Hello all!
My Brother is over right now and he is an owner of the HTC Thunderbolt.
He just got the newest OTA update on his phone a few mins ago.
He was telling me his battery life n' such was very horrible.
I was telling him how my HTC Evo 4G was the same way when I first got it. I was telling him how I rooted the phone and installed a ROM that gave me better performance and battery life.
So I talked him in to rooting his Thunderbolt. Now I am trying to figure out What ROM or Kernel would be best to flash on his phone for better Battery Life.
Also before I rooted his phone I wanted to ask to make sure I would not run in to any issues since his phone just received an OTA Update.
I know with ROM's it is usually best to test them all and go with the one you feel is best. I was hoping someone could give me some insite though on to which ROM would improve battery life the most.
He wants to stick with Sense. Don't care if it's Froyo or GB.
Thanks for the advise/help!
You can look into damf, synergy, and gingeritis all great Roms. But in my opinion gingeritis give me the best battery for my TBOLT and performance I give it synergy I'm using that now and its my fav out of all of them. But they are all great roms devs did good jobs.
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He should see how battery life does for a week or so because of the new update. Then decide if he wants to root.
doodlebro said:
He should see how battery life does for a week or so because of the new update. Then decide if he wants to root.
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I agree with this. But if he wants to root now tell him to try out bamf 1.8.6. Its really stable and it is much much better on the battery.
I've been running synergy and now liquids new gb rom and both have had great battery life..especially compared to when I first got the phone.
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Does he live in an area with LTE? If not, disabling the LTE radio would help battery life. To do this, open the dialer, any type *#*#4636#*#*
This will bring up a menu. Choose phone information, then scroll down and under "set preceded network type" choose cdma auto prl. This will disable the LTE radio, which causes battery drain in a none LTE area because it is constantly searching for an LTE signal.
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Can the new OTA be rooted? I just got the T-bolt and my GF accidentally accepted the update when she was playing with my phone and now I'm stuck with it
B.klewis said:
Can the new OTA be rooted? I just got the T-bolt and my GF accidentally accepted the update when she was playing with my phone and now I'm stuck with it
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yes it can
I'm also on synergy and love it and getting great battery life (easily 12 hours on 4g) make sure he also downloads setcpu and sets it to scale down cpu when the screen is off that saves a ton of battery.
try inj3ctth3ory rom the battery life is good so far
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Does he live in an area with LTE? If not, disabling the LTE radio would help battery life. To do this, open the dialer, any type *#*#4636#*#*
This will bring up a menu. Choose phone information, then scroll down and under "set preceded network type" choose cdma auto prl. This will disable the LTE radio, which causes battery drain in a none LTE area because it is constantly searching for an LTE signal.
Sent from my rooted stock OTA MR2 Thunderbolt
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Thanks for that. I had him set that on his phone.
The new update did not help with the battery as you all know by now lol.
I will probably make him install ROM Manager so he can switch between ROM's to choose one he likes.
I will also have him grab SetCPU.
Thanks for the tip's / advice!
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Hello XDA.
I'm considering to flash a custom rom on my htc hero. I'm wondering which custom rom does have the best battery life, which would you recommend?
I would like a rom that can last a day, so that i only have to charge over night?
By the way, how do i find out if i have the gsm or cdma edition?
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Hello XDA.
I'm considering to flash a custom rom on my htc hero. I'm wondering which custom rom does have the best battery life, which would you recommend?
I would like a rom that can last a day, so that i only have to charge over night?
By the way, how do i find out if i have the gsm or cdma edition?
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If you live in the us you have the cdma. Every other place in the world use gsm.
ChosSimbaOne said:
Hello XDA.
I'm considering to flash a custom rom on my htc hero. I'm wondering which custom rom does have the best battery life, which would you recommend?
I would like a rom that can last a day, so that i only have to charge over night?
By the way, how do i find out if i have the gsm or cdma edition?
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Battery life has more to do with how you use the phone rather than the rom, most are similarly optimised now.
It nice to hear. How much battery time do you get?
Which ROM would you recommend? Been Thinking of installing beHero.
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It nice to hear. How much battery time do you get?
Which ROM would you recommend? Been Thinking of installing beHero.
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Personally i get between 1-4 days on a standard battery depending on how I use the phone, and I get between 4-10 days on my extra life battery (3000 mah).
I use VillainROM and am currently on 5.2, but 5.3 is out in about 30 mins or so. I have heard good things about many of the roms, check out their features and see which you prefer.
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If you live in the us you have the cdma. Every other place in the world use gsm.
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Not necessarily! The US does use GSM as well as CDMA - it just uses a different set of frequencies. A Telus Hero is a GSM Hero and will work on AT&T in the US.
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Now i've rooted my HTC Hero. And i've come to the point where i should update my radio. Is this nessescary, can in ruin my phone and what excatly does it do?
ChosSimbaOne said:
Now i've rooted my HTC Hero. And i've come to the point where i should update my radio. Is this nessescary, can in ruin my phone and what excatly does it do?
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It can brick your phone, however as long as you don't flash a GSM radio on a CDMA hero or visa versa (assuming they have cdma radios?) you are fairly safe. Also don't pull the battery out whilst its happening. Just be patient, it can take a while for some people apparently (10 mins or more), though it takes about a minute on mine.
All the radio does it let your phone know where signal towers are, from what I gather. Though people often talk about some radio's working better with certain rom's and they apparently affect battery life - i'm not entirely convinced.
Okay. Could it have any effect on my signal strengh? Are you using the laste radio rom?
Thanks for the help and guides. Now i've got it all up and running Has been a greate help, and i'm really looking forward to use android 2.1 Will see if i change back to HTC when they can get their act together and release the 2.1 update for android
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Okay. Could it have any effect on my signal strengh? Are you using the laste radio rom?
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ChosSimbaOne said:
Thanks for the help and guides. Now i've got it all up and running Has been a greate help, and i'm really looking forward to use android 2.1 Will see if i change back to HTC when they can get their act together and release the 2.1 update for android
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Yes I'm on the latest radio. I noticed a difference, before i only ever got 2 bars of signal max, now it ranges from 0 to full.
If you continue with the 2.1 custom roms when the devs get the new kernal i'm sure there will be some nice features.
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Personally i get between 1-4 days on a standard battery depending on how I use the phone, and I get between 4-10 days on my extra life battery (3000 mah).
I use VillainROM and am currently on 5.2, but 5.3 is out in about 30 mins or so. I have heard good things about many of the roms, check out their features and see which you prefer.
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just a last question. When you get 1-4 days on the standard battery, do you turn it off at night? And how much do you use it during the day, for texting, calling, internet and so on?
ChosSimbaOne said:
just a last question. When you get 1-4 days on the standard battery, do you turn it off at night? And how much do you use it during the day, for texting, calling, internet and so on?
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Stays on at night, for my alarm in the morning. I use it for calls for approximately 30-60 minutes every couple of days. Send about 10-20 texts a day. Usually check for updates to apps on a daily basis, as well as twitter updates and some browsing of the net when i'm away from computer. Not heavy use really.
Just make sure you turn stuff off when you're not using it - i.e. wifi, 3g, bluetooth, sync, backlight, etc (there is a power control widget for most of these, and a 3g widget separate)
Mine might get 3 days with moderate-low usage.I have Villain Rom 5.3 and of course i keep closed bluetooth,wifi,gps,3g when i don't use them.Also i have Advanced Task Manager to kill all apps that might run on the background when i don't need them.
Hey just came from an EVO to THUNDERBOLT was wondering after i root will i be able to enable and disable the 4G LTE on my ThUNDERBOLT or if this another way to do it ?
You can do it before or after root.
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The TeamAndIRC 4G LTE Settings app (free in the market) will allow you full control. The latest update makes it even easier...
does turning off 4G really save that much battery. The first day using my ThunderBolt I thought the battery drained pretty fast. Came home after 8 hours, minimal use at work, talked a bit and battery got down to 25%. I did a factory reset (my reasons) and removed Advanced Task Killer and today my battery was 50% after work (talked for a hour) and minimal use at work (no games, no internet). Honestly I thought it actually behaved like my Evo (rooted). Will most likely get the extended battery still, but really didnt notice the battery issues today.
Hopefully will root soon. Remove the bloatware.
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Set preferred network type
EvDo (3G) or CDMA (1X)
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You can do it before or after root.
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yeah im gonna root it anyway just didnt know if i had to be rooted to do it or not so thank you sir
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The TeamAndIRC 4G LTE Settings app (free in the market) will allow you full control. The latest update makes it even easier...
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thanks i will give this app a try
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does turning off 4G really save that much battery. The first day using my ThunderBolt I thought the battery drained pretty fast. Came home after 8 hours, minimal use at work, talked a bit and battery got down to 25%. I did a factory reset (my reasons) and removed Advanced Task Killer and today my battery was 50% after work (talked for a hour) and minimal use at work (no games, no internet). Honestly I thought it actually behaved like my Evo (rooted). Will most likely get the extended battery still, but really didnt notice the battery issues today.
Hopefully will root soon. Remove the bloatware.
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and yes it does save alot of battery 4g kills the battery life on this phone same as it did on the evo then again i didnt use 4g that much to begin with so it never really effected me but not being able to turn it off out of the box was just stupid on verizons part along with the retarded about of bloatware it came with and i will also be rooted soon
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and yes it does save alot of battery 4g kills the battery life on this phone same as it did on the evo then again i didnt use 4g that much to begin with so it never really effected me but not being able to turn it off out of the box was just stupid on verizons part along with the retarded about of bloatware it came with and i will also be rooted soon
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I agree but they might of wanted to stay away from the 4g switch temporarily because of all the trouble the EVO had in the beginning from the switch draining the battery, just a theory I believe.
running liquid aosp+ kangbang. overclocked to 1228/245 ondemand. off the charger at 9am im now down to 75% with virtually no usage. is this bad for 4g being on?
looking at battery usage is says cellular radio is taking up everything. im on the latest leaked radio too. i wonder if i should go back the the last official ota radio.
fixxxer2008 said:
running liquid aosp+ kangbang. overclocked to 1228/245 ondemand. off the charger at 9am im now down to 75% with virtually no usage. is this bad for 4g being on?
looking at battery usage is says cellular radio is taking up everything. im on the latest leaked radio too. i wonder if i should go back the the last official ota radio.
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That's about double what mine is using on standby with no use. I'm looking at about 1.6% per hour standby. I'm on the RUU 2.11 radio too. I've got my sync schedule set up to fairly conservatively, and made sure it doesn't update whether whenever the widget is viewed.
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That's about double what mine is using on standby with no use. I'm looking at about 1.6% per hour standby. I'm on the RUU 2.11 radio too. I've got my sync schedule set up to fairly conservatively, and made sure it doesn't update whether whenever the widget is viewed.
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well it must be the new radio then.
fixxxer2008 said:
well it must be the new radio then.
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I'd point the finger at the ROM. I'm using the same radio and getting much better results than you're showing, and I'm using a Sense ROM. Your's should be equal or better than that. Even under moderately heavy use I can eek out 10 to 12 hours on a charge. You should definitely be doing better than that on an AOSP ROM, I would think.
I would stay off LTE unless you're actually using it. It's just a waste if your phone is just idling.
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I'd point the finger at the ROM. I'm using the same radio and getting much better results than you're showing, and I'm using a Sense ROM. Your's should be equal or better than that. Even under moderately heavy use I can eek out 10 to 12 hours on a charge. You should definitely be doing better than that on an AOSP ROM, I would think.
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i doubt its the rom as i never had this until i used the leaked radio. id use a sense rom but the volume is too low for me. the aosp kernels have the audio tweaks.
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I would stay off LTE unless you're actually using it. It's just a waste if your phone is just idling.
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well then there would be no point in having a 4g phone.
i loaded up the latest official ota radio and will test tonight. worse comes to worse ill have to look for a different rom.
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well then there would be no point in having a 4g phone.
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i said turn it off when not in use, not when you are letting your phone sleep. back in the day when 3g came out, it was a battery drainer too.
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i said turn it off when not in use, not when you are letting your phone sleep. back in the day when 3g came out, it was a battery drainer too.
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CDMA is STILL a battery killer. It can kill a battery FAR, FAR faster than LTE ever could. I'm inclined to agree with Fixxxer2008; what's the point in having LTE if you can't just use it? And at 1.4 percent per hour idling, I'm not sure that qualifies as a grotesque overuse of power. I think that's conservative by ANY measure.
Buy the extended battery.
I refuse to neuter my phone.
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If the OP wants to take the time to deal with it, I would wipe /system, /cache, dalvik cache and /data and redo their rom over again with only restoring user data at the most. Perhaps something just coincidentally went out of wack with the latest update you did for the ROM. I doubt it's the radio doing it, but it would take more time/effort to know like reading through the logcat to see if there's anything weird going on and such.
i was gettibg pretty decent battery with CM7 + DreamKernal + MR 3.5 radio
i could watch a whole movie and it would use abour 10% battery
that and when i'd go to sleep(normally 5 - 6 hours), when i woke up it lost about 7 - 8% battery.
i switched to the latest Synergy + DreamKernal + MR 3.5 radio
only did so because of issues with Skype
now it consumes 13 - 15% battery watching a movie, and wheb i wake up it's used more then 20% battery.
i have the 2750 extended battery
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If the OP wants to take the time to deal with it, I would wipe /system, /cache, dalvik cache and /data and redo their rom over again with only restoring user data at the most. Perhaps something just coincidentally went out of wack with the latest update you did for the ROM. I doubt it's the radio doing it, but it would take more time/effort to know like reading through the logcat to see if there's anything weird going on and such.
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Im testing a new kernel. I already wiped cache and dalvik.
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well then there would be no point in having a 4g phone.
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Use a ROM that allows you to toggle between 3 and 4g. That way you can switch to 4g when you'really in data-heavy mode and idle in 3g.
I believe at least a Chingy related ROM has such a toggle.
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Use a ROM that allows you to toggle between 3 and 4g. That way you can switch to 4g when you'really in data-heavy mode and idle in 3g.
I believe at least a Chingy related ROM has such a toggle.
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Go back and read the thread. I'm using about 1.3 percent an hour at idle. I'm running a Chingy ROM. I don't toggle LTE. Cutting the balls off your device isn't much of an answer. That's like cutting your arm off to cure an infection. That answer ain't good enough for me, and I'm feeling its not good enough for him.
im testing the 3.5.8 lean kernel today. if it doesn't get any better ill be moving back to a sense rom. aosp is giving me alot of headaches.
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Buy the extended battery.
I refuse to neuter my phone.
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nah...i don't want my phone to look like a brick. i may get an extended slimline one though.
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im testing the 3.5.8 lean kernel today. if it doesn't get any better ill be moving back to a sense rom. aosp is giving me alot of headaches.
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I have been using the same kernel and I get awesome numbers?
Remember to use the settings in terminal it recommends so you can choose how much it will undervolt and which governor it will use.
And exit the menu using 14 otherwise what you choose will not be saved.
Bryan
fixxxer2008 said:
im testing the 3.5.8 lean kernel today. if it doesn't get any better ill be moving back to a sense rom. aosp is giving me alot of headaches.
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my friend was having drain issues with some of imo's latest aosp kernels on cm7 so they ended up going back to the default kernel for cm7 and that cleared it up
I just switched to verizon and new to this phone. I wanted to see what people thought were the most stable roms with improved battery, etc.... Thinking about flashing something. Tired of this buddy GB release
With really heavy use. using wireless tether, streaming pandora, checking facebook, email, news etc and extended battery, and 4G on all day. I get really good battery life
Im running BAMF Forever 1.0.6
imoseyon 3.8.0
under speedtweak.sh batterysaver 245/1024 Smartassv2
726 CDMA/802 LTE Radios
extended battery
Also followed the guide for better battery life and generating a good battstats.bin from the BAMF Forums
Any of the aosp roms are usually a good bet but I'd go with cm7 omfgb or...
Liquid Gingerbread 3.0!?
Running BAMF Forever 1.0.6 with the 726 CDMA/802 LTE Radios
I also have an extended battery.
Savage makes a good point with knowing the tips/tricks to conserve uneccessary battery drain. I have read a TON of these forums, but really didn't start posting until today. WELCOME to the Thunderbolt, though!
Using the BAMF Forever ROM with stock batter and new radios. Battery is the best of any ROM I tried.
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Using the BAMF Forever ROM with stock batter and new radios. Battery is the best of any ROM I tried.
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Gets even better using set CPU even on their baked in stock kernel just set up some profiles for screen off and such
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If you are looking for a Sense based ROM I've been enjoying Synergy. Flashed the new radio, live in 4G and get through a full work day with no worries about the battery.
Since 4G On The 3D Runs On WiMAX Which Is Wifi, Would It Be Better For Battery Life Than 3G? I Ask This Becouse Wifi Gets Better Battery Life Than 3G And Whenever I'm On 4G It Doesn't Seem To Kill My Phone.
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Since 4G On The 3D Runs On WiMAX Which Is Wifi, Would It Be Better For Battery Life Than 3G? I Ask This Becouse Wifi Gets Better Battery Life Than 3G And Whenever I'm On 4G It Doesn't Seem To Kill My Phone.
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I've noticed with ICS that if I accidentally leave my 4g on, it does not kill my battery like it did using GB. For battery life, it has traditionally been Wifi is best, 3g is second, and 4g is a battery killer, but now I am not so sure. I am not around 4g enough to test it, but if you are, that would be a great experiment. If you do it, please report back as inquiring minds want to know.
coal686 said:
I've noticed with ICS that if I accidentally leave my 4g on, it does not kill my battery like it did using GB. For battery life, it has traditionally been Wifi is best, 3g is second, and 4g is a battery killer, but now I am not so sure. I am not around 4g enough to test it, but if you are, that would be a great experiment. If you do it, please report back as inquiring minds want to know.
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I just switched to MeanROM ICS myself and have noticed the battery drains faster than it ever had on GB or the stock Sprint ROM. With or without 4G on. Are you getting the same battery performance on ICS that you were on GB?
TheDaltanian said:
I just switched to MeanROM ICS myself and have noticed the battery drains faster than it ever had on GB or the stock Sprint ROM. With or without 4G on. Are you getting the same battery performance on ICS that you were on GB?
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I've seen a couple posts saying Meanrom ics is killing battery pretty quickly. It may, I haven't updated the past 2 versions... But in one of the latest versions, he's did post less emphasis on battery savings and more on power. I'm on an earlier version and get great battery life.
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TheDaltanian said:
I just switched to MeanROM ICS myself and have noticed the battery drains faster than it ever had on GB or the stock Sprint ROM. With or without 4G on. Are you getting the same battery performance on ICS that you were on GB?
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Screen off time on ICS is substantially better than screen off time on GB (like 1% drain every 3 hours). Screen on time seems to be worse. In the end, I get through the entire day using MeanROM ICS with about 50% battery left (today: 13.5 hours off charger with 1.5 hours screen on time). So, it is not quite as good as GB, but since I recharge every night anyway and I love ICS's interface and features, I stick with it. I am going to flash ZR3dX tonight to see what the new version is about though.
coal686 said:
I've noticed with ICS that if I accidentally leave my 4g on, it does not kill my battery like it did using GB. For battery life, it has traditionally been Wifi is best, 3g is second, and 4g is a battery killer, but now I am not so sure. I am not around 4g enough to test it, but if you are, that would be a great experiment. If you do it, please report back as inquiring minds want to know.
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