[Q] Video playback - is Samsung lying or not? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
just have watched this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlLP3RXkmUQ&feature=player_embedded#at=330
watch and read info that is displayed between 5:05 and 5:30.
And how does it compare to capabilities of good old GT 7"? ;-)

new update with touchwiz should update drivers for smooth playback....i'm curious to know this too

So, whoever gets TouchWiz first please report ;-).
If at least there would be an Netflix app for SGT 10.1 that would help a lot... but with both playback possibilities not really working it is far from being a proper multimedia device ;-) (but looks great).
Funny thing is that Archos (coming soon...) might be a black horse here with Omap 4 on board and competitive price.
This looks very interesting although tablets themselves are truly ugly
http://androidcommunity.com/archos-...ideo-has-great-viewing-angles-video-20110627/
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...tflix-certification-for-android-hd-streaming/

galtom said:
So, whoever gets TouchWiz first please report ;-).
If at least there would be an Netflix app for SGT 10.1 that would help a lot... but with both playback possibilities not really working it is far from being a proper multimedia device ;-) (but looks great).
Funny thing is that Archos (coming soon...) might be a black horse here with Omap 4 on board and competitive price.
This looks very interesting although tablets themselves are truly ugly
http://androidcommunity.com/archos-...ideo-has-great-viewing-angles-video-20110627/
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...tflix-certification-for-android-hd-streaming/
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yes.. they are ugly and have cheap displays... but, Archos is the Codec-King!!!!
You can play almost everything on them... without reencoding!

If I remember correctly those two new Archos will have USB like 3G, IPS display and much better soc than tegra 2 (already with Netfilx HD certification!!!!)

galtom said:
If I remember correctly those two new Archos will have USB like 3G, IPS display and much better soc than tegra 2 (already with Netfilx HD certification!!!!)
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Thats correct... except the ips display. Archos will use a mva-paneltype in gen-9 with good viewing angles...
That are informations from the archosfansforum... User is Craig, he is working for archos in Canada i mean.

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[Q] Should I get the GT 10.1 or wait?

So I really want a Android 3.x Tab. and I really don't want an iPad 1 or 2. So since the Galaxy Tab 10.1 16GB is $499 and got a good review and thought it would be great!
So....
Should I go pick one up or should i wait?
Way I see it it's a good buy if you want something now...
There are things that I know are coming but are probably not until early to mid next year and these are...
300+ DPI screen (much brighter and more battery efficient too!)
and
Quad Cores with a decent GPU included (Tegra 2 GPU is meh)
I love the slim and lightness of the 10.1
I wont get another tablet until it has those features and is equally as light and thin and I know there wont be anything coming out this year that ticks all those boxes.
Also Galaxy Tab is unlocked and was the official Google dev tablet so you know you're going to get good support here on XDA
It's a great tab but Samsung can be pretty sluggish with bringing out updates and imho they've messed up with the 10.1/10.1v/GoogleIO 10.1 model confusion and appear to be more interested in generating promotional materials than supporting their user base.
The Samsung app suite has little or no publicly listed support for the 10.1 range - even though they have the apps on the devices (take a look at samsung apps, samsung drive, etc for an example of what devices they support).
I love my Samsung 10.1v - but if was buying again for the first time - I'd consider the Asus Transformer a little more. They've been a bit more proactive with pushing out updates.
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Also Galaxy Tab is unlocked and was the official Google dev tablet so you know you're going to get good support here on XDA
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I thought the Xoom was the only Google Experience Tablet? If Samsung pushes out Touchwiz doesn't that change the GT10.1 from the standard software?
Ansextra said:
I thought the Xoom was the only Google Experience Tablet? If Samsung pushes out Touchwiz doesn't that change the GT10.1 from the standard software?
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I'm hoping the Touchwiz skin really is only skin deep and that we can switch back to stock Honeycomb without issues. I wouldn't be surprised if Google is twisting the manufacturer's arm to make this be the case.
TouchWiz isn't just a launcher - it's pretty pervasive.
It looks like at least some TouchWiz components will be needed just to get updates. Currently you need a Samsung account (part of the suite of apk's installed with TouchWiz) to update the firmware.
Not that TouchWiz is all bad. Once you remove many of the widgets from the Homescreens - it's fairly pleasant to use.
The most important aspect needed is restyling the theme & some perf enhancements then I think most people will be happy.
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I thought the Xoom was the only Google Experience Tablet? If Samsung pushes out Touchwiz doesn't that change the GT10.1 from the standard software?
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I suppose so... That still doesn't change that 2000 devopers got 10.1 tabs though haha
LevitateJay said:
There are things that I know are coming but are probably not until early to mid next year and these are...
300+ DPI screen (much brighter and more battery efficient too!)
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Quad Cores with a decent GPU included (Tegra 2 GPU is meh)
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FWIW, Tegra 3 is due out later this year, though I expect you are right that they probably won't be as thin/light as the Galaxy. Motorola and Asus are among the first ones due out with Tegra 3 tablets, and at least in the case of the Asus, I expect the form factor will be similar to the current device, since compatibility with the existing dock is expected.
Also Galaxy Tab is unlocked and was the official Google dev tablet so you know you're going to get good support here on XDA
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The initial ones were unlocked, but it appears that newer ones are starting to show up locked. Personally, I wouldn't expect better "XDA support" on the Galaxy vs. others.
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I suppose so... That still doesn't change that 2000 devopers got 10.1 tabs though haha
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True but keep in mind they were given out by Samsung not by Google.
The only thing I don't like about the 10.1 (and pretty much every other honeycomb tablet) is that they're all Tegra 2 and frankly... it stinks. It can't do 720p playback very well and the GPU "acceleration" is still quite choppy. I'm not sure why Samsung didn't just stick their Exynos into the tab but I suppose the drivers just aren't available in Honeycomb. It's a bit strange having a phone that's WAY more powerful even underclocked at 500mhz my Galaxy S2 still records and plays back 1080p fine. I can dump 1080p MKV files from my computer with no formatting onto the phone and it plays them back flawlessly while the tablet can't even play back 720p MKV's without problems.
The main thing that I want to use the tablet for is browsing on a bigger screen... which is alright but the browser is just not as smooth as "other" fruit flavored tablets. Also when not in landscape mode the thing just gets even more choppier. It feels like I'm beta testing Honeycomb for them...
I was also looking at the ASUS Eee Pad Transformer.
I have an ASUS Laptop and wondered how good the quality of the Eee pad is if anyone knows.
I returned mine. So for me, I'm going to wait. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 was pretty nice piece of hardware. Most of my complaints were with Android 3 though. I just don't think it's ready for primetime. I had way too much frustrating issues with it and too many app crashes.
For the $600 I spent on the 32GB model, I wanted something with more polished software. My $200 Nook Color performed better with Android 2.3 (CM7).
I'm going to wait for tablets with Android 4 to launch, and preferably something without a Tegra 2 processor.
Samsung makes a crazy number of phones, so I wouldn't be surprised if they have a new thin tablet later this year for Android 4 also.
Not sure where everyone's beef with Tegra 2 is coming from. From a raw processing power standpoint, the Tegra 2 is better than Exynos and only falls behind the newer OMAP 4.
Is everyone here running the 720p videos from the device? If so, what are the files encoded by? I want to try and see if I have the same results. I stream all kinds of videos through DLNA to my Tab 10.1 and I've only noticed choppy playback on some high definition AVI files - never really took the time to troubleshoot the issue.
Asori said:
Not sure where everyone's beef with Tegra 2 is coming from. From a raw processing power standpoint, the Tegra 2 is better than Exynos and only falls behind the newer OMAP 4.
Is everyone here running the 720p videos from the device? If so, what are the files encoded by? I want to try and see if I have the same results. I stream all kinds of videos through DLNA to my Tab 10.1 and I've only noticed choppy playback on some high definition AVI files - never really took the time to troubleshoot the issue.
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Isn't part of the Tegra 2's problem it's lack of Advanced SIMD that everyone else seems to have?
The new TI OMAP 4 1.5GHz dual core and Nvidia Tegra 3 1.?GHz quad core both coming in Q3 got to be big performance improvements over the Tegra 2 that came out Q4 last year (feels older than that).
I'm quite confident that Samsung's TouchWiz will come with a much faster way of playing back videos. This was the case with the stock Galaxy S series of phones. They are all still the most capable phones of playing back DivX etc when running TouchWiz...
My guess is mid next year Samsung will release a equally thin and light tablet with their latest 300+ dpi screens and a quad core processor that will handle everything that honeycomb offers without a stutter... Can't wait for it... Until then I've got my slim light Tab 10.1 that does the job and works great with my Android phone and Google services
Yes, releasing a Tegra2 tablet now is pretty late. They had their shot with 10.1v but messed up nearly everything. And with Samsung support, this device won't see a shiny future. Despite all confusion Samsung doesn't say a damn word !
Then there is the missing sd slot and ports. We even got a worse 3MP cam while the 10.1v had a 8mp one. A step in the wrong direction.
Win8 beta is close (1-2 months), apple announced ipad3, tegra3 is coming too.
A massive change is going to happen until next year. Lots of arguments against the 10.1.
GT10.1 prices will drop big time soon. 300 bucks in ~3 months i guess.
Last week I was totally hyped but now it's getting easier to wait.
Still no release in EU. There must be some massive problems with that device.
I'm considering returning mine. There are a couple of little things that makes using the tablet as my main device a bit frustrating like moody text selection, keyboard disappearing randomly sometimes, choppy videos (was trying to stream Friday Night Lights on NBC's site, and it couldn't get through the first 10 mins), lack of honeycomb optimized apps, no Netflix, and even using Facebook thru the browser is quirky.
I have 2 more days to decide, and I'm looking into just waiting for the new Samsung Series 3 notebooks to come out also.
Hm, I checked the hits on xda. There are only 10k posts for the GT10.1 while the transformer has 45k.
Could it be low interest for this device?
I think it's more that the Asus has been out longer, and is also the most-sold Android Honeycomb tablet thus far.
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Isn't part of the Tegra 2's problem it's lack of Advanced SIMD that everyone else seems to have?
The new TI OMAP 4 1.5GHz dual core and Nvidia Tegra 3 1.?GHz quad core both coming in Q3 got to be big performance improvements over the Tegra 2 that came out Q4 last year (feels older than that).
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I did a quick wiki search on Advanced SIMD (I hadn't heard about it prior to you informing me ) and the technology looks more like it's applied to much slower ARM processors than the ones we find in tablets. Wikipedia specifically mentions acceleration for speech decoding and MP3 audio decoding at extremely slow speeds (15 MHz and below). Does this technology also apply to decoding videos, etc, at 1,000 MHz? I could see this possibly affecting something like playing MP3s while the device is in standby, but I don't know much about this technology.
When I use the Tab (and my 7" tab as well) I'm normally streaming video from TVersity on my PC to my tab via UPnPlay & Mobo video player (on my Tab 10.1) or AllShare on my 7" tab. I also watch flash videos (up to 720p - that's the highest res video I've tried). All work very well - there is some minor stuttering with the flash video from the stock browser, I would say it will drop a few frames once every 5 minutes.
I also do some filesharing over my network - such as transferring PDF files from my PC and viewing them on my Tab. I know that's not related to the video conversation - but that works pretty smoothly as well.

[Q] GT10.1 vs Toshiba Excite

Hi,
Just watched presentation of upcoming Toshiba Tab and Iahve to say I fell in love again (as with GT 10.1 which dissapointed me with itd SoC).
AT200 will be equipped with Ti OMAP4 4430 (1,2 Ghz) chip - the one with Netflix HD certificate. Has microSD slot, micro USB and HDMI. It is just 7,7 mm thick and very light.
What do you think....if you thinking of getting GT10.1 in few days would that make you wait?
And one more thing... Video transcoding - is it coming to an end???
I just bought my tab 4 days ago, don't want to even think about this tablet, I would've gotten it but too late now :/
Specs is one thing. What's important is real life performance and if there's any other possible flaw. Gtab actually looks not bad, but the software performance bogged it down. I'd by the time the Toshiba tablet is released, icecream sandwich may be released or close to be released. So unless the performance of the Toshiba tab is another class higher than grab, I see no point thinking too much about it.
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Looks almost identical to the Gtab! same resolution display too.... Won't be long before Apple will be taking Toshiba to the courts over this!! (or maybe Samsung will!??)
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Serious_Beans said:
I just bought my tab 4 days ago, don't want to even think about this tablet, I would've gotten it but too late now :/
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I looked at the Engadget review and the tablet looked pretty slow to me, I might be wrong. I'm very happy with my P7510 running on a vanilla 3.1 Honeycomb (soon to run on PhantomHacker's 3.2 vanilla ROM) and I'm looking forward to see Ice Cream on it.
The thing is, we will never purchase a tablet if we wait for the next "big one" to come out. Technology changes so fast that is not worth to trouble yourself. Just enjoy the tablet and use it to death, I personally think that my Tab 10.1 is an excellent product.
Well, I am not waiting for the next big one but just for one that does not have Tegra2 inside, looks OK, has I/O's I want and 3G connectivity.
So, just to have something for now I bought iPad 1 3G few weeks ago. As it is very limited device I was waiting for it to get right price. $350 for new one on warranty is OK. Now I can wait till end of the year to get Excite or Holiday or TF2 or Xoom2.... Will see.
If you want to wait, an alternative would be the HP Touchpad for $99 (fire sale instead of $499). It runs on WebOS which is awesome and I'm pretty sure someone will make an Android ROM for it eventually. Don't expect a great quality build, though.
The Tosh looks very nice, another weapon in the Android armoury. I'm still very happy with my Samsung 16Gb Wifi.
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If you want to wait, an alternative would be the HP Touchpad for $99 (fire sale instead of $499). It runs on WebOS which is awesome and I'm pretty sure someone will make an Android ROM for it eventually. Don't expect a great quality build, though.
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It would be all true if folks like me could actually get it.
IMHO if you want (especially 3G) tablet now, good one, for reasonable price, just to keep you going till the one you really want is out iPad1 seems like a great deal.
Does most of the stuff Tegra 2 tablets do, has 3G and new one can still be found pretty cheap (half of the zoom price for example). And form me video capabilities all almost the same.
There will be always something new and better than what's available currently in the market. By the time Toshiba excite gets released to the market, even more better tablet with awesome specs will be shown at a new tech show taking place anywhere on this planet Earth.
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galtom said:
Hi,
Just watched presentation of upcoming Toshiba Tab and Iahve to say I fell in love again (as with GT 10.1 which dissapointed me with itd SoC).
AT200 will be equipped with Ti OMAP4 4430 (1,2 Ghz) chip - the one with Netflix HD certificate. Has microSD slot, micro USB and HDMI. It is just 7,7 mm thick and very light.
What do you think....if you thinking of getting GT10.1 in few days would that make you wait?
And one more thing... Video transcoding - is it coming to an end???
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I'm feeling exactly the same as you. The size and weight of the GT 10.1 was perfect but the poor video decoding performance of the Tegra 2 and lack of MicroSD card slot was a real let down. The AT200 seems like it will be perfect for me (assuming the OMAP proc is a lot better for video decoding). I just hope it comes out real soon to the UK market. If they delay it too long then I may be put off with official specs of ICS tablets.
It is the same SOC as in new Archos G9 series (like them but they look "cheap") and they say it will "Play" anything and everything. ;-)
Dont even think about getting the tab 10.
The Ti OMAP4 4430 in the toshiba is far superior to Tegra 2.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has A9 cores with Neon processing. Tergra 2 does not have the Neon processing and will be much slower when running apps which use Neon code and alot of apps are starting to use it.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has DUAL channel memory controller. Tegra 2 only has a single channel. Since video memory is shared, dual channel will give double the memory bandwidth which is highly needed since video memory is shared from system memory.
Ti OMAP4 4430 has SUPERIOR video decoding hardware compared to tegra 2. You can finally play real HD 1080p video. Tegra 2 decoder is so slow it cant decode main and high HD profiles which is what everyone uses.
For the newcomers to this forum, don't put much stock in anything ^ this person says. He's a known troll who will say one thing in one thread and then turn around and say the exact opposite in another.
On topic, the Excite looks like a nice machine. Do we have a US release date for it yet?
ouch! Guessing no one has the actually specs on this tab yet, looks decent size wise.
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ouch! Guessing no one has the actually specs on this tab yet, looks decent size wise.
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Full specs have been released.
Does it have an amazing screen like the Samsung SPLS? Screen quality along with weight is what made my decision. However im disappointed in the current state of honeycomb/tablet apps. I would expect apps like Google+ to have the hangout video support. Lack of skype video is also a huge downer. My older samsung galaxy 7 also had way better video playing support.
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For the newcomers to this forum, don't put much stock in anything ^ this person says. He's a known troll who will say one thing in one thread and then turn around and say the exact opposite in another.
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This is a false statement. Never ever have I contradicted myself. Never.
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On topic, the Excite looks like a nice machine. Do we have a US release date for it yet?
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No, but don't worry, I do not think Europe has one either .
And two facts:
1. OMAP is a definitely better SOC than Tegra 2 - no arguing here. The only thing at which Tegra 2 might be better (we will have to wait and see, but I doubt it myself) is energy management.
I am worried about battery life of a tablet with 1,2 - 1,5 Ghz clock.
2. It will be cheaper in US than in EU - fact.
Now, one more "issue" we might encounter by the time it is in the shops. What will be a better choice - tablet with Omap4 or Tegra3/Kal-El with 4 cores and new architecture? (unless nvidia made an intel trick or the one they do with graphic cards - Tegra 3 is two Tegra 2 cpu's on a single chip - this would suck I think)

Sony Tablet S - should I get one?

I'm in the market for a new/first tablet. Out of the current crop of tablets, I'd say the Sony Tablet S looks most appealing to me. However, with the Asus Transfomer Prime coming out sometime soon, getting the Sony Tablet S is a hard decision.
Here's what I want a tablet for:
+Browsing - I want a tablet that is very capable of browsing the internet with ease and fluidity.
+Work/Note-taking/productivity - I want to be able to write articles and write down lecture notes very easily. The Asus Transformer prime's keyboard looks amazing. How is the typing experience on the Sony Tablet S? I like the unique design and it looks like using a touch keyboard could be pretty fast. Is it? The Sony Tablet S also does have a fairly good looking bluetooth keyboard, but it looks like it could be pricey.
+Movies/youtube - I want a tablet that's great for watching videos. The Tablet S does have a HD screen and a "tru-black" display so it sounds optimal for that. Is it a good display in actuality?
+Front-facing camera - I need a tablet capable of doing video chat well. How good is the quality of the Sony Tablet S' front facing camera and video chatting?
+Speed - I don't need a super-powered beast, but I need something that won't struggle on a day-to-day basis and that runs fast. How's the speed and fluidity on this tablet? With the Quad-core transformer prime coming, I want to know how this actually stacks up.
+Camcorder - In actuality I don't plan on using a tablet for its camera or camcorder, but I would have some use for good video recording on a tablet. Not really a factor in my decision, but how is the video recording quality on this thing?
+Design/styling - Both the asus transfomer prime and the sony tablet s look really good. Tablet S is a little more unique but transfomer prime is a bit sleeker design. Either way I think I'd be happy with the look of the devices.
+Future Updates - Sony Ericcson has been really good with putting out updates to their phones this past year. Will Sony continue along that same way with this tablet? The specs on this tablet seem kinda last year, but it did just come out in September so I imagine support for this tablet would carry on for some time. Do you think this tablet will get updates to newer versions of android? Has Sony announced ICS for this yet?
+Pricing/availability - How much do Tablet S tend to go for new? I would imagine transformer prime would be a bit more expensive with it coming out later, but I don't know. I do know I could get a tablet S in Canada fairly easily, but I don't yet know how transformer prime will do in Canada. If tablet S is same price as transfomer prime it seems it would make more sense to go with transformer prime.
+Your opinion? - How has your experience with the Sony Tablet S been? Do you love it? Would you recommend it? Any other thoughts?
Thanks
There is a topic almost just like this 1 RIGHT UNDER! lol. But I will try and give my general opinion.
Having owned the Ipad2, Jetstream, HTC Flyer & Tablet S...
The Tablet S is proficient at everything you described (although there are some issues especially concerning the watching of Youtube vids).
It is not as good as other tablets tho... Everything the Tablet S does, the Jetstream does better, Faster & smoother. On top of that the Jetstream has so many extra bonus features.
Same goes for the Ipad2... Ipad2 does everything the Tablet S does... but better -_- lol. Except maybe flash vids...
For upgrades... I have several Sony TVs, however only 1 sony phone (X10). The X10 was the ABSOLUTE WORST PHONE I HAVE EVER USED. Updates were so late, I had stop using the phone before the first update was pushed out.
I returned my Tablet S and now use the HTC Flyer. Just my opinion... remember to try out all alternatives before investing your cash into a device.
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There is a topic almost just like this 1 RIGHT UNDER! lol. But I will try and give my general opinion.
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Oops, can't believe I missed that.
Still, my question is not really vs the ipad mostly vs the other android tablet options. Been searching around the whole night and now I'm even considering the original Xoom lol. Anyways, thanks
friend if you want to recommend something good so you can spend your s1 jobs through an SD or USB using the cable because the iphone 2 is not this so in my opinion the s1 I so the pedi and give me the 15 November that the iphone tube 2 and believe me you have to send an email to the work force and if the guards have to synchronize is silly greetings
I did not understand a word of that, but thanks!
syrenz said:
+Browsing - I want a tablet that is very capable of browsing the internet with ease and fluidity.
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Very good browsing experience though Id recommend using Opera over the stock.
+Work/Note-taking/productivity - I want to be able to write articles and write down lecture notes very easily. The Asus Transformer prime's keyboard looks amazing. How is the typing experience on the Sony Tablet S? I like the unique design and it looks like using a touch keyboard could be pretty fast. Is it? The Sony Tablet S also does have a fairly good looking bluetooth keyboard, but it looks like it could be pricey.
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Stock keyboard is a bit laggy, Ive switched to split keyboard app since that was my preference on previous tablets anyway but yeah can always go the bluetooth route.
+Movies/youtube - I want a tablet that's great for watching videos. The Tablet S does have a HD screen and a "tru-black" display so it sounds optimal for that. Is it a good display in actuality?
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The display is top notch, its bright but not overly saturated with colors (ie Samsung, some people DO like that though). Video play on it great as are view angles.
+Front-facing camera - I need a tablet capable of doing video chat well. How good is the quality of the Sony Tablet S' front facing camera and video chatting?
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It is adequate for video chat but beyond that its not exactly great. The rear camera works nicely of course.
+Speed - I don't need a super-powered beast, but I need something that won't struggle on a day-to-day basis and that runs fast. How's the speed and fluidity on this tablet? With the Quad-core transformer prime coming, I want to know how this actually stacks up.
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About as smooth as any other android tablet out there.
+Camcorder - In actuality I don't plan on using a tablet for its camera or camcorder, but I would have some use for good video recording on a tablet. Not really a factor in my decision, but how is the video recording quality on this thing?
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Quite good the only drawback is no flash so dark lightning tends to be a problem.
+Design/styling - Both the asus transfomer prime and the sony tablet s look really good. Tablet S is a little more unique but transfomer prime is a bit sleeker design. Either way I think I'd be happy with the look of the devices.
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This is where S table shines, in design. The tablet is a joy to hold and use, yes its plastic but it is solid and doesnt feel "cheap". The magazine style IS noticeably easier to hold over more rectangle/boxy tablets.
+Future Updates - Sony Ericcson has been really good with putting out updates to their phones this past year. Will Sony continue along that same way with this tablet? The specs on this tablet seem kinda last year, but it did just come out in September so I imagine support for this tablet would carry on for some time. Do you think this tablet will get updates to newer versions of android? Has Sony announced ICS for this yet?
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We dont know yet to be honest, what we do know is Android 3.2 was available to d/l the day we bought our tablets so it *appears* Sony will push OS updates quickly but we'll have to see. The game store and video store came online about the time they said it would, it didnt drag out for months so another plus.
+Pricing/availability - How much do Tablet S tend to go for new? I would imagine transformer prime would be a bit more expensive with it coming out later, but I don't know. I do know I could get a tablet S in Canada fairly easily, but I don't yet know how transformer prime will do in Canada. If tablet S is same price as transfomer prime it seems it would make more sense to go with transformer prime.
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Can get the 16 gig for like 460 dollars from PC Nation.
+Your opinion? - How has your experience with the Sony Tablet S been? Do you love it? Would you recommend it? Any other thoughts?
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Coming from a motorola xoom, an ipad and usage of samsung galaxy 10 yes I love the device and would recommend it.
reeser said:
Coming from a motorola xoom, an ipad and usage of samsung galaxy 10 yes I love the device and would recommend it.
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Thanks! It's interesting that you say you came from a Motorola Xoom since I have also been looking at that device. Why did you make the switch?
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(although there are some issues especially concerning the watching of Youtube vids).
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Uh-oh, what issues? Watching youtube is one of the main things I want it for.
ppl need to stop reading what this idiot Maedros guy says. He does NOT have a Sony, he cannot afford one and i see him literally SPAMMING threads about his ****ty HTC products.
There is no issue with youtube, it works great.
NO issues with youtube on my tablet
No complaints in here about youtube too..
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Thanks! It's interesting that you say you came from a Motorola Xoom since I have also been looking at that device. Why did you make the switch?
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Mine broke and was looking for a replacement, something smaller, better screen (Xoom always had a washed out look to me) and S tablet fit the bill. And yeah I dont get any complaints about Youtube, it works perfectly. My only wish for the app was if you rotate the device it kept playing the video from the same point.

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Check out the interface where it allows multiple apps to appear on a single screen.
THIS multitasking ability is what I've been waiting for on Android platforms.
Any chance that we would see this kind of interface ported to our beautiful TF201?
What are your own thoughts? POST AWAY!
+1 to this post if you would like to see the same thing happening on our Transformer Primes!!
Did you know; there is a grave difference between an exclamation mark and a question mark?
If you did not know...then why not? If you did know then why did you use an exclamation mark instead of a question mark in the thread title?
There's already a system for this. Its called cornerstone. The problem is that is is so hard to implement into builds. There is a working build on rootz but it is not kept up or worked on.
But I do agree that something like this would be awesome to have on our tablets. There are many times I can use this.
Sent from my Transformer Infinity!
The new and improved Note 10.1 also has 2 gigs of ram. But from that video there's what 6 apps coded to do this?
Perfect tablet:
- Internals and software from Samsung
- Everything else (case and dock) from Asus
Nice tablet. The resolution and the type of display it uses is outdated though. Why didn't they go full HD? Aside from that, looks really good. I like the s pen feature. Why Samsung has to add touch wizard bloat on everything? Lol. I'm sure this device will run much faster/better with it removed or on a custom rom.
As for the interface, it looks cool but the chameleon one is more impressive. Its already in beta release. So this type of interface is here already for prime. Not to mention cornerstone builds being out for months already.
demandarin said:
Nice tablet. The resolution and the type of display it uses is outdated though. Why didn't they go full HD? Aside from that, looks really good. I like the s pen feature. Why Samsung has to add touch wizard bloat on everything? Lol. I'm sure this device will run much faster/better with it removed or on a custom rom.
As for the interface, it looks cool but the chameleon one is more impressive. Its already in beta release. So this type of interface is here already for prime. Not to mention cornerstone builds being out for months already.
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Actually, Samsungs year 2012 software is really good. The original ICS UI is more beautiful, but Samsung has made many good features in their rom and the "bloatware" UI runs as smooth if not even smoother than the original Android UI. Samsung has done some serious software optimization for their Exynos hardware and the UI and browser are using GPU acceleration efficiently.
If the default browser is even a bit as smooth as the browser in SGS3 then the Note 10.1 will be the first tablet that can be compared to iPad in terms of web browsing. The original Android web browser just is not as smooth as the default browser in iDevices, pinch to zoom lags more or less all the time.
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Actually, Samsungs year 2012 software is really good. The original ICS UI is more beautiful, but Samsung has made many good features in their rom and the "bloatware" UI runs as smooth if not even smoother than the original Android UI. Samsung has done some serious software optimization for their Exynos hardware and the UI and browser are using GPU acceleration efficiently.
If the default browser is even a bit as smooth as the browser in SGS3 then the Note 10.1 will be the first tablet that can be compared to iPad in terms of web browsing. The original Android web browser just is not as smooth as the default browser in iDevices, pinch to zoom lags more or less all the time.
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yeah it runs smooth on the video. not sure why not just come out with jb rom instead.
spec wise, this tablet exceeds expectations. my only gripe is the display. might be good for s pen usage but not sure how well itll be for watching 720p movies & such.
is it me or did the display look like it has a grid on it? or is this part of that particular display it uses to make good use of s pen?
i wish this tablet had a dock like prime/infinity pad. will be looking forward to more hands on reviews of it.
demandarin said:
Nice tablet. The resolution and the type of display it uses is outdated though. Why didn't they go full HD? Aside from that, looks really good. I like the s pen feature. Why Samsung has to add touch wizard bloat on everything? Lol. I'm sure this device will run much faster/better with it removed or on a custom rom.
As for the interface, it looks cool but the chameleon one is more impressive. Its already in beta release. So this type of interface is here already for prime. Not to mention cornerstone builds being out for months already.
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i wish this tablet had a dock like prime/infinity pad. will be looking forward to more hands on reviews of it.
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True. I am disappointed not any of the major Android makers havent brought their competitor for Transformer to the market. I think Asus needs a little kick to their ass from another manufacturers to get their software (or is it now the slow memory or something) up to a level it should be.
Lenovo's transformer type pad S2110 is suppose to be out in the US. Even though it is a dual core, it uses those Qualcomm next gen Krait cpu cores.
Rytkonen said:
Perfect tablet:
- Internals and software from Samsung
- Everything else (case and dock) from Asus
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yeah.. that way you'll have a performance beast with a screen that pops out, a dock that makes crispy noises when closed and a non-funtional gps ....
sorry but asus build quality isnt good ... it my look nice and thats about it...
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yeah.. that way you'll have a performance beast with a screen that pops out, a dock that makes crispy noises when closed and a non-funtional gps ....
sorry but asus build quality isnt good ... it my look nice and thats about it...
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Ok, lets change that to looks and materials from Prime but made by Sammy.
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yeah.. that way you'll have a performance beast with a screen that pops out, a dock that makes crispy noises when closed and a non-funtional gps ....
sorry but asus build quality isnt good ... it my look nice and thats about it...
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yea about that Crispy noises thing.
i just noticed that the other day with my dock. every time i close the tablet and dock, i hear a crispy noise almost sounds like glass breaking or sand in the glass pressing against it etc. it doesn't sounds good yet every time i look and clean the tablet and keyboard looking for anything that would cause interference i don't see or find anything. even pressing the glass to make sure nothing it loose or coming apart and I don't see anything.
wtf is that crispy sound.
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yea about that Crispy noises thing.
i just noticed that the other day with my dock. every time i close the tablet and dock, i hear a crispy noise almost sounds like glass breaking or sand in the glass pressing against it etc. it doesn't sounds good yet every time i look and clean the tablet and keyboard looking for anything that would cause interference i don't see or find anything. even pressing the glass to make sure nothing it loose or coming apart and I don't see anything.
wtf is that crispy sound.
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Do you have the screen lock sound on?
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It's the little screws beneath the rubber feet of the dock. There was a thread about it a while ago. I found a couple loose on mine after checking.
Carefully lift the feet, which are attached with double sided tape, and tighten the wee little screw hidden inside. My tape wanted to stay on the dock and not the foot.
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demandarin said:
Nice tablet.
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I'll let you know. Mine's arriving Friday.
Why didn't they go full HD?
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I'm guessing because of the cost of a digitizer being made that much more granular on such a large display.
"While Samsung refused to confirm if the built-in digitizer is based on Wacom's technology, the company did reveal that it supports up to 256 levels of pressure sensitivity."
Why Samsung has to add touch wizard bloat on everything? Lol. I'm sure this device will run much faster/better with it removed or on a custom rom.
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That "bloat" is what's holding it all together. There's no native Android support for the level of screen sensitivity the Note has or for the psuedo-multitasking. Awake Stay and Pop-Up-Play are features from the SGS3 that have been carried over and make a lot more sense on a tablet than a phone.
As for the interface, it looks cool but the chameleon one is more impressive. Its already in beta release. So this type of interface is here already for prime. Not to mention cornerstone builds being out for months already.
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Good luck with 1GB of RAM.
BarryH_GEG said:
I'll let you know. Mine's arriving Friday.
I'm guessing because of the cost of a digitizer being made that much more granular on such a large display.
"While Samsung refused to confirm if the built-in digitizer is based on Wacom's technology, the company did reveal that it supports up to 256 levels of pressure sensitivity."
That "bloat" is what's holding it all together. There's no native Android support for the level of screen sensitivity the Note has or for the psuedo-multitasking. Awake Stay and Pop-Up-Play are features from the SGS3 that have been carried over and make a lot more sense on a tablet than a phone.
Good luck with 1GB of RAM.
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Wow, are you really? Hmm... I figured you would wait on Windows 8 tablets... if you waited this long since they are just around the corner.
Such as this one....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/08/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-2-announced/
Of course, we will find more about W8 tablets soon from all OEMs.....
Edit: Btw, looking forward to your review...
hey buddy
BarryH_GEG said:
I'll let you know. Mine's arriving Friday.
I'm guessing because of the cost of a digitizer being made that much more granular on such a large display.
"While Samsung refused to confirm if the built-in digitizer is based on Wacom's technology, the company did reveal that it supports up to 256 levels of pressure sensitivity."
That "bloat" is what's holding it all together. There's no native Android support for the level of screen sensitivity the Note has or for the psuedo-multitasking. Awake Stay and Pop-Up-Play are features from the SGS3 that have been carried over and make a lot more sense on a tablet than a phone.
Good luck with 1GB of RAM.
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Long time no see please do a detailed review. Even better make a video of it. If it impresses me enough I might look into it(might be getting a new 10in. Tablet soon. Infinity pad seems to be the best out now but this tab is interesting and specs look good) I just wish the display was lil better. Its likely better in person.
But does the display really have a visible grid on it? Looked like it on the video. How good can THST be for watching movies or whatever?
I have a nexus7 now and loving the jellybean experience. This little tablet is a beast. I never thought I would like the 7in. Form factor so much. I already have it rooted and unlocked. Running stock rom and alternating between motley linaro based kernel with gpu OC to 520mhz and Morrific kernel. I/O is not an issue for me on nexus 7. On rl sqlite bench I get 16 secs. Overall now. On quadrant I'm scoring close to 7k+ overall and over 10k on I/O scores. Its funny how the budget priced nexus 7 has demolished all other android tablets in benchmarking. Its been all over the tech sites lately(about how nexus7 benches higher than any other android device when using Der kernel by mortiffic) One user scored over 7300 overall. And like over 14k on I/O. Even my chainfire benches show me crushing the Samsung galaxy S3 processor. My nenamark2 score is 64.7Fps. Nexus 7 is a great tablet period. Great developement support for it already and its still in infancy of release. All the best developers have one or plan on getting one.
So this is out in stores already? Uses quad core exynos?
Still rocking the tegra3 one X? I hear galaxy note2 is dropping soon. Might have flexible display like Sammy demonstrated before.
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shinzz said:
Wow, are you really? Hmm... I figured you would wait on Windows 8 tablets... if you waited this long since they are just around the corner.
Such as this one....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/08/lenovo-thinkpad-tablet-2-announced/
Of course, we will find more about W8 tablets soon from all OEMs.....
Edit: Btw, looking forward to your review...
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Only bad thing about THST Lenovo seems to be the fact its going to use an atom. Based on comments section on THST article, not fairing well with potential buyers. Is this the new variant(more powerfuk/battery friendly)described way back for tablets? What about those other Intel chips mentioned to be use by win8 tablets?
I'm always anxious to try latest tech but do you think e.mote might be right when he said might be best to wait for next generation win8 tablets. No matter if arm or Intel powered. This initial release of win8 tabs. Will have its growing pains.
demandarin said:
Long time no see please do a detailed review. Even better make a video of it. If it impresses me enough I might look into it(might be getting a new 10in. Tablet soon. Infinity pad seems to be the best out now but this tab is interesting and specs look good) I just wish the display was lil better. Its likely better in person.
But does the display really have a visible grid on it? Looked like it on the video. How good can THST be for watching movies or whatever?
I have a nexus7 now and loving the jellybean experience. This little tablet is a beast. I never thought I would like the 7in. Form factor so much. I already have it rooted and unlocked. Running stock rom and alternating between motley linaro based kernel with gpu OC to 520mhz and Morrific kernel. I/O is not an issue for me on nexus 7. On rl sqlite bench I get 16 secs. Overall now. On quadrant I'm scoring close to 7k+ overall and over 10k on I/O scores. Its funny how the budget priced nexus 7 has demolished all other android tablets in benchmarking. Its been all over the tech sites lately(about how nexus7 benches higher than any other android device when using Der kernel by mortiffic) One user scored over 7300 overall. And like over 14k on I/O. Even my chainfire benches show me crushing the Samsung galaxy S3 processor. My nenamark2 score is 64.7Fps. Nexus 7 is a great tablet period. Great developement support for it already and its still in infancy of release. All the best developers have one or plan on getting one.
So this is out in stores already? Uses quad core exynos?
Still rocking the tegra3 one X? I hear galaxy note2 is dropping soon. Might have flexible display like Sammy demonstrated before.
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Only bad thing about THST Lenovo seems to be the fact its going to use an atom. Based on comments section on THST article, not fairing well with potential buyers. Is this the new variant(more powerfuk/battery friendly)described way back for tablets? What about those other Intel chips mentioned to be use by win8 tablets?
I'm always anxious to try latest tech but do you think e.mote might be right when he said might be best to wait for next generation win8 tablets. No matter if arm or Intel powered. This initial release of win8 tabs. Will have its growing pains.
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The Intel ATOM the article is referring to is either Medfield (hopefully not) or Cloverfield (this is the dual-core one) SoC. The Intel Atom comments are referring to old Intel Atom processors... during the netbook days. And rightfully... they were weak....& those who had bad exp. with netbooks will probably be weary about it...
During Computex... Asus Tablet 810 was on Medfield... although, hopefully.. when it actually releases.. I hope it will be Cloverfield as pretty much all Atom based tablets will be on Cloverfield.
To break it down to you:
1.) Intel Medfield/Cloverfield & AMD Trinity vs. ARM SoC
This will be for cheaper version of Win 8 tablets. Medfield/Cloverfield/Trinity are x86 SoC that are designed to compete with ARM SoC.
2.) Intel i3/i5/i7 vs AMD FX, Phenom.. whatever AMD has next
This will be for those who need power (but crap battery life).
Again, if I were you... I'll stay away from WinRT.. or ARM tablets for Windows 8. Simply no reason to purchase them at launch....
I would go for Intel Cloverfield tablet.... or just one of the i3/i5/i7 ones.
shinzz said:
I figured you would wait on Windows 8 tablets.
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I survived Android 3.1 and Teg2 on a tablet with Android. I don't want to go through that again with W8. It'll take W8 tablets a while to shake out. Meantime ICS (and soon JB), decent SoC's, and Google getting in to the tablet business will accelerate the maturation of Android tablets. I really use my tablet for occasional productivity work like MS Office and usually editing not creating. Most of the time it's a consumption device and that's going to take W8 a while to get to the same level. I'm kind of disappointed in the non-HD display but the big get is the ability to use it for handwritten notes. From what I've read a great deal of W8, even in RT, isn't fully touch enabled. Depending on the degree that's true I think people will be disappointed. And don't laugh but being able to use it as a phone is a big benfit too. For Skype and long conference calls its massive battery will come in handy. My old G-Tab's on my plan as an extra phone so unlimited voice, messaging, and data is the same $20 a month.
Here's a link to the users manual. It's got some pretty cool features. Suffering from ADD (jk) the ability to watch movies via Pop-Up-Play and do other stuff is pretty cool. It also has Buddy Share social tagging for pictures which works with local shots as well as anything you import. It's really like a big SGS3 minus NFC.
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...ng_Icecream_English_120803_PC/start_here.html
demandarin said:
Long time no see please do a detailed review. Even better make a video of it. If it impresses me enough I might look into it(might be getting a new 10in. Tablet soon. Infinity pad seems to be the best out now but this tab is interesting and specs look
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I've been lurking but it's been pretty quiet around here. Maybe that's because I stopped stirring the pot. I was looking at the Infinity because it's supposed to come out in a 3G version. The QC issues are tamer than what the Prime launched with but still there. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I just wish the display was lil better. Its likely better in person.
But does the display really have a visible grid on it? Looked like it on the video. How good can THST be for watching movies or whatever?
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I'm guessing it's a totally different display than what's been used in the past because of the digitizer. The G-Tab 2's display was noted as inferior to the original by the reviewers. And god I hope the grids not visible; that would suck.
Even my chainfire benches show me crushing the Samsung galaxy S3 processor.
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I know you like benchmarks. Someone posted one. It's better than the SGS3 I'm guessing because of the lower resolution of the display and additional RAM. Going from my One X to my old G-Tab was painful. I'm looking forward to my tablet at least keeping up with my phone.
So this is out in stores already? Uses quad core exynos?
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Negri got some 16GB 3G models in. They gave one to TechnoBuffalo to do an unboxing vid. All the labeling was in spanish so I'm guess this early batch is from Latin America. It's not cheap but based on the European pricing it would be about the same if I waited for it to be released in the UK because of the exchange rate. The 16GB Wi-Fi versions's supposed to be $499 I think. It's the same Exynos/Mali SoC that's in the SGS3 with an additional GB of RAM.
Here are the specs if you're interested.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note_10.1/
I'm glad you guys are still hanging out. It's kind of like old home week.

Which Galaxy Player is best?

My sister really wants a pocketable music player/camera/ of some kind. Mom won't get her a phone and is therefore considering an iPod touch, even though my sister shares my hatred of apple products. All said, an android PMP would be perfect for her.
No, an old phone without cellular access would not be ok, my mom... its easier not to try to explain, she just isn't ok with that. =P
So, I went to look up the Samsung Galaxy Players (as the only android PMPs i know are Samsung and Archos, and the Archos ones look disappointing) and i found there were no complete/reliable spec sheets anywhere on the internet >_< information was either vague (EG unspecified 1 GHz processor) or conflicting.
I'm looking between the Galaxy players 4.0, 4,2, and 5.0.
Which is better? screen size and internal storage do not matter as much as screen resolution, RAM, CPU, and SD card. I'm looking to get the best one i can buy at this point, not the best bang-for-your-buck one.
also, i found this device on GSMArena:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_player_70_plus-4633.php
Anyone know anything about it?
As i said, there's not much on the internet about the galaxy players. Any help from you guys would be appreciated
NOTE: yes, i consider a 5" screen pocketable. So does my sister. A 7" tablet (EG nexus 7), however, is not, so that's not an option.
They all suffer from lack of RAM at this point. Maybe you should wait for a new model to be released...if they ever release one. Personally I like the 5.0 because of its screen size, and that's about it. As a PMP they all work fine. In terms of processing power the 4 and 5 are the same, not sure about the 4.2. both the 4 and 5 are SD Card expandable, again not sure about the 4.2. Lastly, that device you linked to looks very promising. Kinda like a Galaxy Player 5.0 2! I hadn't even heard of it until you. To sum it all up, They all work well as PMP's, and they all perform pretty similarly. That 70+ looks way better than any of the previous models, so if you could get your hands on that, go for it.
-arceusg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457 All specs are here. However I say the 4.0 is the best because it's more the all rounder PMP player, but the 5.0 has more custom roms. All the spec sheets for all galaxy player are found on Samsung's site. You click tech specs, and then hit the PDF file above.
Do you only want "Android only" players, because there are some other good ones too. The Sony Walkman Z is also android only and is dual core. You can try looking at the Cowon J3, or D3. But I would wait because Samsung is probably going to release a new Galaxy Player. That Device you linked is the Galaxy Player 70 Plus. It is Samsungs first dual core player, but it was only released in Korea. It is based of the Galaxy S2, similar to how the Galaxy player 4.0 is similar to the GS1.
It would be best to wait for the upcoming YP-GP1 with ICS,dual core and qHD.
The new model that's supposed to be released is similar to a Galaxy S3, however, it will be a whopping 5.8 inches, like, mini tablet sized.
I'd say go with the 4.2, it looks better, and quality is better as well, and as long as she's not going to be a heavy gamer of some sorts, she'll be fine with it.
Otherwise, if you plan to put a custom rom, I would say 5.0, although I dont have one myself (I have a 4.0) , since it has more ROMS to choose some, even though 4.0 looks promising.
There's also the Walkman Z, which is Sony's android PMP, and it looks alright, 1 GB of RAM, great if she's going to be a heavy user, although I don't own one of these either, so I have no real experience with it.
Anyways, maybe you should show her some of the choices, and let her pick from them herself.
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It would be best to wait for the upcoming YP-GP1 with ICS,dual core and qHD.
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*googles* oh yeah, i remember reading about that when it was first leaked. Looks perfect. Think it'll be out in time for Christmas?
euphoriaflow said:
The new model that's supposed to be released is similar to a Galaxy S3, however, it will be a whopping 5.8 inches, like, mini tablet sized.
I'd say go with the 4.2, it looks better, and quality is better as well, and as long as she's not going to be a heavy gamer of some sorts, she'll be fine with it.
Otherwise, if you plan to put a custom rom, I would say 5.0, although I dont have one myself (I have a 4.0) , since it has more ROMS to choose some, even though 4.0 looks promising.
There's also the Walkman Z, which is Sony's android PMP, and it looks alright, 1 GB of RAM, great if she's going to be a heavy user, although I don't own one of these either, so I have no real experience with it.
Anyways, maybe you should show her some of the choices, and let her pick from them herself.
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5.8 sounds sweet, actually
she mainly wants it for music, web browsing, and games (mainly angry birds, minecraft PE, and fruit ninja), and i plan to throw GrooveIP on there eventually
ROMs aren't that important, but i do plan to help her root eventually.
Didn't know any of the walkmans were android powered, i'll have to check that out
and i do plan to let her make the final decision, if they're close. however, i want to give her the best options, not every option. I'm sure you understand.
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*googles* oh yeah, i remember reading about that when it was first leaked. Looks perfect. Think it'll be out in time for Christmas?
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Only IFA will tell us more about this. I don't think that if they announce it, it would be released in the US.
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Only IFA will tell us more about this. I don't think that if they announce it, it would be released in the US.
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Eh, all the good stuff has to be imported anyways
5.0 if you cant wait and if you can that new 5.8...i have 5.0 and i love it..i have also android phone with 4.0 inch screen and 2 tablets with 7 and 10.1 and of all them i use SGS 5.0 most of the time and it was cheapest of all device i have.
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Eh, all the good stuff has to be imported anyways
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Maybe US will ban all samsung products and everything that is not apple
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DAC
It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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Right now the Walkman Z is looking like the best overall device, even with its lack of removable storage. Only things that irks me about it is the charging cable and the lack of cameras. I like the Walkman because the SoC (Tegra 2 + 1GB RAM) is the same as my tablet, so I now its going to be powerful enough. What CPU/RAM do the 4.0, 4.2, and 5.0 have?
kesongpinoy said:
It is also worth pointing out that the 4.0 (and 4.2 I think) has better sound quality because it has the wolfson DAC (5.0 has yamaha which is not bad but not as good either). You can enable voodoo sound on 4.0
4.0 also has better screen dpi because the resolution is more fitting on the screen size. 5.0 is better for movies IMO but be prepared to see some pixels :cyclops:
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I dont see any pixel on mine and if i try.
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Ultimately, there's no best or worst, it's about what's best for you. For this reason i have both the SGS 3.6 and 5.0. I like the 3.6 for its small size and extreme pocketability. I also use it as a bluetooth handsfree with my 7" 3G tablet. I love my 5.0 for the size of it's screen. It's still pocketable and i take it with me to outings and on weekends. It's very good for comfortably surfing the net on that large 5" screen or watching an odd movie.
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Ultimately, there's no best or worst, it's about what's best for you. For this reason i have both the SGS 3.6 and 5.0. I like the 3.6 for its small size and extreme pocketability. I also use it as a bluetooth handsfree with my 7" 3G tablet. I love my 5.0 for the size of it's screen. It's still pocketable and i take it with me to outings and on weekends. It's very good for comfortably surfing the net on that large 5" screen or watching an odd movie.
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well, when i said best, i meant specs/performance-wise...
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well, when i said best, i meant specs/performance-wise...
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even this is relative, it depends on what you need it for. If you want to play some very heavy 3d games, you need more power, but you will sacrifise the battery life.
If you read backa few comments I explain what it'd be used for...
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If you read backa few comments I explain what it'd be used for...
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Mine 5.0 works on 1.2 ghz it had power vr chip 540 ..all games that i have like gta 3 ,max payne ,fifa 12 ,real racing 2 etc works smoothly if that was your anwser.Power Vr 540 chip on 800x480 resolution gives higher FPS then tegra 3 on tablet resolution so 3d want be a problem ..for future games only problem could be single core processor.
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I think it's the 4.0 or the 5.0 because they already have ROMs
Well, I own a Samsung Galaxy Player 4 and 4.2. For My the best between both devices is 4.2. The quality of sound and fluency is better. The only problem is sometimes when I use skype the 4.2 restart the system. :banghead:
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I love my 4.0. It's smaller and fits well in a pocket. But girls have purses so I guess she wouldn't mind something bigger. I'd suggest you to wait for the new 5.8, it will be blazing fast with its dual core.

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