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Hi all,
First of all I didn't want to start a new thread but I already followed all advises when people asked about this issue and had no luck, don't know what else to do.
I got my new gtablet four days ago (not a woot) and have been trying different roms (TNT 4.3.1 / Vegan 5.1) with no luck in the android market. Of course I tried the fixes for the market, clearing cache, data, even re-partitioning to make sure partition was 2048 | 0, turning off firewall in my router... EVERYTHING! On the stock ROM (3588) I can download and install apps from the market with no issues. In TNT lite 4.3.2 (my actual ROM) I can download things from the browser, but not from the market. As soon as I click to install, it keeps in "starting download..." and could be there for hours without downloading a single bit.
Is anybody experimenting the same (frustration, haha)? How can I identify where the problem could be?
Thanks in advanece!
mmmm.... ideas?
Thanks!
This has been happening to me on and off with both updates and new downloads for the past week or so. Usually I can kickstart it by canceling it and selecting it again. Some seemed to be more difficult than others.
+1. I usually stop the download and kick start it again. After a few times, it usually starts the download.
Hey, first thanks for the replies!
I try stop & reconnect all the time even with different applications but I have no luck. Another strange thing is that I cannot connect to google talk. It always give me the error that it cannot connect with the server. I'm pointing this as I know that the market and gtalk are close related. Does that rings a bell?
Download it and restart the device..it.should start downloading again once its.back on
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santasemilla said:
Hey, first thanks for the replies!
I try stop & reconnect all the time even with different applications but I have no luck. Another strange thing is that I cannot connect to google talk. It always give me the error that it cannot connect with the server. I'm pointing this as I know that the market and gtalk are close related. Does that rings a bell?
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That could be a network or server issue. Can you use the web based market?
If that works try the market fix again. There have been times that I had to do that three or four times to get it working correctly.
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Download it and restart the device..it.should start downloading again once its.back on
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Hi! Just got back home and tried...but noup, keeps hanged. [email protected][email protected]#%$%#
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That could be a network or server issue. Can you use the web based market?
If that works try the market fix again. There have been times that I had to do that three or four times to get it working correctly.
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Hello there, and thanks for stopping by! What you mean by web based market? Whenever I type android market on the web browser, it goes to https://market.android.com/ but for downloading, jumps to the market application and the neverending "starting download" starts again Nevertheless I was using without any issues the limited market that comes with the stock ROM! That's just to discard issues with my internet connection. Also, tried on a different connection and everything stays the same.
santasemilla said:
Hi! Just got back home and tried...but noup, keeps hanged. [email protected][email protected]#%$%#
Hello there, and thanks for stopping by! What you mean by web based market? Whenever I type android market on the web browser, it goes to https://market.android.com/ but for downloading, jumps to the market application and the neverending "starting download" starts again Nevertheless I was using without any issues the limited market that comes with the stock ROM! That's just to discard issues with my internet connection. Also, tried on a different connection and everything stays the same.
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Any time I've had anything like this a clear cache or data wipe took care of it. Very odd. Maybe Dalvik Cache?
Mine did the same thing and I found my date/time was reset. Setting the proper time fixed it instantly. Downloading would hang in the market but dl'ing an apk from getjar worked fine. Good luck!
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santasemilla
Did you ever get this issue resolved? My friend as the same issue with downloads not completing and I'm at a loss as to how to fix it?
Thanks.
I'm seeing this exact same issue (including the Google Talk Authentication failure) on VEGAn-TAB 5.1.
Has anyone found a resolution for this? Thanks!
I found my issue -
I didn't have a gmail account. Without a gmail account Google Talk doesn't seem to work and the Marketplace uses Talk.
Symptoms:
Google Talk autentication failure on boot up
Marketplace would not download, stuck on "Starting download"
Resolution
Created new email account [email protected]
Logged into Google Talk through PC app to set-up account
Wipped all user data from tablet through clockwork
Added gmail account in settings
Had to do market fix again, but after that everything worked
Ever since I updated WWF after the TW update, I get an error connecting to the servers and can't play any games. I have tried a forced close and clearing cache. anyone else having problems with this? If so, does anyone have any solutions?
Thanks
-Triple
I had to update in the market place to fix mine. Works perfect now.
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I played last night and everything worked great, even got push notifications for the first time. WWF definitely needs a paid version for android to get rid of those annoying adds.
That and I can receive chat messages but I can't send them.
Tab 10.1 w/TW Wi-Fi, retail
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after doing the update from the market, i was able to send messages. I couldn't do anything without it FC or giving me network error message from the version that was loaded with Touchwiz.
How did you guys get the version from the market to update the TW version? When i go out to the Market "Open" is the only option I get.
when you go into settings>applications what version do you have installed? I am running 3.61
Mine shows up as 3.59. Funny thing is that the Market version says 3.61 but "open" is the only option I get.
TripleTapper said:
Mine shows up as 3.59. Funny thing is that the Market version says 3.61 but "open" is the only option I get.
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Try clearing the cache for your market and see if it will come up
Mine is version 3.59 as well.
Same issue when I go to the market.
I just emailed the dev.
When are these adds going to be dealt with?
nakedninja42 said:
Try clearing the cache for your market and see if it will come up
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Great idea, but its a no go.
nakedninja42 said:
Try clearing the cache for your market and see if it will come up
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That did not work for me.
I removed my stock version and installed it again from the market. I pulled and zip the apk. Extract and install from from your sdcard.
I can't try it right now, but I will check it out later. Thanks for taking the time!
-Triple
Naked, work was blocking the download. After getting impatient I tried logging into the Android market on my PC and forcing an install on my tablet. It worked like a charm! I am now running 3.61. I am testing it now, but I have yet to get an error.
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Naked, work was blocking the download. After getting impatient I tried logging into the Android market on my PC and forcing an install on my tablet. It worked like a charm! I am now running 3.61. I am testing it now, but I have yet to get an error.
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Sweet, glad you got it working. Good idea on doing the web page market and forcing the upgrade. I'll keep that in mind in the future.
I have seen often programs not able to update properly when they are located /system/app. Since the it was part of the upgrade to TW, they have it located there.
The install from Market worked great for me as well.
Never knew you could do that.
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Naked, work was blocking the download. After getting impatient I tried logging into the Android market on my PC and forcing an install on my tablet. It worked like a charm! I am now running 3.61. I am testing it now, but I have yet to get an error.
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TripleTapper, can you please explain more? Now do you "force install" from the market? It just tells me that my Nook Color is incompatible with the app, and the buttons are greyed out.
Thanks.
I just opened the Market using the browser on my PC. When I do that and search for Words for Friends I click on install. It then gives me an option to install onto my various Android devices by selecting it from a pull down. My Galaxy Tab comes up as Samsung GT-P7510.
Words has been working flawlessly now! : )
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I just opened the Market using the browser on my PC. When I do that and search for Words for Friends I click on install. It then gives me an option to install onto my various Android devices by selecting it from a pull down. My Galaxy Tab comes up as Samsung GT-P7510.
Words has been working flawlessly now! : )
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Thanks. Doesn't work on the Nook, unfortunately.
Mine are dead since the update...
How can I fix them? Maybe using an older apk?
Thanks,
TD
Nah mate mine still work, just make sure refresh is set to never but notifications are turned on. I get em roughly 20-30 secs later than the actual website
DramatikBeats said:
Nah mate mine still work, just make sure refresh is set to never but notifications are turned on. I get em roughly 20-30 secs later than the actual website
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Yes that is how they are set, as they were pre 1.8.2,and they used to work flawlessly. I also tried rebooting, and logging off and back on in both Facebook and Facebook messenger, still nothing
Got the same problem.I stopped getting notifications after the update.Only get them via google mail but super late.Reading the comments on the market it seems that its happening to many people.Guess its a hit and miss thing weather the update works or not.Some people are also uninstalling the update and going back to the previos version untill its fixed.
cooza said:
Got the same problem.I stopped getting notifications after the update.Only get them via google mail but super late.Reading the comments on the market it seems that its happening to many people.Guess its a hit and miss thing weather the update works or not.Some people are also uninstalling the update and going back to the previos version untill its fixed.
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Can you help me go back to the previous version?
not work i put the 1.8.1 version
for who whant the 1.8.1 version you can find it on aptoide
Just clear application data from settings/applications/manage applications/Facebook and relogin. It will start working again. This happens to me numerous times.
h3llboy911 said:
Just clear application data from settings/applications/manage applications/Facebook and relogin. It will start working again. This happens to me numerous times.
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I cleared the data and cache, logged back in, but it didn't solve it.
tylerdurden83 said:
Can you help me go back to the previous version?
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Trying to do the same.It doesnt have an uninstall updates option so Im trying to find out how everyone else did it.
cooza said:
Trying to do the same.It doesnt have an uninstall updates option so Im trying to find out how everyone else did it.
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I went to http://www.apktops.com/ and downloaded v1.8.1, then I placed the apk into my phone via kies air, doesn't really matter in which folder. I went into application management, cleared data and cache (just to be safe), uninstalled facebook. Then I went to the folder where I placed the v1.8.1 apk, clicked on it, and installed it. I haven't received a pm yet, so I can't say yet if it did fix push notifications.
Still not working anymore.... I'm so mad at this....
I went back to 1.7.1...current versions are too buggy.
I tried everything, I
Cleared cache and data for Facebook, Facebook Messenger and Go Facebook Widget
Uninstalled those 3
Reinstalled Facebook only, different versions, v1.8.2, v1.8.1, v1.7.2. Tested with FB only, nothing
Reinstalled the latest Facebook Messenger, still nothing
Reinstalled the latest Go Facebook Widget, still nothing.
I'm out of ideas really...
PS: my mate with GS2 with official XILA2 (android 2.3.6) says that his galaxy's notifications are also dead, but he has them just fine on his Transformer tablet with honeycomb
Facebook app is pretty bad period tbh comparing it to the iphones . Sometimes randomly it would give me nasty wakelocks.
i heard ads are coming to it soon :-/ lol
looks like an iphone but powered by android!!!
Noone else has any idea about how to fix these?....
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Noone else has any idea about how to fix these?....
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Have you tried this?
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/11/how-to-enable-push-notifications-in.html
I just uninstalled it all together. will try an older apk.
I must say I got push notifications to work by logging into my facebook on my mums blackberry then logging off. Maybe thats whay I still get the notifications? Wish I could help mate but if you know someone with a blackberry then try the idea posted above
Yes I did that trick with the blackberry emulator like 4 months, ago, and it worked just fine till the last update. I've since tried to revert to an older facebook apk, and redo the blackberry simulator trick, but they still won't get back on
So...refresh interval slould be "never" and notifications "on", ok?
That's my options in facebook aplication. I deleted app data in setting, but still no push working.
If anybody have a solution, please help.
Thank you...
Hi guys and geeks, its time to work your magic and fire up your amazing brain cells. I am totally new here and its my first post, so please dont be that hard at me if ill screw something up
So my problem is after a 2 weeks usage of international version of my SGS3 i got a big problem. It started totally from nothing, to be specific it stopped through day.
Yesterday morning i was updating 1 app from Google play and i left my phone on desk.
I got back to it in evening and found out that 4 apps cannot be updated from unknown reason. I tried manual start of download- nothing, it will not start to download. just rolling the bar. I also found that i cant download any new app from GPlay.
I made a factory reset of phone today. Set it up, and its ready to go. IT STILL CANT DOWNLOAD THAT APPS. Why? Wifi is working normally (ONLY WIFI), can browse websites and so on.
Anyone help ??
Goto settings/Application manager/Google Play Store and select clear data and cache then see if it works.
Just google server problem mybe. Just wait
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I cleared data cache already,and it doesnt worked. Server problem? HUH.... maybe.... Though i highly doubt its server problem because i was asking a few my friends with android phones about this and their market is ok.
So got any ideas? Cuz im now stuck with empty phone after fact.reset and i cant work on it though.
Bump! Any suggestions?
Goto App manager again and uninstall updates.
Nope, i also combined it with phone restart. It cant download apps or update them.
go to settings, accounts and sync, remove google account. Add account again and it should work.
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Did it twice now. Result? Phone likes to roll bars. But thats all he wants to do. Still cant start download.
So i contacted Samsung Customer Support about this and i described it at whole. The guy said he would do exact same thing and i have done good. He gave an advice of taking out the battery for 15 mins - it would reset the device and pull it in and try. Still nothing.
Any idea out there? Because if i will not be able to do more, im sending this damn phone to for service repair because i have 2 years warranty. This is truly f*cking unbelievable. My first Android device. Upgraded from HTC HD2. 600€ phone. Crap.
Had a similar problem a few days back where it just gave an error message. Went into settings / all apps and cleared data from Google services framework. Rebooted and it was fixed.
Edit: just remembered, the above solution may have helped but it didn't completely fix my problem. Had to reboot into recovery, the in the advanced tab had to run 'fix permissions ', then all was fine. Only thing I could think of that may have caused the problem was flashing and testing cm10 before restoring my backup.
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Tried Google Service Framework, didnt helped.
So i got into that recovery mode but there was no advanced tab. Only something like reboot now, wipe cache, wipe partition, factory reset .. Tried Wipe cache, and so on... Didnt helped....
Check your memory. Make sure there's at least 600-700mb left. My S3 kept giving me update errors whenever my internal memory fell below 500mb
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Bro, no offense, but i have clean phone after factory reset with around 400mb of data in it.
pingo10 said:
Bro, no offense, but i have clean phone after factory reset with around 400mb of data in it.
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Well if you want to start fresh, flash a CF root kernel and wipe cache, dalvik, system and then a factory reset. Flash a new rom after that. Don't reboot your recovery while doing this because you've wiped 'system' . What ever problems you had should have gone. I normally follow this procedure to make sure for a full wipe
Hope this helps
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Sir, i have truly no idea what are you talking about, im just getting that i have to load onto phone some loader and then flash some new rom which im 100% not going to do since i have fresh 2 year warranty and im not planning to break it.
I have already decided. Im calling authorized service center about details for sending my phone to get repaired. Either they will fix it, or ill get a new phone. Only good and Better.
So after few frakking days im back...
SUDDENDLY after 2 days of my last post it started working again like a charm. Downloaded most of the apps.
Then next day, it was gone again... Stopped working...
Also now its error 495 but after a very long time of rolling the bar ,like 10 mins.
AAH MY GOD HELP ME PLEASE WITH THIS!
IM totally absolutely desperate !!!!
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So after few frakking days im back...
SUDDENDLY after 2 days of my last post it started working again like a charm. Downloaded most of the apps.
Then next day, it was gone again... Stopped working...
Also now its error 495 but after a very long time of rolling the bar ,like 10 mins.
AAH MY GOD HELP ME PLEASE WITH THIS!
IM totally absolutely desperate !!!!
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Hi, I had the same problem as you and I 'fixed' it by Stopping the 'Downloading' rolling bar and then resuming it. I found that fixes it
Let me know if this works :good:
I wanted to try it but there is no pause button though, look for yourself
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All right, there has to be a way to get this working since I had the same problem too
Try this :
Turn your phone off and on
Open Play Store and go into the screen where it says "X Updates available" and they are listed in rows
Click Update All and then the blue loading line starts to animate. Wait for a few seconds then click the X next to the first item that is downloading to stop it
Click Download/Resume again
It should start downloading.
The above steps worked for me, I got the S3 day before yesterday and I came across this problem for about 10 minutes 'til I did the steps above
Let me know how it goes :fingers-crossed:
I have an issue that I cannot pinpoint the cause of figure out a solution to. Maybe someone here can help.
My Sprint G3 is always crashing and rebooting the launcher (phone doesn't turn off, just closes evwrything). I'd be in the middle of any app and it will randomly close every single app. The running apps page always displays after every crash. It's as if too much ram is being used, but it will happen even after a fresh phone restart and launching something simple like WhatsApp.
My phone is rooted via the Stump one click method. I don't have any type of rooted mods enabled, only Adfree. I use Nova launcher (paid & updated).
Is there some sort of event viewer that will log the activity of the phone so I probably someone here can see what might be causing the phone to crash? I'm tempted to Unroot and restore back to stock... But if I can avoid that, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Syph said:
I have an issue that I cannot pinpoint the cause of figure out a solution to. Maybe someone here can help.
My Sprint G3 is always crashing and rebooting the launcher (phone doesn't turn off, just closes evwrything). I'd be in the middle of any app and it will randomly close every single app. The running apps page always displays after every crash. It's as if too much ram is being used, but it will happen even after a fresh phone restart and launching something simple like WhatsApp.
My phone is rooted via the Stump one click method. I don't have any type of rooted mods enabled, only Adfree. I use Nova launcher (paid & updated).
Is there some sort of event viewer that will log the activity of the phone so I probably someone here can see what might be causing the phone to crash? I'm tempted to Unroot and restore back to stock... But if I can avoid that, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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If you're running ART that could cause that. Go back to dalvik and see if that cures it.
engine95 said:
If you're running ART that could cause that. Go back to dalvik and see if that cures it.
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I believe I'm still on dalvik as I never changed that setting.
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I believe I'm still on dalvik as I never changed that setting.
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Maybe it's Adfree then. There's a special version that some people are using. It's in it forum somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
In the meantime, uninstall it and see if it goes away.
engine95 said:
Maybe it's Adfree then. There's a special version that some people are using. It's in it forum somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
In the meantime, uninstall it and see if it goes away.
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Thanks. I've reverted my adfree hosts file and uninstalled it. But I think the issue persists. If I try to use any app that clears cache, specifically Clean Master, when it's doing the scan of apps it'll crash midway through the scan. If I go to system settings > Apps & wait for all the downloaded apps to load the details, it'll crash there too.
This is the oddest thing.
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This visual may help. It's a video of me running Clean Master & seeing how it just crashes. I can replicate this issue every time like this, but the crashes are random when using other apps.
Link to video: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9-N9bB35E-QdnY3Zk1FaW9EMXM/edit?usp=docslist_api
Ok, so I began uninstalling some apps that I thought may have been the issue... Which they weren't as the crashing still continues. I decided to reboot under safe mode and the problem occurs there too.
I honestly cannot recall if this began before or after rooting with stump. I may have to Unroot & factory restore. =/
Syph said:
Ok, so I began uninstalling some apps that I thought may have been the issue... Which they weren't as the crashing still continues. I decided to reboot under safe mode and the problem occurs there too.
I honestly cannot recall if this began before or after rooting with stump. I may have to Unroot & factory restore. =/
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I'm at a loss... The 2 things I mentioned can be the culprits, but not for you I guess. Some other ideas?
Did you uninstall Stump after getting root?
Have you froze or uninstalled any system apps/ priv-apps?
It might even be Nova is having issues.
That's all I got.
engine95 said:
I'm at a loss... The 2 things I mentioned can be the culprits, but not for you I guess. Some other ideas?
Did you uninstall Stump after getting root?
Have you froze or uninstalled any system apps/ priv-apps?
It might even be Nova is having issues.
That's all I got.
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Thank you for your help. Nova was one of the apps I removed. I did remove the stump app after rooting & did not freeze/remove any system critical apps/files. I'm also at a loss.
I would try a restore to stock as the final option. If that doesn't fix it then I dunno man.
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haoleflip said:
I would try a restore to stock as the final option. If that doesn't fix it then I dunno man.
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I plan to do that this evening. Was hoping to not restore to stock... It'd always a pain setting up themes & apps again. Lol.
Syph said:
I plan to do that this evening. Was hoping to not restore to stock... It'd always a pain setting up themes & apps again. Lol.
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Pssh all of that stuff can wait and can be downloaded again. My main priority would be getting my phone working again lol
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haoleflip said:
Pssh all of that stuff can wait and can be downloaded again. My main priority would be getting my phone working again lol
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Tried to unroot but the phone doesn't move past the "Firmware Update. Do not unplug the phone..." screen after holding Volume Up & plugging into the computer. I installed the drivers before hand. But the "CDC Serial" doesn't update. I attempted to manually update the driver by browsing for the folder, but no go.
I may end up having to go to Sprint and exchange the phone for another one.
Syph said:
Tried to unroot but the phone doesn't move past the "Firmware Update. Do not unplug the phone..." screen after holding Volume Up & plugging into the computer. I installed the drivers before hand. But the "CDC Serial" doesn't update. I attempted to manually update the driver by browsing for the folder, but no go.
I may end up having to go to Sprint and exchange the phone for another one.
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any updates? did you ever fix the problem?
thanks!
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any updates? did you ever fix the problem?
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TL;DR version = Yes, I did fix it. Factory restore did the trick.
A few days after my last post the phone wasn't as bad as the video. It would still crash and reset but mainly after heavy app usage or when trying to clear app cache using any app like Clean Master.
Once my storage reached about 40% used and I couldn't clear the cache, I began to get constant Play Store error messages. No apps would update. I think it was error 483 or something close to hat number.
Since I couldn't flash back to stock because the drivers wouldn't install, I gave up and tried a factory reset. I nearly sh-t myself bc once I confirmed the restore, the phone didn't want to automatically reset per the instructions. I pressed the button multiple times and nothing. I pulled the battery and when I turned it back on, I got the initial screen with the "powered by android" and then black. It did not wanna do anything. Pulled battery again, same outcome. It left it for maybe 10min and still nothing.
I was ready to go back to sprint and see if I could exchange the phone. While researching the closest store, the phone beeped and the initial android setup screen appeared. This was about 25min of waiting on a black screen.
The phone is now back to working order and it's still rooted. There must have been a corrupt file that was erased/restored once the g3 decided to behave.
Syph said:
TL;DR version = Yes, I did fix it. Factory restore did the trick.
A few days after my last post the phone wasn't as bad as the video. It would still crash and reset but mainly after heavy app usage or when trying to clear app cache using any app like Clean Master.
Once my storage reached about 40% used and I couldn't clear the cache, I began to get constant Play Store error messages. No apps would update. I think it was error 483 or something close to hat number.
Since I couldn't flash back to stock because the drivers wouldn't install, I gave up and tried a factory reset. I nearly sh-t myself bc once I confirmed the restore, the phone didn't want to automatically reset per the instructions. I pressed the button multiple times and nothing. I pulled the battery and when I turned it back on, I got the initial screen with the "powered by android" and then black. It did not wanna do anything. Pulled battery again, same outcome. It left it for maybe 10min and still nothing.
I was ready to go back to sprint and see if I could exchange the phone. While researching the closest store, the phone beeped and the initial android setup screen appeared. This was about 25min of waiting on a black screen.
The phone is now back to working order and it's still rooted. There must have been a corrupt file that was erased/restored once the g3 decided to behave.
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Congrats!
My G3 is crashing in the similar manner as the video you uploaded.
Except that it only happens when I'm in office connected to office wifi with almost no cellular reception.
On top of that, as far as I could tell... only two apps are causing the launcher to crash... the game Clash of Clans and LINE.
Very very strange....