Am I going to eff up my phone guts? - HTC EVO 3D

Am I going to do anykind of damage to my shiny new friend by rooting, rerooting, going to permanent root, oc root over and over? I've rooted this poor bastard 10 times at least.
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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chefdave12118 said:
Am I going to do anykind of damage to my shiny new friend by rooting, rerooting, going to permanent root, oc root over and over? I've rooted this poor bastard 10 times at least.
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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Short answer: no. Long answer: No ****ing way.
Technical Answer: The root only modifies things on the eMMC which are only held temporarily. At most it will be held until reboot. So far as overclocking is concerned there is always a risk of damage, but, I've overclocked 2 phones, 1 nook colors and all of my friends phones...no damage. If you clock too high you'll probably just lock it up it or it will reboot...poof, everything gets reset because of the eMMC issue mentioned above....and you're good.

I like your long answer. I've rooted and overclocked my nook color (phiremod), my galaxy tab (spacemooses hc) and my evo 4g (cm7) but I only rooted them once.
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Perm root from some guy in NYC lol

theres a guy in NYC who says he can perm root the 3d.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/mob/2507015037.html
i think its BS but who knows lol
chef2 said:
theres a guy in NYC who says he can perm root the 3d.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/mob/2507015037.html
i think its BS but who knows lol
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Hahahahahaha. Sorry couldn't help it. If he could do it he would be on here bragging about how he done it first.
now the voices are in 3d
He may have rooted other devices but I don't believe he has full perm root yet for the evo 3d.
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chef2 said:
theres a guy in NYC who says he can perm root the 3d.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/mob/2507015037.html
i think its BS but who knows lol
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of course its bs!
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Actually I don't see where he states perm root any where. He may just be temp rooting devices
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He said if he can't do it, he'll let you know. Somebody call him, lol.
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Hmm, I never knew overclocking Saved battery life...
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xHausx said:
Hmm, I never knew overclocking Saved battery life...
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+1 and what's this superuser permissions? It let's you install any software apparently. That means I could install windows 7 ultimate and Sony Vegas right?
Lulz
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haha the guy said it was perm root but didnt know if it was s-off lol....id take it to him and see if it was legit but hes a few thousand miles away lol
I think we all need to call him and make fake appointments haha
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im a hr from ny. but im already temp perma rooted.lol
lol dont waste your time hehe. I called and he said he can do it. perm root but its $35 for temp root and 65 for perm root ... the old bait and switch...
Rip off!
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xHausx said:
Hmm, I never knew overclocking Saved battery life...
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Quick, someone let HTC know that this random Guy who has been rooting phones for 3 whole years has found the mysterious secrets to better battery life!
Their Masters degree holding researchers and developers will be surprised at that one. :eyeroll:
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xHausx said:
Hmm, I never knew overclocking Saved battery life...
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It seems counter-intuitive, but, I swear that my E4G got better battery life when overclocked. Sure, it wasn't on the performance governer to do that...but I've beared it out many times.
Race to wait man...the sooner a CPU is finished with something the sooner it can get to idle.
edit: the more I think about it I think it's only fair to admit that I only compared stock kernel to havs/UV kernels when oc'd....
Yes the faster it gets to idle... but theres also diminishing returns. The faster you push the processor the more energy it needs to reach that speed.
(Not saying your wrong, never really tried it)
How about undervolting while overclocking?
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Yes the faster it gets to idle... but theres also diminishing returns. The faster you push the processor the more energy it needs to reach that speed.
(Not saying your wrong, never really tried it)
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1136-1152mHz was perfect....but if I tried 1190 it would drain far faster than usual. most of it burnt up as heat, I felt it. But 1136-1152 was perfect. I tried underclocking for battery gains...it still ran perfectly usable as low as 528 or 548 or whatever it was....but I never got the kind of gains I thought I would, in fact, I never noticed considerable gains in battery life, even that low for a while....
As we all know for some peculiar reason not all smartphones are the same, even of the same make model batch, etc etc etc....so YMMV, a lot, but, OC'd to 1152 running CM7, smart ass governor, (HAV/uv kernel) (with the screen-on lowest freq being whatever was the first above 245...345?) I got far better battery life than stock...once again, not fair compared to mere stock, but, even underclocked I didn't see noticeable returns....

[Q] I have a situation

My Amaze 4g is rooted and rom'd etc.
A couple days ago the screen died. Like, it did something kinda of weird (flashed some grayish type colors) and then turned off. The phone still works etc but the screen is dead.
So, I can get a replacement phone but it is rooted and sending it back is too risky.
Is there anyway that I can restore my phone without having to see the screen?
Or, has anyone heard of this happening etc?
Thanks
You'll have to boot into fastboot and relock the bootloader. It might be a bit difficult to do so without actually being able to see what the screen should be showing, but overall it's a two step process: relock bootloader, load and flash stock RUU
So can you walk me through it? Lol, since I can't see the screen? Like, can you just direct me on what buttons to push.
do you have it insured? Maybe you might lose it tonight?
What i suggest is watch a youtube video on how to relock it and hwo to flash stock RUU adn get the timing.
andy55 said:
do you have it insured? Maybe you might lose it tonight?
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Lol, it is actually my girls and they have already sent her a replacement. I just don't wanna send the broken screen one back yet (for obvious reasons)
Ohleo said:
Lol, it is actually my girls and they have already sent her a replacement. I just don't wanna send the broken screen one back yet (for obvious reasons)
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You might as well just send it back because even if u figure out a way to relock it, it will say "relocked" therefore either way they will kno u unlocked it. But that shouldnt matter because the screen going dead is most likely a hardware issue which if it is it should still be covered by the warranty whether u unlocked it or not
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I thought that unlocked it voided the warranty all together
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Ohleo said:
I thought that unlocked it voided the warranty all together
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Nope... Only software issues
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Ohleo said:
I thought that unlocked it voided the warranty all together
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No it only says it "may" void ur warranty.. so as long as the problem wasnt caused by you changing the software, like flashing roms and soforth, then they should still honor the warranty. And to me it sounds like a hardware issue so u should be fine.
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OK cool. Because I searched everything and I did not ever find anything connecting screen crashes to roms
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Ya man u should be fine. Good luck
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Thanks
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I think you should at least try and flash it to stock if not to just erase any personal info. Good luck
Yeah I am gonna still try. Just gotta getting the timing and button pushing down haha
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Are you sure it's not just the backlight that's out? If it is, you can just grab a really bright flashlight and shine it at an angle, and you might, possibly, be able to see your screen. It will be faint but it might be enough to help you relock it.
Just crack the screen, tmo will charge you 50 bucks extra if the screen is cracked. At least this is what they told me when I had to get a replacement for my wife's phone.
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Hmmm I will try the flashlight trick
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I know quite a few people who returned their phone back to tmobile and were fine and they had the same type of issue you had.
Shouldn't be a problem.
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my cousin returned his Amaze 4G to a Wind MObile with Bulletproof 2.5.0 *he fked up his charging port* and they replaced the amaze with unlocked bootloader and runnign custom FW

Bootloader unlock :(

We apologize for the issues you have experienced with the bootloader unlock for your HTC Evo 3D. HTC is aware that some individuals have been having difficulty with the unlock process and is current investigating the issue. At this time, we do not have an estimated time for a resolution.
lol, did UNKOWNFORCE piss them off?
Definately not using their "resolution" lol
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why do we care? Who would ever use HtcDev AGAIN.....
I just want to flash Roms freely as I did on my EVO. This crap sucks..I don't understand why they had to screw with it..so now its a 12 step process to root..
They are trying to make it so that it cannot be downrev'd.
Is this the file that needs changed? Add a zero on the first and ones on the last two?
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edufur said:
They are trying to make it so that it cannot be downrev'd.
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The reason they made things like that to root was to keep the folks who don't know enough about it from doing it... They get tired of warranty claims when someone bricks a phone because the user had no idea what they are doing.. Same goes for people who overclock and push it too high and burn the cpu up...
Too keep things like that from happening.
reaper24 said:
They get tired of warranty claims when someone bricks a phone because the user had no idea what they are doing.. Same goes for people who overclock and push it too high and burn the cpu up...
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That seems like a whole lot of hassle just to prevent a small fraction of it's user base from fully utilizing their phones.
I'm confident that we only take up a small portions of claims in their warranty department. Maybe they should put more effort into making a phone that keeps up with the competition and lasts.
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That seems like a whole lot of hassle just to prevent a small fraction of it's user base from fully utilizing their phones.
I'm confident that we only take up a small portions of claims in their warranty department. Maybe they should put more effort into making a phone that keeps up with the competition and lasts.
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Then a better idiot will come along and eff' it all up...
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I am tired of all this 1.5 ****. I hate the htcdev tool.
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It's pretty simple to do.
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z50king said:
I am tired of all this 1.5 ****. I hate the htcdev tool.
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Why don't you downgrade to hboot 1.4
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xavier86 said:
Then a better idiot will come along and eff' it all up...
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Lol So true.
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It's pretty simple to do.
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That it is
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sprkat85 said:
Why don't you downgrade to hboot 1.4
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Because I still have my original shipped hboot 1.4. I am tired of all the drama 1.5 is causing. Now that we have a downgrade for ourselves I want htc to offer 1.4 to us
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z50king said:
Because I still have my original shipped hboot 1.4. I am tired of all the drama 1.5 is causing. Now that we have a downgrade for ourselves I want htc to offer 1.4 to us
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That's like saying because we have a method for root you want HTC and others to offer that too....? Same for when we originally had SOFF too...
Just makes little sense to expect or ask that right now...
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Hot random reboots after rooting?

Anyone know what causes this any way to fix it for good
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Hey... Me too!
+1
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jmtz345 said:
Anyone know what causes this any way to fix it for good
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I thought it was related to root but I've had these hot reboots even before rooting so it's not just root. Most likely an app.
Same problem here
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dimaf999 said:
Same problem here
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Will take a while to hunt down the app but anybody else have 'LinkedIn' app installed? It just hot rebooted while launching that app from a fresh restart - quickest hot reboot I've ever seen.
It might not be that app but then I went to the Play Store page and there are tons of 1 star reviews because the last update failed on people's phones - more interestingly the most recent comment is from a GS2 user who says latest update reboots his phone.
I've uninstalled it and I doubt I can be that lucky that it's that app and I find it so quickly but crossing my fingers.
Mine rebooted after I opened the Navigation app.
Mine is random, many different apps
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dimaf999 said:
Mine is random, many different apps
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Mine happened again. I've now uninstalled BetterBatteryStats. I'm going to start uninstalling stuff that uses root to roll that out. I've had these issues on stock but it happened rarely, lately it's been happening very frequently so something is going on.
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Anyone? Developers? Any input?
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Bump this thread!
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I've had the same on mine. I rooted mine day 1, so no idea if it would have done it without root. I've defrosted everything in TB and still no luck.
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Well I'm tired of the random hot reboots! Some people say it happened to them before rooting, but I don't believe it happened to me until I rooted and installed CWM touch......so I'm going back to stock to start all over again so I can try to narrow down the issue. I'll report back on my progress as it becomes available.
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hanfordrob said:
Well I'm tired of the random hot reboots! Some people say it happened to them before rooting, but I don't believe it happened to me until I rooted and installed CWM touch......so I'm going back to stock to start all over again so I can try to narrow down the issue. I'll report back on my progress as it becomes available.
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Happening often to me. The search continues. I've now uninstalled adfree. I'm positive this is an app since I had it occur on stock after two weeks of using the phone and installing crap.
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I had the same problem on my previous Captivate and am having it now on the GS III; no rhyme or reason to the reboots that I can see.
I still have heat problem but I played w/ different settings to see what it is.... I had att s3 which got really really hot... So returned it for Verizon s3. Verizon is better but learned that the data (lte/s3) makes it really hot and battery drain. Also the screen, of course.
If you're rooted then go get Phone info and disable lte. I tried CDMA auto for Verizon and it got much better... But at lowered download speed. I change it when I speed the speed... Doesn't require reboot so it's easy to change.
U can also under clock using setCPU.
I don't need it to be fast normally except when playing games... So just have it at 384min and 1024max... I find this helps allot w/ heat as well... U can try and find your setting that's acceptable speed and heat.
Just sharing my experience here.... So good luck.
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Happens here too with the T-Mobile GS3. I think they rushed their fabrication process to deliver a high volume and fubared a few hardwarewise. I've even had it lockup/freeze once when not even in the OS but just in the recovery menu's. But yeah, the usual is a totally random unpredictable hot reboot throwing out my resident programs, homescreen, ect. Starts with the screen being frozen and not accepting input, then a short vibration, then back to homescreen reloading and all regular apps and widges that are supposed to run at boot load again. It's as if there's a micro static short or something. Anyway, I'm sick of problem solving and looking through logcats. Going back in for warranty. This is a dream phone except for this ultra annoying bug that it seems not many people have.
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Happens here too with the T-Mobile GS3. I think they rushed their fabrication process to deliver a high volume and fubared a few hardwarewise. I've even had it lockup/freeze once when not even in the OS but just in the recovery menu's. But yeah, the usual is a totally random unpredictable hot reboot throwing out my resident programs, homescreen, ect. Starts with the screen being frozen and not accepting input, then a short vibration, then back to homescreen reloading and all regular apps and widges that are supposed to run at boot load again. It's as if there's a micro static short or something. Anyway, I'm sick of problem solving and looking through logcats. Going back in for warranty. This is a dream phone except for this ultra annoying bug that it seems not many people have.
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Are any of you have this happen purely on stock without rooting or anything else ?
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mobilehavoc said:
Are any of you have this happen purely on stock without rooting or anything else ?
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Happened to me once or twice (that I noticed) in the two weeks before I rooted (stock UCALEM), and a few more times after. It's just TouchPiz being pizzy. Maybe someone can catch the logcat, but there's nothing we can do about it (except install a better ROM )
How would anyone be able to diagnose this BS
"OK. My phone is hot. And it randomly reboots".
"Crap - u r out of luck buddy. Go change ur damn phone".
Provide ur phone model, ROM version, apps installed. Check ur battery stats.
As a solution - flash any custom ROM which removes bloatware.

Stock vs Rooted

Now I'm not your average user. I've only owned two android phones: the LG esteem and now the DNA. The Esteem was really a solid phone and the development team really allowed the phone to go above and beyond its limits. Though I loved my Esteem the DNA just blows it out the water in all aspects. I rooted my Esteem because it wasn't as good stock. A phone like this makes me wonder is it even necessary to root because it's already so fast and so smooth.
And that's pretty much my question. As I hold my DNA in my hand I'm wondering if I should go ahead and root or just keep it as stock. What do you guys think?
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I've been stuck on stock because I took the ota. But the stock Rom for me has been amazing I'm patiently waiting for the unlock. But it's great maybe one of the first phones I'm really content on stock. I've been keeping up with custom roms and some really still seem to have some issues and quirks like wireless charging issues and Bluetooth not working. Phones not going into deep sleep I don't have any of those issues.
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Rooting the dna isn't really about getting a performance boost as it is about getting extra customization.
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Bigandrewgold said:
Rooting the dna isn't really about getting a performance boost as it is about getting extra customization.
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And getting more out of the battery
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Rooting the dna isn't really about getting a performance boost as it is about getting extra customization.
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And because we should have root.
We should have root by default, the fact we have "hack" the software to get what should be allowed by default is bs
Rage against the machine!!
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True enough. I actually had decided to just go ahead and root but I noticed it said if you downloaded the ota then you couldn't root. Well I downloaded it so is there no way to?
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deathrow1992 said:
True enough. I actually had decided to just go ahead and root but I noticed it said if you downloaded the ota then you couldn't root. Well I downloaded it so is there no way to?
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Currently there is no way to root your phone if you have the ota
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I tend to agree, I had bad luck with past Androids, having to root, etc, just to get a good experience. But man, this phone is awesome as is. I may never root it. But I like knowing its an option lol
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Serinety said:
And because we should have root.
We should have root by default, the fact we have "hack" the software to get what should be allowed by default is bs
Rage against the machine!!
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Giving root to everyone might not be optimal for average users that aren't tech savvy... however it really shouldn't be difficult to get root access...once a device is bought, the users should have the right to do what they want with it. Think about buying a laptop and not being able to put an OS you want on it...could we have a petition to force companies to let the device really be owned by the user after its been payed for?
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I've been stuck on stock because I took the ota. But the stock Rom for me has been amazing I'm patiently waiting for the unlock. But it's great maybe one of the first phones I'm really content on stock. I've been keeping up with custom roms and some really still seem to have some issues and quirks like wireless charging issues and Bluetooth not working. Phones not going into deep sleep I don't have any of those issues.
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True enough. I actually had decided to just go ahead and root but I noticed it said if you downloaded the ota then you couldn't root. Well I downloaded it so is there no way to?
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Currently there is no way to root your phone if you have the ota
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Have you guys tried flashing this to remove OTA and continue on
Coming from a galaxy nexus I had to root so I could theme as much back to AOSP as possible...
I definitely didn't do it for performance reasons and I'm very happy I rooted.
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Have you guys tried flashing this to remove OTA and continue on
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That doesn't remove the ota, it removes the files on your phone that control the ota.
If you are not rooted and on the ota there is no way to root(for now) and no way to revert back to the older software version, period.
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That doesn't remove the ota, it removes the files on your phone that control the ota.
If you are not rooted and on the ota there is no way to root(for now) and no way to revert back to the older software version, period.
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Ah I see, yeah I wasn't sure. Never took the OTA because it won't do it out of the states... or at least wouldn't on my phone. In that case, hope they brew something up for you guys soon
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That doesn't remove the ota, it removes the files on your phone that control the ota.
If you are not rooted and on the ota there is no way to root(for now) and no way to revert back to the older software version, period.
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Don't think it would matter anyway since you can't flash without being rooted. Oh well, guess I'll just wait till there is a root for the new update. Hopefully some of these ROMs get ported over as well
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