting it tuesday. Your posts doesnt make sense.
You cant improve hardware with software...you can tweak to make it work a bit better...but it doesmt chance the hardware...
well the thing is, i believe the gps hardware is just fine. its probably the same chip they use in other phones. hopefully were just a few tweaks away.
Same exact issue.
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My gps works fine
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Have had no gps problems here.
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k2buckley said:
Have had no gps problems here.
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do you use your Google navigation often? If its an issue thats not widespread, then ill probably just take my phone. I just dont feel like going through the hassle of getting a new phone if the refurb is going to have the same exact issues.
I have the same issue. Constantly losing GPS when I didn't have this issue before in my area on an Epic 4G. Sprint TeleNAV and Google NAV do it.
I’m an extremely heavy GPS user. I used my Evo as my GPS every day for work, and now my Evo 3D. In the year that I had the original Evo, not once did I have an issue. And by an extremely heavy user, I use it to locate 20-40 (depending on the day) locations a day, every day.
I bought the Evo 3D on launch day, for the first week or so the GPS worked great, it lost the signal once or twice, but I ignored it. Then one day it kept losing the signal a lot. I’m talking like 5 times in an 8 mile stretch on the same road. It started taking forever to recalculate, there was an extremely noticeable lag (it would say for example, my next action was a left turn 1.3 miles away when I already passed the road I was supposed to turn on to). Not only did the signal drop out while driving, but it would drop out while just being parked, and then it takes forever to require the signal. And my personal favorite when your five miles into a 17 mile long run ON THE SAME road/highway it will just randomly recalculate. What’s up with that? i assume these are the same type of issues everyone is having?
Now I took the phone back to the Sprint Store, I was within 30 days so they swapped it out for a band new one for free. The new phone worked great for about 2 weeks, and the same issues started happening, but a lot less frequently, it was tolerable, but so far this week it has been pure hell. This afternoon I lost count, but I was up to 157 instances (this week alone) where the GPS has lost the signal, rerouted me randomly or incorrectly, failed to properly update me of my next action, or just took forever to acquire the satellite signal. This week has been extremely aggravating, to say the least.
Here is one thing I noticed this afternoon, I’m not sure if this is just a fluke or what. I always keep my phone connected to a car charger when driving. For some reason I unhooked it and was running on battery, the GPS worked perfectly to get me from my last two stops of the day, back to work, a total of about 60 miles worth of driving. Not one drop out, not one bit of lag. Prior to that I couldn't go 5 miles without some type of problem. Tomorrow, I will be in an area I’m sort of familiar with and won’t need the GPS much, but I’m going to map out my stops anyway just see how it behaves on battery, until the battery gets low. That final 60 miles today took me from 100% to 55%.

Anyone interested in a 3g uncapper?

OK, I can definitely say I love my thunderbolt, but I hate the battery life. I find myself using 4g lte about 5% of the time I use my phone. It seems to be the major thing always killing my battery. I've tried everything from undervolting to never turning up my screen brightness and still turning off the 4g lte is the best way to go. Which brings me to a thread I stumbled upon in the Eris forums for a 3g uncapper. My curiosity got me wondering, so I asked CondemnedSoul if this would work for the t-bolt so we could get a boost in speed without our 4g lte. Needless to say he made a test to try out on liquid 3.0......and it worked better than I hoped! I went from 400 kbps to1400 kbps on average, with it peaking at 2200 kbps. That's a big jump to say the least. And on other phones it was causing a force close of network settings which didn't happen on my t-bolt, and no issues with 4g or adverse affects on battery life.
So my question to you is would this interest anyone else? I have a test for liquid 3.0 if anyone wants to try it out.
When I lived in OKC, I was able to pull around 2000kbps on 3G on my stock rooted t-bolt, and sometimes about 1500kbps in ATL, so I'm not sure how much help this would be...
needless to say, I'm willing to give it a shot.
I'd be interested in this since my area doesn't have LTE yet so I just turned it off
Wow....I only got maybe up to 600 on a constant before I tried this. I also live in a smaller city. Maybe I'll try it on a different ROM before this becomes a actual mod thread, just to make sure that it did make a difference. But that's why I posted this here first to make sure it was gonna work, and also make sure people were interested before I start making them.
the speeds you're getting with your 'uncapping' trick is about what I used to get here before 4G went live.
oddly though, I found the 3G speeds on my Incredible 2 to go a bit faster then on my Thunderbolt.
After reading your comments regarding the speeds you got, I retested both with and without the mod, and now i'm not getting a difference. Why I was getting so low of speeds when I initially tested this I don't know. It would have been better had I researched the average 3g speed before testing (sorry for the newb mistake). So back to square one, but this should work eventually as it works on a lot of devices. I'm really glad I opened this q and a post first instead of rolling out a mod that didn't work.

CM9 Radio question

Edit: Updated my radios, still having issues. More info in a thread below.
Hey all,
I recently started running leNoob CM9 mod, and I've noticed that my connection has bottomed out a bit. I normally would have 4-5 bars with little issue, now I'm lucky to have 1 or 2. I dropped a call earlier today, and I haven't had that happen in literal years.
Poking around I noticed there were radio versions better than what I'm currently using: (1.22.10.0421r, 1.22.10.0424r) but I'm completely unsure whether that's the problem here, or how to update them if it is.
I'm S-OFF, if that helps the solutions any.
Thanks for your time!
See the firmware thread in the dev section, you can update just your firmware/radios/etc and not have to run a RUU since you're s-off.
Shadowalker97 said:
Hey all,
I recently started running leNoob CM9 mod, and I've noticed that my connection has bottomed out a bit. I normally would have 4-5 bars with little issue, now I'm lucky to have 1 or 2. I dropped a call earlier today, and I haven't had that happen in literal years.
Poking around I noticed there were radio versions better than what I'm currently using: (1.22.10.0421r, 1.22.10.0424r) but I'm completely unsure whether that's the problem here, or how to update them if it is.
I'm S-OFF, if that helps the solutions any.
Thanks for your time!
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Yes, you can flash the hboot/radio combo by superchilpil, then flash a hacked hboot. Apophis has a thread with hex edited hboots.
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Yes, you can flash the hboot/radio combo by superchilpil, then flash a hacked hboot. Apophis has a thread with hex edited hboots.
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I was going to make another thread for this, but hey, I saw this one I made a few days ago and it came in handy.
Since the last time I posted I did the firmware upgrade to the 2.xx radios, but that sadly did not help my issues any. My data connection will randomly drop in any situation; indoors, outdoors, whatever. I can flip my phone to airplane mode and back to restore the data connection, and it usually instantly hits 4-5 bar 4G. Unfortunately, not long after that it'll drop to 1 bar and sometimes stabilize back up to 4-5 and stay there for awhile.
Other times, it'll drop to 3G, 1x, or turn off altogether. 95% of the time it will then just stay off until I reboot the phone or hit airplane mode. The rest of the time it'll come back into 3G or more commonly 1x and stay there until it repeats the above drop process.
I've had this problem on all of the CM9 mods I've tried (currently running Rage 1.2). I've tried various network modes but I've had the greatest success of getting any signal on the LTE/CDMA/EvDo/GSM/WCDMA setting; the LTE or CDMA / LTE only ever gets 1 bar ever, and never improves.
Before CM9 on Stock ICS I had 4-5 bars anywhere in my house, and even at work (the center of a very large building) I'd still have 2-3 bars and rock solid data connection. I have not yet tried going back to Stock to see if that fixes my issues, but I'm leaning that way unless anyone has some better options here.
Thanks for your time!
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I was going to make another thread for this, but hey, I saw this one I made a few days ago and it came in handy.
Since the last time I posted I did the firmware upgrade to the 2.xx radios, but that sadly did not help my issues any. My data connection will randomly drop in any situation; indoors, outdoors, whatever. I can flip my phone to airplane mode and back to restore the data connection, and it usually instantly hits 4-5 bar 4G. Unfortunately, not long after that it'll drop to 1 bar and sometimes stabilize back up to 4-5 and stay there for awhile.
Other times, it'll drop to 3G, 1x, or turn off altogether. 95% of the time it will then just stay off until I reboot the phone or hit airplane mode. The rest of the time it'll come back into 3G or more commonly 1x and stay there until it repeats the above drop process.
I've had this problem on all of the CM9 mods I've tried (currently running Rage 1.2). I've tried various network modes but I've had the greatest success of getting any signal on the LTE/CDMA/EvDo/GSM/WCDMA setting; the LTE or CDMA / LTE only ever gets 1 bar ever, and never improves.
Before CM9 on Stock ICS I had 4-5 bars anywhere in my house, and even at work (the center of a very large building) I'd still have 2-3 bars and rock solid data connection. I have not yet tried going back to Stock to see if that fixes my issues, but I'm leaning that way unless anyone has some better options here.
Thanks for your time!
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I've also been seeing the exact same issue with my signal but since flashing the Global RUU and Rage. Previously I was on older radios and NeoMax and had high performance on the signals and battery life. Battery life has also dropped significantly since the Global RUU and Rage. :/
neowisdom1031 said:
I've also been seeing the exact same issue with my signal but since flashing the Global RUU and Rage. Previously I was on older radios and NeoMax and had high performance on the signals and battery life. Battery life has also dropped significantly since the Global RUU and Rage. :/
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In Rage 1.2 at least, my screen-off battery life is almost bulletproof. 8 hours not on the charger and it only lost 3%. Screen-on time though is almost exactly the same as Stock, and that includes going to the Wheatley governor, sio, underclocking the CPU and cranking the screen brightness way down.
As far as the radio issue goes, somewhere in the Rage thread Neo mentioned that radios on AOSP roms atm are hit and miss; some people have no problems, some people have constant problems. Currently there's really nothing they can do about it IIRC, and we'll basically just have to wait until someone can pin down the problem. Either that or go back to a Sense based rom, to which I say, phooey!
Try flashing a ruu then doing a factory reset in hboot after before restoring recovery. Worked for me
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EFF that that. Don't ever do anything that touches hboot.
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scottspa74 said:
EFF that that. Don't ever do anything that touches hboot.
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Factory reset only wipes data....
And an ruu likely won't flash if it is corrupted.
Just check md5 anyway, as always.
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